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Charli DW
11-15-2014, 12:26 AM
wtf GREE .?? Is like you've done a total reset of game.. We've spent endless amounts of cash building our profiles for you to instantly make them worthless.. Well let's see how catering for free players works out for you.. I'm done.. As a lot of top 10 players are .. Bye KA

the_bob
11-15-2014, 12:39 AM
Cry more.

Also, explain how any of this is in favor of free players?

Charli DW
11-15-2014, 12:57 AM
The fact you minions can attack/ raid us and win.!!! Regardless of the fact we are 1 billion higher in stats **** wod

Charli DW
11-15-2014, 12:58 AM
Evidently your a free player.. Enjoy your victory.. It's not earnt.. JS

the_bob
11-15-2014, 01:49 AM
Evidently your a free player.. Enjoy your victory.. It's not earnt.. JS

Believe what you want. I haven't paid Gree a cent in a year out of protest, but I put quite a lot in before that. I still have a larger army than 99% of the people my level.

But I can't blame you. I told you to cry more and you did. I only have myself to blame for that.

Saint-BEL
11-15-2014, 02:13 AM
Well bob it still is a fact certain players are completely fcked with new update and it doesn't have much to do with gem or normal players.

Players who are playing for less then a year but have worked actively to get some decent stats are now screwed by the fact they never got same chances of getting good gear.
So basicly I now lose all fight against players with 100mil stats less cause they have better gear. And with some crap crafting weapons won't change much.

What is the point in getting stats when you are so far behind in gear it makes no point to even try catch up?

The attack system is completely inbalanced and out of proportion atm.

the_bob
11-15-2014, 03:24 AM
Yes, saint. I know this. I'm one of the ones screwed because since weapons and armor have always been totally useless (at least for the last 2 or so years, anyway), I have never stocked up on them. I can't win any fights because of it, so I know all about getting screwed.

The way hero equipment has always been, most people my level or higher have at least twice the defense as anybody has attack, so you almost always lose the hero equipment roll. That's 1. I have a crappy army attack equip number so I also almost always lose that one, too. That's 2 and even though I have a nice army attack from units, I've lost virtually every fight this war because of this. Farming weapons/armor and tapping on shoes and masks is going to be a priority for me between now and next conquest cycle.

Saint-BEL
11-15-2014, 03:40 AM
That is nice but I feel more like cutting my losses.

Game doesn't make much sense anymore when the most important stats (units) are now rather irrelevant compared to gear.
We can farm gear all we want but it will never have same strength as gear won in past events. With units and bonuses I could live with, but this change is just to much of a downwards spiral...

Shadows
11-15-2014, 09:54 AM
The fact you minions can attack/ raid us and win.!!! Regardless of the fact we are 1 billion higher in stats **** wod

LOLOL Free players are minions? Really??

Jomama1
11-15-2014, 10:42 AM
LOL Charli - it does seem remarkably dumb for gree to screw gemmers - I am happy we have some common ground

Charli DW
11-15-2014, 06:54 PM
LOLOL Free players are minions? Really??

Minions in regards to stats.. I'm lvl 160.. Att of 1.5 billion.. And losing to peeps of 400 mill att.. Wtf.??

Charli DW
11-15-2014, 06:55 PM
Sorry.. Mean 400 mill Defence*

Charli DW
11-15-2014, 06:58 PM
Last year or so has meant nothing.. Hours upon hours of time dedicated to this stupid game.. Real life relationships suffering.. Lmao .. I know you all know what I mean.. The nagging" get off that f...n game..:rolleyes:for what.?? To get screwed over..

Charli DW
11-15-2014, 07:03 PM
And GREE .. How the hell do you add pics to profile.??:( lmfao

Charli DW
11-15-2014, 07:12 PM
Mods.. Let's see how iTunes feel about the reset in game when all gemmers put complaint in insisting on total refund..

Shadows
11-15-2014, 09:21 PM
Minions in regards to stats.. I'm lvl 160.. Att of 1.5 billion.. And losing to peeps of 400 mill att.. Wtf.??

Oh believe me I feel your pain, Charli! I just flashed back to Despicable Me and cracked up!!

Charli DW
11-15-2014, 11:44 PM
Yes, saint. I know this. I'm one of the ones screwed because since weapons and armor have always been totally useless (at least for the last 2 or so years, anyway), I have never stocked up on them. I can't win any fights because of it, so I know all about getting screwed.

The way hero equipment has always been, most people my level or higher have at least twice the defense as anybody has attack, so you almost always lose the hero equipment roll. That's 1. I have a crappy army attack equip number so I also almost always lose that one, too. That's 2 and even though I have a nice army attack from units, I've lost virtually every fight this war because of this. Farming weapons/armor and tapping on shoes and masks is going to be a priority for me between now and next conquest cycle.

Skill points plays a big part also.. If unloaded all onto hero strength as I have done... Screwed.!! To try and catch up to others who've unloaded theirs onto army and attack.. Near impossible and would require levelling up at record speed

the_bob
11-15-2014, 11:54 PM
Skill points plays a big part also.. If unloaded all onto hero strength as I have done... Screwed.!! To try and catch up to others who've unloaded theirs onto army and attack.. Near impossible and would require levelling up at record speed

Hindsight is clearly 20/20. Nobody expected this change and so nobody could have predicted that Army Attack stat would be useful.

Charli DW
11-16-2014, 12:32 AM
Hindsight is clearly 20/20. Nobody expected this change and so nobody could have predicted that Army Attack stat would be useful.

Yep.. Damn it GREE .. Stick to the plan.!!! Follow the yellow brick road.. No detours.!!! Hehehe

Charli DW
11-16-2014, 12:38 AM
And GREE .. Whilst I'm here.. What's with the silly titles.. Steady Scribe.. In bobs case.. Articulate Author.. No offence intended Bob.. But nothing I've seen that he's wrote deserves the description " articulate author" lmao.. Kidding Bob.. See what screwing KA has done.?? Since I've refused to open game until I can leave game totally after war.. I'm that bored now I'm left no choice but to harass / hang here.!!!:p lol

HCobra
11-16-2014, 01:38 AM
I totally agree with Charli😳😬👍

Charli DW
11-17-2014, 03:49 AM
I totally agree with Charli������

Hahaha.. Now that's got to hurt Cobra.. Lmao

Jnsolberg
11-17-2014, 04:49 AM
I'm pretty sure I remember Tadaaah saying that we would be able to reallocate our skill points at some point in the future. I just can't find the post.

Valid or
11-17-2014, 06:53 AM
Easy enough to fix, grind for the gear, you have enough over all stats for your army +bonuses, you just need the gear for them and you.
If you can beat 2/3 three stats you will win it seems.

RandomUser
11-17-2014, 07:35 AM
This is all so deliciously rich.

If you've been playing awhile, this isn't the first time, the game dynamics have shifted. In fact, this latest shift has swung things back a bit more towards how the game was originally. When's the last time anyone attacked a mob on a map that wasn't to complete a LTQ? GREE brought a neglected part of the game back to life, and in some ways took some of the downside to leveling and turned it into a positive.

So sorry you got "screwed" by GREE. However, wait a year, and things will shift in another direction, too.

Lys
11-17-2014, 09:11 AM
This is all so deliciously rich.

If you've been playing awhile, this isn't the first time, the game dynamics have shifted. In fact, this latest shift has swung things back a bit more towards how the game was originally. When's the last time anyone attacked a mob on a map that wasn't to complete a LTQ? GREE brought a neglected part of the game back to life, and in some ways took some of the downside to leveling and turned it into a positive.

So sorry you got "screwed" by GREE. However, wait a year, and things will shift in another direction, too.

It's called being shut down. And I remember that, the issue is I also went and bought all the axes and armors needed and side junk to ensure I had the 1,500 of everything... without a skill point reset, I simply cannot meet the defense level or attack level so many others have because I have 0 points in my attack and defense skills. It's a massive handicap, this shift in game dynamics so shortly before war.

Totalwar
11-17-2014, 10:00 AM
I not a free player and love new update because I put the time in farming maps and putting all my skill points into hero result very high Hero stats and Army Equib def and Att result I can mega billion stats players great fun lol.

Jnsolberg
11-17-2014, 10:26 AM
I don't think that Hero Strength skill points actually figure into your hero a/d stats. Attack and defense skill points do effect your hero stats.
We need to get a reset of our skill points ASAP.

the_bob
11-17-2014, 12:01 PM
It's called being shut down. And I remember that, the issue is I also went and bought all the axes and armors needed and side junk to ensure I had the 1,500 of everything... without a skill point reset, I simply cannot meet the defense level or attack level so many others have because I have 0 points in my attack and defense skills. It's a massive handicap, this shift in game dynamics so shortly before war.

We're in the same boat, Lys. Gree owes us all one free respec.

Acadian
11-17-2014, 05:25 PM
I don't mind the changes so much, but the lack of warning blows, I have 3 characters, 2 have hardly any weapons b/c I never saw the point, it didn't do anything, so when they made a sudden change before a war they could have at least added a drop down menu to buy 100-1500 at a time and not have to click it 1500 times to buy weapons, especially when the patch prior to this one absolutely lagged the crap out of my iPhone 4 compared to before patch. A drop down would be nice, and maybe even a way to turn down the graphics to help with lag.

Shadows
11-17-2014, 06:56 PM
I'm pretty sure I remember Tadaaah saying that we would be able to reallocate our skill points at some point in the future. I just can't find the post.

Derek mentioned it in the AMA post found in the archives of the announcement page:

Quote Originally Posted by Vile Lynn View Post
Hi hi Thank you for being here!

Can you please explain Attack and Def Skill Points?
How are they calculated into our raw stats?


This was useful when the game first released but due to the stat inflation the skill points do not add a lot to the players stats anymore. This is something we are currently looking revamping with a future update to the game. We are also looking at adding an item that will allow all players reallocate their skill points when we release the update.

Frostpocket
11-18-2014, 12:24 AM
Minions? Outrageous! This is a game. Those who spend heaps and then call the rest of us minions, only have themselves to blame. And if you didn't equp your allies, well, more fool you! Stop blaming others for your own shortcomings. We are all responsible for our own spending!

I think the timing of the changes was ill conceived, but what does a mere minion know about these things.

the_bob
11-18-2014, 02:56 AM
Can you please explain Attack and Def Skill Points?
How are they calculated into our raw stats?


Seems to add 1/10th of your level to your equipment stats (hero and army) per point spent. So for example, if you are level 150 then it will add 15 per point spent.