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superdad
04-30-2012, 05:57 PM
Before my army was large, winning 200-300 gold was profitable even if I lost a unit. Now, even people with 5000 gold could have it all stashed, and my army is big enough that I lose 1-2 units every fight. I *may* win 300 gold, but I will lose 500 gold of units.

It is to the point where it makes no sense for me to attack anymore.

Freekizh
04-30-2012, 06:02 PM
Superdad, I have raided guys who had as much as 20,000 gold unvaulted, winning 2,000 with each attack but my losses were such that I was barely ahead....

p.s. I see you on my pending list..I am at max allies, will add at some point.

Ghost818
04-30-2012, 06:04 PM
Since most of my units now are expensive I only attack people weaker than me, and I do make profit but its not noticeable, I only attack for the Honor from the Tournament quests

eternalfire
04-30-2012, 06:07 PM
What is honor good for? There's like no weapon/armor to buy with honor... and the units you can get could easily be replaced by a similar gold unit (not gem)

Ghost818
04-30-2012, 06:08 PM
What is honor good for? There's like no weapon/armor to buy with honor... and the units you can get could easily be replaced by a similar gold unit (not gem)

Honor is only used for Units, and the Honor units casualty rates are lower than the gold with equivalent stats.

Freekizh
04-30-2012, 06:10 PM
What is honor good for? There's like no weapon/armor to buy with honor... and the units you can get could easily be replaced by a similar gold unit (not gem)

At the highest levels, you cannot get the quality of honor units without HUGE unit building upgrades..

Ghost818
04-30-2012, 06:13 PM
Couldn't agree more - so far I have accumulated only 2000 honor points but its been so painful...

Just spent 2500 and got 5 Cannons

eternalfire
04-30-2012, 06:13 PM
Meh with them being so expensive you could probably only afford 1 or 2 of the quality honor units. And I've already lost most of my units that listed as "low casualty". Was hoping they add in honor weapons so we don't face palm when a 2k honor point unit mysteriously dies in a battle :/

eternalfire
04-30-2012, 06:16 PM
I agree with that investment :)

If only we can trade in KA :D I'll offer up my catapults for one of those bad boys

Ourpalace
04-30-2012, 06:54 PM
Better than MW so far. I stopped attacking people long time ago. The only benefit is to gain serval points.

CC may be is the best on this matter:

StuN
05-01-2012, 02:10 AM
I'm camped down at lvl 10, upgrading my money buildings & I make a shed load of gold from ppl attacking me

Njwmrb
05-01-2012, 04:28 AM
Yes I make a lot of money from PvP, I have 63k and I'd estimate 50K+ of that is from PvP and whoever wins a few fights against me is going to walk away with a large chunk of cash

Ghost818
05-01-2012, 08:59 AM
Yes I make a lot of money from PvP, I have 63k and I'd estimate 50K+ of that is from PvP and whoever wins a few fights against me is going to walk away with a large chunk of cash

What level are you? Most I've had at once is 88K

Hoodcrazy
05-01-2012, 11:14 AM
At 106 allies im often losing 2-3 unit a fight now. I stick to fighting for tournament quest and keep my vault full , immediatly spend extra gold on units. Mage unit have good stats but high casualty so i avoid them. Oh and upgrade Beast Warren Lv3 or Siege Workshop Lv4 ASAP for the low casualty honor units.

bredo2
05-01-2012, 12:34 PM
Yeah this is what killed MW for me. There is no point in doing anything once you get a large army, because you always lose more units than you earn from looting cash from opponents. The way this is made you either need to keep a real small army and have very limited ppl to fight, or just stop pvp alltogether. It really sucks. I was hoping this game would solve this better than MW, but alas its just the same.

Theres nothing to do when you have large army other than building up your base.

Sexyman
05-01-2012, 12:50 PM
At 106 allies im often losing 2-3 unit a fight now. I stick to fighting for tournament quest and keep my vault full , immediatly spend extra gold on units. Mage unit have good stats but high casualty so i avoid them. Oh and upgrade Beast Warren Lv3 or Siege Workshop Lv4 ASAP for the low casualty honor units.

keep your allies low and you will lose little to no units per fight. once they fix the rival list like they said there will be no point to a large army unless you have the gold to support it.

Njwmrb
05-01-2012, 01:46 PM
What level are you? Most I've had at once is 88K

29, I finally got my magic academy to lvl 8 so I just spent most of it on Priests

Freekizh
05-01-2012, 02:09 PM
29, I finally got my magic academy to lvl 8 so I just spent most of it on Priests

What are your stats now after the upgrade, including economy if you don't mind me asking. Thanks.

Njwmrb
05-01-2012, 02:19 PM
40 allies
Attack: 2211
Defense: 3023
Income: 1875 (I don't have cottages)

Freekizh
05-01-2012, 02:35 PM
40 allies
Attack: 2211
Defense: 3023
Income: 1875 (I don't have cottages)

They look great. Thanks.

eternalfire
05-01-2012, 05:57 PM
I have 6 allies and I'm losing units fairly consistently if I attack other players. Probably in the last 10 attacks I lost 3-4 units. I guess I'm still profiting but that's a pain to keep losing units like that. The players I attack have 100-200 less defense than I have attack too... this seems broken imo

Sexyman
05-01-2012, 06:27 PM
I have 6 allies and I'm losing units fairly consistently if I attack other players. Probably in the last 10 attacks I lost 3-4 units. I guess I'm still profiting but that's a pain to keep losing units like that. The players I attack have 100-200 less defense than I have attack too... this seems broken imo

it could possibly be due to that they have a lot of stat points put into their defense, while you might not have a lot in your attack. does this sound right?

zsqysq
05-01-2012, 06:40 PM
The low casualty thing does work but not so much. I had 2 War Colem died after ~30 fights, while I always had 150+ battle rams. And I had around 10 rogues died before. I am so sad about the loss of honor units. :,(


At 106 allies im often losing 2-3 unit a fight now. I stick to fighting for tournament quest and keep my vault full , immediatly spend extra gold on units. Mage unit have good stats but high casualty so i avoid them. Oh and upgrade Beast Warren Lv3 or Siege Workshop Lv4 ASAP for the low casualty honor units.

eternalfire
05-01-2012, 07:06 PM
it could possibly be due to that they have a lot of stat points put into their defense, while you might not have a lot in your attack. does this sound right?

No it does not, I actually have quite a bit of skill points into attack. And a difference of close to 200 base stats at such a low level and low amount of allies does not compute... Well I guess if everyone experiences the same thing should be ok, but would like to see some changes...