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Gbrown
07-11-2016, 06:18 PM
Especially running at the same time as Epic boss!

Agent Orange
07-11-2016, 07:35 PM
Yes it does indeed suck, but what the heck it just means more time off to do more productive things.

Brown Out
07-11-2016, 07:45 PM
It's actually kinda fun, there's a learning curve involved.

Rolinz
07-11-2016, 08:17 PM
I think GREEdy needs to increase their income and they figured a way for another gold grab like the Hardcore Epic Boss.

Only way to play and be competitive is to buy and spend gold.

Bad enough the new Faction HQ is a slow gold sucking machine.

I heard of players quitting and deleting the game because they have had enough.

Some are just sitting this event out.

in my opinion, this is worse than the Hardcore Epic Boss. Rewards are lower values for the amount of gold to spend.

Did you also notice the new crates with missing rewards? 500 gold per crate! WTF!?!?

And the stamina refills when from 10 gold to 25 and I am not sure if they refill for 50 still or is it more now?

Gonna sit this one out soon I think.

GREEdy will never tell. We have to figure it out on our own!

Naughty Toon
07-11-2016, 09:20 PM
The event is pointless. Runs out of prizes too fast and event lasts for 4 days. Prizes dont even make my army. The new crates are also a joke, expensive and top prize is triple strike. People will spend to get 100% and then they will pass them out like candy before introducing quadruple strike. Enough is enough

Cuombajj
07-11-2016, 10:16 PM
Oh man, why the same carrot on a stick strategy again as HCB. Why couldn't you let us use our normal attack/defense. And make event around the normal functionality of pvp. This event now is mindless tap on green text and spend gold thing.
And what is the point of attacks costing 5 stamina? Why? People would have too much fun for free? "50 taps for free is too much fun for them, they can only have 10 taps for free and have to pay for more".

sbs2716g
07-11-2016, 11:04 PM
top 500-750 get 2% fight valor payout...
time to sit out this event...

Cuombajj
07-12-2016, 12:05 AM
Ant then you get LTB quest with 1/20 giving triple strike :) It's just random shiiit. Srsly hire an experienced gamer he will balance rewards out for you and can tell you what is fun ant what's not.

ivez
07-12-2016, 12:18 AM
Totally agree what a load of rubbish. Ruin the game more and more..

GSF Wingman GRI
07-12-2016, 02:26 AM
That was the last nail in the coffin. Thank you Gree for destroying a great game!

WBS
07-12-2016, 03:14 AM
Come on guys, think positively we get to use our stamina refills! I haven't touched my 105 refills until now! I might even rank in the top 579!!! I'm so excited ;)

carl9764
07-12-2016, 03:28 AM
Come on guys, think positively we get to use our stamina refills! I haven't touched my 105 refills until now! I might even rank in the top 579!!! I'm so excited ;)

Yep same here got loads to burn lol

Agent Orange
07-12-2016, 04:34 AM
Come on guys, think positively we get to use our stamina refills! I haven't touched my 105 refills until now! I might even rank in the top 579!!! I'm so excited ;)

Yeah I have nearly 1000 stamina refills but honestly what's the point. There is no strategy to this event from what I can determine, basically an 'I whack you, you whack me', and the only way to perhaps ensure you stay unwhacked is to spend 50 gold to bump your defense by 200? percent. Granted since I have no interest in wasting even 25 gold to test this theory since knowing gree those 100 percents are not stackable. So it's likely just base plus 100 percent plus another 100 percent as opposed to base plus 100 percent and then that 200 percent plus 100 percent of that so in other words 3x your base score instead of 4x. The cash boost seems to work as a 3x multiple though I only tested this once and then concluded it was a waste.

But again this event underscores the total lack of overall vision for the game, whoever the heck is running this circus needed months if not years ago set up a master long range plan so that we didn't get these stupid events that try and offset the screw ups made by not having a clear long range plan which controlled the game destroying stat inflation.

Really sad to see, this had been a great game and if the idiot at the helm actually listened to the people paying their salary this game wouldn't be finished as it is now.

HellRaizer
07-12-2016, 04:40 AM
Don't forget that this event has brought back equipment. So you can look forward to gold grabbing LTQs to boost you new PvP stats (for this event only)

HGF69
07-12-2016, 04:51 AM
Don't forget that this event has brought back equipment. So you can look forward to gold grabbing LTQs to boost you new PvP stats (for this event only)

Except the equipment you have cant be used you have to buy more.

Looks like it stacks? Dunno not buying two of anything.

Units are cr@p won't make armies and bonuses are less than event ones.

FREE to play today guys

Jg48
07-12-2016, 05:17 AM
Let alone you gain a lot of space in this event and when you lvl up you don't get your 3 skill points to use.

Way to kill the game gree.....

Vile Lynn
07-12-2016, 09:14 AM
Wow, I was really hoping you guys would love this event like I do.

A few things...
• Get the faction goals finished ASAP, if you can. Losing also counts towards the goal, but winning will give your faction mate points, too!
• Don't use Defense Drinks. You want to build chains with rivals: the higher the chain, the better the rewards and the more points.
• Use Offense Drinks and don't hit green. Hit red a high as you can *with still getting the win. On chains, use the retry bonus if you're close enough to win with another hit or maybe 2. First Strike does not have a Retry bonus.
• Use First Strikes to build up your points if needed to keep up with your highest chains.


Any suggestions on how to improve H&V?

Agent Orange
07-12-2016, 11:06 AM
Wow, I was really hoping you guys would love this event like I do.

A few things...
• Get the faction goals finished ASAP, if you can. Losing also counts towards the goal, but winning will give your faction mate points, too!
• Don't use Defense Drinks. You want to build chains with rivals: the higher the chain, the better the rewards and the more points.
• Use Offense Drinks and don't hit green. Hit red a high as you can.
• Use First Strikes to build up your points if needed to keep up with your highest chains.


Any suggestions on how to improve H&V?

Heh heh, "Any suggestions on how to improve H&V?". Kill it….

Ok sort of kidding aside, thanks for the information though in my case it didn't really help much as the red and green colours are somewhat misleading e.g. in most societies green = go red = stop. It's even that way in the orient so breaking convention makes things well rather unusual.

Reward vs workload, at the point where I am at doesn't seem worth it and then factor in the questionable advantage to using gold again where I'm at with all my players seems to be not worth it. Especially considering that the event is an attempt to get spending started back up, if so it needs to be made worthwhile.

Crashing, yup it's back. I just had a 128GB iPad Pro with about 12GB used crash fairly consistently and the delays from pop ups makes things rather frustrating considering I'm sitting right under an access point running on a fibre backbone.

As I mentioned the main issue I have is that there is no long term design plan for the game, just a bunch of crap piled on top of more crap with stuff working now being a revelation while we've become complacent about screw ups because they happen so often.

It does now look like equipment is in play, I don't recall it showing up in the result box previously but perhaps a pop up nerfed things before I could see it.

Lag is just brutal though on IOS, doesn't really matter what the device from the lowest spec'd iPad to the highest. Android is a lot better for lag but has it's own private hell as well.

Appreciate the update though, not sure it really helps me but I'm sure it helped others.

HellRaizer
07-12-2016, 11:18 AM
Wow, I was really hoping you guys would love this event like I do.

A few things...
• Get the faction goals finished ASAP, if you can. Losing also counts towards the goal, but winning will give your faction mate points, too!
• Don't use Defense Drinks. You want to build chains with rivals: the higher the chain, the better the rewards and the more points.
• Use Offense Drinks and don't hit green. Hit red a high as you can.
• Use First Strikes to build up your points if needed to keep up with your highest chains.


Any suggestions on how to improve H&V?

I tried that. Bought offence (the 10% not 100% because that's gold).. Attacked the highest reds and got the following:

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Red doesn't seem to be the way to go.. I got the 80k by hitting green, but red just keeps losing and then reducing my score

plavine
07-12-2016, 11:19 AM
I like this event - it runs in CC also , where they made some improvements .
Attacking should be 1 stamina
Don't run opposite the epic boss

plavine
07-12-2016, 11:22 AM
I tried that. Bought offence (the 10% not 100% because that's gold).. Attacked the highest reds and got the following:

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https://s31.postimg.org/6we3p57ej/image.png

Red doesn't seem to be the way to go.. I got the 80k by hitting green, but red just keeps losing and then reducing my score
If U attack and lose , attacking the same person again will give you a stats boost
See where it says reinforcement bonus in gold letters

HellRaizer
07-12-2016, 11:25 AM
If U attack and lose , attacking the same person again will give you a stats boost
See where it says reinforcement bonus in gold letters

A 5% boost wouldn't have been enough if you look at those figures. And with each hit being 5 stamina I cant really afford to lose a number of times to work up to one win

WBS
07-12-2016, 12:17 PM
Red is always a loss. I'm just going to use up my stamina refills and continue strolling along for free. Still no reason to give free any gold. They still haven't shown that they are serious about improving gameplay. Get rid of the problems first, then we can talk.

WBS
07-12-2016, 12:37 PM
Wow, I was really hoping you guys would love this event like I do.

A few things...
• Get the faction goals finished ASAP, if you can. Losing also counts towards the goal, but winning will give your faction mate points, too!
• Don't use Defense Drinks. You want to build chains with rivals: the higher the chain, the better the rewards and the more points.
• Use Offense Drinks and don't hit green. Hit red a high as you can.
• Use First Strikes to build up your points if needed to keep up with your highest chains.


Any suggestions on how to improve H&V?


Make it 1 stamina per attack to make it less gold hungry (many won't spend anyways).

-Don't put EB with this event.
-Have gree fix other issues before putting out new events, I know greedy is desperate but quality goes a long way


Vile Lynn- with all due respect, do you honestly think a new event will fix grees issues? I do like the idea of a new event, but it's grees lack of quality and customer care, as well as gold pushing that has driven the fun from this game. Balance out and fix those things and the game has a chance.

Cannot Connect To Server
07-12-2016, 01:00 PM
suggestion is dump it... this event is tiring crud and even if u gv prizes in the T and 200% boosts only ppl that can beat it are millionaire gold players with nothing else to do but injure their butlers fingers and those with equipement of which thr are thousands upon thousands who dont hv any.

its a completely unfair stupid boring event with zero fun... red you lose green u might win... but ranks? no chance without packs or gold.

in one event u eliminated over 90% of the players in the game who hv no chance to hit back on players level 300+.

also thousands of complaints to gree for several years of high data usage...

so you go create this stupid event which sucks even more data than over half the game combined.

you want gold? then you pay our data charges first.

come on gree. put your hands in your pocketscos u owe us billions.

Brown Out
07-12-2016, 01:20 PM
Red is always a loss.

Sometimes...yes. Always...not even close.

To get the most points I attack a player with slightly higher honor points than myself. For instance, if my honor points are 125,000 I hit a player with 150,000 and below. Not sure if this is the best strategy but it's working for me. Still learning as I go.

edit: Also work on building chains in your vengeance list.

HellRaizer
07-12-2016, 02:31 PM
I'm losing maybe 9/10 red attacks, but maybe that because I'm not using gold to boost attacks.. Only plus is the majority of non golders I speak to have the same issue..

It's just another pointless, brainless gold spend event. Spend gold on all boosts, spend gold on packs and just keep attacking valid targets, and get rewarded with mediocre prizes

Vile Lynn
07-12-2016, 02:44 PM
No no no... heh, sorry if that was misleading about hitting RED!

If your attack is 5000, a rival on the list with 6000 will be in red.
BUT, since you have bonuses and offense drinks, your attack is really 6100, so you will win!

^^ that's is what I meant by "hit red as high as you can" (and still win, I should have added.)

Get it now? This example is very basic... remember they can have bonuses and def drinks, too!

Vile Lynn
07-12-2016, 02:48 PM
Heh heh, "Any suggestions on how to improve H&V?". Kill it….

Ok sort of kidding aside, thanks for the information though in my case it didn't really help much as the red and green colours are somewhat misleading e.g. in most societies green = go red = stop. It's even that way in the orient so breaking convention makes things well rather unusual.

Reward vs workload, at the point where I am at doesn't seem worth it and then factor in the questionable advantage to using gold again where I'm at with all my players seems to be not worth it. Especially considering that the event is an attempt to get spending started back up, if so it needs to be made worthwhile.

Crashing, yup it's back. I just had a 128GB iPad Pro with about 12GB used crash fairly consistently and the delays from pop ups makes things rather frustrating considering I'm sitting right under an access point running on a fibre backbone.

As I mentioned the main issue I have is that there is no long term design plan for the game, just a bunch of crap piled on top of more crap with stuff working now being a revelation while we've become complacent about screw ups because they happen so often.

It does now look like equipment is in play, I don't recall it showing up in the result box previously but perhaps a pop up nerfed things before I could see it.

Lag is just brutal though on IOS, doesn't really matter what the device from the lowest spec'd iPad to the highest. Android is a lot better for lag but has it's own private hell as well.

Appreciate the update though, not sure it really helps me but I'm sure it helped others.

Thank you for your feedback, AO. :)

Crashing and lag is something they're always trying to fix; it's frustrating for everybody.

About the green & red colors, yeah I agree. It actually still works here because green means "you'll win" so GO! And red means to stop and figure out if you can win or pick another rival from the list. But, sometimes tapping green causes a loss since scores move up (and down) quickly and one needs to refresh scores often.
What I find unconventional is having to work with a rival to keep chains going. It's just strange, heh!

Since there are soooo many players with tons of previously rewarded (free) stamina refills, I figured this event to be less of a gold grab and more fun for those players who rely on being active to gain an edge up. I find this event to be very exhausting but challenging!

Equipment does come into play, but it's just a small portion for the bonus percentage added to your points per hit. It might help cause a loss if the rival has a higher bonus, but Retry gives +5%* which might make the difference between losing & winning. I've had to hit 3-4x to win and to keep a high chain going. That might not be a good strategy, but it works for the win!

Basically, most players start out on an even field no matter their level: everybody can find First Strikes to gain points, but chains are where the big points are! And, XP gains are very small, if anybody cares about leveling too much. Having a lot of SPs for stamina is definitly an advantage for HLPs over mini accts.


*edit: retry bonus is +5%, but they increased it to +15% in CC, which is much better! Hopefully they'll increase it in MW, too!



Vile Lynn- with all due respect, do you honestly think a new event will fix grees issues? I do like the idea of a new event, but it's grees lack of quality and customer care, as well as gold pushing that has driven the fun from this game. Balance out and fix those things and the game has a chance.
Hi WBS... Of course, I don't believe that a new event will fix anything, but I was hoping this new event would be enjoyable for everybody (and not create more issues!)
I've posted that many times in the past, too: fix the old issues before adding new content! I still don't understand why they can't "just fix stuff!" If it was only that easy. But, I know nothing about coding; some issues must be very challenging and illusive. I have to believe that if they could fix it, they would; and the developers want to have a bug-free game, but bugs happen, crashes happen, lag happens, typos happen.
I play for the fun of it, and I try not to let things out of my control bother me too much. :)

Brown Out
07-12-2016, 03:00 PM
And don't buy the defense boosts! It'll only work to slow you down in building chains.

Cannot Connect To Server
07-12-2016, 03:45 PM
wow ur right gree hv put up stamina from 10 to 25.... talk about thieving from players when stam was always 10.

also all equipment is gold only so it must make a bigger difference or it would be cash or valor to buy it.

WBS
07-12-2016, 06:19 PM
It said in the information about event that attacking again after a loss increases your stats until you can win, afterv2 attacks the attack stopped increasing. Is this a bug or did I read it wrong?

Annihilator2
07-12-2016, 09:01 PM
Honor points calculation is stupid! It is strange when player with 100k points attacks player with 0 points and win 500 points against player with 22k attacks player with 22k and win only 41 points.

List of the rivals is very short (only 10 rows).

5 stamina for 1 hit is too much. It shall be 1 stamina for first stage and 2 for faction.

The bonus items shall be stackable. I want to buy 96 100% attack packs for hour and don't look on status tab more, for example.

Equipment shall be removed from the event.

Stubby1113
07-13-2016, 05:24 AM
Any target under 3000 always gives 500.

plavine
07-13-2016, 08:11 AM
If U attack and lose , attacking the same person again will give you a stats boost
See where it says reinforcement bonus in gold letters
the bonus goes up 5% each time you lose

Danny123
07-13-2016, 08:48 AM
Nor worth the effort - anything but T400 prizes are crap

DEWIN NUTTIN
07-13-2016, 09:08 AM
Nor worth the effort - anything but T400 prizes are crap


True, so very, very true.
Yet, THEY have built it, and many are compelled to DEW as mandated.
I am continually baffled at how easily some are bamboozled.

Bambamgunz
07-13-2016, 10:34 AM
5-6 Stamina per attack,,Not worth wasting my time after used 73 stamina refills i had saved so skipping H&V.
Only couple Units prizes make my army!

WBS
07-13-2016, 01:03 PM
Yes sir Bam, my stats have gone up very little since this event started even with many stamina packs used.

mikebarth1955
07-13-2016, 02:06 PM
Wow, I was really hoping you guys would love this event like I do.

A few things...
Get the faction goals finished ASAP, if you can. Losing also counts towards the goal, but winning will give your faction mate points, too!
Don't use Defense Drinks. You want to build chains with rivals: the higher the chain, the better the rewards and the more points.
Use Offense Drinks and don't hit green. Hit red a high as you can *with still getting the win. On chains, use the retry bonus if you're close enough to win with another hit or maybe 2. First Strike does not have a Retry bonus.
Use First Strikes to build up your points if needed to keep up with your highest chains.


Any suggestions on how to improve H&V?

Having some instructions would help. I read through what is out there, and it is gobbledy-goop, as usual. Your hints are helpful, but not as helpful as they could be. You use terms like "Defense Drinks" which I assume are those little boxes where you can buy a 10% Attack Pack for $3.5M or spend gold for other stuff. I have been buying the attack boosts because they offset the Soldiers Equipment, which I assumed was the old stuff from a couple years back. Except I don't really know because the instructions don't make sense.
"Don't hit green"? I took this advice and started hitting red, and got 75 points, 125 points, and 200 points (and a zero). When I've been hitting the ones that are green, I have been getting more points. Of course, it would help if I knew WTF the numbers are in the first place, but I don't, because there were no usable instructions.
I have been plinking away at this game for years now, and I remember lots of new stuff coming down the pike, like LTQs (I was one of the beta testers), factions (I was one of the beta testers). The only common thread through all of this has been a lack of any instructions.
So anyway, thanks for sharing what you have shared, but usable instructions would have made it more likely that I would "love this event" like you do. But it just seems like another communications failure.

Brown Out
07-13-2016, 05:12 PM
"Don't hit green"? I took this advice and started hitting red, and got 75 points, 125 points, and 200 points (and a zero). When I've been hitting the ones that are green, I have been getting more points. Of course, it would help if I knew WTF the numbers are in the first place, but I don't, because there were no usable instructions.

Work on building "chains" in your vengeance list, that's where the big points are at.

Brown Out
07-13-2016, 05:23 PM
And like I've said earlier...if you're trying to build a chain with someone ...don't buy the defense boost!

EZfodder
07-14-2016, 12:28 AM
I think it is fun, finally some pvp. Lots of fun with the chains. Only bad thing is the rewards, that however means you can play goldfree and not feel u miss anyrhing. Looking forward to next round of this

Pidgeot
07-14-2016, 01:33 AM
what sucks is red and green can mean craps. I've hit greens as lost. While this isn't a huge deal green players would 250k+ defense shouldn't show up with me and my 50k attack just because I happen to have more points then them.

Mrs Cash
07-14-2016, 03:41 PM
Nor worth the effort - anything but T400 prizes are crap

Agreed, awful prizes.




what sucks is red and green can mean craps. I've hit greens as lost. While this isn't a huge deal green players would 250k+ defense shouldn't show up with me and my 50k attack just because I happen to have more points then them.

I only hit greens, and have only lost to one or two of them. I can live with that.



As on CC as well, its hard to believe I have only encountered one rival with the same chain as I have. We have been bouncing back and forth, which has been the only plus, but he/she suddenly disappeared. Maybe they are in a different time zone, maybe they got fed up, beats me. Now I am stuck at 19. Wah...

WBS
07-14-2016, 07:12 PM
I got to a chain of 12 once, I felt so proud that I dipped it in gold and wear it as bling.

On a serious note, I like the idea of a new event, but this one requires way too much time in game. I hit s few times a day and may or may not use anymore stamina packs. It lost my interest quickly.

Annihilator2
07-14-2016, 11:48 PM
The event is very complicated. Prizes is bad.
All new events are ****. The prizes is good in hardcore boss but event is ****. New events are not balanced. Gree makes playing harder for old players but does not help to new players.

Conclusion: time to uninstall the game came.

Cannot Connect To Server
07-18-2016, 04:59 PM
yes too long too much time too much data used too expensive to play on my carrier... very tiring...crud units that was useless to my minis and just total cr@p ltq.

just like current iltq... same crud as before useless prizes too many taps no point hitting certainly no point anyone using 1 gold at all for crud.

the game does need new ltqs new events but gree just rehash... they too lazy... they dont know what to do except rob and defraud everyone.

hire criminals and get done over... they prob all afraid of each other when even walking past... looking over their backs for who to rob in their own building. who knows.

gree need to fix bugs first but course they say they would and force updates and data pushes but no bug fixes for long term incompetance.

the gree simply hv no idea about being honest... no idea about support... no idea about making things work or be fun...

dont feed staff after midnight.

Gremlins Run EverywherE.