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[JAG] Ryan
01-29-2015, 03:26 PM
Hi Gree

The Raid Boss has started and i see you replaced the health potions with energy refills partly.

I think especially many lower and mid guilds liked the health potions a lot and it gave them a lot of fun back to the game.

Without those and by increasing the Boss Health that much im afraid more people will suffer and wont enjoy this event as well as next war as they did in last 2 cycles.

Please reconsider to give out at least some health potions in this Raid Boss again and im sure the entire KA community will be very thankfull.

truthteller
01-29-2015, 03:31 PM
Ryan;1458351']Hi Gree

The Raid Boss has started and i see you replaced the health potions with energy refills partly.

I think especially many lower and mid guilds liked the health potions a lot and it gave them a lot of fun back to the game.

Without those and by increasing the Boss Health that much im afraid more people will suffer and wont enjoy this event as well as next war as they did in last 2 cycles.

Please reconsider to give out at least some health potions again and im sure the entire KA community will be very thankfull.

totally agree
health potions bring 2 good thing to KA

1- top 10 guilds, have lots of fun finishing RB, jumping to help others and farm some potions, which you (gree) should know, makes no difference in the amount of gems they will spend during war

2- all other guilds, try to get as many as they can to use in war, which in turn allows them to have more fun (better gaming experience which is gree's goal) and at the same time, "push" other guilds to use gems during exciting battles

Please put potions back into RB as drop, remove another unit, or even mix them up with the energy refill

in the end, it is a win-win for gree as players will have a better game experience and will also use more gems which = more revenues for gree

Hobbs
01-29-2015, 03:32 PM
GREE is there some mistake on the Raid Boss Health???
From last cycle on some levels the boss health had gone up over 200% !!!
Are you serious? Or are you trying to kill this game?
Every event brings more disappointment and yet another Slap in The Face.

Tojo
01-29-2015, 03:41 PM
Totally agree. This will be tough for our guild. Thought we were making progress now we move backwards again.

Peter Gotti
01-29-2015, 03:46 PM
We will make it anyway but you take a lot of fun away from the guilds who just started to make the heroic part, make it a little easier so that they got a chance at least. And please take the battle refills back, my second guild lived up thanks to them and took some fun back in the game.

Peter Gotti
01-29-2015, 04:01 PM
Interesting to see that Gree puts out a pack so that people can buy orbs and then lowers the cost for them so the buy is useless. You are not open with your actions Gree and that is disgusting in my eyes.

Mattman@WLD
01-29-2015, 04:11 PM
NOTE: Title should read 1.73T to 5.2T jump = 300% (Can't edit a title once its been posted)

GREE, we understand the new buzz word of the day is "rebalancing". We know that when you use this word it really means you are going to do something fairly radical to force gem spending. But this is beyond anything close to balance. In fact it blows right past unfair and lands squarely in the land of harsh desperation. Last event you increased the overall boss health by ~30%. This event is now increased over the last event 300%. AND you remove a very popular feature like Health Potion drops (just when we will likely need them the most). This really means only a handful of the strongest teams will have any chance to complete this event.

We ask for your help in first understanding why such a radical jump. Second we ask for you to reconsider this huge increase and reduce it down to something more manageable to at least give hope to our community. Third, as Ryan stated in the beginning message can you please add back in the chance to win some potions? And finally, while I am making wishes at the wishing well, can you also post what the final prize will be (since you long since got rid of prize splash screens)?

Gal
01-29-2015, 04:29 PM
Dear GREE (and by dear, I am not certain what I mean).
Please refer to the above post by Mattman.
While the health potions not being there is a huge disappointment, the bigger issues are the increase in health and minimums required to get drops from this raid boys.
Previously, you indicated that you wouldn't mess with this event. Once again, you are proving to be telling tales.

Are you gearing this game only to the players in top10 guilds that have been playing since inception? It certainly feels that way. This needs to be fixed ASAP.

Please please please... Look at fixing the increases and while you're at it, add health potions back to drops.

Jomama1
01-29-2015, 04:57 PM
Posting this both places as I cant wait to hear the developers explanation - the ony acceptable one is an apology for the gross error.

Just want to make sure you understand how bad this is- players begrudgingly accept your epic boss changes and work their butts off to finish, proud to get better so they can do better at raid boss. Then raid boss comes and they are much worse than they were before. Why would they stay?????

Jnsolberg
01-29-2015, 05:34 PM
To make it worse, the 39/39 prize is a 116k/66k unit with a temporary -15% lockbox cool down for the next box event

I swear Gree is trying to ruin this game.

Chad2
01-29-2015, 06:52 PM
Wow, GREE raises the raid boss damage by over 100% on the high level bosses and Removes Health Potions reward drops! The Health potion drops were imo one of the best additions to KA you have ever done. Now you remove them. I know why they did it, but it won't increase the amount of gems I purchase, I hope others don't increase their gem buying also. Thanks for removing more of the fun from the game

Andy KAR
01-30-2015, 12:26 AM
Hold on GREE your a few months early for April fools.
Oh sorry i forgot that you seem to be practicing for it every week lately.
I guess we should no longer be surprised anymore at your total disrespect to all the KA people that help pay your wages. We put up with substandard garbage all the time it seems. Crafting, EB changes and now a gigantic leap in RB boss health. You can't even be bothered to enter a comma to show us the difference between millions and billions on ours or rivals stats. And splash screens?
Where are the SS for prizes. Are you hiding it again because it's a steaming pile?
If it were not for the strength of the community forged by members ( not Gree ) this game would have been dead in the water a long time ago.
A community does not exist with just the top 5 guilds.
I WILL NOT buy again from you unless parity is restored, I will encourage everyone else I meet in game to do likewise.
RIP KA , your makers have killed you.

Jordette
01-30-2015, 01:16 AM
[/Imagine a war with only the guilds that finish this RB??!!!]

Valid or
01-30-2015, 02:55 AM
[/Imagine a war with only the guilds that finish this RB??!!!]

Look at the current war leader boards, points are going up on the top half, points are dropping on the lower half.
Reason is a lot of guilds are merging together, and the number of active guilds is also changing as a result.
Guild numbers are dropping rapidly as it is...soon it will start to affect match times, as there won't be enough guilds for gree's matching system to work right.

E-I
01-30-2015, 07:19 AM
I feel bad for any sucker that just started playing this game.


No, wait. Actually I don't. They have probably already quit and are wiser for doing so.

Sofussk
01-30-2015, 08:27 AM
Why ruin the game completely?
1. You ruined the fun in EB, Making it so damn hard to complete. I cant do it without gem now!
2. You ruin RB by an increase about 330% stronger than last event?
3. You took away Health potions as drops, why?
4. I Think You forget the amounts of gems top players used to get where they are/where, now all are back to zero, and have to start over?
5. I dont mind You Making events harder, but theese changed are way beyond fair.
6. We cant get any stronger on equip, becouse we cant craft better stuff!?
7. The prize for completing RB normal was a crappy unit with temp. bonus attached?
8. Why dont You post prize for finishing heroic? Is it worth fighting for?

You need to fix things, ASAP.
Sofussk FMB, top 5 guild

Summer Kessler Sharma
01-30-2015, 09:51 AM
So you're telling us that you don't want us to buy gems or even play at all?! Because when we do you yank anything that's at the grasp of our fingertips away? I don't understand how this RB is fair at all!!!! How do you begin to justify our hard work?! We play everyday we try our best at all you throw at us, but this....this is just a let down we don't even want to try for! I have told everyone in our guild that no gems is the way to go now! Because there isn't any point in it! Only a few will get to finish? Why? What good does that do for you? When only the top guilds gem to finish or try to finish? Does it not make more sense for you to have more people buy gems and try for something that's attainable in the near future than not have us try at all? If I'm correct only a small handful can complete this again. So I'm thinking you only want their money and the rest of us, well our money doesn't matter maybe, because we don't qualify for the rewards program? I believe it would make more sense to have lots of people buy a mountain here and there than just the people in top 10 guilds. We have been working hard as a community and you just broke that with this event! I've never been so mad or disappointed that I wanted to completely quit this game until now. I will give it time to see if you can fix these horrible changes if not I have a feeling we will be looking into more suitable games to join as a team. So that we can actually accomplish something with the hard work and time we put in. Sincerely a top 50/75 guild member who is ready to let the top 10 have this game to themselves.

Jomama1
01-30-2015, 10:04 AM
I am the founder of a top ten guild and we are clearly disgusted with this travesty.

As usual, Gree has nothing to say.

Gree - do you have any ides how much planning goes into raid boss by guilds . Why would you triple the difficulty. Now my guild must scramble to finish with some siting out, but worse, many aspiring top 25 and lower guilds just had all their hopes crushed.

Why couldn't this get mentioned in your developer session?

Explain how this will help your shrinking player base.

Why would anyone play this game when they work hard, gem hard, and get worse?

Why is normal prize so crappy?

Why shouldn't we all just go to iTunes and ask for our money back? You seem to have zero regard for your players.

Samskill
01-30-2015, 12:25 PM
FULLBAR to GREE AGAIN !

Palewood
01-30-2015, 12:45 PM
This is another poor decision by Gree and another display of being out of touch with your players. Of course change is great, new things are great. Anything that devalues peoples accounts or time is not

It's hard to know where to start on this one;

1. Please understand that your players are playing for many, many hours and spending cash to improve their characters and get better. We measure that improvement by how far we can get on the big quests, RB, EB and war. After 2 years, this was to be our first RB without assistance from other guilds, 2 years of growing our accounts, working with over 100 other players and coordinating 24/7. GONE

2. The effort as already identified in the planning for RB is substantial, it's a good event which requires plenty of communication, planning and coordinating. My guild start about 2 weeks prior to the event. GONE , no chance of recovery

3. Enjoying the game. Working to complete quests and develope your guild to eventually complete the very hardest parts of the game is what creates the enjoyment - working as a guild, being successful in the end. GONE, this is not making the game enjoyable.

I think overall it's called CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE , what is the experience of your customers in relation to these changes and what does it mean?

Will I be able to convince my guild that their accounts aren't trash, that it is worth the effort to get back to being able to complete RB, is it worth the effort to plan ahead and get ready for next RB when you can't be sure what it will be.

It's about balance and understanding the customer experience - I don't think these changes would be made if you applied normal business thinking, let alone gaming thinking. Of course change is great, new things are great. Anything that devalues peoples accounts or time is not.

We understand you need to challenge the top players and make sure the business can earn enough money.
What are the alternatives;
1. A new event - set whatever requirements you like, it's new, it doent make you feel you wasted 2 years developing an account that can't do better than it did 2 years ago.

2. Do not make radical changes to the big 3 events. Most guilds have a mix of gemmers and non gemmers , the gemmers are happy to carry the guild if everyone contributes and they can see it is actually possible to complete a quest and the reward fits the difficulty level - this type of action turns off the gem spend for the majority

truthteller
01-30-2015, 01:03 PM
Since we all know

1- Greedy does not really care

2- they claim they want to improve gamming experience for they players, yet do the opossite

3- they will not make any changes to Current RB, "because it is unfair to those that already are far ahead than the rest"

I have done the only thing I can do.............I went to apple store look for KA app and wrote a review about this game........... no need to tell what kind of disappointing review I wrote, as we all know

I suggest everyone does the same (write a quick review), even if it is just a couple of words of how you feel about their "procedures"

Jomama1
01-30-2015, 01:40 PM
Well said Palewood.

Where are you gree?

Care to answer these concerns?

I would personally like to know whether your developers are too stupid to understand these things, too lazy to think, or just cruel. Eiter way this game continues to die. I can't understand killing the cash cow.

truthteller
01-30-2015, 01:54 PM
Well said Palewood.

Where are you gree?

Care to answer these concerns?

I would personally like to know whether your developers are too stupid to understand these things, too lazy to think, or just cruel. Eiter way this game continues to die. I can't understand killing the cash cow.

I doubt we are gona see them today, maybe on Monday........... today is Payday, so they will probably stay away from the forum to enjoy their weekend without having to "think" about how the are killing the game, leave early and get some beers for the game on Sunday

Peter Gotti
01-30-2015, 02:50 PM
I'm very disappointed at Gree, very much because of their lack of information in dramatic changes to the game but most of all their way to try to kill the subject by silence, you are behaving like a small kid who did something wrong. Man up and answer all questions TODAY.

Andy KAR
01-31-2015, 07:56 AM
Just the lvl 100 bosses alone add up to over 1.8 trillion health. To put it into context, that's more than the whole of last RB.

Insane 👎

Jomama1
01-31-2015, 11:40 AM
And the GREE workers stay quiet - COWARDS- Just pull the plug on the servers if you want to kill the game - you are like the boyfriend too scared to break up so you just act badly and hope we do it. Pathetic really. Do you take pride in your work here development team? Do you tell your buds you work on a great game or do you just laugh about us on your weekends. Ruining good things for money is shameful.... Where is your pride?

the_bob
01-31-2015, 02:54 PM
Just pull the plug on the servers if you want to kill the game

My name is Bob and I support this message.

Samskill
02-02-2015, 09:25 AM
My full health regeneration time now takes 14mins instead of 11mins with all the earned bonuses. Anyone else got this issue.? Happen to my other account too!
Once again, FULLBAR to GREE!

E-I
02-02-2015, 11:20 AM
My full health regeneration time now takes 14mins instead of 11mins with all the earned bonuses. Anyone else got this issue.? Happen to my other account too!
Once again, FULLBAR to GREE!

Do you have any bonuses that extend the energy bar past 100%?

Vile Lynn
02-02-2015, 02:19 PM
Everybody... Send in tickets.

Jnsolberg
02-02-2015, 03:17 PM
I doubt we are gona see them today, maybe on Monday........... today is Payday, so they will probably stay away from the forum to enjoy their weekend without having to "think" about how the are killing the game, leave early and get some beers for the game on Sunday

It's now Monday, after 6pm on the east coast, USA and not a peep from Gree. So much for communication.

Jomama1
02-02-2015, 04:39 PM
They get a paid day off as a bonus for the crafting idea


Where are you Gree????

Keijen
02-04-2015, 05:17 AM
Worse Raid Boss ever!!