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captainfly
04-19-2015, 04:34 AM
Hi Guys,

I am asking me, how far are people really willing to go to get TOP-Ranking in FL.
How can it be, that in Frontline a player have already 8 hours before end over 1.8 bil of Deploy-Points.

1. First looking, on normal playing:

- I did every war since start and all time only with boats & gunners.
- I didn't miss any deploy-point since this start of fl.
- And most time I had deploypoints with the max multiplier of 2.75x multiplier.
- only using in one war 75 Gold to reach the Indi - Prize.

I have now about 48 mil deploypoints just using 75 gold for this 15/15 indi-prize.
That mean I deployed 48 mil and that is the mostly possible 100% non-gold-usage deploypoints.

2. So now lookin again on the TOP-1:

The 1.76 bil more deploy-points from TOP-1 means:

1x Main Carrier Ship give 32000 depl. x 2.75 = 88000 deploypoints
1x Gunner give 11945 deply. x 2.75 = 32849 deploypoints

1.76 bil deploy / 88000 => 19886 Main Carrier needed.
.......................................or......... .......................................
1.76 bil deploy / 32849 => 53578 Gunners needed.

3. Result:

So if there is no glitch or fake gold, the TOP-1 has invested already:

a) With Main-Carriers:
> 19886 Gold only for deploys
> 735782 Gold for Main Carrier Ships (37 Gold every ship).
= 755668 Gold => (if Android) is prize every 1500 Gold actually 46 €
= 23375 € - real money

b) With Gunners:
> 53578 Gold only for deploys
= 53578 Gold => (if Android) is prize every 1500 Gold actually 46 €
= 1657 € - real money

So are there really peopley paying over 1500 € just for 1 FL?
Or is there a glitch that allow to deploy more without paying?

Jg48
04-19-2015, 04:44 AM
Lots and lots of money. That's the new gree motto you want the good pixel units you have to spend spend and spend some more.

Ozymandias
04-19-2015, 05:27 AM
Well, they will be buying gold in sufficient quantities to get in the top bonus tier which is up to an extra 65% off... So closer to 500 euro, but yes there are people paying that for the game. The top 50 players spend serious coin.

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-19-2015, 05:34 AM
Hi Guys,

I am asking me, how far are people really willing to go to get TOP-Ranking in FL.
How can it be, that in Frontline a player have already 8 hours before end over 1.8 bil of Deploy-Points.

1. First looking, on normal playing:

- I did every war since start and all time only with boats & gunners.
- I didn't miss any deploy-point since this start of fl.
- And most time I had deploypoints with the max multiplier of 2,75x multiplier.
- only using in one war 75 Gold to reach the Indi - Prize.

I have now about 48 mil deploypoints just using 75 gold for this 15/15 indi-prize.
That mean I deployed 48 mil and that is the mostly possible 100% non-gold-usage deploypoints.

2. So now lookin again on the TOP-1:

The 1.76 bil more deploy-points from TOP-1 means:

1x Main Carrier Ship give 32.000 depl. x 2,75 = 88.000 deploypoints
1x Gunner give 11.945 deply. x 2,75 = 32.849 deploypoints

1.76 bil deploy / 88.000 => 19.886 Main Carrier needed.
.......................................or......... .......................................
1.76 bil deploy / 32.849 => 53.578 Gunners needed.

3. Result:

So if there is no glitch or fake gold, the TOP-1 has invested already:

a) With Main-Carriers:
> 19.886 Gold only for deploys
> 735.782 Gold for Main Carrier Ships (37 Gold every ship).
= 755.668 Gold => (if Android) is prize every 1.500 Gold actually 46,40 €
= 23.375,33 € - real money

b) With Gunners:
> 53.578 Gold only for deploys
= 53.578 Gold => (if Android) is prize every 1.500 Gold actually 46,40 €
= 1.657,34 € - real money

So are there really peopley paying over 1.500 € just for 1 FL?
Or is there a glitch that allow to deploy more without paying?


All I know is that if the gold ain't REAL, I bet the MONEY ain't either.
You found a very, dirty, little secret; my inquisitive friend!!!

Danger Mouse
04-19-2015, 07:03 AM
Yeah my Dewie friend, either that, or you're just dealing with the same mind set that will spend $800 on a hamburger covered with gold leaf, just so they can brag about eating an $800 hamburger covered with gold leaf - regardless of whether it tasted good or not.

sstuutss
04-19-2015, 07:09 AM
Hi Guys,

I am asking me, how far are people really willing to go to get TOP-Ranking in FL.
How can it be, that in Frontline a player have already 8 hours before end over 1.8 bil of Deploy-Points.

1. First looking, on normal playing:

- I did every war since start and all time only with boats & gunners.
- I didn't miss any deploy-point since this start of fl.
- And most time I had deploypoints with the max multiplier of 2,75x multiplier.
- only using in one war 75 Gold to reach the Indi - Prize.

I have now about 48 mil deploypoints just using 75 gold for this 15/15 indi-prize.
That mean I deployed 48 mil and that is the mostly possible 100% non-gold-usage deploypoints.

2. So now lookin again on the TOP-1:

The 1.76 bil more deploy-points from TOP-1 means:

1x Main Carrier Ship give 32.000 depl. x 2,75 = 88.000 deploypoints
1x Gunner give 11.945 deply. x 2,75 = 32.849 deploypoints

1.76 bil deploy / 88.000 => 19.886 Main Carrier needed.
.......................................or......... .......................................
1.76 bil deploy / 32.849 => 53.578 Gunners needed.

3. Result:

So if there is no glitch or fake gold, the TOP-1 has invested already:

a) With Main-Carriers:
> 19.886 Gold only for deploys
> 735.782 Gold for Main Carrier Ships (37 Gold every ship).
= 755.668 Gold => (if Android) is prize every 1.500 Gold actually 46,40
= 23.375,33 - real money

b) With Gunners:
> 53.578 Gold only for deploys
= 53.578 Gold => (if Android) is prize every 1.500 Gold actually 46,40
= 1.657,34 - real money

So are there really peopley paying over 1.500 just for 1 FL?
Or is there a glitch that allow to deploy more without paying?

And on a side note. this is the reason that ',' shouldn't be used in numbers. Yes I can guess at what he means, but thats far removed from what he has said. Now maybe its a display issue but 1.657 isn't realy a lot of money ;)

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-19-2015, 07:11 AM
Yeah my Dewie friend, either that, or you're just dealing with the same mind set that will spend $800 on a hamburger covered with gold leaf, just so they can brag about eating an $800 hamburger covered with gold leaf - regardless of whether it tasted good or not.

Hello, mousie, my friend, we DEW know sumpin about shenanigans and hijinks, right?
Remember a very high official was found to have been in cahoots with a certain clan and was released after the FIT hit the SHAN.
Then there's the little green one who ain't just chasing Lucky Charms, and gets angry if someone finds one of his many HIDDEN in plain sight BUCKETS o' GOLD!!!!
Awww, its MAGICALLY delicious, doncha know how some defies the odds to get them super, snazzy powerful BOOBY prizes all the time.

redvenge99
04-19-2015, 07:15 AM
It is the internet everything is real RIGHT!

Tinker
04-19-2015, 07:22 AM
A truly insightful analysis of why GREE can limp along with defective upgrade after defective upgrade, glitch after glitch and colossal GREEup after colossal GREEup.

Stockholm syndrome?
OCD?

Any more suggestions why someone would spend serious coin to be Emperor of a pixel world?

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-19-2015, 07:23 AM
It is the internet everything is real RIGHT!

That is what THEY want YOU (US) to believe.

I do, I do, I do believe in fairies, I do, I do!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abL9dHtzjjE

redvenge99
04-19-2015, 07:36 AM
Sure wish I believed in fairies, unfortunately im all growed up.. tho I must say that is one big arse elephant in the room, wonder why no one can see it?

Danger Mouse
04-19-2015, 07:48 AM
Nah, sorry Dewie. While I love juicy conspiracies, it's just easier to believe in human nature and the pathological desire to publicly and unabashedly eat $800 ground beef. No magic, no sleight of hand, just pure ego and a certain detachment from reality. Occams' Razor my friend.

redvenge99
04-19-2015, 08:52 AM
Nah, sorry Dewie. While I love juicy conspiracies, it's just easier to believe in human nature and the pathological desire to publicly and unabashedly eat $800 ground beef. No magic, no sleight of hand, just pure ego and a certain detachment from reality. Occams' Razor my friend.

So you believe the top player is giving gree 100k+ a year? I no a lot of very wealthy ppl and they dont stay rich by giving there money away... can we say investor, dev or paid player... matter fact I was once invited to beta and offered 3k gold to do an event.. I honestly will never believe anyone is legitimatly spending that kind of coin on a phone app.. the amount of money mw war makes just doesnt support that kind of spending.

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-19-2015, 09:18 AM
So you believe the top player is giving gree 100k+ a year? I no a lot of very wealthy ppl and they dont stay rich by giving there money away... can we say investor, dev or paid player... matter fact I was once invited to beta and offered 3k gold to do an event.. I honestly will never believe anyone is legitimatly spending that kind of coin on a phone app.. the amount of money mw war makes just doesnt support that kind of spending.


Yes, YOU speak the TRUTH RED, much TRUTH.
Many BRIBES have been attempted, and those who have been approached KNOW the TRUTH.
Plus, watch the START of ANY event.
Note how quickly some scores RISE.......

captainfly
04-19-2015, 10:33 AM
So the summary is:
The TOP-Faction's and the TOP-Player are not real Factions of real Players who pay 100k of real money a year ?
And there are also player here, who know this cause theyself have in past got such "bonus" too?

Whoa, that's crazy and just a big cheating from GREE! I will going on deep research, if thats true then GREE is just criminal and should be pursued.
GREE, you know there is a law called: "false or misleading advertising"

You can read it here:
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/misleading-claims-advertising/false-or-misleading-claims
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/False+Advertising

If you reclam big units and good bonus, and they can't be recived from "real paying" player, without paying over 1600 real money than it is exactly this misleading advertising. Cause you make that all player have to pay more and more money, and by the way you give people free GOLD that they beat the prizes more and more up or maybe like written up, that's your own players or devs.

I hope for you, that is not true, otherwise I see already the big headline in the NY and many other newspapers.
By the way, does anybody know the real Faction-Forum and Pal of SUP? Or is that also a "non-real" Faction?

WBS
04-19-2015, 10:37 AM
That's been a theory for a long time. That sup is just gree employees being put out front to make whales try and catch up to he first place team. I'm. It sure there is any evidence for it though. But if it is true then it is quite an evil thing to do.

Ozymandias
04-19-2015, 12:48 PM
That's been a theory for a long time. That sup is just gree employees being put out front to make whales try and catch up to he first place team. I'm. It sure there is any evidence for it though. But if it is true then it is quite an evil thing to do.

Well there are lots of ex sup players floating around in other factions, are they plants too? Plus given gree's general demonstrated competence level, we we suggesting they can run a big conspiracy?

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-19-2015, 12:58 PM
Well there are lots of ex sup players floating around in other factions, are they plants too? Plus given gree's general demonstrated competence level, we we suggesting they can run a big conspiracy?

One word, ACTING.

A good ACTOR, much like a GOOD magician, or a POLITICIAN can make you believe whatever it is they're selling!!!!!

It could be disappearing elephants, sawing a woman in half, FREE healthcare, AMNESTY for border invaders, perhaps spending $2,000,000 a year on buying fake gold, WHATEVER they're peddling, PIXELS!!!

One more thought:
ALL are never in on any SCAM.
A good SCAM, a successful SCAM, depends on limiting access to all but a necessary few.
Most were (and remain CLUELESS) unaware of the SCAM, simply useful shills.
That's another classic sign of a well executed SCAM.

J-manKometh96
04-19-2015, 02:03 PM
So you believe the top player is giving gree 100k+ a year? I no a lot of very wealthy ppl and they dont stay rich by giving there money away... can we say investor, dev or paid player... matter fact I was once invited to beta and offered 3k gold to do an event.. I honestly will never believe anyone is legitimatly spending that kind of coin on a phone app.. the amount of money mw war makes just doesnt support that kind of spending.

There's more than a few people around here that would have you believe they do just that.

J-manKometh96
04-19-2015, 02:12 PM
So the summary is:
The TOP-Faction's and the TOP-Player are not real Factions of real Players who pay 100k of real money a year ?
And there are also player here, who know this cause theyself have in past got such "bonus" too?

Whoa, that's crazy and just a big cheating from GREE! I will going on deep research, if thats true then GREE is just criminal and should be pursued.
GREE, you know there is a law called: "false or misleading advertising"

You can read it here:
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/misleading-claims-advertising/false-or-misleading-claims
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/False+Advertising

If you reclam big units and good bonus, and they can't be recived from "real paying" player, without paying over 1600 real money than it is exactly this misleading advertising. Cause you make that all player have to pay more and more money, and by the way you give people free GOLD that they beat the prizes more and more up or maybe like written up, that's your own players or devs.

I hope for you, that is not true, otherwise I see already the big headline in the NY and many other newspapers.
By the way, does anybody know the real Faction-Forum and Pal of SUP? Or is that also a "non-real" Faction?
No false or misleading advertising. All GREE sells is fake gold. As lon as you get it when you hand over your money, it's all legit. What you then do with it is your choice and in no way a legal transaction. Even if it were, if you exchanges it for a health pack and you got said health pack, where were you cheated or wronged? Same goes for just about anything else you might exchange it for. Don't confuse being a sucker with being the victim of some sort of crime.

Speed ump
04-19-2015, 02:37 PM
Dewin nuttin, looks like you're dewin sum thin. You still trying to peddle those sour g****s? Mouse as far as anyone bragging, I didn't see a single sup come here and brag about it, just a few jealous types whinning. Someone is going to g to win first prize in any event, and I think sup has established that they intend to be it. Hey dew, how come no words I. The past when an OSW player achieved first in indy in an event, and that has happened a few times. There's one very nice gentleman there who does so from time to time. Would you care to explain to him and us, how his gold and money is all fake also. We are waiting in great anticipation of enlightenment.

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-19-2015, 02:40 PM
Dewin nuttin, looks like you're dewin sum thin. You still trying to peddle those sour g****s? Mouse as far as anyone bragging, I didn't see a single sup come here and brag about it, just a few jealous types whinning. Someone is going to g to win first prize in any event, and I think sup has established that they intend to be it. Hey dew, how come no words I. The past when an OSW player achieved first in indy in an event, and that has happened a few times. There's one very nice gentleman there who does so from time to time. Would you care to explain to him and us, how his gold and money is all fake also. We are waiting in great anticipation of enlightenment.

I don't care to explain anything to you. Have a nice life.

WBS
04-19-2015, 02:56 PM
Well there are lots of ex sup players floating around in other factions, are they plants too? Plus given gree's general demonstrated competence level, we we suggesting they can run a big conspiracy?

I get that ozymandias. I simply stated that the gree employees being in top team/s has been a rumor in the past. I also said there wasn't any evidence for it. But do I think gree is incompetent? Yes and no. No they can't run a game that is glitch free or even close to being glitch free. And yes they are competent enough to screw us over and get the ignorant whales to spend huge $$. The idea of having a lead faction for others trying to follow is actually a good idea. That being said I have no clue if there is any truth to it.

WBS
04-19-2015, 03:04 PM
Dewin nuttin, looks like you're dewin sum thin. You still trying to peddle those sour g****s? Mouse as far as anyone bragging, I didn't see a single sup come here and brag about it, just a few jealous types whinning. Someone is going to g to win first prize in any event, and I think sup has established that they intend to be it. Hey dew, how come no words I. The past when an OSW player achieved first in indy in an event, and that has happened a few times. There's one very nice gentleman there who does so from time to time. Would you care to explain to him and us, how his gold and money is all fake also. We are waiting in great anticipation of enlightenment.

Names such as "only sup wins" and "supu" are arrogant to say the least. I personally don't care as sup is no longer looked at as the team many want to beAt like old times, now they are looked at as fools that spend way to much on a broken product. Don't worry, you don't have to get high and mighty bro as that's my own opinion and I fully realize you can buy what you want with your $$. Good luck in future tapping Speed, hopefully you get the satisfaction out of it you are looking for.

Danger Mouse
04-19-2015, 05:30 PM
Well, I played for two years with a faction mate that now runs with SUP, and still chat. He spends for his gold, in fact we both spent about the same. I stopped, he kept going. coupled with careful manipulation of the bonus gold system using PayPal accounts etc to pool resources and maximise bonus gold on a rota system through players and events it's all legit money. so all conspiracy theories aren't worth the pixels they're written on.
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People spending hundreds of thousands on gree is no different to hundreds of thousands on food, cars, casinos, online gambling, clothes........ People that have it, spend it. As a percentage of wealth it's probably spent with the same amount of thought as you would give buying a cup of coffee.
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If you're not in their league it's because you're not in their league, not because they've been artificially put over you as part of a mega conspiracy.
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And given the way gree runs anything else, do you really think they could successfully run a conspiracy this big in the game without it blowing up in their face within the first couple of weeks???
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Pppfffffffffftttttttttt...........
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But if conspiracy is the only way you can get to grips with the fact that they spend more on this game than you earn, then by all means continue as a means of preserving your mental health.

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-19-2015, 05:36 PM
Well, I played for two years with a faction mate that now runs with SUP, and still chat. He spends for his gold, in fact we both spent about the same. I stopped, he kept going. coupled with careful manipulation of the bonus gold system using PayPal accounts etc to pool resources and maximise bonus gold on a rota system through players and events it's all legit money. so all conspiracy theories aren't worth the pixels they're written on.
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People spending hundreds of thousands on gree is no different to hundreds of thousands on food, cars, casinos, online gambling, clothes........ People that have it, spend it. As a percentage of wealth it's probably spent with the same amount of thought as you would give buying a cup of coffee.
-
If you're not in their league it's because you're not in their league, not because they've been artificially put over you as part of a mega conspiracy.
-
And given the way gree runs anything else, do you really think they could successfully run a conspiracy this big in the game without it blowing up in their face within the first couple of weeks???
-
Pppfffffffffftttttttttt...........
-
But if conspiracy is the only way you can get to grips with the fact that they spend more on this game than you earn, then by all means continue as a means of preserving your mental health.


One must be careful what one posts on this forum.
That said, think back many moons, and try to recall the mysterious disappearance of a certain person.
Ask around, many know why.
In days of old, some were very bold.

As far as a certain entity running a successful subterfuge, don't think for one instant that what people experience here happens by accident or serendipity.

One more caveat, all that DEW aren't in on the deal.

It only takes one NBA ref to receive the outcome one might wish.
One need not have 60 in his or her pocket to control the other 59, 58, or 55.

Danger Mouse
04-19-2015, 05:40 PM
One must be careful what one posts on this forum.
That said, think back many moons, and try to recall the mysterious disappearance of a certain person.
Ask around, many know why.
In days of old, some were very bold.

As far as a certain entity running a successful subterfuge, don't think for one instant that what people experience here happens by accident or serendipity.

Dude, you missed your calling. You should write for National Enquirer. Could you possibly be any more vague?

J1mcrane
04-20-2015, 12:15 AM
One must be careful what one posts on this forum.
That said, think back many moons, and try to recall the mysterious disappearance of a certain person.
Ask around, many know why.
In days of old, some were very bold.

As far as a certain entity running a successful subterfuge, don't think for one instant that what people experience here happens by accident or serendipity.

One more caveat, all that DEW aren't in on the deal.

It only takes one NBA ref to receive the outcome one might wish.
One need not have 60 in his or her pocket to control the other 59, 58, or 55.

Have you finally lost the plot??

Care to enlighten us with what the hell you're going on about?

Brown Out
04-20-2015, 02:25 AM
http://i.imgur.com/dDxIDBp.jpg (http://imgur.com/dDxIDBp)

crazeejay
04-20-2015, 03:37 AM
Dewin nuttin, looks like you're dewin sum thin. You still trying to peddle those sour g****s? Mouse as far as anyone bragging, I didn't see a single sup come here and brag about it, just a few jealous types whinning. Someone is going to g to win first prize in any event, and I think sup has established that they intend to be it. Hey dew, how come no words I. The past when an OSW player achieved first in indy in an event, and that has happened a few times. There's one very nice gentleman there who does so from time to time. Would you care to explain to him and us, how his gold and money is all fake also. We are waiting in great anticipation of enlightenment.

Awww looked who pops out of nowhere once again. It's the muppet master public relations guy. LOL

Big John
04-20-2015, 03:41 AM
I was wondering what happened to Speed, his arm must have been in traction with all that tapping.

crazeejay
04-20-2015, 03:41 AM
Well, I played for two years with a faction mate that now runs with SUP, and still chat. He spends for his gold, in fact we both spent about the same. I stopped, he kept going. coupled with careful manipulation of the bonus gold system using PayPal accounts etc to pool resources and maximise bonus gold on a rota system through players and events it's all legit money. so all conspiracy theories aren't worth the pixels they're written on.
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People spending hundreds of thousands on gree is no different to hundreds of thousands on food, cars, casinos, online gambling, clothes........ People that have it, spend it. As a percentage of wealth it's probably spent with the same amount of thought as you would give buying a cup of coffee.
-
If you're not in their league it's because you're not in their league, not because they've been artificially put over you as part of a mega conspiracy.
-
And given the way gree runs anything else, do you really think they could successfully run a conspiracy this big in the game without it blowing up in their face within the first couple of weeks???
-
Pppfffffffffftttttttttt...........
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But if conspiracy is the only way you can get to grips with the fact that they spend more on this game than you earn, then by all means continue as a means of preserving your mental health.

The only difference is if I spend a hundred grand on real stuff, in the end I have $100k worth of real stuff. $100k on pixels is worth exactly $0 when this game goes *poof* LOL

Danger Mouse
04-20-2015, 03:54 AM
The only difference is if I spend a hundred grand on real stuff, in the end I have $100k worth of real stuff. $100k on pixels is worth exactly $0 when this game goes *poof* LOL

I never said it was the smartest way to spend your chump change. Just that for some, it is chump change.

redvenge99
04-20-2015, 03:59 AM
One must be careful what one posts on this forum.
That said, think back many moons, and try to recall the mysterious disappearance of a certain person.
Ask around, many know why.
In days of old, some were very bold.

As far as a certain entity running a successful subterfuge, don't think for one instant that what people experience here happens by accident or serendipity.

One more caveat, all that DEW aren't in on the deal.

It only takes one NBA ref to receive the outcome one might wish.
One need not have 60 in his or her pocket to control the other 59, 58, or 55.

I remember this time when a certain person just went poof, but wait wasnt it 2 personalities that left at the same time!

Tinker
04-20-2015, 04:40 AM
blah blah blah

Speed why don't you have a fancy icon and colour like Bolt or WaffleKing or Relic?
Deep undercover perhaps?
Hmmmmmm

I Will Merc You
04-20-2015, 09:22 AM
What makes a greyhound run around a track during a race?

-The greyhounds are chasing a mechanical lure. The lure is a stuffed bone attached to a bar that travels around the track. The lure makes a squeaky noise as it circles the track and the greyhounds chase the lure by sight and by sound.

'Mechanical lure'.....dogs chasing after sight and sound......

....how might this relate to this Modern War race? I think it relates directly.

Remember....the lure is mechanical.

crazeejay
04-20-2015, 09:24 AM
What makes a greyhound run around a track during a race?

-The greyhounds are chasing a mechanical lure. The lure is a stuffed bone attached to a bar that travels around the track. The lure makes a squeaky noise as it circles the track and the greyhounds chase the lure by sight and by sound.

'Mechanical lure'.....dogs chasing after sight and sound......

....how might this relate to this Modern War race? I think it relates directly.

Remember....the lure is mechanical.

LOL that couldn't be more true!! :)

Naughty Toon
04-20-2015, 11:45 AM
I finished 2nd in FL not long ago, you didn't take into consideration that most big spenders get 50k gold+ as a monthly gold bonus

Tinker
04-20-2015, 12:02 PM
I finished 2nd in FL not long ago, you didn't take into consideration that most big spenders get 50k gold+ as a monthly gold bonus

How Naughty are you dollar wise per month?

Speed ump
04-20-2015, 12:34 PM
Mr dew, you don't want to explain, because you cannot. You have the same old song and dance you've been peddling for a few years now. It's pretty obvious no one bought it then, and they still don't now. I thought that some day you'd get over it, and yourself, but I was mistaken. It was a good thing for you that the mrs cut you off.

The Dutch Republic
04-20-2015, 01:29 PM
Mr dew, you don't want to explain, because you cannot. You have the same old song and dance you've been peddling for a few years now. It's pretty obvious no one bought it then, and they still don't now. I thought that some day you'd get over it, and yourself, but I was mistaken. It was a good thing for you that the mrs cut you off.

Talking about old songs...

Preacher Wolf
04-20-2015, 01:33 PM
i have heard rumors of gree giving certain players from a certain faction gold for getting other players to buy more gold. i don't have any idea if it is true or not but it would be smart of gree to give back to the leaders of factions that get players to spend a certain amount of money on this game to make mins.

I Will Merc You
04-20-2015, 01:34 PM
Speed ump,

1 cool point deducted for hitting a fellow man in the sac, on a gaming forum.

.......................... proceed.

Benasi
04-20-2015, 08:01 PM
Yeah my Dewie friend, either that, or you're just dealing with the same mind set that will spend $800 on a hamburger covered with gold leaf, just so they can brag about eating an $800 hamburger covered with gold leaf - regardless of whether it tasted good or not.

LMAO dam straight there mate, its all about the barging rights, well said

Pidgeot
04-20-2015, 08:06 PM
Yeah my Dewie friend, either that, or you're just dealing with the same mind set that will spend $800 on a hamburger covered with gold leaf, just so they can brag about eating an $800 hamburger covered with gold leaf - regardless of whether it tasted good or not.

The sad this was I watched a video of a person eating a 2000 dollar hamburger. Gold incrusted and everything.

Benasi
04-20-2015, 08:06 PM
You'd be surprised how far some of the MW community will go to get that no:1 spot, and how deep those pockets are with some of those players.

Lawyers
Doctors
politicians
daddy's boys with rich parents
and the list goes on.....

I know of a few that spend excessive amounts during certain events, I will not name them out of respect.

It's a hobbie/addiction just like any of you have out there like planes, cars, Lego, models.... only difference is that they have deeper pockets then the average Joe.

Speed ump
04-20-2015, 11:07 PM
Preacher that old rumor, started by mr dew, was never true. According to him I personally recieve kickbacks of gold from gree for this purpose. It's more as benasi stated, just a group of guys with deeper pockets than most and willing to spend it on their choice of entertainment. There's always people who are jealous of that and who critique that. If you want to spend your money on gold encrusted hamburgers, and it's what gives you enjoyment, not sure why anyone should want to degrade you for doing so. It might not be your cup of tea, but then those people arnt trying to force their way of play on anyone else, unless you're a team trying to take their spot from them, then as in any competitive endeavor, you'll need to make the time and money commitment to do so.

Speed ump
04-20-2015, 11:15 PM
Funny how mr dew goes silent in the face of truth, common sense and logic. That combination seems to have always diffused his preachinngs of mystical conspiracies, and vague innuendos. Haters love to hate the top teams in any game, I play a number these days. The story repeats itself over and over. Jealousy is alive an well in all the ones I've been a part of.

bam bam.
04-20-2015, 11:21 PM
Haters gotta hate and obsessives gotta spend.

bam bam.
04-20-2015, 11:23 PM
Speed ump you are right. If you want to fund a backwards company then you are well within your rights to do so. Dew, you are right to say ppl who spend massive (or even at all) on the crap that is sold as an entertainment service here are mad mad mad.

*i spent cash, a few grand over a couple years cause it was fun. Now, it is just not. Halloween the yr before last was my last spend

Danger Mouse
04-20-2015, 11:57 PM
Preacher that old rumor, started by mr dew, was never true. According to him I personally recieve kickbacks of gold from gree for this purpose. It's more as benasi stated, just a group of guys with deeper pockets than most and willing to spend it on their choice of entertainment. There's always people who are jealous of that and who critique that. If you want to spend your money on gold encrusted hamburgers, and it's what gives you enjoyment, not sure why anyone should want to degrade you for doing so. It might not be your cup of tea, but then those people arnt trying to force their way of play on anyone else, unless you're a team trying to take their spot from them, then as in any competitive endeavor, you'll need to make the time and money commitment to do so.

Exactly speedy. No need for tinfoil hats. Just disposable income measured on a far larger scale.

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-21-2015, 06:06 AM
Speed ump you are right. If you want to fund a backwards company then you are well within your rights to do so. Dew, you are right to say ppl who spend massive (or even at all) on the crap that is sold as an entertainment service here are mad mad mad.

*i spent cash, a few grand over a couple years cause it was fun. Now, it is just not. Halloween the yr before last was my last spend


I never said anyone spends, but I'm sure some DEW.
I don't care if people buy cow poop, none of my bitness.
I don't care if people CONvince others to spend, none of my bitness.
Funny how the spending issue always crops up when any mention of hijinks and shenanigans appears.
What I've said for months, there are those being incentivized to get people to spend.
There are those playing who are very close to those who create and develop.
Just because you see a thing, doesn't mean that is actually what you see.
Frankly, I no longer care what happens here.
I DEW, however want to see the implosion.
So, I linger like the stench of putrefying flesh.

Preacher Wolf
04-21-2015, 06:39 AM
Preacher that old rumor, started by mr dew, was never true. According to him I personally recieve kickbacks of gold from gree for this purpose. It's more as benasi stated, just a group of guys with deeper pockets than most and willing to spend it on their choice of entertainment. There's always people who are jealous of that and who critique that. If you want to spend your money on gold encrusted hamburgers, and it's what gives you enjoyment, not sure why anyone should want to degrade you for doing so. It might not be your cup of tea, but then those people arnt trying to force their way of play on anyone else, unless you're a team trying to take their spot from them, then as in any competitive endeavor, you'll need to make the time and money commitment to do so.


i figured it was nothing more than a rumor. i do think its something that gree should do. when factions buy a certain amount of gold they should get compensated. i am not one of those sup haters that think gree hands you guys anything. i can't stand the people on this forum that do nothing but run their mouths about the top 10. they all act like they should be getting the same bonuses as the people that pay for the bonuses, if they don't like what gree is doing with this game then they need to delete the game and find another game to go complain about.

robmurphy
04-21-2015, 06:43 AM
. i can't stand the people on this forum that do nothing but run their mouths about the top 10. they all act like they should be getting the same bonuses as the people that pay for the bonuses, if they don't like what gree is doing with this game then they need to delete the game and find another game to go complain about.

Amen...................................

Agent Orange
04-21-2015, 06:48 AM
I never said anyone spends, but I'm sure some DEW.
I don't care if people buy cow poop, none of my bitness.
I don't care if people CONvince others to spend, none of my bitness.
Funny how the spending issue always crops up when any mention of hijinks and shenanigans appears.
What I've said for months, there are those being incentivized to get people to spend.
There are those playing who are very close to those who create and develop.
Just because you see a thing, doesn't mean that is actually what you see.
Frankly, I no longer care what happens here.
I DEW, however want to see the implosion.
So, I linger like the stench of putrefying flesh.

Dew tell, Dew tell.

A long long time ago before gree I suspected something was a bit off. I'd quiz CCM about employees playing but every time was told, nope not happening.

Then shortly before the change in ownership this same person finally fesses up that indeed there are employees playing. Hmm now if I was an employee I'd be cranking up my account using the available tools. Maybe not so much that it would be too obvious but certainly enough to fulfill my agenda.....

But as you say I also don't really care at this point because I've had my fun and this is now such a bad financial investment.

It is still fun as a free player though there is obviously no hope of ever making it to a top faction but it sure is fun in the lower levels applying knowledge garnered from 3.5 years of playing.

Preacher Wolf
04-21-2015, 07:16 AM
But as you say I also don't really care at this point because I've had my fun and this is now such a bad financial investment.

It is still fun as a free player though there is obviously no hope of ever making it to a top faction but it sure is fun in the lower levels applying knowledge garnered from 3.5 years of playing.[/QUOTE]


I am not sure how most people think when they are spending money on this game but i sure as heck don't call this a financial investment. This game is nothing more than something for me to kill some time and have a good time with some great people i have had the prevlige to to meet while playing this game.

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-21-2015, 07:38 AM
Dew tell, Dew tell.

A long long time ago before gree I suspected something was a bit off. I'd quiz CCM about employees playing but every time was told, nope not happening.

Then shortly before the change in ownership this same person finally fesses up that indeed there are employees playing. Hmm now if I was an employee I'd be cranking up my account using the available tools. Maybe not so much that it would be too obvious but certainly enough to fulfill my agenda.....

But as you say I also don't really care at this point because I've had my fun and this is now such a bad financial investment.

It is still fun as a free player though there is obviously no hope of ever making it to a top faction but it sure is fun in the lower levels applying knowledge garnered from 3.5 years of playing.

Yes, the THIRD letter of the English alphabet has quite a significance, doesn't it, my old friend?
Let's SEE, hmmm, to some it means CHRIST, to others it means CASH, some might say CON, some use it as a noun as in CANADA (great country BTW), others might use it as some form of MONIKER or ACRONYM.
Yes sir, that THIRD letter seems very popular around these parts.

Now, the ONE you mention was very Clever to aCknowledge things without witnesses, nonetheless, admissions have been forthComing, my friend.

Well, nothing to worry about is it?

I mean, we DEW know the deal, yes we DEW!!!!

Benasi
04-21-2015, 09:30 AM
Dew tell, Dew tell.

A long long time ago before gree I suspected something was a bit off. I'd quiz CCM about employees playing but every time was told, nope not happening.

Then shortly before the change in ownership this same person finally fesses up that indeed there are employees playing. Hmm now if I was an employee I'd be cranking up my account using the available tools. Maybe not so much that it would be too obvious but certainly enough to fulfill my agenda.....

But as you say I also don't really care at this point because I've had my fun and this is now such a bad financial investment.

It is still fun as a free player though there is obviously no hope of ever making it to a top faction but it sure is fun in the lower levels applying knowledge garnered from 3.5 years of playing.

Well said....

WBS
04-21-2015, 12:18 PM
Preacher that old rumor, started by mr dew, was never true. According to him I personally recieve kickbacks of gold from gree for this purpose. It's more as benasi stated, just a group of guys with deeper pockets than most and willing to spend it on their choice of entertainment. There's always people who are jealous of that and who critique that. If you want to spend your money on gold encrusted hamburgers, and it's what gives you enjoyment, not sure why anyone should want to degrade you for doing so. It might not be your cup of tea, but then those people arnt trying to force their way of play on anyone else, unless you're a team trying to take their spot from them, then as in any competitive endeavor, you'll need to make the time and money commitment to do so.


I agree with your post. Just do not confuse those who think it's foolish to spend so much on a broken company for jealousy. Sometimes it may be jealousy. Sometimes people think it's downright stupidity, I personally fall on the second option. There is no reason for jealousy in a game that requires very little strategy.

Speed ump
04-21-2015, 12:22 PM
Orange I think you're aware that dew isn't refering to employees playing, but refering more specifically, as he has for the years since he was booted from sup, refering to sup, and myself supposedly receiving kickbacks from GREE for various diff reasons. As wolf mentioned, and we are all aware, there are no uses avaible for those that achieve certain purchase levels each month. They are based on individual purchase, and not team. Even though I have multiple games, each one is forced to qualify on its own. This is not what me dew is refering to though. He has attempted to insinuate something different. Despite denials that he dosnt care, it's obvious that he indeed does care, or why continue to post here long after he stopped playing, and why continue to attempt to sling mud. As noted here, haters gonna hate. As in the past I will continue to provide some balance to the arguments he presents.

ezmunie
04-21-2015, 01:13 PM
I don't understand the constant hoopla about any one team. I play for the enjoyment and competition. I never expect, nor do I want to be TOP 1 or Top 50. I don't want the added stress that goes along with pressure to be better than I am. I don't care how much someone spends, whether it goes to Gree or any other company, as that's their personal choice.

Time for folks to stop all the conspiracy theories. Who cares? I know I don't.

Speed ump
04-21-2015, 04:44 PM
Just the way it should be.

J-manKometh96
04-21-2015, 05:35 PM
In the last 6-12 months the only complaint against the spenders has been that they repeatedly reward poor behavior. No one cares about getting what the top teams have. They just want a game that works, with the same amount of errors, glitches, and screw ups as the competition. But because there is no incentive to fix what's broken, due to a small few having more ego and need to feel superior than common sense, GREE never fixes anything. Might they shut it all down if spenders stopped? Yes. But they are going to shut it down soon at this rate anyway.

WBS
04-21-2015, 06:12 PM
Well said ezmunie, no one cares about the top teams, they are in a spending world of their own and I have never tried to compete at that level of spending. I enjoy my top 200 gameplay with a great group of players. We don't need gold and we stay competitive at our level. The biggest frustration we have is glitches, gree making our accounts devalued, stat inflation, and too many events at once.

groovy shags
04-21-2015, 08:38 PM
Let them spend whatever they want to spend. No team competes with super united, the pirates, supU, or whatever their name is this cycle. They always have scores well over the 2nd place team anyways. Sometimes their score is more than the next five or ten teams combined. So it's quite obvious that the only ones who care is their own members. However many "real humans" make up the 60 accounts on the team. These guys have multiple accounts, so maybe it's just 15-20 actual players? Who knows. Same as the crate openings masters who get 500+ secret boxes opened. They just have to have what nobody else has! And it's always the same accounts at the top. Although I do wonder just how many taps it takes to get that many in 5 days, when I can only make it to 9 most events. lol so let them revel in each others coded accomplishments. Sending screenshots to each other, and FaceTime to pop the champagne after their successful undefeated cycle has ended. Only they care, nobody else. Too bad all that money can't fix some of the problems within the game itself.

At least it's keeping it going for now. Because without those players, there is no game. And without the game, I would lose my new favorite website, the modern war forums. Barely open the game now with so many useless events going on, but the forums is a sure fire entertainment site that never disappoints! Just finished reading FERR's manifesto a couple days ago. Truly a page turner that shows how far these guys will go to stay at number one! I sure hope the forums are still up for at least a few days after this game implodes on itself!

Loli-PoP
04-21-2015, 08:42 PM
...dew isn't refering to employees playing, but refering more specifically, as he has for the years since he was booted from sup, refering to sup, and myself supposedly receiving kickbacks from GREE...

so you DEW is a SUP ? How many sups are there and why so many? All over game is some kind of SUP but faction only fits 60, but is around like 500 of sups is meaning so many wanted to be number one at some point, spent buying lots of volts, then ran out of money and then you booted them and new ones come in like flys on that sticky sweet paper dangling? lol

I think it's just funny, got some time to kill so read this tread. I personally don't understand jealousy undertones too. I could aford per weekend probably 10-20 volts to buy and not cry about it, if we go clubing sometimes spend that much per night, but as some say isfor MY entertainment, why is your business? Is definitely not financial 'investment' - its a waste of money and is my money so i waste them how i want, if i buy cristal bottle and drink, next day i feel 'invested' in headache lol I simply choose to not spend too much on this as i started right when this epic boss was giving good drops, but then it stopped, so now i'm a bit confused, talking to few fun people in faction and looking back not buying now as too many errors in this game and very many unhappy players

J-manKometh96
04-22-2015, 02:05 AM
There are multiple SUP affiliated factions.

DEW was a SUP at some point in the distant past.

If the Cristal was flat, no fizz crap, would you continue to buy it each time? No, but people continually do it here and it truly is mind boggling. And since it is that money that is feeding Gree's lack of desire to fix anything, yes the masses have asked that the top curtail that spending so we all have a game to play that isn't riddled with crap and is once again fun. Nobody is jealous of what anyone else spends.

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-22-2015, 05:02 AM
DEW was never SUP.
DINGLEBERRY and DEW, began a two man crew.
A weasel snuck into the chicken coop.
The weasel stole and ate the eggs.
The rest is history.
PUN preceded SUP.
PUN somewhat good, SUP you decide. LOL

Speed ump
04-22-2015, 05:15 AM
Dingleberry was in sup, for a time. Yes I guess the weasal stole the eggs because the other chickens got caught hacking. And one got caught trying to eat the eggs to boot. Very canabalistic chicken. Good thing the weasal stole them, now they are still alive and well today.

Helios Von Elisar
04-22-2015, 05:50 AM
Let those who want to spend spend. Let those who don't save their cash. Let those who complain about those who spend leave the game and become accountants and republicans.

You can control your own life. Unless they are your kids you can't control others. Stop trying, you are fighting a losing battle and you look petty doing it. This is a game, it is supposed to be fun. If your not having fun, get a different game. If you think you got ripped off because you spent money on this game your wrong. Quit trying to spread your misery because you did something stupid. Best thing for you to do is quit.

Loli-PoP
04-22-2015, 08:30 AM
Let those who want to spend spend. Let those who don't save their cash. Let those who complain about those who spend leave the game and become accountants and republicans...

Not sure you understood your own remark about accountants and republicans here... If you spend beyond your means - you more likely a democrat, so you meant to say become that? lol I'm republican and spend recklessly sometimes, but guess what - I can afford it and not cry about it or try smearing others or try borrowing to spend recklessly - i earn my money, and when i stop earning to allow me to spend recklessly, i'll have to quit doing so or become a bum and prostitute to support continuo doing some of it.

Those who spend crazy amounts on volts here are not poor, and if they are, and then start pointing fingers at others, they are sore losers as they cannot acknowledge their own mistakes if it became addictive to spend, and try smear those who still spend, can afford to spend, and have fun in doing so. One weekend i was home sick and didn't go out nor party and bought 2-3 volts i think, i really enjoyed taping those names and seeing wins. I could have bought more, but decided my spare cash will be fun spending at mall next day too. And I did so next day, but I totally understand people who for example have no other hobbies, no friends, and have a lot of money and time - this game can be fun if you spend so much time in it, why you have to bash them?

Big John
04-22-2015, 08:34 AM
So whales have no hobbies and no friends, bit sad that.

Loli-PoP
04-22-2015, 08:42 AM
...If the Cristal was flat, no fizz crap, would you continue to buy it each time?... No, but people continually do it here and it truly is mind boggling. And since it is that money that is feeding Gree's lack of desire to fix anything, yes the masses have asked that the top curtail that spending so we all have a game to play that isn't riddled with crap and is once again fun. Nobody is jealous of what anyone else spends.

To be honest - it is exactly that - a flat a bit yucky fizz crap and overpriced on top... BUT it is fun to sit at vip sip it at concerts or lounges and see some jealous stares lol When night is late don't really care what you sipping it gives you buzz and next day headache that;s all... But regarding this game you forget it's different as gaming is an addiction too. When we hop on to Vegas, we see sooo many rich people there staring at cards and empty minds keep pulling new and new chips when they keep losing... You think they poor? Some maybe become poor, but because it's addiction. If you have self control, sit at blakjak table, set only $1000 and no more, win or lose, when done - get up and don't go for more, easier said than done? But are you going to go bashing casino for providing environment that you cannot win? Is your own fault i think. Oki, off to work, Vegas this weekend it is, I will miss war because will try to win against casino instead! lol Poker time this time! Come to Bellagio, join the party, free suites and Champagne! :cool:

Loli-PoP
04-22-2015, 08:43 AM
So whales have no hobbies and no friends, bit sad that. I didn't call anybody whales mister officer big Jon... I just suggested as in 'imagine if..' oki, no more time, ciao!

Speed ump
04-22-2015, 11:25 AM
John, you're letting your jealousy hang out for all to see. Don't bother to deny the obvious. You have no idea what people's lives might be like, nor should you or anyone else be trying to judge them for anything they chose to do with their time or money. Yet you do.

J-manKometh96
04-22-2015, 01:08 PM
Hump, you're letting your sense of superiority hang out for all to see. Don't bother to deny the obvious. You have no idea what people's lives might be like, nor should you or anyone else be trying to judge them for anything they chose to do with their time or money. Yet you do.

WBS
04-22-2015, 01:22 PM
John, you're letting your jealousy hang out for all to see. Don't bother to deny the obvious. You have no idea what people's lives might be like, nor should you or anyone else be trying to judge them for anything they chose to do with their time or money. Yet you do.

You again assume it's jealousy? Maybe it is or maybe he actually thinks it's stupid to spend so much on this game. I doubt that anyone is jealous of SUp as no one cares about them anymore Speed. They are a has been that still continues to be. You like top 1, that's good for you bro, there is very few that want that spot. No intent on being mean or offensive just stating the fact that no one talks about sup like they used to, it used to be people wanted the spot when the game was fun, now they are a laughingstock. It's not just sup, as many of top teams aren't help to high regards like they used to be, many just see how bad and broken the game has become and feel it is foolish to spend that much on this game. If top 1 is what makes you happy Speed then by all means keep it up. I'm happy you have a lifestyle that can afford it :) I'm not a democrat so wealth isn't a bad word.

Agent Orange
04-22-2015, 02:06 PM
You again assume it's jealousy? Maybe it is or maybe he actually thinks it's stupid to spend so much on this game. I doubt that anyone is jealous of SUp as no one cares about them anymore Speed. They are a has been that still continues to be. You like top 1, that's good for you bro, there is very few that want that spot. No intent on being mean or offensive just stating the fact that no one talks about sup like they used to, it used to be people wanted the spot when the game was fun, now they are a laughingstock. It's not just sup, as many of top teams aren't help to high regards like they used to be, many just see how bad and broken the game has become and feel it is foolish to spend that much on this game. If top 1 is what makes you happy Speed then by all means keep it up. I'm happy you have a lifestyle that can afford it :) I'm not a democrat so wealth isn't a bad word.

I think you summed it up quite well. Most of us don't care anymore. I suspect that at one time it might have been the dangling carrot that fired folks up to spend but now seems dreadfully illogical to pour money into.

Besides the real fun and real stratagy is playing the lower levels for free and using the knowledge gained from playing a long time to adjust a strategy that thwarts those whose ego gets the better of them. Lots of seasoned players hiding down there and that makes things fun and interesting. It also makes WD interesting again.

Much more satisfying then opening up the wallet and throwing good money away on something that may implode at any moment. I think another player said it best the other day, those of us with real wealth have it for a reason and that is not frittering it away on a bunch of fake pixels. jealous is hardly a word I would use these days, pity would be more appropriate....

But as others have rightly said what you guys do with your money is your business and I do thank you from the bottom of my heart for funding the gree servers and allowing me to play and test strategies for free. :)

DelAWOL
04-22-2015, 05:01 PM
A very interesting read, and of course Speed is right people are free to spend what they want on whatever they want, but as the game spirals ever downward the saying a fool and his money springs more and more to the fore.

But the strangest thing about this thread is the reemergence of Gree's favourite little flag bearer, Mr Ump, he only seems to appear when the crowd are getting restless, boycotts touted or money spending discouraged along him comes in his suit of Gree gold coloured army encouraging people to spend spend spend and to convince us all the game isn't dying but really is worth your hard earned cash.

Mr Ump if you're not in the pay of Gree then you should certainly ask to go on the payroll, you do more for the Gree cause then any mod CM or Dev in the company

WBS
04-22-2015, 06:40 PM
I think you summed it up quite well. Most of us don't care anymore. I suspect that at one time it might have been the dangling carrot that fired folks up to spend but now seems dreadfully illogical to pour money into.

Besides the real fun and real stratagy is playing the lower levels for free and using the knowledge gained from playing a long time to adjust a strategy that thwarts those whose ego gets the better of them. Lots of seasoned players hiding down there and that makes things fun and interesting. It also makes WD interesting again.

Much more satisfying then opening up the wallet and throwing good money away on something that may implode at any moment. I think another player said it best the other day, those of us with real wealth have it for a reason and that is not frittering it away on a bunch of fake pixels. jealous is hardly a word I would use these days, pity would be more appropriate....

But as others have rightly said what you guys do with your money is your business and I do thank you from the bottom of my heart for funding the gree servers and allowing me to play and test strategies for free. :)

Agreed AO. Last WD we came in 54th without one ounce of gold spent. That took us 2 cycles of going Health pack free in WD and saving HP gained from WD and RB and dropping to top 500 from top 200. It was not fun to hold off for 2 cycles but in the end it was well worth the patience. What made it much better for us was we didn't have to spend a dime to gree and we had a blast doing it.

Preacher Wolf
04-22-2015, 06:40 PM
I love that some of you guys say that you don't care yet you guys are the ones that keep running your mouths on the forums. If you guys that don't care about the game and the people that spend money on this game would shut your mouths then this forum would not have so many stupid post and the mods would probably do more to help.

J-manKometh96
04-22-2015, 06:57 PM
I don't think anyone ever said they didn't care. Quite the contrary in most cases. But some know when to turn around and distance themselves for their own sake. It doesn't mean they no longer care though. We are not what keeps the mods and managers busy around here. They aren't dealing with issues we create.

tigerlion
04-22-2015, 07:00 PM
I love that some of you guys say that you don't care yet you guys are the ones that keep running your mouths on the forums. If you guys that don't care about the game and the people that spend money on this game would shut your mouths then this forum would not have so many stupid post and the mods would probably do more to help.

Lol!!! You really think so? Keep dreaming my friend. Even if all the posts were mostly positive ones, Gree would not care one bit trying to fix this game. This game has run his course a long time ago and they only wait for the top factions to be fed up also and stop spending to shut down this game. In the meantime, they're laughing all the way to the bank at your foolish spending. You're all beeing played by Gree and don't even realize it.

NO_BS
04-22-2015, 07:35 PM
I think you summed it up quite well. Most of us don't care anymore. I suspect that at one time it might have been the dangling carrot that fired folks up to spend but now seems dreadfully illogical to pour money into.

Besides the real fun and real stratagy is playing the lower levels for free and using the knowledge gained from playing a long time to adjust a strategy that thwarts those whose ego gets the better of them. Lots of seasoned players hiding down there and that makes things fun and interesting. It also makes WD interesting again.

Much more satisfying then opening up the wallet and throwing good money away on something that may implode at any moment. I think another player said it best the other day, those of us with real wealth have it for a reason and that is not frittering it away on a bunch of fake pixels. jealous is hardly a word I would use these days, pity would be more appropriate....

But as others have rightly said what you guys do with your money is your business and I do thank you from the bottom of my heart for funding the gree servers and allowing me to play and test strategies for free. :)

AO, you got the pulse right in most aspects at least from my viewpoint. There is a certain thrill where one can beat frequently in WD at mid levels teams who are stronger or one account faction who stats are higher with totally gold free (I don't even have access to free gold lol) purely by strategy. While it had been stimulating for the past year, the fun have left this game. Mindless tapping is not for me. I am also starting to find dark (no new bldg & repairs) or nuked bases of low/mid level players with above billion in stats which is a new phenomenon to me. And in WD, a high proportion of 1-account factions or teams like mine run by single player with multiple devises. The fun have left not because it is still easy to win in WD, but when the only appeal left is to admire some of the good artwork in the game. That to me is my problem.

Preacher Wolf
04-22-2015, 07:52 PM
Lol!!! You really think so? Keep dreaming my friend. Even if all the posts were mostly positive ones, Gree would not care one bit trying to fix this game. This game has run his course a long time ago and they only wait for the top factions to be fed up also and stop spending to shut down this game. In the meantime, they're laughing all the way to the bank at your foolish spending. You're all beeing played by Gree and don't even realize it.


I never said gree would fix the game I said the mods might actually help more. If you were a mod would you try and help after reading the way alot of these people post?

tigerlion
04-22-2015, 07:59 PM
I never said gree would fix the game I said the mods might actually help more. If you were a mod would you try and help after reading the way alot of these people post?

How could the Mods help more? They can't do anything more than what they're doing now, not really their fault. They can only pass on what they're been told, that is, lots of crap and lies from Gree managers/devs. It's doomed whatever you put it.

Danger Mouse
04-23-2015, 12:57 AM
I don't think anyone begrudges the spenders spending their money....... Your money, burn it for all I care.
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What gets people scratching their heads is why keep throwing Porsche prices at a beat up VW??, and continuously rewarding the mechanic for breaking more parts on top of that?

Preacher Wolf
04-23-2015, 04:33 AM
How could the Mods help more? They can't do anything more than what they're doing now, not really their fault. They can only pass on what they're been told, that is, lots of crap and lies from Gree managers/devs. It's doomed whatever you put it.


The mods could be helping out a lot more in here but as the said in another thread they allow us to find things out on our own. On of the problems with this forum is when the mods do try and help you get the same old people on here running their mouths to them. And its the same old people that run their mouths to speed and other that spend money to be in the top 10. If people have nothing but complaints about this game then delete the game and move on. It would do everyone a favor if they just went away.

Big John
04-23-2015, 04:40 AM
Why don't you leave the forum Mr Wolf if people are upsetting you so much or stop reading their posts.

Agent Orange
04-23-2015, 05:08 AM
The mods could be helping out a lot more in here but as the said in another thread they allow us to find things out on our own. On of the problems with this forum is when the mods do try and help you get the same old people on here running their mouths to them. And its the same old people that run their mouths to speed and other that spend money to be in the top 10. If people have nothing but complaints about this game then delete the game and move on. It would do everyone a favor if they just went away.

You really don't get it do you.

If people did not care they wouldn't say boo and just leave like so many have. But the thing is people complained though I would say the better term is pointed out the mistakes that gree has made in terms of quality control, events and game play. As they continue to be ignored they get more frustrated and in some cases this turns to anger and rightly so.

My personal take on the top faction is that any further spending on this game at this point is a terrible investment. If there was a glimmer of improvement then it might make sense but the general feeling the company is giving off is that they don't really care. I liked the game, invested a lot of time and for me a fairly decent amount of money in the beginning but the sensible side kicks in and gives my head a shake.

Many of my friends have left, many more considering it none really would have if things had not degenerated to this point. If everyone stopped pointing out the mistakes gree made imagine how much whorse things would get since gree would be getting zero feedback and would just steam blindly ahead into the swarm of icebergs.... So your final comment is very shortsighted.

Agent Orange
04-23-2015, 05:13 AM
Why don't you leave the forum Mr Wolf if people are upsetting you so much or stop reading their posts.

Maybe because it is one of bumps 'extra' forum accounts.....

Preacher Wolf
04-23-2015, 05:18 AM
You really don't get it do you.

If people did not care they wouldn't say boo and just leave like so many have. But the thing is people complained though I would say the better term is pointed out the mistakes that gree has made in terms of quality control, events and game play. As they continue to be ignored they get more frustrated and in some cases this turns to anger and rightly so.

My personal take on the top faction is that any further spending on this game at this point is a terrible investment. If there was a glimmer of improvement then it might make sense but the general feeling the company is giving off is that they don't really care. I liked the game, invested a lot of time and for me a fairly decent amount of money in the beginning but the sensible side kicks in and gives my head a shake.

Many of my friends have left, many more considering it none really would have if things had not degenerated to this point. If everyone stopped pointing out the mistakes gree made imagine how much whorse things would get since gree would be getting zero feedback and would just steam blindly ahead into the swarm of icebergs.... So your final comment is very shortsighted.


You really don't get it do you


There is a difference between pointing out the problems and running your mouth just so people can read your post. And if you call this game a investment then you are as dumb as gree. If your friends are leaving or have already left then do us all a favor and leave the game and the forums.

Preacher Wolf
04-23-2015, 05:22 AM
Why don't you leave the forum Mr Wolf if people are upsetting you so much or stop reading their posts.

So i should leave because i don't cry about this game like a lot of you guys do.

Preacher Wolf
04-23-2015, 05:24 AM
Maybe because it is one of bumps 'extra' forum accounts.....

This is not one of speeds accounts. I am not in sup. I have been recruited by sup and almost joined them at one point but i decided to stay with the faction i am in.

Agent Orange
04-23-2015, 05:25 AM
You really don't get it do you


There is a difference between pointing out the problems and running your mouth just so people can read your post. And if you call this game a investment then you are as dumb as gree. If your friends are leaving or have already left then do us all a favor and leave the game and the forums.

Yup bump you really don't get it. Pity.

Preacher Wolf
04-23-2015, 05:37 AM
This is not bump but what don't i get. That this forum is the only thing in life that you think that you have that makes you relevant. Its sad but i guess if thats all you have i understand why you need to post so much.

Agent Orange
04-23-2015, 05:55 AM
This is not bump but what don't i get. That this forum is the only thing in life that you think that you have that makes you relevant. Its sad but i guess if thats all you have i understand why you need to post so much.

I dunno, if it walks like a bump, talks like a bump and squeals like a bump then it must be a .....

Preacher Wolf
04-23-2015, 06:17 AM
I dunno, if it walks like a bump, talks like a bump and squeals like a bump then it must be a .....


It doesn't matter who you think i am. You are still the person who lives to play a game that all you can do is complain about in the forums to give yourself some kind of worth in life. It sucks to be you but i guess you have to do what you have to do.

Tinker
04-23-2015, 06:51 AM
It doesn't matter who you think i am. You are still the person who lives to play a game that all you can do is complain about in the forums to give yourself some kind of worth in life. It sucks to be you but i guess you have to do what you have to do.

For a guy who pretends to not like whining you sure do a lot of it. Are you sure your not the bumpster? Check the mirror.

tigerlion
04-23-2015, 07:14 AM
For a guy who pretends to not like whining you sure do a lot of it. Are you sure your not the bumpster? Check the mirror.

Preacher Wolf, lol! You're 'preaching' in the desert, lol! Noboby is listening to you, except your big spender friends who, like you, are afraid that what they all put in this game so far, will be gone very soon. Like I said before, unless there is a major change of mentality by Gree managers soon ( that I don't see, only getting worst by the day) game is doomed. Good luck in your dreamland, that things will change if all were positive when almost all in this game is riddle with glitches, events not well designed, etc.

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-23-2015, 07:56 AM
There is great wisdom being dispensed in this thread by some very smart people. I commend you all.

Preacher Wolf
04-23-2015, 08:07 AM
Preacher Wolf, lol! You're 'preaching' in the desert, lol! Noboby is listening to you, except your big spender friends who, like you, are afraid that what they all put in this game so far, will be gone very soon. Like I said before, unless there is a major change of mentality by Gree managers soon ( that I don't see, only getting worst by the day) game is doomed. Good luck in your dreamland, that things will change if all were positive when almost all in this game is riddle with glitches, events not well designed, etc.

The big spenders are not the ones that keep talking about this game closing down. I am sure the big spenders will be ok when this game ends. We have a life outside of this game and forum which is more than most of you guys can say. The real question is what will you guys do when the game ends? I am sure you guys will start a forum to talk about how bad gree screwed you guys over so that you and all your whining friends can make each other feel like you guys actually have something important to say.

MENTALLY INCOMPETENT
04-23-2015, 08:48 AM
Big spenders, hehehe, yeah, right. LOL

I Will Merc You
04-23-2015, 09:10 AM
If only we were all 'spending' the same currency.

'Spending' and 'tapping' are not the same thing.

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-23-2015, 09:12 AM
Big spenders, hehehe, yeah, right. LOL


MI, how U been, bro?

truthteller
04-23-2015, 09:14 AM
It doesn't matter who you think i am. You are still the person who lives to play a game that all you can do is complain about in the forums to give yourself some kind of worth in life. It sucks to be you but i guess you have to do what you have to do.

AO has been retire from working life for over a year now, so yes he has lots of free time (at his age) to spend it in the games and forums, specially during the cold days where he lives

so, yes Bump, he lives to play and have fun as he sees fit since does not need to work like the rest :rolleyes:

truthteller
04-23-2015, 09:16 AM
The big spenders are not the ones that keep talking about this game closing down. I am sure the big spenders will be ok when this game ends. We have a life outside of this game and forum which is more than most of you guys can say. The real question is what will you guys do when the game ends? I am sure you guys will start a forum to talk about how bad gree screwed you guys over so that you and all your whining friends can make each other feel like you guys actually have something important to say.

Well Bump, when MW ends (which probably will be sooner than expected) every one will move on to Boom Beach, Clash of clans and Dominations...................well many are already moving and others have already moved on:rolleyes:

Tinker
04-23-2015, 09:23 AM
The big spenders are not the ones that keep talking about this game closing down. I am sure the big spenders will be ok when this game ends. We have a life outside of this game and forum which is more than most of you guys can say. (CUT blah blah blah)

Anybody spending big with real money has no life outside of the pixel world. This is their identity and their purchased self worth is in jeopardy. That is why Preacher is so afraid of the doom and gloom talk. He will be nothing again when the pixels fade.

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-23-2015, 09:27 AM
Anybody spending big with real money has no life outside of the pixel world. This is their identity and their purchased self worth is in jeopardy. That is why Preacher is so afraid of the doom and gloom talk. He will be nothing again when the pixels fade.

Jackpot, ding, ding, ding....

truthteller
04-23-2015, 09:42 AM
Anybody spending big with real money has no life outside of the pixel world. This is their identity and their purchased self worth is in jeopardy. That is why Preacher is so afraid of the doom and gloom talk. He will be nothing again when the pixels fade.

I think you are a bit wrong.

I believe that the big spenders do so in order to achieve accomplishments that otherwise cannot do in real life:rolleyes:

Tinker
04-23-2015, 09:56 AM
I think you are a bit wrong.

I believe that the big spenders do so in order to achieve accomplishments that otherwise cannot do in real life:rolleyes:

I just love the sound of the crack of the bat and watching the ball soar over the fence.

Preacher Wolf
04-23-2015, 10:07 AM
Anybody spending big with real money has no life outside of the pixel world. This is their identity and their purchased self worth is in jeopardy. That is why Preacher is so afraid of the doom and gloom talk. He will be nothing again when the pixels fade.


So a person that spends big money to have a big account has no life outside of the game. Thats funny because i spend money on this game and i finish events a lot faster and i don't have to open up the game very often. If this game ends this week then i am ok with it. Every time i spend money on this game i understand that it is nothing more than a game. You dumb people keep calling it a investment. Maybe thats why you are so mad at this flawed game because you actually thought that you were going to be able to get your money back out of it.

J-manKometh96
04-23-2015, 10:13 AM
I can say with near certainty that preacher is not bumpity humpity dumpity sump-pump. The grammar and spelling is far to good.

legalious
04-23-2015, 10:17 AM
Fellow gamers are entitled to spend their money in-game at their own discretion.

Please refrain from attacking other members/players.

Bolt
04-23-2015, 10:18 AM
Please stop the personal attacks or we will be forced to lock this thread.

Tinker
04-23-2015, 11:01 AM
Fellow gamers are entitled to spend their money in-game at their own discretion.

Please refrain from attacking other members/players.

Fellow gamers can indeed can spend their money however they choose. The criticism of profligate gold spenders by moderate gold spenders and moderate gold spenders that have become free players is because the failure of those profligate gold spenders to exercise discretion is partly the cause of this games problems. Gree regularly releases updates, new events and fixes that are defective. One must assume that no pretesting is done of these game changes because Gree knows that failure has no consequence.

I am glad that Bolt and Legalious are reading this thread with dismay. Realize that the anger generated by continuous disrespect for your customer base is accumulative. It will eventually reach a tipping point. The point where recovery is not possible. The question for Bolt and Legalious is: Where on that continuum are you and perhaps does Gree give a hoot?

Preacher Wolf
04-23-2015, 11:06 AM
I can say with near certainty that preacher is not bumpity humpity dumpity sump-pump. The grammar and spelling is far to good.


Thank you. Speed is a much better player than i am. I have nothing to do with sup. I am friends with some of them and trade bp with some of them but that is it. I am happy being in the top 10 playing with with a group of guys that i have played with for a long time.

J-manKometh96
04-23-2015, 11:52 AM
I fail to see what where any personal attacks were made. I just see a disagreement of general style of gameplay.

Speed ump
04-23-2015, 12:34 PM
I have heard a few supposedly who are DEWin NUTTIN are indeed actually DEWin SUMTIN. seems soomeone figured out how to make two leaders in one faction, and also how to move players in and out of a faction multiple times over during WD. Amoung a few other Intresting SUMTINs. Seems some old habits die hard.

tigerlion
04-23-2015, 02:57 PM
Anybody spending big with real money has no life outside of the pixel world. This is their identity and their purchased self worth is in jeopardy. That is why Preacher is so afraid of the doom and gloom talk. He will be nothing again when the pixels fade.

Well said man

redvenge99
04-23-2015, 03:04 PM
Fellow gamers are entitled to spend their money in-game at their own discretion.

Please refrain from attacking other members/players.

whats your in game name lvl and stats if you wouldnt mind.

Speed ump
04-23-2015, 03:07 PM
Tinker your jealousy is showing. Most of the spenders I know in this game have quite a bit going in in their lives. They are generally successful in real life, and very good at juggling many diff things at once. Even free players have to put a lot of time, and actually more time then the spenders do. I know I use gold to get through ltqs etc just so I don't have to spend time on them. I'd say your thinking is back wards, you prob spend more time on the game than I do. So who has more of a life? I think that might just be me

Preacher Wolf
04-23-2015, 03:24 PM
Tinker your jealousy is showing. Most of the spenders I know in this game have quite a bit going in in their lives. They are generally successful in real life, and very good at juggling many diff things at once. Even free players have to put a lot of time, and actually more time then the spenders do. I know I use gold to get through ltqs etc just so I don't have to spend time on them. I'd say your thinking is back wards, you prob spend more time on the game than I do. So who has more of a life? I think that might just be me


exactly right. One of the reasons i buy as much gold as i do is so that i don't have to spend as much time on the game as others. One of the reasons i am happy with being in a top ten is because we are all like minded when it comes to this game. We would rather finish events sooner than later.

Speed ump
04-23-2015, 03:33 PM
The non like minded ones prefer to think that we do it to say we are some sort of bog deal. The thung is, I don't see the spenders saying that they think they're something special, just the haters saying it. Some people actually like a little competition, I know I'm one of them. If I could do it for free, I would.

DieselPowered
04-23-2015, 04:04 PM
So i have a question... if many of the people that buy gold to speed through events so they dont have to spend as much time in the game then why have i heard many times from some of these spenders that the events need to be more difficult?

JB5
04-23-2015, 04:06 PM
Haters gonna hate. Kinda surprised this argument is still going. I spend a little when I want, sometimes I spend a little more than a little. My choice, just like everyone else. To those that have played long enough, we play at the level we want. I've been in top 1000 all the way up to top 25. Loved every bit of it, but also found my comfort zone between 150-200. Keeps you away from most of the slackers, yet allows you the option of free play. I say don't worry about what you can't control and have fun. This isn't important enough to get upset over. :cool:

Speed ump
04-23-2015, 04:34 PM
Couldn't answer that questions diesel, I havnt heard anyone mention it in sup. Some players of course use their regen even here, and I have reduced the types of events I even play to a great extent. I play the major team events, but pretty much ignore anything that's indy related. Don't feel the need for having the highest stats like I once used to. Just need enough to be able to compete, and help with team events.

WBS
04-23-2015, 07:04 PM
Fellow gamers are entitled to spend their money in-game at their own discretion.

Please refrain from attacking other members/players.

Legalious I don't think anyone disagrees with how people spend there money. People are just really starting to realize how foolish the thought of spending money on modern war in its current state really is. That is not anyone's fault but gree's.

groovy shags
04-23-2015, 07:30 PM
Seriously Spud Lump? You only use gold to spend LESS time on the game so you can enjoy more of your incredible life? So please tell me how you guys use gold to instantly score millions and billions of points during WDE and Frontline! In order to score all those points, you guys sit and tap ALL weekend long with multiple accounts! Just admit that you are ALL addicted to being on top. And sadly, your members are the only ones who even care! Maybe you guys can get a segment on sportcenter...or perhaps the game show network to boost your world wide fame and popularity! Lmao

Speed ump
04-23-2015, 08:13 PM
Shaggy buddy, you mad bro? No, just jealous. I can do over 600mil in one battle in frontline, the most I ever did was about 3 billion, so that's five hours over the whole frontline. Most times I do less than a billion. So an hour or two tops of tapping. Sorry to blow your theory.

Preacher Wolf
04-23-2015, 08:30 PM
Seriously Spud Lump? You only use gold to spend LESS time on the game so you can enjoy more of your incredible life? So please tell me how you guys use gold to instantly score millions and billions of points during WDE and Frontline! In order to score all those points, you guys sit and tap ALL weekend long with multiple accounts! Just admit that you are ALL addicted to being on top. And sadly, your members are the only ones who even care! Maybe you guys can get a segment on sportcenter...or perhaps the game show network to boost your world wide fame and popularity! Lmao


What the heck is wrong with you and the rest of your nut hugging friends? Who cares how he spends his gold and how much he taps on the weekends. You guys act like he and others that spend money on this game is trying to be a big important person in this world but the truth is that you guys bring more attention to the big spenders than anyone else. You guys say that top players have no life because we spend all of our time playing modern war but yet you guys are the ones in the forums talking about modern war all day long. You keep saying that you don't care how people that spend their money but yet you attack anyone that spends money on this game. You and your nut hugging ego stroking friends need to be on some serious medications and need to go find some companionship other than each others right and left hands and get a life.

J-manKometh96
04-24-2015, 01:23 AM
No hump, you pretty much proved shaggys point. 5 hours vs. the hour or two everyone else puts in on FL. BTW, you left out WD, which is what he was primarily asking about.

Easy there preacher, no need to get all worked up just because the comments are hitting closer and closer to home.

Preacher Wolf
04-24-2015, 04:23 AM
Not one thing you have said has hit home. At that I see is people that are jealous because they can't do what they want on this game. You guys are the same people that would run your mouth about all the bosses at work because you think they cheated or got handed the position the higher ups are in. That's all you guys do is complain because the system is not kissing your butts. One day you guys will learn that earning something that you want is far better than having someone just hand it to you.

Speed ump
04-24-2015, 04:56 AM
So true preacher, all of your comments. The sad truth is haters will always be haters truth really has no bearing in their way of thinking. They're the ones who have cried in here about not being able to compete at the level of the top teams and complete certain events. You noticed how quiet mr dew has gotten with just a few voices of reason, common sense, and truth. That tends to dispel their notions of conspiracies, vaugeness, me outright untruths. Their banter withers and dies in the hash light of reality, no more shadows, smoke, and mirrors. There's enough real issues with the game that truly concerned players have brought up, that should get attention, rather then the sour g****s that these ones keep presenting. Guess they feel they need to have someone to blame all their woes in the world on, so blame the haves for their have not. ( of course many other claim to have, just chose not to spend it on a broken game. I suggesif they hate the game as much as they seem to profess, that I would quit. What makes them stay I wonder.)

J-manKometh96
04-24-2015, 05:07 AM
You reply in the wrong thread or something there? There isn't anyone talking anything about not being able to get top prizes, let alone for cheap or free, so quit trying to steer this thread off topic to pull attention away from yourself.

Speed ump
04-24-2015, 05:09 AM
Juan, free players, and low spenders do spend more time the game. I know this as I have many friends who have reduced their spending, or just never been spenders. I have games in some of those teams, though they know I do my numbers in short spurts by using gold. In between battles with my bigger games. As far as wd goes, I thought most reasonably intelligent people could extrapolate what's do in fl to wd. I'm a quick notification away if really needed for a big battle, but otherwise do my numbers in short time. I have had wd that I was done after the first few hours, and had well over a mil points. There have been are times that I have done very big numbers, and yes, I did spend more time then. It's my time to spend, as is yours. Or are we now having some sort of contest to see who spends how much time on the game. I bet I'd win that one for least time of so. Otherwise if you really are wanting compare quality of life outside of the game ( why are you so concerned about other people anyway) and have some way to impartially judge that, I can do that too. Personally I'd say worry about yourself, your life, and what you like to wth it, not what others do. It just makes you guys sound bitter and as if might be too fixated too have a life beyond this yourselves. It really does.

Big John
04-24-2015, 05:21 AM
This thread is pure gold, pardon the pun.

Agent Orange
04-24-2015, 06:06 AM
Seriously Spud Lump? You only use gold to spend LESS time on the game so you can enjoy more of your incredible life? So please tell me how you guys use gold to instantly score millions and billions of points during WDE and Frontline! In order to score all those points, you guys sit and tap ALL weekend long with multiple accounts! Just admit that you are ALL addicted to being on top. And sadly, your members are the only ones who even care! Maybe you guys can get a segment on sportcenter...or perhaps the game show network to boost your world wide fame and popularity! Lmao

Seems rather inconsistant doesn't.

But this inconsistancy does bring up an interesting question. Dew WD points suddenly and inexplicably take a huge jump upwards at a certain point?

They don't from what I see. What I did see was that when I took a very high stat say L30 player and tapped a weaker L250 player the most points I ever got were around 500, even with double and triple strikes that would mean 1,500. So is theresome other 'hidden' multiplier that comes into play?

So then as you surmise to gather a very high amount of WD points in a battle would require almost non stop tapping from a large number of faction members which rather runs against their other comment.

As for the J word, really, that's the best that you guy(s) can come up with. Not even close, as I said, if real money is being pumped into this loosing proposition hey that's your business and more power to you because it means I can play, test and experiment for free. But the logical side of me takes over and really has to question if someone's ego is so daftly inflated that there is such an overwhealming need to spend that much to achieve so little?

Were it me, I would have cut a deal with the game developer, something along the line of a sponsorship so that my crew got 'extra' help in order to stimulate non sponsored players to spend to try and catch up. In fact we do know that there have been a number of shill players back in the early days doing exactly this but they were employee players of the previous owners.

The double edge of this sword is that your sponsored team becomes all too dominant and therefore the initial plan of driving up spending starts heading in the opposite direction because the real spending players start to realize that there is something odd taking place and they stop spending. Granted poor quality of the app itself can have just as damaging a result... But no matter how you slice it the end result is not desireable.

Which begs the logical question, what purpose did MM serve? Was this actually a clever gree move to level the playing field? I can't help but wonder if that was actually the case but when the sponsored team figured it out they forced the company to shut it down lest they expose their dirty little secret.... And why it has not comeback even though the rest of the customer base keeps asking for it. For good reason too, because my move would be to start a faction of new players at low level and high stats built solely on units farmed from RB.

Then I would figure out what the optimum number of players was to allow for a decent 24/7 showing and also to avoid winding up being matched with whale factions. And have at it. It certainly is possible to do this, for the past 6 WDs I have been experimenting with 2 factions made up of only my LLPs. One with my older L90 to L280 players but the other with L5 to L50 players. I found I could score more points with the team with the lower level players given the equivalent number of battles and therefore it would seem logical that a well constructed team could mathmatically better a team of high level players unless of course there is some 'special' factor that wasn't accounted for. Perhaps those triple strikes, though do they actually work? I get a lot of doubles lately but never any triples..

So back to the J word, really. I have far more fun playing for free in the other end of the pond where logical analysis and strategy are used instead of just a bunch of 'cash' which ultimately proves nothing...

Preacher Wolf
04-24-2015, 06:45 AM
Agent Orange with you of your conspiracy theory talk don't you think your time would be better spent on proving the the US government was the ones who took out the twin towers instead of terrorist. You guys keep saying how the big spenders have no life outside of modern war and yet you guys over look Agent Orange. You say you are not jealous and if you are not jealous thats great, but when you spend a lot of your time going after people that has something that you don't have it makes you look Jealous.

Preacher Wolf
04-24-2015, 06:55 AM
Agent Orange i just read another thread and i was really impressed with you in that thread. You actually helped another person without running your mouth one time. Just think about how great of a help you could be to the mw community if you actually focused on helping people instead of all this other bull crap you put out in some of the other threads.

Ajk
04-24-2015, 07:43 AM
Agent Orange i just read another thread and i was really impressed with you in that thread. You actually helped another person without running your mouth one time. Just think about how great of a help you could be to the mw community if you actually focused on helping people instead of all this other bull crap you put out in some of the other threads.
He's done more of that than you could ever imagine. He is actually one of the more respected longtime members here for his input on the game.

I also wonder just how the scores seem to jump quite largely at times by a certain faction. Also why scores rarely ever match what your faction total and player totals are. The one I've always thought suspect is the mad scoring at towards the end of WD at the prize levels. Always a mad dash and crazy scoring for most trying to break into the next tier. I could be wrong but no matter what your score is it will always, always make it to where the whole team needs to score crazy amounts of points to just barely hang on. I've always found this very suspect.

One more thing, jealousy? That is funny, what ever you need to keep telling yourselves to justify it in your own minds. Jealously, LMAO!!

Preacher Wolf
04-24-2015, 07:56 AM
He's done more of that than you could ever imagine. He is actually one of the more respected longtime members here for his input on the game.

I also wonder just how the scores seem to jump quite largely at times by a certain faction. Also why scores rarely ever match what your faction total and player totals are. The one I've always thought suspect is the mad scoring at towards the end of WD at the prize levels. Always a mad dash and crazy scoring for most trying to break into the next tier. I could be wrong but no matter what your score is it will always, always make it to where the whole team needs to score crazy amounts of points to just barely hang on. I've always found this very suspect.


So can you guys provide screen shots of everyone in sups individual scores from last war so we can add up the total and see that it is different from what sups total points was at the end of the war? If you guys are going to make claims like that then i am sure you guys can prove what you guys are saying. If you can't then all this does is prove that you guys are nothing more than talk and run your mouths because you are trying to be something that you can't be

Preacher Wolf
04-24-2015, 08:00 AM
And agent orange is only respected by people that buy into his bull crap. yes he could be a great asset to modern war forums but he has chosen to wast his time and make up bogus claims that he will never be able to prove. and because of that he will never be well respected because no one will ever know what will come out of his mouth next.

Ajk
04-24-2015, 08:28 AM
And agent orange is only respected by people that buy into his bull crap. yes he could be a great asset to modern war forums but he has chosen to wast his time and make up bogus claims that he will never be able to prove. and because of that he will never be well respected because no one will ever know what will come out of his mouth next.
I can't provide the scores can you do that for us? That'd be great thanks.

AO has earned every bit of respect in his time here. You? Not so much.

Great post to try and get this nice civil discussion locked though. Seems some of this is hitting pretty close to home with you huh? Calm down there kiddo.

As much as you all want to believe it's jealousy, it couldn't be further from the truth. It's more frustration then anything. Frustration in the fact that our once beloved game is going down the toilet. The teams at the top hold the power. You refuse to accept the game is a mess and just keep on spending rather than getting grees attention the only way you can. In the wallet. What you are witnessing is more a revolution than anything. The ones who hold the power have upset the rest of the player base and this is what you get. Lashing out at the top for continuing the support. But you refuse to accept this and instead call it jealousy. No, trust us, it's not.

Big John
04-24-2015, 08:43 AM
Took him a while to find the forum, wish he hadn't bothered.

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-24-2015, 08:54 AM
I also wonder just how the scores seem to jump quite largely at times by a certain faction. Also why scores rarely ever match what your faction total and player totals are. The one I've always thought suspect is the mad scoring at towards the end of WD at the prize levels. Always a mad dash and crazy scoring for most trying to break into the next tier. I could be wrong but no matter what your score is it will always, always make it to where the whole team needs to score crazy amounts of points to just barely hang on. I've always found this very suspect.

Yes, those "scores" are most unusual, aren't they? Some think they are magically mysterious!!!


One more thing, jealousy? That is funny, what ever you need to keep telling yourselves to justify it in your own minds. Jealously, LMAO!!

Jealous of what, exactly? LOL

WBS
04-24-2015, 09:14 AM
I would love to know what we are jealous of? I think Speed and wolf don't get the fact that jealousy has nothing to do with anyone's issues with the game. There is nothing to be jealous of. This is a game of the wallet not a game of strategy. The only way to get ahead in this game is by spending large amounts, the small purchases don't do much these days. I think people are just amazed that players still spend big amounts on modern war, and that is not jealousy.

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-24-2015, 09:18 AM
I would love to know what we are jealous of? I think Speed and wolf don't get the fact that jealousy has nothing to do with anyone's issues with the game. There is nothing to be jealous of. This is a game of the wallet not a game of strategy. The only way to get ahead in this game is by spending large amounts, the small purchases don't do much these days. I think people are just amazed that players still spend big amounts on modern war, and that is not jealousy.

Could it be as some have always suggested, that spending might not be spending?????

I mean, it might be more like USING????

Preacher Wolf
04-24-2015, 09:31 AM
so what you guys are saying is that all you guys can do is talk like you guys actually know something but when it comes down to it you can not prove anything. How can you guys say that sups total score does not match up with their individual scores and then say you don't have their individual scores to prove it? This alone proves that you guys do nothing but lie just to spread rumors around. The reason people think that you are jealous is because you guys lie about things to draw attention to yourselfs. all you guys have to do is prove what you are saying, if you can't prove what you are saying then shut your mouth and move on.

Preacher Wolf
04-24-2015, 09:34 AM
I would love to know what we are jealous of? I think Speed and wolf don't get the fact that jealousy has nothing to do with anyone's issues with the game. There is nothing to be jealous of. This is a game of the wallet not a game of strategy. The only way to get ahead in this game is by spending large amounts, the small purchases don't do much these days. I think people are just amazed that players still spend big amounts on modern war, and that is not jealousy.


Why does it matter to you what people spend their money on this game. You guys are the ones that keep bringing up money. You guys make up stuff about factions that spend money. If you are not Jealous then why do you keep attacking people that do spend money. It makes no since. You say that people should not keep spending money on a game that has so many issues but yet you keep playing a game that has so many issues.

Preacher Wolf
04-24-2015, 09:37 AM
Could it be as some have always suggested, that spending might not be spending?????

I mean, it might be more like USING????


Can you prove what you are suggestion??????

If you can't then why keep taking about it. Do you guys really think that people are going to keep listening to you when you can't back up anything that you say.

Big John
04-24-2015, 09:39 AM
The only one who could ever reach me
Was the son of a preacher man
The only boy who could ever teach me
Was the son of a preacher man
Yes he was, he was, ooh, yes he was

Ajk
04-24-2015, 09:44 AM
Why does it matter to you what people spend their money on this game. You guys are the ones that keep bringing up money. You guys make up stuff about factions that spend money. If you are not Jealous then why do you keep attacking people that do spend money. It makes no since. You say that people should not keep spending money on a game that has so many issues but yet you keep playing a game that has so many issues.

Pretty sure I summed it up for you in my previous post. Read it and it will all be explained. Time and time again it has been explained yet always falls on deaf ears or blind eyes. Nothing has changed in our sentiment on this issue. You all just refuse to accept it as the truth and would rather call it jealousy. Read it, learn it, accept it.

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-24-2015, 09:52 AM
Can you prove what you are suggestion??????

If you can't then why keep taking about it. Do you guys really think that people are going to keep listening to you when you can't back up anything that you say.

Dude, this isn't a court of law. Its the internet. LOL

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-24-2015, 09:53 AM
The only one who could ever reach me
Was the son of a preacher man
The only boy who could ever teach me
Was the son of a preacher man
Yes he was, he was, ooh, yes he was


You're very clever, my friend. LOL

Preacher Wolf
04-24-2015, 09:53 AM
Pretty sure I summed it up for you in my previous post. Read it and it will all be explained. Time and time again it has been explained yet always falls on deaf ears or blind eyes. Nothing has changed in our sentiment on this issue. You all just refuse to accept it as the truth and would rather call it jealousy. Read it, learn it, accept it. It is the answer for what you are striving for.

we have heard what you and few other of your friends have to say. you start out saying that if all the top factions stopped spending money it would hit gree where it hurts the most. but then you guys always going on to say that sup and others are getting free gold and are cheating. so let me ask you this. if sup and other top factions are not really spending their money on gold to tap away then wouldn't that actually mean that it would not be hurting gree at all if the top factions stopped real money on this game because according you guys they are getting it all for free anyways.

the reason the top factions don't listen to what you guys have to say is because you guys contradict yourselfs all the time. you guys can not back up anything that you say. its nothing more than just words coming from people that will find something to complain about in no matter what you guys do. this is why we don't listen to what you say the problem is

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-24-2015, 09:57 AM
We know that nothing will change.
What matters is that each of us has changed our behavior.
An adult can only control his or her behavior.
We know that we don't have the power to tell anyone but ourselves what to DEW.
So, we simply are enjoying the FREE floor show, and the fact that there is no cover charge or even a two drink minimum.
Now, I must focus on the fine dancing on display.

I Will Merc You
04-24-2015, 10:01 AM
The proof is in the pudding.

Big John
04-24-2015, 10:05 AM
methinks he doth protest too much.

Preacher Wolf
04-24-2015, 10:08 AM
We know that nothing will change.
What matters is that each of us has changed our behavior.
An adult can only control his or her behavior.
We know that we don't have the power to tell anyone but ourselves what to DEW.
So, we simply are enjoying the FREE floor show, and the fact that there is no cover charge or even a two drink minimum.
Now, I must focus on the fine dancing on display.


you post on here more than anyone so answer this easy question.

if sup and other top factions are not really spending their real money on this game and are tapping for free then how is it possible for the top factions to stop buying gold so that we can hurt gree by taking away there cash flow. you are one of the people that likes to make claims that sup and others are tapping away for free. please let us know how this is possible since you like to talk about it so much

Preacher Wolf
04-24-2015, 10:10 AM
show me the proof and i will go away.


and someone answer my question. you guys act like you know so much about this game and that you are doing all this to make modern war a better game. this is your chance to prove everything that you guys have been saying

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-24-2015, 10:13 AM
you post on here more than anyone so answer this easy question.

if sup and other top factions are not really spending their real money on this game and are tapping for free then how is it possible for the top factions to stop buying gold so that we can hurt gree by taking away there cash flow. you are one of the people that likes to make claims that sup and others are tapping away for free. please let us know how this is possible since you like to talk about it so much


Sorry, I must follow the rules set forth by Gree, the site owner.

I have never suggested, intimated, or hinted attempting to interrupt Gree's right to engage in commerce.

Besides, Gree doesn't permit one to discuss BOYCOTTS, and I have never suggested on this forum BOYCOTTING any Gree game.


I am NOT at liberty to make accusations about any faction, player, or poster.
Gree doesn't permit us to accuse, flame, or troll other posters.

All I can say is that seeing isn't always believing.

I leave you with this, TROLLING is a very fine art, and should not be attempted by the unlearned, the untrained, or the uninitiated.

In other words, don't try this at home.

Now, please, allow me to enjoy the FREE floor show.

truthteller
04-24-2015, 10:16 AM
Agent Orange i just read another thread and i was really impressed with you in that thread. You actually helped another person without running your mouth one time. Just think about how great of a help you could be to the mw community if you actually focused on helping people instead of all this other bull crap you put out in some of the other threads.

as oppose to you that has never posted something meaningful or helpful, tsk tsk bump

Preacher Wolf
04-24-2015, 10:16 AM
Sorry, I must follow the rules set forth by Gree, the site owner.
I am NOT at liberty to make accusations about any faction, player, or poster.
Gree doesn't permit us to accuse, flame, or troll other posters.

All I can say is that seeing isn't always believing.

I leave you with this, TROLLING is a very fine art, and should not be attempted by the unlearned, the untrained, or the uninitiated.

In other words, don't try this at home.

Now, please, allow me to enjoy the FREE floor show.


how is asking you a question trolling? or is this what you do when you know that you are wrong? you have nothing and you can not prove any of your accusations. this is what happens when confront a troll with there bull crap lies.

Preacher Wolf
04-24-2015, 10:20 AM
as oppose to you that has never posted something meaningful or helpful, tsk tsk bump


just another post ignoring the questions that they can't answer. you guys are the ones that made the statements so please prove what you guys have been saying

truthteller
04-24-2015, 10:23 AM
DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!

this thread is so much entertaining thatn Oprah, Jerry and Maury combined ;)

Need more popcorn, brb

DEWIN NUTTIN
04-24-2015, 10:24 AM
how is asking you a question trolling? or is this what you do when you know that you are wrong? you have nothing and you can not prove any of your accusations. this is what happens when confront a troll with there bull crap lies.

Simply put, no one is required to answer your questions, or explain anything to you.
Now, have a nice life.

I Will Merc You
04-24-2015, 10:30 AM
On one hand, this seems to be more about WHEN to spend, as opposed to HOW MUCH one spends.

On the other hand, of you guys who SPEND often......do you think that you are surrounded by like-spending players?

.....either SUP knows, or, sadly....the REAL spenders don't have a clue.

Preacher Wolf
04-24-2015, 10:30 AM
Simply put, no one is required to answer your questions, or explain anything to you.
Now, have a nice life.


just like i thought. you run from your own statements because you know that you guys are doing nothing more than making crap up. you don't have to explain anything to me but why don't you explain to the modern war community how you run when get confronted and asked to back up your statements that contradict each other. maybe you should actually do what your name says and dew nutting and stay out of the forums if all you are going to do is make false statements that you can't back up

Speed ump
04-24-2015, 10:32 AM
Lol, I knew I could get the trolls to crawl out from under their rocks with my last post. It's so easy to get them to dance to my tune. Preacher, loved the twin towers reference. Orange did used to be a good guys, very helpful, but as of late he's fallen under the spell of mr dew and drank th koolaid aid he was offered. No, they have nothing to prove Thier accusations, and in fact since me dew himself was on pace in pun, he knows his words have no truth, and he's seen what we spend. He went to the dark side with hacking, as his mrs cut off his supply of iTunes. The more he could not keep up with the rest of us, the more bitter he became

Ajk
04-24-2015, 10:34 AM
Only the parties in question can prove what you are asking. I on the other hand do believe they are spending, at least some are. Some may or may not be at the top. Again, can it be proven? No. But like Mr. Nuttin has been saying all along is don't believe everything you see, or don't see. It's my opinion. No one other than them can prove it one way or the other. There has been more than one time in the history of this game SUP has received special treatment wether they care to admit it or not we have all witnessed it. So yes, it sure gives one reason to be a bit skeptical.

MENTALLY INCOMPETENT
04-24-2015, 10:47 AM
just like i thought. you run from your own statements because you know that you guys are doing nothing more than making crap up. you don't have to explain anything to me but why don't you explain to the modern war community how you run when get confronted and asked to back up your statements that contradict each other. maybe you should actually do what your name says and dew nutting and stay out of the forums if all you are going to do is make false statements that you can't back up


Well, you should be very happy. You've won here, just like you win in MW.
You must b extremely proud, huh, boss???

ROTFLMAO

Big John
04-24-2015, 10:52 AM
Little does she know that I know that she knows
That I know she''s two-timin'' me
Little does she know that I know that she knows
That I know she''s cheatin'' on me

Preacher Wolf
04-24-2015, 11:08 AM
Well, you should be very happy. You've won here, just like you win in MW.
You must b extremely proud, huh, boss???

ROTFLMAO

why would i be happy. There is no winning in this conversation. you guys post in every thread that you can just so you can spread your bull crap lies. i will be happy when you guys stop contradicting yourselfs or when you guys show any type of proof to what you say.

Bolt
04-24-2015, 11:10 AM
I don't like locking threads but it looks to me like this thread has exhausted it's usefulness. Thank you everyone who had constructive contributions to make.