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qwikster
02-10-2012, 06:16 PM
Question to VHL players (lvl 150+):

What is the composition of your rival list in terms of opponents' level? What is the typical range? What is the lowest level player you have come across?

The reason I am asking this question is because I am climbing up the ladder fast (currently lvl 121) and was thinking of semi-camping at some point in order to give myself time to build up my defenses.

P.S. Players in 125-140 range are also welcome to chime in; of players attacking you, what was the highest level you encountered?

dudeman
02-10-2012, 06:26 PM
I'm nearing the end of level 126 and recently I was attacked by someone at level 195. That rival is off my news now so I can't go get you guys a name, but I think it's safe to say VHL can see down at least to level 126.

qwikster
02-10-2012, 06:34 PM
I'm nearing the end of level 126 and recently I was attacked by someone at level 195. That rival is off my news now so I can't go get you guys a name, but I think it's safe to say VHL can see down at least to level 126.

thanks. i have started noticing an increasing number of players with better stats. my current defense is 28,957 (real ~28700). i want to increase my defense to at least 35,000 before i get to your level.

dudeman
02-10-2012, 07:00 PM
My defense is quite unimpressive for my level (less than yours) and I do all right. Maybe not for much longer, but that's not til later. I've been working on my defense fora little over two weeks, with only a few thousand points to show for it. :(

Brent
02-10-2012, 07:36 PM
Im level 148 and i see levels 124-200.

J.J.
02-10-2012, 08:58 PM
thanks. i have started noticing an increasing number of players with better stats. my current defense is 28,957 (real ~28700). i want to increase my defense to at least 35,000 before i get to your level.

Not enough, I'd recommend 50,000 if you can pull it off.

erik
02-10-2012, 09:13 PM
Whocares - I am hanging at 141 with about 22kA and 27kD (Actual D is less than 200pts below.) It is not high for my level at this time.

It is also not my focus. Yet.

With that being said, I can easily empty my 100+ stamina points and have earned my lvl 141 attk goal. I am attacking folks from 124 to 159 right now... but am also having to avoid plenty. (I can see 124-200) Lots of folks listed at 23k and below that are actually 19k and below.

140 is a STARK change. I dropped 10 levels of targets instantly. I also can no longer trust sitting for 5 minutes with cash if I am not beaten down. I use my wall to let me know if it is safe outside.

If you are going to camp, I suggest 135 so you can build your office buildings. Maybe a little before if you want to get Nightclubs up before you hit 135, although I don't know your $/hr and how long that would take.

IMO at least do not stop 100% utilization of your energy on your current farm.

PS. I did make this move with a 215k RP safety net, and have not felt the need to touch it yet.

qwikster
02-10-2012, 09:52 PM
Not enough, I'd recommend 50,000 if you can pull it off.

i wish. problem is i do not intend to spend gold for weapons. i am resigned to the fact that i won't be able to defend some powerful players who spent gazillions on the game (you know who you are!). i only want to fend off 90-95% of my rivals. that is my expectation.

snowstockholm
02-11-2012, 04:34 AM
When I was level 125 two days ago, I was attacked by a level 200. Our stat and income differences were heaven and earth, so I paid my respect to her and asked her what her rivals list looked like. She said it contained lots of people higher than her level 200.

I have also seen at least one hourly millionaire and quite a few with $0.8m income per hour. I don't know how they do it. Or I should say I don't know how much real money they spent getting there.

AppleMacGuy
02-11-2012, 06:29 AM
i wish. problem is i do not intend to spend gold for weapons. i am resigned to the fact that i won't be able to defend some powerful players who spent gazillions on the game (you know who you are!). i only want to fend off 90-95% of my rivals. that is my expectation.

It is quite possible (with a lot of effort) to attain 50,000 defence. Until this week I had no gold weapons whatsoever (I've bought a few crates) and I'm nearly at 40K. My profile def. is nearly 55K. The game changer IMO is when you start acquiring explosives - they are vastly underrated. I expect to have 50K def. in next 2 weeks or so ;) Best strategy is to start with cheaper ones and pyramid up. Of course, you need to have a decent economy to make the investment into the better explosives - at least 300K/hour. I'm at 407K, working towards 500K.

madawgg
02-11-2012, 08:04 AM
I'm lvl 172 and non-gold spent. i can see down to 120+. lol im scared now. 35000 for lvl 126?? my attack is only 30600 without explosives. seems like im gonna rely on explosives pretty heavily pretty damn soon then.
you guys are forcing me to buy gold...uhhhh bastards!!

qwikster
02-11-2012, 08:10 AM
I have also seen at least one hourly millionaire and quite a few with $0.8m income per hour. I don't know how they do it. Or I should say I don't know how much real money they spent getting there.

I suppose income north of 1mil/hr is CC's version of the holy grail. If we keep playing this game for a year, who knows...

Fricco
02-11-2012, 08:23 AM
Im a lvl 138 and i can see from 115-200

J.J.
02-11-2012, 08:35 AM
i wish. problem is i do not intend to spend gold for weapons. i am resigned to the fact that i won't be able to defend some powerful players who spent gazillions on the game (you know who you are!). i only want to fend off 90-95% of my rivals. that is my expectation.

At 35,000 you might be able to defend yourself from about 75% of rivals. At 50,000 it would definitely be 90%.

You know who has caused an epic arms race like the Soviet Union v USA during the cold war. The thing is that he is going to get slaughtered badly, hopefully he has enough $ to fend off the camper account n00bs.

Nicholost
02-11-2012, 08:43 AM
You know who has caused an epic arms race like the Soviet Union v USA during the cold war. The thing is that he is going to get slaughtered badly, hopefully he has enough $ to fend off the camper account n00bs.
Who's that? TS?

madawgg
02-11-2012, 08:45 AM
At 35,000 you might be able to defend yourself from about 75% of rivals. At 50,000 it would definitely be 90%.

You know who has caused an epic arms race like the Soviet Union v USA during the cold war. The thing is that he is going to get slaughtered badly, hopefully he has enough $ to fend off the camper account n00bs.
i would say with 35000 you can defend urself against 99% of all playes...from my experience only 20-30 ppl has attack higher than that. mostly, ppl now have defense of 28000+ or so is pretty common among 130-140. and yeah you guys are bringing me troubles hmmm

madawgg
02-11-2012, 08:48 AM
I suppose income north of 1mil/hr is CC's version of the holy grail. If we keep playing this game for a year, who knows...
and i can say with confidence with 1million per hour there's definitely time cheat...in case you wonder, if you buy wall the gold buildings and upgrade them to lvl 3, ur income is still 80k...and keep increasing lvls are merely impossible time-wise. I have seen two with 1 mil/hour, but they all cheated lol, and i haven't seen them ever since.
the ultimate income doable should be around half mil/hour. that's doable and if you really invest your money, you can reach it in one month.

J.J.
02-11-2012, 09:42 AM
Who's that? TS?

No, Anubis's stalker lol.

AppleMacGuy
02-11-2012, 09:45 AM
the ultimate income doable should be around half mil/hour. that's doable and if you really invest your money, you can reach it in one month.

With or without gold buildings? IMO 500K is only possible in a realistic timeframe with gold buildings. I will be there within 2-3 weeks :D

madawgg
02-11-2012, 09:59 AM
With or without gold buildings? IMO 500K is only possible in a realistic timeframe with gold buildings. I will be there within 2-3 weeks :D
with gold buildings lol. without gold buildings one should aim for 30k. which in my case is gonna take another 2 months at least. I'm sitting on 11k now

Joeycool
02-11-2012, 01:50 PM
I'm level 155.

I see 124 - 200.

For info my stats are Att - 38,120, Def 42,992 and I dont think I'm particularly strong for my level.

madawgg
02-11-2012, 03:15 PM
joey you are being humble, your stat is one of the highest among lvl 150-160. if you pay attention, there are only about 15 ppl on ur lvl anyways...

Joeycool
02-11-2012, 03:58 PM
joey you are being humble, your stat is one of the highest among lvl 150-160. if you pay attention, there are only about 15 ppl on ur lvl anyways...

I'm not being humble... I seem to get beat up loads!

snowstockholm
02-12-2012, 05:47 AM
With or without gold buildings? IMO 500K is only possible in a realistic timeframe with gold buildings. I will be there within 2-3 weeks :D

I took a screen shot of this guy 'Dilligent' (not sure if I am breaking any rule naming someone) on level 133 with $731,152 hourly income. I bowed to him.

Max Power
02-12-2012, 07:13 AM
I took a screen shot of this guy 'Dilligent' (not sure if I am breaking any rule naming someone) on level 133 with $731,152 hourly income. I bowed to him.

I have seen him. No worries about naming him.

Ghost818
02-12-2012, 07:43 AM
I have seen him. No worries about naming him.
I actually managed to attack and take 270k from him this was about a week and a half ago, then i managed to rob him of 450k but now i cant even manage to rob anything I dont know how his defence went up so fast but yeah props to him hes got an amazing hood

AppleMacGuy
02-12-2012, 08:20 AM
I took a screen shot of this guy 'Dilligent' (not sure if I am breaking any rule naming someone) on level 133 with $731,152 hourly income. I bowed to him.

He is now level 138 with hourly income of $961,187. Impressive, if it has been achieved by honest means. Maybe he used a lot of gold to accelerate building upgrades?

Max Power
02-12-2012, 10:41 AM
I remember being able to rob him a few levels ago, not I cant touch him.

AppleMacGuy
02-13-2012, 04:00 AM
He is now level 138 with hourly income of $961,187. Impressive, if it has been achieved by honest means. Maybe he used a lot of gold to accelerate building upgrades?

Overnight his income has the million per hour mark to stand at $1,017,599 :confused:

snowstockholm
02-15-2012, 04:27 AM
Overnight his income has the million per hour mark to stand at $1,017,599 :confused:

I can verify that this report is correct because I took a screen shot. His attack is 34,650 and defence 65,893.

LOL. It's like a bunch of people chasing the elusive Jaguar shark in Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou.

AppleMacGuy
02-15-2012, 06:08 AM
I can verify that this report is correct because I took a screen shot. His attack is 34,650 and defence 65,893.

LOL. It's like a bunch of people chasing the elusive Jaguar shark in Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou.

Yeah, but the real buring issue here is whether the hourly income has been attained genuinely? It just seems awful high IMO even for a level 138 player? Only way I see it happen is using to gold to accelerate the builds/upgrades or cheating? :confused:

sez
02-15-2012, 08:14 AM
I'm nearing the end of level 126 and recently I was attacked by someone at level 195. That rival is off my news now so I can't go get you guys a name, but I think it's safe to say VHL can see down at least to level 126.

im lvl 137 but since lvl 130 I every now and then see 200's in my rival list.

Swifty
02-15-2012, 08:34 AM
Very much looking forward to the day I can get attacked and robbed by the elite players.

Joeycool
02-15-2012, 08:56 AM
I'm level 157. I see 124 to 200 on my list.

whocareswhatmynameis
02-15-2012, 09:04 AM
I'm level 157. I see 124 to 200 on my list.

thanks. i have a friend who just reached lvl 124 confirm to me that he has started being attacked by VHL players. it is clear that lvl 124 is the current cutoff point.

Swifty
02-15-2012, 09:17 AM
Desperately clawing my way toward 124.

whocareswhatmynameis
02-15-2012, 09:23 AM
Desperately clawing my way toward 124.

i'm doing the contrary. i'm at 122. will camp for a while. i'm done with M4A1 farming... will start DD in a few weeks (maybe). currently expanding my hood and building defense structures. my defense is ~29K... aiming for 35K before leveling up.

Swifty
02-15-2012, 09:29 AM
I am at level 111, so maybe when I get to 122 I will change my mind.

But camping seems like wasted potential to me.

I put a lot into stamina, and it seems inefficient not to try to get the most out of those points.