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The Pharoah
11-06-2017, 08:35 AM
Now you have become the custodians of the shambling zombie husk that is Modern War, please can you outline your intentions with regard to the following points:

1) Limited Time Quest Buildings. Have noted a lack of these for some while until the 8-level Precision/Precise(?) Tower. Noticed this is just a repurposed version of an existing LTQ building. No changes at all. Is this going to be a thing? Will you be shelling out for some original artwork is the future? Cash from LTQ buildings is really the only way for new players to boost their income. Without this, you will see (even) more n00bs flake out within days of starting, because they can't afford to buy buildings or do upgrades.

2) Base expansion. Pretty sure that most of us on this forum maxed out our base expansions years ago. Doesn't really seem to be any reason why there has to be a maximum base size at all, but even if there does, why couldn't it be twice what it is now? I'm nearly full now, and I'd like to keep growing my base. Probably lots of other people would too.

3) Defence buildings. HAHAHAHAHA yeah. Can you please look at finding a way to make these relevant again? Used to be a useful tool once upon a time, now...not so much.

4) Graphics. It's not 2010 any more. Please can we get something done about the horribly dated look of the maps. Maybe send some people out into the real world to see what actual humans, vehicles, and buildings, look like.

5) New Unit buildings. We've had the same unit buildings since...always, I think. Not that it matters, since none of the units actually make it into battle any more, but if you were intending to make the cash units relevant again at some point, perhaps we could have new unit buildings with more of a 'future war' theme.

I'd be interested to see what's on the cards.

Brunstock
11-06-2017, 08:55 AM
Wow...I think you have spent more time thinking about the game than greedeca has......well done.

solper
11-07-2017, 02:03 AM
When community talking about boycott, then there are trouble.

Game made not for new players, slowly become dead game.

Mrs Cash
11-07-2017, 07:52 AM
"shambling zombie husk", true that!
Lmfao...

WBS
11-08-2017, 06:26 PM
It's amazing the game is still running at this point. It makes you miss the good days of the game when you hear about cash buildings.

robmurphy
11-09-2017, 12:06 AM
Iíve not been in the forum for many months, but surprise surprise, still so much impotent whining in here.

GreeDeca donít invest in new players or LTBs etc for existing players because they generate zero revenue.

GreeDeca is a commercial company, what would be the benefit for them?

Ditto WD and FL events. Once the major revenue stream for the company, now simply a cut & paste exercise every week because it does not generate revenue.

Only a fraction of the players in the Top 5 teams use gold in those events. They donít need to. In WD, the game lag when using Health Packs is longer than many players regen, so theyíre not used.

The only aspect of the game which make GreeDeca any noticible revenue are cases and lockboxes. The great whales in the game (to whom we should all be grateful as itís only them who keep this game live) now pour their gold into those things. There are some top players who buy EVERY unit ever sold by GreeDeca.

As I say, itís those people you should thank.

The only entertaining part of this game is the Ďbanterí between the top factions and their respective players.

If you play for free, stop whining about what GreeDeca do or donít do for you - youíre not important.

Just keep your fingers crossed the top spenders continue to finance this game for you.

Mrs Cash
11-09-2017, 11:13 AM
If you play for free, stop whining about what GreeDeca do or don’t do for you - you’re not important.


If the bugs would get fixed, more people might be willing to spend money. I wouldn't and won't invest a single penny into this bug infested trash. A lot of people share that same logic. If GreeDeca can't see this, then it's their loss.

robmurphy
11-09-2017, 11:20 AM
If the bugs would get fixed, more people might be willing to spend money. I wouldn't and won't invest a single penny into this bug infested trash. A lot of people share that same logic. If GreeDeca can't see this, then it's their loss.

Always ďifĒ

If I was better looking and rich, Iíd be married to Liv Tyler........but I ainít.

The game will never get fixed, QED you will never spend, QED you are irrelevant.

Iíve heard Candy Crush is relatively bug free

solper
11-09-2017, 03:47 PM
Who keep the game alive?

A whale is eaten by many players.

A big sale or many small, what is most profitable?

And a game who develop as we walk, of course it would be error.

robmurphy
11-09-2017, 11:05 PM
Who keep the game alive?

A whale is eaten by many players.

A big sale or many small, what is most profitable?

And a game who develop as we walk, of course it would be error.

Seriously, thatís your rebuttal?

So tired and naive.

solper
11-10-2017, 07:32 AM
This is the real life, deal with it.

robmurphy
11-10-2017, 08:15 AM
This is the real life, deal with it.

Oh, OK. That clears everything up.

Thank the good Lord above that you are here to remind us this is Ďreal lifeí.

It helps a lot. Thanks.

WBS
11-15-2017, 06:58 PM
Always “if”

If I was better looking and rich, I’d be married to Liv Tyler........but I ain’t.

The game will never get fixed, QED you will never spend, QED you are irrelevant.

I’ve heard Candy Crush is relatively bug free

You do realize that the reason many quit spending was because of gree’s Stupidity right? It’s grees fault that only whales still spend, as many of the current free players used to spend, and I’m one of them.

robmurphy
11-17-2017, 01:04 AM
Oh, OK. That clears everything up.

Thank the good Lord above that you are here to remind us this is Ďreal lifeí.

It helps a lot. Thanks.

I'm sorry but you're completely wrong. GREE are not stupid, they are very smart.

Apologies if you already know this, but every product (including Modern War) goes through a Product Lifecycle. Basically, all products have an Introduction Stage, Growth Stage, Maturity Stage and a Decline Stage.

Modern War has very clearly completed the first three stages. This is evident with the stories of multi-million dollar players and the huge gold-fuelled rivalries between SUP and EW. However, the game is clearly now in the Decline Stage - which is fine, it's just the natural way of things.

During this Decline Stage the company (GREE) will do everything they can to squeeze maximum revenue whilst cutting costs wherever they can. They are doing a great job at this evidenced by the fact that NOTHING is getting fixed in the game and yet they are still players who spend tens of thousands of dollars on a regular basis.

GREE can very easily perpetuate this Decline Stage for years. All they need to do is keep releasing new glitzy units which the big spending players will always buy. Look at the fantastically successful launch of the Frontline Regen units. Don't be at all surprised if we find more regular special units arriving: Stamina Regen, Hardcore Boss Regen etc. etc. These are very cheap investments for GREE to make as they do not require full infrastructure rewrites.

So in summary, GREE are not stupid, they are very clever and highly commercially focussed. The game may end tomorrow, but just as likely it could carry on for years through this decline stage. Also, I'm not trying to be aggressive or argumentative by saying non-gold players are irrelevant, but the brutal truth is that you are. GREE don't give a toss about those who play for free, why would they? As long as they have 5 or 10 big factions full of people who still want to spend, who cares about those outside the top 5/10.

By GREE letting you play for free doesn't cost them anything (even their customer service replies are mostly automated), and there is always the chance that players like you who used to spend gold will be temped by one of the new shiny trinkets. It's a win-win for GREE.

Pay-to-play or play-free, it doesn't make a difference, GREE will always win. They have a low cost, high margin revenue stream. When that stops, the game stops.

Heads GREE wins, Tails you lose.

WBS
11-17-2017, 02:58 AM
Some of what you say is true Rob, but if Gree was as smart as you say they are they wouldn’t have such a low quality game. They would be making much more if they cared about the game rather than just placing duct tape over problems. I get why they do what they do, but they doesn’t change the fact that they are a lazy company.

robmurphy
11-17-2017, 03:25 AM
Some of what you say is true Rob, but if Gree was as smart as you say they are they wouldnít have such a low quality game. They would be making much more if they cared about the game rather than just placing duct tape over problems. I get why they do what they do, but they doesnít change the fact that they are a lazy company.

I guess it's just a matter of perspective, I'm certainly not saying you're wrong and I'm right because neither of us knows what's going on behind the closed doors of GREE HQ.

But for me, Modern War is a low quality game and has been for a long time. What do we have?

1. Ridiculous lag
2. Boring as hell LTQs
3. WD which is now pretty much run by auto-bots
4. Frontline which half the players love, half the players despise (I'm firmly in the despise camp)
5. 1980's graphics
6. Glitch after glitch
etc. etc. etc.

The game in isolation is rubbish. It's mainly the competitive/tribal nature of factions that make it mildly entertaining. Plus the fact that most of us feel we have spent so much in the game that we can't walk away now.....

Modern War will NEVER be a high quality game. Perhaps they're secretly working on MW2...?

The sheer cost of removing the miles of duct tape from the infrastructure would (probably) cost a lot more than building/buying a new platform.

The acid test, in my opinion, as to whether GREE are smart or stupid is simple -

1. Are there still lots of whales who spend stupid amounts of money on this game (or who are great at hacking)
2. Do GREE avoid spending a dime wherever possible.

Yes and yes.

I applaud GREE, from our outside perspective, they're doing exactly the right thing.

NaRciS
11-17-2017, 01:42 PM
Have to agree with Rob, Gree are very clever, they played the game above and beyond probably their own expectations with regards to profit from this app.

Let's be honest they are still generating good profit (as the owners), with Deca implementing strategic revenue generating ideas.

They have been helped greatly by a group of players with the ability to spend, I'm guessing they didn't expect the game to grow as it did, and with no big development budgets allocated the only way forward was the 'Duct Tape'.

I have never played for the game; it's always been about the new friends made over the past five years.

Has it been worth it? Well, a few of them are a pain in the ass but in general, I would say, Yes!

WBS
11-18-2017, 04:51 AM
I agree Rob for the most part, I’m speaking more into the business aspect of it. Grees been good at sucking out income from a lackluster game. But in my overall perspective I feel they could have done much better if they took out the greed and laziness, in my eyes they would be making much more than they have if they practiced what their mommas should have told them.

Captain Steelman
11-18-2017, 08:41 AM
Yeah, there is some room for improvments of the game but dont touch the music... The in game music is wounderfull and I cant live without it...��

WBS
11-18-2017, 08:35 PM
Yeah, there is some room for improvments of the game but dont touch the music... The in game music is wounderfull and I cant live without it...��

I haven’t heard the music since I first started before factions.

Bambamgunz
11-19-2017, 11:59 AM
Have to agree with Rob, Gree are very clever, they played the game above and beyond probably their own expectations with regards to profit from this app.

Let's be honest they are still generating good profit (as the owners), with Deca implementing strategic revenue generating ideas.

They have been helped greatly by a group of players with the ability to spend, I'm guessing they didn't expect the game to grow as it did, and with no big development budgets allocated the only way forward was the 'Duct Tape'.

I have never played for the game; it's always been about the new friends made over the past five years.

Has it been worth it? Well, a few of them are a pain in the ass but in general, I would say, Yes!

Should have used Gorilla Tape and i do unmute music sometimes to remind me how the game use to work as intended
in FUNZIO days!!

The Pharoah
11-26-2017, 04:46 PM
There must come a point where it becomes more costly to have spenders (people are really still spending on this?) slowly drift away, than it would be to address even one or two of the more prominent problems of the game as the cash flow allows. As there are fewer spenders and less income, so the percentage drop caused by each one leaving becomes more statistically significant. Putting some money into maintenance (I won't say development) is simply good sense.

You gotta feed the cow if you want to keep milking it...unless you think milk is worth less than grass, in which case, why stay in the milk business anyway?

doeboy
11-27-2017, 09:22 AM
so with all the things wrong with game why are worried about the graphics for real graphics