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giz
08-20-2016, 11:05 AM
Me if there's any known Issues this wd with match up times? On all our declarations we've been waiting between 10 and 15 minutes to get one

Jg48
08-20-2016, 11:57 AM
It's about the same across the board for most has been up to 50 minutes. Enjoy the delays

WBS
08-20-2016, 02:14 PM
It's much longer than normal, not sure if it's on grees end or it's just less people are playing. Talking around chats it seems like many think WD has become a chore?

Vile Lynn
08-20-2016, 03:24 PM
They might have tweaked the matching algorithm too tightly, but I'll let them know wait times for matching are too long.

Speed ump
08-21-2016, 03:32 PM
I think at the start they were king because of us not playing fl, and ranking being messed up. I believe we had a 40 minute wait at the start, though unfortunately that has been frequent for us. And the team we eventually matched wasn't even a top 200. Heard another top team got a two man team at the start. Match times after the start seemed to be more normal

Agent Orange
08-22-2016, 06:14 AM
Seems to be less factions participating so it's taking longer for the server to find a decent match. As always the parameters seem to relax as time goes on so
you wind up with some really lop sided battles. I got matched up to a 1 player faction that all of my guys could kill. Must have sucked for them.

Another of my test factions hit a 37 player faction, mine was 9 but again after taking out the DL which was stronger than anything I had I was able to slaughter
the rest of that faction.

I think if you have a full faction you might be in trouble based on what I'm seeing.....

Mrs Cash
08-22-2016, 07:15 AM
And the points SUCK, 2xx on a double strike?
Yes, we finally declared our first battle this round with 7 hours remaining in the event. It has become a chore, boring.

Brown Out
08-22-2016, 10:07 AM
No problems with my faction...and we're getting WAY more Legendary matchups than usual.

Agent Orange
08-23-2016, 05:14 AM
No problems with my faction...and we're getting WAY more Legendary matchups than usual.

It does help when you actually aren't playing and just make this stuff up.....

Brown Out
08-23-2016, 07:40 AM
It does help when you actually aren't playing and just make this stuff up.....

Please explain...

pgexp
08-23-2016, 04:29 PM
how do you match faction up? We are a faction of 27 and were matched up against a faction of one [a level 1 player. so do you think he will continue playing

Jg48
08-23-2016, 07:14 PM
Yes how do you match that is the million dollar question. We are a faction of 60 and matched a level 5 single person faction. Please answer the question gree

Vile Lynn
08-23-2016, 08:02 PM
how do you match faction up? We are a faction of 27 and were matched up against a faction of one [a level 1 player. so do you think he will continue playing

Yeah, hopefully he knows that matching a faction of 27 is not the norm, but then factions of 1 is not really the norm, either. He is probably used to matching small factions and "retired" beasts.

The matching algorithm is based on many factors...
• Faction current rank, past rank, avg rank
• Faction size
• Faction average stats, combined total stats
• ??? (pure speculation)

They are double checking their matching algorithm and wait times. Unfortunately, they could not change it during the event without possibly making it worse or unfunctionable.

Brown Out
08-24-2016, 12:46 AM
how do you match faction up? We are a faction of 27 and were matched up against a faction of one [a level 1 player. so do you think he will continue playing

There are GroupMe rooms used to matchup with other factions that are closely ranked (declare at same time).
We usually get about 3 or 4 Legendary matchups the entire event, this last WD we had about 20.

Jg48
08-24-2016, 05:29 AM
I will tell you what went wrong. All the top teams did not play fl and we're not ranked. It will happen again the next time they do not participate in fl again. Please fix

Vile Lynn
08-24-2016, 07:29 AM
I will tell you what went wrong. All the top teams did not play fl and we're not ranked. It will happen again the next time they do not participate in fl again. Please fix

Sooooo you're saying... Play FL and it's fixed! :cool:

Brown Out
08-24-2016, 09:35 AM
Sooooo you're saying... Play FL and it's fixed! :cool:


LMAO!!!!!!! :o

WBS
08-24-2016, 10:42 AM
Sooooo you're saying... Play FL and it's fixed! :cool:

I wish FL was actually fixed, it used to be my favorite event, but the lag is horrible when it comes to deploying. Then at times it doesn't count your deploys. Hopefully the community show that the top teams did to last FL woke up gree.

Speed ump
08-24-2016, 11:53 AM
Lol vile. I do believe that was what I said at the start of this thread, in my own way. I'm sure that makes everyone just tickled pink too.

Agent Orange
08-24-2016, 04:59 PM
I wish FL was actually fixed, it used to be my favorite event, but the lag is horrible when it comes to deploying. Then at times it doesn't count your deploys. Hopefully the community show that the top teams did to last FL woke up gree.

The lag is horrible, reason I don't bother with it.

But WD matching I believe is still hampered by a couple of things, the main one being a lack of participation. Because of this the server cannot immediately find a faction match that is decent so as the clock keeps ticking as the server reduces it's matching parameters until it finds something. At some point I suspect it's programmed to say screw it and just grab the first available faction. Oh it seems the server does try to avoid rematches but again if it can only find the one possibility it will match you.

Now the other interesting thing I have been tracking/testing is forcing a match..... Yup it appears as if there may be away to force one and why it works I suspect is due to the fact that the servers are programmed to drop your live connection until you force a reconnect. Don't forget that when MW was first deployed it ran fairly autonomously and did not require a full time connection but that also opened the door to expoits such as the airplane glitch.

So getting back to the point if you can wake up your connection I have found that this forces a reconnect and you get a match. So far I have tested this on 6 different factions on multiple EDs and it has worked 100% of the time. Now some of this could still just be timing but something you should try....

The other reason I suspect low participation is the number of times I've been matched to the same faction across the same WD weekend. Also the insane mismatches where my primary faction has hit 1 player to 40 player factions on the same weekend and it's only 9 players. Why I won't declare multiple factions at the same time.

In FL I've also been testing to see participation and I find I can nearly consistently match 2 to 3 of my factions together and again have hit same factions multiple times. Granted I have very little knowledge of how FL matches are produced but it seems like it is just looking for any warm bodies to match....

The other factor appears to be time of day as certain times are a lot worse then others.

Speed ump
08-24-2016, 07:27 PM
AO, I am not following this wake up your connection thing. How do you wake it up, and would it have to be done by the one who declared it, any officer?would think that we would about that before. I know we get hung up for very long periods right at the start of wd, while we see many other top ten teams match, while we are declared.

Agent Orange
08-25-2016, 06:58 AM
AO, I am not following this wake up your connection thing. How do you wake it up, and would it have to be done by the one who declared it, any officer?would think that we would about that before. I know we get hung up for very long periods right at the start of wd, while we see many other top ten teams match, while we are declared.

So far from testing I'm seeing that this is something the DL seems to trigger. Mainly by building a wall as each time I go in as DL, go to the fortifications screen and build a wall of any sort I suddenly get matched. Might be a weird coincidence but so far has worked every time across 6 test factions and 6 different DL's. Perhaps vaulting cash might work though it seems to be the DL that is the trigger. Perhaps an even bigger reason to have a second in command, that would be the one thing I think is most needed. Not just from this standpoint but if the DL gets locked out or worse then things aren't a complete disaster.

DEWIN NUTTIN
08-25-2016, 07:04 AM
So far from testing I'm seeing that this is something the DL seems to trigger. Mainly by building a wall as each time I go in as DL, go to the fortifications screen and build a wall of any sort I suddenly get matched. Might be a weird coincidence but so far has worked every time across 6 test factions and 6 different DL's. Perhaps vaulting cash might work though it seems to be the DL that is the trigger. Perhaps an even bigger reason to have a second in command, that would be the one thing I think is most needed. Not just from this standpoint but if the DL gets locked out or worse then things aren't a complete disaster.


LOL, funny I've tried your approach with the same result.
The difference is that in my little junk (fake factions), everyone is an officer.
As only iOS devices can build walls, never tried that technique of building a wall.
I have found that by DEWIN SUMPIN related to faction management after declaring, the match occurs within seconds of any such action.

Speed ump
08-25-2016, 07:13 PM
Wait. So you dewed somthin, which ain't dewin nuthin? I did sumthin last night, back can't talk about those sorts of things here. Ok ok, so I tapped in the pvp contest, ok. There, I did sumthin, you happy.

DEWIN NUTTIN
08-25-2016, 09:12 PM
Wait. So you dewed somthin, which ain't dewin nuthin? I did sumthin last night, back can't talk about those sorts of things here. Ok ok, so I tapped in the pvp contest, ok. There, I did sumthin, you happy.

No worries, mate, you're the boss, almighty, grand, supreme overlord of you.
You DEW SUMPIN, it's by your leave.
You DEW NUTTIN, it's by your leave, too.

Annihilator2
08-28-2016, 11:39 AM
Yeah, hopefully he knows that matching a faction of 27 is not the norm, but then factions of 1 is not really the norm, either. He is probably used to matching small factions and "retired" beasts.

The matching algorithm is based on many factors...
Faction current rank, past rank, avg rank
Faction size
Faction average stats, combined total stats
??? (pure speculation)

They are double checking their matching algorithm and wait times. Unfortunately, they could not change it during the event without possibly making it worse or unfunctionable.

All these multiple factors shall not be used. Changes in the game cause that players leave the game (what cause faction merges) or boycott events. So only current rank in current event shall be used for matching. Gree shall be simpler and all will work better and more clear.

Agent Orange
08-28-2016, 04:14 PM
All these multiple factors shall not be used. Changes in the game cause that players leave the game (what cause faction merges) or boycott events. So only current rank in current event shall be used for matching. Gree shall be simpler and all will work better and more clear.

That could prove interesting for those factions sitting out this event....

Annihilator2
08-29-2016, 09:05 AM
That could prove interesting for those factions sitting out this event....

Is it critical? Waiting 15-30 minutes for match is critical for me. And usual matching instead of epic or legendary
If some team want to sit out some event, it is their choice. Additionally, we see a lot of died factions in last time.

Agent Orange
08-29-2016, 11:01 AM
Is it critical? Waiting 15-30 minutes for match is critical for me. And usual matching instead of epic or legendary
If some team want to sit out some event, it is their choice. Additionally, we see a lot of died factions in last time.

I suspect the wait will not get any better and the matches a lot more lop sided. The last FL I tested had a lot of single players or perhaps a faction where only 1-2 players
actually participated and that was also pretty common on the last WD as well.