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Flipcydesae
02-11-2015, 05:54 PM
Are You Insane?

Jnsolberg
02-11-2015, 05:59 PM
Are You Insane?

My thoughts exactly!

Jomama1
02-11-2015, 06:17 PM
So your answer to shrinking player base is to push more players out the door? Do you release how intense most concentrate for war? 6 days is a ball buster. Does anyone want this? I think we lose even more players. Why????

Can this be reconsidered please?

Krissy
02-11-2015, 06:17 PM
Um. I have a job and a real life and as of now a family. Kinda want to keep them :).

truthteller
02-11-2015, 06:52 PM
Are You Insane?


My thoughts exactly!


So your answer to shrinking player base is to push more players out the door? Do you release how intense most concentrate for war? 6 days is a ball buster. Does anyone want this? I think we lose even more players. Why????

Can this be reconsidered please?

They do not care

they did a 7 day war in MW with the "america" theme, just because they "thought" that because it was the battle for America, it would be fun and all players would wanted to do a week long war

they even advertised a "community" event where all points made by the community would add up for prizes to ALL players, first they advertised as BP points, then they changed as usual stating it was a typo and it was for war points, first prize was for 1b points total or something and 4th prize was for 6+ billion points


but in reality it backfire them

on day 2, they saw, nobody was "rushing" to make points, so they had to tell people points would be worth double next day, and next day points were the same, so they TRIPLE the points for the next day, points were same as days before so on last day they quadruple the points

If they have not done any of that the "community" would have win...........NOTHING, not even the first tier prize

later they came saying the event was a total success............lol

seems they want to try that here too

and even top 1 and 2, scored pretty much the same as if it was a 3 day war

Nacon10
02-11-2015, 07:56 PM
I like the 6 day war :)

Tojo
02-11-2015, 08:21 PM
Don't like 6 day war.
Will fight last three days
and actually gain a day back.

Jnsolberg
02-11-2015, 08:29 PM
So your answer to shrinking player base is to push more players out the door? Do you release how intense most concentrate for war? 6 days is a ball buster. Does anyone want this? I think we lose even more players. Why????

Can this be reconsidered please?

Gree, how much time do you think your customers can devote to this game?
I predict a massive exodus.

Valid or
02-11-2015, 09:19 PM
I think most people like the idea of a classic war, useing the old pvp rules.
The length 6 days is a bit much.

truthteller
02-11-2015, 10:59 PM
I like the 6 day war :)

Hablando como todo in Naco:p

DragCro
02-12-2015, 04:06 AM
I am posting as a player that have friends in this game .
I know that developers had a good intention with trying to add some new features so the game would not be boring,but the 6 day war i think it is to much,a majority of players agrees with me.
People have real life obligations,work,family,about 90% or more people that plays this game are adults.
I don't want because of some event that takes to much time to see exodus of the players from this game.
I like this game but i like and the players,this is simbioze relationship and one without other can't exist.
This game is not jusy game this game is a place where we have our dear friends and nobody want to see them gone.
So i hope developer team will see that too and make this event shorter.
Thank you

[JAG] Ryan
02-12-2015, 04:26 AM
Dear Devs

i believe you want to make the game less boring and more interesting, hence the recent note about the 6, or in fact 5 day war.

KA, like many other games are based on players competition. How good am i compared to others, how good is my team compared to others, how good compared to new or old players, low or high level players, etc.. This obviously require some kind of stability within the given factors of measurements to be able to have some kind of comparing benchmarks. In addition this game also lives from in-app purchases which means that at least some people need to use money or those purchases allow people to get stronger in a shorter time period. That said, it means that a solid group of your players base is above the age of 16, has a job and/or maybe a family.

Since years i see players asking to understand this circumstance, either in asking to have wars once per month or by asking to avoid certain time consuming events during certain holiday days where its obvious that people want to spend some more time with their families.

Especially wars have always been the biggest team comparison event since teams interacted directly together. Many people try to pay full attention to wars since it has this competitive team factor.

In past you have increased the war frequency from 3 to 2 or less weeks cylces. Almost the entire player base has mentioned their concerns and expressed their unhappiness about that. Finally you have changed it back to 3 weeks cycles which is less then once per month like asked for but better then the changes before.

Now you want to introdce a 5 or 6 day war and obviously hope to make it more interesting. The opposite is for many players the case. It also doesnt really matter now that you want to use the old army stats as factor only since we all had now enough time to improve the other 2 factors so that at least a certain achievement in competition was build.

Games should be and stay interesting so changes are required, but the frequency and heaviness of those are the deciding factors of successfull changes or complete failures.

We have received very much changes in last 2-3 months. It started with the additional factors, which had a huge impact on several parts of the game (wars, pvp attacks, raids, etc.). You have then extended the changes to the Epic Boss and also to the Raid Boss.

By all understanding for the necessity of a new balancing factor and the need for changes to make and keep the game interesting, please understand that too much changes in a short time are counterproductive and exactly do the opposite you may try to achieve.

Hence i can only strongly recommend that you plan and choose the changes or adaptions wisely and keep a certain more generous time frame for their implementation in mind. Also try to understand who your players base is and what impact any of the planed changes might have (know your customer ;-))

By saying that i cant imagine that any of the player (except the ones who by occasion have holidays and dont have families lol) who has a job and/or a family wish to have an extended war. The current 3 days war model is already exhausting enough for free players as well as for gem spenders and many people organize their lives around this event.

Hemce if you want to improve things or make them more attractive or interesting, reduce the war duration to 2 days and/or make the cycles 4 weeks instead of 3. That would also allow you to introduce a new event each month since you would gain a week in each cycle. The additional week could be used to bring events providing more attractivity and variety since it could also be an alternating event like every month something new based on your readiness to develop something or the requests from your community.

Sorry for the long post but couldnt do it shorter and express all i wanted to.

Hobbs
02-12-2015, 05:11 AM
We ask for shorter wars as 3 days is too much for most players..........GREE answer by introducing a 6 day war!!!!!
Really? I'm seeing fellow gamers and team members quitting at an alarming rate,most of these state that game is too time consuming and feels like "a second job" sure others have heard this too!
GREE please listen to your customer base (while you still have some left)
You're going the wrong way,reduce events don't increase them

BeastMode...on
02-12-2015, 05:29 AM
They have done this in both Crime City and Modern War. They do things in those games first then bring it to KA. New way of calculating wins with attacking (3 different stats) was done in those games first. Legendary EB quest, done there first. The 6 day war was already a done deal. I'm just glad it will be with the old style of calculating stats/wins. Small victory if any

Alisha.Banshee
02-12-2015, 08:09 AM
I really am on the verge on throwing in the towel. I am a guild leader and a 3-day war takes a lot of my time in tracking opponent stats, wins, losses, who's playing, who's not, etc. I cannot handle 6 days of war. I do have a real life, a real job and a real family all of which come first to this game. I, like others here, would prefer a 2-day war every 4 weeks. Since Gree doesn't provide any guild management tools, it takes a lot of extra time to keep up with 40+ members. Slow down all the events and smell the roses !!!!

Nacon10
02-12-2015, 08:56 AM
comon folks its a one time event. nobody is gonna make you declare and attack every single hour for 6 days.

Jnsolberg
02-12-2015, 09:25 AM
comon folks its a one time event. nobody is gonna make you declare and attack every single hour for 6 days.

Holy Poop, what are you smoking? If the guilds fight and spend gems, of course Gree will keep the 6 day war format.
They have no concept of long term growth, just short term gain.
I'm thinking I need to step back and take it easy a bit more.
EB gets harder and harder +41% increase this time, with no corresponding increase in Hero equipment.
RB got 320% harder last time, and I think only 5 guilds managed to finish, and that was with a lot of help in my case
Now doubling the length of wars.
Gree says they're not trying to kill the game. If true, I suppose they're only trying to kill the players!

I suppose I should ask what Gree is smoking. Lol

Our only hope is to spend less gems on the 6 day war than we do in the normal 3 day wars. I don't see how we keep up the pace for 6 days anyway.

truthteller
02-12-2015, 09:30 AM
comon folks its a one time event. nobody is gonna make you declare and attack every single hour for 6 days.


Holy Poop, what are you smoking? If the guilds fight and spend gems, of course Gree will keep the 6 day war format.
They have no concept of long term growth, just short term gain.
I'm thinking I need to step back and take it easy a bit more.
EB gets harder and harder +41% increase this time, with no corresponding increase in Hero equipment.
RB got 320% harder last time, and I think only 5 guilds managed to finish, and that was with a lot of help in my case
Now doubling the length of wars.
Gree says they're not trying to kill the game. If true, I suppose they're only trying to kill the players!

I suppose I should ask what Gree is smoking. Lol

Our only hope is to spend less gems on the 6 day war than we do in the normal 3 day wars. I don't see how we keep up the pace for 6 days anyway.


I think GREEdy is hoping that RKSB will come swingging hard to take #1 spot from FIB
So GREEdy thinking is............... well in a 3 day war this two guild made 170m points then in 6 days, maybe they will make 400m points fighting for 1st place, so we can double our revenues, after all, they will spend gems no matter how bad we treat them................yeap, that is the way to go to increase revenues.............lets have a 6 day war:rolleyes:

E-I
02-12-2015, 09:34 AM
after all, they will spend gems no matter how bad we treat them.

...or however useless they make the top prizes. :p

truthteller
02-12-2015, 09:37 AM
...or however useless they make the top prizes. :p

what are prizes?........lol.........those are just "carrots" not prizes:rolleyes:

Vile Lynn
02-12-2015, 09:46 AM
No rest for the wicked.
I actually feel a bit bad for the highly competitive, top guilds, like RKSB & FUN who can finish the RB in hours.

I would be embarrased to tell my family, my friends & my accountant what I'm doing for 6-7days, so I won't.

mmalkove
02-12-2015, 02:30 PM
I am a long time player and I still like the new stat format, I don't want to go back to the old PvP rules for even for 1 war personally. And as far as the length , I will just play when I can like we all will.

b4davis
02-12-2015, 02:57 PM
Well said Hobbs

E-I
02-13-2015, 05:39 AM
I am a long time player and I still like the new stat format, I don't want to go back to the old PvP rules for even for 1 war personally. And as far as the length , I will just play when I can like we all will.

I do not care for the new format. But that said, I dislike the idea of switching formats even more. How are we supposed to build our characters when Gree keeps changing which stats are used? Why should I spend gems on equipment when nobody knows if it will main relevant 2 wars from now?

Jomama1
02-13-2015, 08:45 AM
This was the final straw for another great player I know yesterday who retired.

Please gree - either change this back or at least engage in dialogue. This is just brutal and cruel.

Jomama1
02-15-2015, 09:18 AM
Gree - please provide a reasoned response why this is necessary - the vast majority don't want this and people are quitting - better prizes makes it worse not better as people will lose real life responsibilities - you are forcing people out the door- please go back to normal.

Valid or
02-15-2015, 09:29 AM
Gree - please provide a reasoned response why this is necessary - the vast majority don't want this and people are quitting - better prizes makes it worse not better as people will lose real life responsibilities - you are forcing people out the door- please go back to normal.
Honestly I don't think they will say more than they did in the ama.
No one has quit from our guild over this, all I have asked from our members is play the way you normally do in war(no gem increase needed), if one has r/l activities and can't make the extended war full time, no problems, put in the normal time you would anyway. As for our placement or our sister guild placement normally top50/200, if we don't do it, so be it. Gree will not bleed us. We will still do our best, but will let the chips fall where they will.
Do We like this idea of a 6 day war.
NO!
But decided one has to just make do and live with it.

DragCro
02-16-2015, 07:24 AM
Can we get this event reduced to 4 day war or less?
Lots of guild founders are complaining over this and they are not happy,they are losing players because of long events..
And those players are not just free player,they are gemmers that spend

Jomama1
02-16-2015, 12:34 PM
Bumping this up as it is the single most important issue in KA now.

sdunn00
02-16-2015, 06:53 PM
I'm not exactly thrilled with a 6 day war either. Like many others, I work full time & have a life outside of this game. In the 2 different guilds I participate in, one as a founder, we are not requiring participation for the full 6 days during this war. Period. This game can be a serious time sucking grind without throwing a 6 day war in the mix. But we all have free will to choose not to play for 6 days. Personally, I will be playing 2 days & intermittently in evenings when or if I feel like it & have the time.

Gal
02-16-2015, 07:32 PM
http://forums.gree.net/showthread.php?105948-Open-Letter-to-GREE-from-the-founders-of-Kingdom-Age-Immediate-action-requested!&p=1466125#post1466125

kruppe
02-17-2015, 02:54 PM
This was the final straw for another great player I know yesterday who retired.

Please gree - either change this back or at least engage in dialogue. This is just brutal and cruel.

These will be of course, an objective of winning 120 battles in a row. Good luck on that....