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Eyelusion
06-25-2012, 09:47 AM
Fellow Crime City Addicts:

I spent $100 on this event so far and every part of me wants to put in just another $20 to get #10 (no guarantees of course). However, I put a limit of $100 on this one with my wife. I can't spend more or she'll delete my app, not because we can't afford it but because she thinks it's turning me into a compulsive gambler, which she can't stand. I agree with her concerns now as I'm having a very difficult time not going over the $100 limit. So, I'm going to hold strong. It's onto cash only now.

It's truly a shame you can spend $100, open up 75 teller machines with gold(1405 gold), buy stamina refills, buy resets and still not get #10.

Your thoughts/feedback on gold/cash and events like this?

Log is posted below:

Day 1

1. Fail (Stamina Refill) (Cash)
2. Card 1/10 (Reset,Gold)
3. Fail (Stamina Refill) (Cash)
4. Card 2/10 (Reset,Gold)
5. Fail (Stamina Refill) (Cash)
6. EU Security Baton (Reset,Gold)
7. Fail (Stamina Refill) (Cash)
8. 25,000 (Gold)
9. 500x RP (Gold)
10. Fail (Cash)
11. Fail (Stamina Refill) (Cash)
12. Card 3/10 (Gold)
13. Card 4/10 (Reset,Gold)
14. Card 5/10 (Reset,Gold)
15. Card 6/10 (Reset,Gold)
16. Card 7/10 (Gold)
17. Card 8/10 (Gold)
18. Carnival Sledgehammer (Gold)
19. 25,000 (Gold)
20. Carnival Sledgehammer (Gold)
21. EU Security Baton (Gold)
22. 500x RP (Gold)
23. 500x RP (Gold)
24. Colonel's Armored Vest (Gold)
25. Colonel's Armored Vest (Gold)

475 Gold Spent - Every Cash a Fail

Day 2

26. Carnival Sledgehammer (Gold)
27. 500x RP (Gold)
28. Carnival Sledgehammer (Gold)
29. 125,000 (Gold)
30. EU Security Baton (Gold)
31. 125,000 (Gold)
32. EU Security Baton (Gold)
33. Colonel's Armored Vest (Gold)
34. 500x RP (Reset,Gold)
35. Colonel's Armored Vest (Reset,Gold)
36. Enhanced Bike (Gold)
37. Colonel's Armored Vest (Gold)
38. EU Security Baton (Reset,Gold)
39. Colonel's Armored Vest (Reset,Gold)
40. 500x RP (Reset,Gold)
41. Colonel's Armored Vest (Reset,Gold)
42. Card 9/10 (Reset,Gold)
43. 125,000 (Gold)
44. 125,000 (Gold)
45. Enhanced Bike (Gold)
46. 500x RP (Gold)
47. EU Security Baton (Gold)
48. Colonel's Armored Vest (Gold)
49. 25,000 (Gold)
50. Colonel's Armored Vest (Gold)
51. Enhanced Bike (Gold)

465 Gold Spent

Total Gold Spent Day 1 and 2 = 940 Total Gold Spent

Day 3

52. EU Security Baton (Gold)
53. 500x RP (Gold)
54. 125,000 (Reset, Gold)
55. 500x RP (Gold)
56. 125,000 (Gold)
57. EU Security Baton (Gold)
58. 500x RP (Gold)
59. 125,000 (Gold)
60. 125,000 (Gold)
61. 500x RP (Gold)
62. 125,000 (Gold)
63. 500x RP (Gold)
64. 125,000 (Gold)
65. EU Security Baton (Gold)
66. Carnival Sledgehammer (Gold)
67. EU Security Baton (Gold)
68. 125,000 (Gold)
69. Enhanced Bike (Gold)
70. EU Security Baton (Gold)
71. 500x RP (Gold)

315 Gold Spent

Total Gold Spent Day 1 thru 3 = 1255 Total Gold Spent

Day 4

72. 500x RP (Gold)
73. 125,000 (Gold)
74. Enhanced Bike (Gold)
75. Carnival Sledgehammer (Gold)
76. Enhanced Bike (Gold)
77. Carnival Sledgehammer (Gold)
78. 500x RP (Gold)
79. Carnival Sledgehammer (Gold)
80. 500x RP (Gold)
81. Enhanced Bike (Gold)

Total Gold Spent Day 1 thru now= 1405 Total Gold Spent

Onto cash:

82. Colonel's Armored Vest (Cash)
83. Fail (Cash)
84. Fail (Cash)
85. Fail (Cash)
86. Fail (Cash)

1 successful cash open on 11 attempts? that's terrible

87. 25,000 (Cash)
88. 500x RP WOOT! (Cash)
89. Colonel's Armored Vest (Cash)
90. Fail (Cash)
91. 125,000 (Cash)
92. 500x RP (Cash)

Now 6 for 12 cash opens on 18 attempts? That's more like it! :)

93. Fail (Cash)

Day 5

94. 25,000 (Cash)
95. 125,000 (Cash)
96. 500x RP (Cash)
97. Fail (Cash)
98. 500x RP (Cash) Not as good as a card, but I'll take these! :)
99. Fail (Cash)

C'mon now. 49 opens since #9. I'm due for card 10!

100. Fail (Cash)
101. Carnival Sledgehammer (Cash)
102. Fail (Cash)
103. Carnival Sledgehammer (Cash)
104. Carnival Sledgehammer (Cash) Um..card please?
105. Fail (Cash)
106. Fail (Cash)
107. Colonel's Armored Vest (Cash)
108. Fail (Cash)

Finish with TapJoy gold:

109. Enhanced Bike (TapJoy Gold)
110. Enhanced Bike (TapJoy Gold)
111. 25,000 (TapJoy Gold)
112. Carnival Sledgehammer (TapJoy Gold)
113. Enhanced Bike (TapJoy Gold)
114. Enhanced Bike (TapJoy Gold)

WTF is up with the EBs? C'mon, 2 more opens, card 10?....

115. 500x RP (TapJoy Gold)
116. Carnival Sledgehammer (TapJoy Gold)

End. Didn't get it. That's an S-Load of opens, almost 100, and 61 opens since card 9.......no card 10. Insane!

Luciferianism
06-25-2012, 09:49 AM
Lolololol.

Paulio
06-25-2012, 09:49 AM
I'm in the same boat as you. Opened 8 the first night, hit #9 the next day and have been going back and forth with cash and gold options. Getting kind of discouraged, but I almost feel committed to getting this one because I've already spent gold on it.

NTM
06-25-2012, 09:54 AM
here i'm on the same way ^^

i have wait Gold sale and event, i spend more than u cuz i buy 2 times Gold and one time money for up something in hood.

i agree at the moment, i don't have spend all gold in event anyway, maybe 1000 or litle under at the moment, im stuck at 9.

that life lol.... but a thing sure like i say on other thread, i'm not near to spend again if i don't got the 10 proof lol.. u don't see... i have pay for many years i think but after that all.

we need luck too not only money ^^

for me that simple i have wait just Gold sale but i put some in event this time, the older event i got 9/7/8/6 all medium option, but look at now same way but Gold using... lol... that a joke ;) but real joke

Babytway
06-25-2012, 10:10 AM
funzio has a mind reading beam imbedded into its games. so it knew you were only goin to spend 100$ and made sure you didn't get the tenth so you can spend more. before you buy gold next time cover your head in aluminum foil and don't look directly at the screen, and raise one leg, that way the beam wont get into you head

BOS
06-25-2012, 10:10 AM
Same thing for me too, except I'm still on # 8... Over 500 gold used since getting #8 and still no #9. I know it's a "gamble" using gold on events, however, I got the Devil's Take Down with 300 gold. Stupid me for expecting the same result with this event. I will not spend gold on future events as this has kinda ruined this game for me...

enahs1
06-25-2012, 10:12 AM
Your problem is your using resets, just use the 15 gold per hour for 100% open, only use resets the last hour or two of the event.c

Nyx
06-25-2012, 10:13 AM
I just can't bring myself to do stamina and energy refills with gold. I've reached my limit with gold opens though, in the past I waited until I reached #9 to start opening with gold but this time I started early and went a bit crazy with a bunch of shivs to show for it. So now I'm back to cash opens. I've come to terms with this event being a wash.

Oh well. :)

andymac106
06-25-2012, 10:13 AM
that sucks spending all this money!

Eyelusion
06-25-2012, 10:21 AM
funzio has a mind reading beam imbedded into its games. so it knew you were only goin to spend 100$ and made sure you didn't get the tenth so you can spend more. before you buy gold next time cover your head in aluminum foil and don't look directly at the screen, and raise one leg, that way the beam wont get into you head

LOL! Feels like it sometimes. :)

Eyelusion
06-25-2012, 10:30 AM
Same thing for me too, except I'm still on # 8... Over 500 gold used since getting #8 and still no #9. I know it's a "gamble" using gold on events, however, I got the Devil's Take Down with 300 gold. Stupid me for expecting the same result with this event. I will not spend gold on future events as this has kinda ruined this game for me...

I hear ya, BOS! It took me 25 opens from 8 to 9 and I used 5 resets that I think helped me to get it. So that's 450 gold (30x15). After 9, it even got more difficult as I got up to 39 opens with 1 reset (600 more gold) with my wife opening all night cause she couldn't sleep. That's 1050 gold since #8 without a #10! Crazy?!?

I almost feel like Crime City is turning me into a compulsive gambler. That's why I'm switching to cash, even if I don't win the item.

What's crazy, is I didn't really want the item this bad to begin with. I would never had thought I would spend $100 to buy gold to get an item that gives me 50% more cash from robberies when I would never spend gold on cash. LOL! I'm crazy...or a Crime City Addict?

Rhino72
06-25-2012, 10:31 AM
Your problem is your using resets, just use the 15 gold per hour for 100% open, only use resets the last hour or two of the event.c

+ 1 above and why are you using stam and energy refills? When you know an event is coming only use 588 energy at a time and hit Ma Sheng or Kane da Silva once (when you sleep hit the boss 2 times). Once the event starts make sure you have a full energy bar to hit either one of those bosses and you usually get 75% box drop rate. Try and rob / attack only people who you think might have been active since the event started so you can hopefully get a few boxes from them.

In day 1 use cash to open the boxes at least until you get 5 (possibly 7). After that you can use gold but the only thing gold guarantees is that the box opens. (Personally, I would guess behind the scenes somehow gold gives a slight increase in the odds but that is just a guess). Yes it sucks that after 75 opens you haven't gotten the event item and this happens to many a person after each event. You are gambling with unseen odds and sadly this is what can happen. Live and learn...

BOS
06-25-2012, 10:41 AM
At this point I would just like to get the Proficient Getaway Car (#9). It would be the most expensive item in my inventory, lol

dudeman
06-25-2012, 10:53 AM
Blowing a c-note and not getting what you wanted, shame on Conzio. Blowing 2+ c-notes and not getting what you wanted, shame on you. That's an expensive lesson that you're not learning.

Why do you think Conzio loves the gambles with no posted odds so much? They know people get addicted to this game, and gambling on unknowns makes them filthy stinkin' rich, that's why. They keep almost everything players want to know about stats and number close to their vests, they won't tell us the odds on events, only that it never becomes a below zero number. That's a lie, or at the very least highly misleading. That number depends on whether or not you can get the boxes to open, and if they reduce the open rate after a certain point then you won't have enough time to open the required number of boxes to play with their 0.x% drop rate.

dudeman
06-25-2012, 10:57 AM
At this point I would just like to get the Proficient Getaway Car (#9). It would be the most expensive item in my inventory, lol

+1

I don't even give half a sh!t about the end prize this event. I just want the vehicle at #9. I stuck on 8 for the emerald burner event, and I stuck on 8 for whatever event it was that had the ammo blaster as the prize for #9. I have made it to 9 or 10 in all other events, so it gets pretty annoying to get stuck at 8 when all you want is 9 and you are normally able to get it.

psxnitro
06-25-2012, 11:02 AM
After getting to 9/10 a day ago, been on a fail open streak using cash, now that I've switched to free option, I'm getting more opens... this event mechanics is bananas...

GazLegend
06-25-2012, 11:04 AM
I've been really lazy and used cash only and opened like 6 per day and I'm on nine

Eyelusion
06-25-2012, 11:04 AM
+1

I don't even give half a sh!t about the end prize this event. I just want the vehicle at #9. I stuck on 8 for the emerald burner event, and I stuck on 8 for whatever event it was that had the ammo blaster as the prize for #9. I have made it to 9 or 10 in all other events, so it gets pretty annoying to get stuck at 8 when all you want is 9 and you are normally able to get it.

+1

I got stuck on 8 the last event and spent about 250 gold during it. I suppose that's why I went ahead with the $100, thinking it would do the trick. Oh well, I did get the car and I do still have a 0.x% chance of getting #10 now, so it's not all so bad, LOL!

DenZ1
06-25-2012, 11:12 AM
Guys, you know you'll get it in the last couple of hours if you keep spending gold.
The problem is you've already spend over your limit. I got Crazy Runner like that. Had to spend about 1,700 gold and got it within 2 hours left. Same with RPG, just spent way much less (about 540g). Got 10th with 3 hours to go.

If you got 8. That's a different story. All bets are off.

G Wiz
06-25-2012, 11:14 AM
I'm stuck on 3 with over 100 opens.

I have been participating in all events thus far though, so this must be the declining success rates i heard about

BOS
06-25-2012, 11:17 AM
I've been really lazy and used cash only and opened like 6 per day and I'm on nine

Hearing this makes me super excited about the gold I've used thus far

John Snow
06-25-2012, 11:20 AM
Fellow Crime City Addicts:
It's truly a shame you can spend $100, open up 75 teller machines with gold(1405 gold), buy stamina refills, buy resets and still not get #10.

Your experience is exactly why Japan's Consumer Affairs Agency started investigating Funzio's parent company Gree last month. There is considerable doubt in Japan whether events like these are actually legal. When the investigation was announced, Gree's stock plunged almost 25%. Not coincidentally, just the week before this investigation was made public, Gree announced its plans to acquire Funzio. I'm not a lawyer, but I'm guessing that the US doesn't have laws expressly prohibiting these kinds of events.

BTW - I have 9, all cash opens.

M00nsh1n3
06-25-2012, 11:30 AM
Yeah I learned not to spent money on events, did early and nothing so extrictly tj gold for events. Save gold for crates from now on.

BOS
06-25-2012, 11:33 AM
BTW - I have 9, all cash opens.

Hearing this makes me even more excited about the gold I've used thus far.

koma
06-25-2012, 11:37 AM
I told my wife that I spent $100 only during Minigun event (+30% cheaper upgrades) but really I have to spend edditiOnal $20 to get it. And I'm sure that I would spend more if needed. I can not stop in the half of the way after spending $100 alreAdy.

And I was really happy when I got the final prize. $20 is nothing when u spent $100 before.

John Snow
06-25-2012, 11:40 AM
Hearing this makes me even more excited about the gold I've used thus far.

Hope this helps: UK - 67, KS - 59

BOS
06-25-2012, 11:45 AM
Hope this helps: UK - 67, KS - 59

Yes!!! Thanks for that! Nothing like a simple box score to bring reality back into focus ;)

Ramshutu
06-25-2012, 12:09 PM
I posted this from another thread about chances and stats of going from 9 to 10:

36 opens for a 50% chance. (4 days with no gold, and 6 hours sleep, or 2 days with 540 gold)
70 opens for a 75% chance. (7 days, 14 hours, or 4 days, 16 hours with 1050 gold)
116 opens for a 90% chance. (13 days 16 hours, 6 days 8 hours with 1740 gold)

From 9 you had 32 opens. This means with that much gold, you had about a 48% chance of obtaining the item.

BOS
06-25-2012, 12:32 PM
I posted this from another thread about chances and stats of going from 9 to 10:

36 opens for a 50% chance. (4 days with no gold, and 6 hours sleep, or 2 days with 540 gold)
70 opens for a 75% chance. (7 days, 14 hours, or 4 days, 16 hours with 1050 gold)
116 opens for a 90% chance. (13 days 16 hours, 6 days 8 hours with 1740 gold)

From 9 you had 32 opens. This means with that much gold, you had about a 48% chance of obtaining the item.

So you are saying with 35 gold opens just trying to go from 8-9, that I should just stop the bleeding? Lol, I'm fcuked.

Ramshutu
06-25-2012, 12:50 PM
So you are saying with 35 gold opens just trying to go from 8-9, that I should just stop the bleeding? Lol, I'm fcuked.

It depends, from the information on the last couple of events, the chances of getting item #10, (not including 8-9) is considerably less than hitting a single number on a roulette table.

7rs60
06-25-2012, 01:21 PM
I just can't bring myself to do stamina and energy refills with gold. I've reached my limit with gold opens though, in the past I waited until I reached #9 to start opening with gold but this time I started early and went a bit crazy with a bunch of shivs to show for it. So now I'm back to cash opens. I've come to terms with this event being a wash.

Oh well. :)

How was it a wash? Sounds like you spent a bunch of gold and lost it. :confused:

pluxfan2
06-25-2012, 01:38 PM
It may be the way you are approaching the event which is why you are stuck on 9.

I think there is a combination to open up the 10th. ie rob get a debit card, if it doesnt open try a pvp, then maybe a double hit on the maps. I havent discovered what it is, but my feeling is there some method to open up the 10th. I have 4 of the event items. Though Funzio may change this combination with each event, there was method which I used to get the Midas Gun which I got. I tried it with the others but failed so it may change.

I know someone who spent a lot of gold but didnt get the 10th item, they just did pvp and done the map's (ma sheng).

I think you have to include rob and jobs in the combination. (Though I could be wrong).I know there are players who seem to get the 10th item all the time, maybe they may wish to enlighten us a little.

pluxfan2
06-25-2012, 01:41 PM
Because people spend a fortune on some events I stick to cash only now (which I have done since the 4th event) and usually get to 9 with the occasional 10th.

Nyx
06-25-2012, 01:45 PM
How was it a wash? Sounds like you spent a bunch of gold and lost it. :confused:

Lost it? It's not officially lost until the event ends but I'm calling the event a wash for me because I don't think I have much chance of getting 9 & 10, so I'm back to cash opens. :)

Eyelusion
06-25-2012, 01:47 PM
It depends, from the information on the last couple of events, the chances of getting item #10, (not including 8-9) is considerably less than hitting a single number on a roulette table.

Rational posts like this don't help my emotional decision making process much, LOL!

Eyelusion
06-25-2012, 01:50 PM
I told my wife that I spent $100 only during Minigun event (+30% cheaper upgrades) but really I have to spend edditiOnal $20 to get it. And I'm sure that I would spend more if needed. I can not stop in the half of the way after spending $100 alreAdy.

And I was really happy when I got the final prize. $20 is nothing when u spent $100 before.

If it was just up to me I would send until I got it. Especially because I've spent $100 already. My wife is my rational stopping point.

Ramshutu
06-25-2012, 01:50 PM
Rational posts like this don't help my emotional decision making process much, LOL!

Sorry.

When you open the 10th item, a portal will open to hades and suck in the entire world, the population of which will be forced to watch reruns of Chips and the Cosby show whilst being force fed coffee flavoured revels and whipped with stinging nettles by singing midgets.

Hence funzio has coded specifically so you don't obtain the item. Don't do it.

buddylee
06-25-2012, 01:54 PM
funzio has a mind reading beam imbedded into its games. so it knew you were only goin to spend 100$ and made sure you didn't get the tenth so you can spend more. before you buy gold next time cover your head in aluminum foil and don't look directly at the screen, and raise one leg, that way the beam wont get into you head

Priceless - All I can picture is Joaquin Phoenix in the movie "Signs".

Eyelusion
06-25-2012, 02:02 PM
Now for this event, I'm 1 out of 11 on opens on cash attempts. I would think the odds of getting #10 with this low of opening rate is pretty much .000000000000000001%?

I hate gambling!

Joe Brown1
06-25-2012, 02:13 PM
Eyelusion, all I can say is that if that if someone from Gree contacts you and offers you more gold to open boxes if you will "go out on some dates with their friends" . . . DON'T;)

Robin Hood
06-25-2012, 02:20 PM
Hope this helps: UK - 67, KS - 59

+abillion

C-A-T-S cats Cats CATS!

Eyelusion
06-25-2012, 02:21 PM
Eyelusion, all I can say is that if that if someone from Gree contacts you and offers you more gold to open boxes if you will "go out on some dates with their friends" . . . DON'T;)

But, what if they say she has a "great personality"? I'm assuming it would be a she :p

Joe Brown1
06-25-2012, 02:28 PM
But, what if they say she has a "great personality"? I'm assuming it would be a she :p

You go with that assumption, when Ben Dover shows up on your doorstep for his date, well - you will know who sent him. BTW, has Mr. Dover been the one sellingf you all that gold to open the ATMs?;)

Eyelusion
06-25-2012, 02:43 PM
I posted this from another thread about chances and stats of going from 9 to 10:

36 opens for a 50% chance. (4 days with no gold, and 6 hours sleep, or 2 days with 540 gold)
70 opens for a 75% chance. (7 days, 14 hours, or 4 days, 16 hours with 1050 gold)
116 opens for a 90% chance. (13 days 16 hours, 6 days 8 hours with 1740 gold)

From 9 you had 32 opens. This means with that much gold, you had about a 48% chance of obtaining the item.

Okay Ramshutu,

How does this work out now? I have 41 opens since 9 (39 gold, 2 cash). Do my odds move up to 55% or does the cash bring those odds crashing to a hault? My current cash open rate is not the best sample with just 2 out of 12 opens in this event.

Further yet, don't the odds reset after every open, meaning my odds each time are the same as that "...less than a roulette table"?

X TT X
06-25-2012, 02:56 PM
Out the 10th after 2 days - cash only!
I've found that if your doing missions and you get a teller machine drop, you open it straight away, only 23 tellers opened for my 10th debit card!
It's all random I know, the last 2 or 3 events I've been stuck on 8 but I got this 1 done no problem 

Ramshutu
06-25-2012, 02:59 PM
Okay Ramshutu,

How does this work out now? I have 41 opens since 9 (39 gold, 2 cash). Do my odds move up to 55% or does the cash bring those odds crashing to a hault? My current cash open rate is not the best sample with just 2 out of 12 opens in this event.

Further yet, don't the odds reset after every open, meaning my odds each time are the same as that "...less than a roulette table"?

This is where stats gets a bit weird, so be prepared. The math train is about to pull out of the station.

The odds to get 10 seem to be 2%. This means each open you get a 1/50 chance of getting the tenth item. This means ON AVERAGE you will need 50 opens to get the item.

But, there is no memory, it's not like pulling cards out of a deck that as you pull more and more out, the chances get better. This is like trying to pull out the ace of spades, if you don't get it, the card goes back in and the deck is shuffled.

The thing that will really make you sad, is that whether you have opened 1 item, or 10000, the odds are still 2%. Which means that even if you have opened 36 boxes, the chances of you getting the item in those next 36 boxes is still only a bit under 50%. If you don't get it after those 36, if you open another 36 boxes the chances are still 50%. The thing is that youd have to be pretty unlucky to flip ten heads in a row, and so if you treated 72 and 104 boxes as a group, the overall chances of going the drop is increased. But at any point, if you don't have the item, the next 36 boxes have the same chance as a toss of a coin.

Eyelusion
06-25-2012, 03:00 PM
Out the 10th after 2 days - cash only!
I've found that if your doing missions and you get a teller machine drop, you open it straight away, only 23 tellers opened for my 10th debit card!
It's all random I know, the last 2 or 3 events I've been stuck on 8 but I got this 1 done no problem 

Grats X TT X!

I must be close with 41 opens since 9? *sigh* I want that damn corpse grinder!

outbackhat
06-25-2012, 03:05 PM
Same boat and not gonna buy again till after I have first 8, got them day1. Real bummer is when I stop and think of what I could of have got for the gold at the store. Just want bonus and uniqueness of event items, it's a disease.

Eyelusion
06-25-2012, 03:11 PM
Same boat and not gonna buy again till after I have first 8, got them day1. Real bummer is when I stop and think of what I could of have got for the gold at the store. Just want bonus and uniqueness of event items, it's a disease.

I hear that. I keep thinking what I could have gotten from crates to up my poor attack rate at just 39.5k without explosives at level 187. I probably could have increased it by close to 2k and that would've definitely helped.

Hindsight is 20/20. I'm in $100 now. Grrr...

Eyelusion
06-25-2012, 04:43 PM
This is where stats gets a bit weird, so be prepared. The math train is about to pull out of the station.

The odds to get 10 seem to be 2%. This means each open you get a 1/50 chance of getting the tenth item. This means ON AVERAGE you will need 50 opens to get the item.

But, there is no memory, it's not like pulling cards out of a deck that as you pull more and more out, the chances get better. This is like trying to pull out the ace of spades, if you don't get it, the card goes back in and the deck is shuffled.

The thing that will really make you sad, is that whether you have opened 1 item, or 10000, the odds are still 2%. Which means that even if you have opened 36 boxes, the chances of you getting the item in those next 36 boxes is still only a bit under 50%. If you don't get it after those 36, if you open another 36 boxes the chances are still 50%. The thing is that youd have to be pretty unlucky to flip ten heads in a row, and so if you treated 72 and 104 boxes as a group, the overall chances of going the drop is increased. But at any point, if you don't have the item, the next 36 boxes have the same chance as a toss of a coin.

I think I'm following you. So, I just literally flipped a quarter 10 times and got 7 heads and 3 tails. So if heads are my fails and tails are my opens, then not only do I have to get opens, but then I still have to beat the open reward odds? Is this how it gets to 2% or is 2% for gold?

Eyelusion
06-25-2012, 05:13 PM
I told my wife that I spent $100 only during Minigun event (+30% cheaper upgrades) but really I have to spend edditiOnal $20 to get it. And I'm sure that I would spend more if needed. I can not stop in the half of the way after spending $100 alreAdy.

And I was really happy when I got the final prize. $20 is nothing when u spent $100 before.

So, you got the 10th after being $100 in by spending $20 more and you're really happy? Would you have spent another $20 if you were still on 9 after that last $20? That's what my wife keeps asking me....and using words like compulsive, obsessive, gambler, disorder, etc, etc....I can keep going... :)

dudeman
06-25-2012, 05:20 PM
So, you got the 10th after being $100 in by spending $20 more and you're really happy? Would you have spent another $20 if you were still on 9 after that last $20? That's what my wife keeps asking me....and using words like compulsive, obsessive, gambler, disorder, etc, etc....I can keep going... :)

You could think of it like this. Right now you spent $100 on garbage. If you keep spending, the prize will just end up being more expensive than you had hoped in the beginning. Total waste and maybe a lesson learned vs. partial waste and maybe a lesson learned. You say hindsight is 20/20, but if you learn nothing it's closer to 0/20. :p

BOS
06-25-2012, 05:26 PM
+abillion

C-A-T-S cats Cats CATS!

+ 2 billion

OHhhh, C-A-T-S, CATS CATS CATS!!!

Lloyd~
06-25-2012, 07:14 PM
Only spent gold on events once.. almost 500 gold and getting only 1 with tyre. I rather spend the gold getting crates, at least i got 4 rare items on 350gold.. rather than some lame sledgehammer or vest and tonnes of frustration and dashed hopes.

NTM
06-25-2012, 07:47 PM
Well ! finally i got it ! just now the last teller work it !

:p spending 1000 Gold so !

Eyelusion
06-25-2012, 08:00 PM
Lucky, lucky NTM! Enjoy your corpse grinder! *cries*

Dangerous Dan
06-25-2012, 08:10 PM
I think it's a waste unless spent towards crates and other items that hold spenders spend on. I'm stuck on 9 and have been since early.....shocker.

Don't do it. Buy a tennis court or something. Better ROI.


👍

mnju_03
06-25-2012, 09:56 PM
Fellow Crime City Addicts:

I spent $100 on this event so far and every part of me wants to put in just another $20 to get #10 (no guarantees of course). However, I put a limit of $100 on this one with my wife. I can't spend more or she'll delete my app, not because we can't afford it but because she thinks it's turning me into a compulsive gambler, which she can't stand. I agree with her concerns now as I'm having a very difficult time not going over the $100 limit. So, I'm going to hold strong. It's onto cash only now.

It's truly a shame you can spend $100, open up 75 teller machines with gold(1405 gold), buy stamina refills, buy resets and still not get #10.

Your thoughts/feedback on gold/cash and events like this?

Log is posted below:

Day 1

1. Fail (Stamina Refill) (Cash)
2. Card 1/10 (Reset,Gold)
3. Fail (Stamina Refill) (Cash)
4. Card 2/10 (Reset,Gold)
5. Fail (Stamina Refill) (Cash)
6. EU Security Baton (Reset,Gold)
7. Fail (Stamina Refill) (Cash)
8. 25,000 (Gold)
9. 500x RP (Gold)
10. Fail (Cash)
11. Fail (Stamina Refill) (Cash)
12. Card 3/10 (Gold)
13. Card 4/10 (Reset,Gold)
14. Card 5/10 (Reset,Gold)
15. Card 6/10 (Reset,Gold)
16. Card 7/10 (Gold)
17. Card 8/10 (Gold)
18. Carnival Sledgehammer (Gold)
19. 25,000 (Gold)
20. Carnival Sledgehammer (Gold)
21. EU Security Baton (Gold)
22. 500x RP (Gold)
23. 500x RP (Gold)
24. Colonel's Armored Vest (Gold)
25. Colonel's Armored Vest (Gold)

475 Gold Spent - Every Cash a Fail

Day 2

26. Carnival Sledgehammer (Gold)
27. 500x RP (Gold)
28. Carnival Sledgehammer (Gold)
29. 125,000 (Gold)
30. EU Security Baton (Gold)
31. 125,000 (Gold)
32. EU Security Baton (Gold)
33. Colonel's Armored Vest (Gold)
34. 500x RP (Reset,Gold)
35. Colonel's Armored Vest (Reset,Gold)
36. Enhanced Bike (Gold)
37. Colonel's Armored Vest (Gold)
38. EU Security Baton (Reset,Gold)
39. Colonel's Armored Vest (Reset,Gold)
40. 500x RP (Reset,Gold)
41. Colonel's Armored Vest (Reset,Gold)
42. Card 9/10 (Reset,Gold)
43. 125,000 (Gold)
44. 125,000 (Gold)
45. Enhanced Bike (Gold)
46. 500x RP (Gold)
47. EU Security Baton (Gold)
48. Colonel's Armored Vest (Gold)
49. 25,000 (Gold)
50. Colonel's Armored Vest (Gold)
51. Enhanced Bike (Gold)

465 Gold Spent

Total Gold Spent Day 1 and 2 = 940 Total Gold Spent

Day 3

52. EU Security Baton (Gold)
53. 500x RP (Gold)
54. 125,000 (Reset, Gold)
55. 500x RP (Gold)
56. 125,000 (Gold)
57. EU Security Baton (Gold)
58. 500x RP (Gold)
59. 125,000 (Gold)
60. 125,000 (Gold)
61. 500x RP (Gold)
62. 125,000 (Gold)
63. 500x RP (Gold)
64. 125,000 (Gold)
65. EU Security Baton (Gold)
66. Carnival Sledgehammer (Gold)
67. EU Security Baton (Gold)
68. 125,000 (Gold)
69. Enhanced Bike (Gold)
70. EU Security Baton (Gold)
71. 500x RP (Gold)

315 Gold Spent

Total Gold Spent Day 1 thru 3 = 1255 Total Gold Spent

Day 4

72. 500x RP (Gold)
73. 125,000 (Gold)
74. Enhanced Bike (Gold)
75. Carnival Sledgehammer (Gold)
76. Enhanced Bike (Gold)
77. Carnival Sledgehammer (Gold)
78. 500x RP (Gold)
79. Carnival Sledgehammer (Gold)
80. 500x RP (Gold)
81. Enhanced Bike (Gold)

Total Gold Spent Day 1 thru now= 1405 Total Gold Spent

Onto cash:

82. Colonel's Armored Vest (Cash)
83. Fail (Cash)
84. Fail (Cash)
85. Fail (Cash)
86. Fail (Cash)

1 successful cash open on 11 attempts? that's terrible

87. 25,000 (Cash)
88. 500x RP WOOT! (Cash)
89. Colonel's Armored Vest (Cash)
90. Fail (Cash)
91. 125,000 (Cash)
92. 500x RP (Cash)

Now 6 for 12 cash opens on 18 attempts? That's more like it! :)

93. Fail (Cash)
94. 87. 25,000 (Cash)

Dude, clearly you suck...



Mad bro?

one man gang
06-25-2012, 10:21 PM
Only spent gold on events once.. almost 500 gold and getting only 1 with tyre. I rather spend the gold getting crates, at least i got 4 rare items on 350gold.. rather than some lame sledgehammer or vest and tonnes of frustration and dashed hopes.

Crates are where its at!!!! I decided I wanted that Prototype Racer today and ended up with 3 (not all in the one open, if that happened I would upload pictures) lo

Ramshutu
06-25-2012, 11:15 PM
I think I'm following you. So, I just literally flipped a quarter 10 times and got 7 heads and 3 tails. So if heads are my fails and tails are my opens, then not only do I have to get opens, but then I still have to beat the open reward odds? Is this how it gets to 2% or is 2% for gold?

2% is the stat assuming a successful open. So it's 1% including 'fails'

Eyelusion
06-25-2012, 11:18 PM
2% is the stat assuming a successful open. So it's 1% including 'fails'

You bring about as good of news as a Vulcan nerve pinch. :p

Nudie
06-25-2012, 11:22 PM
I feel for you bro. I've been sitting on 9 for a couple of days now. Zero gold used and I do not have the slightest desire to use any gold. I got gold-burnt in an earlier event and vowed never again. LOL.
Good luck and hope you get #10 soon. :o

Eyelusion
06-26-2012, 01:44 AM
I'm starting to panic! Less than 1 day left and I'm opening about 50% with cash. Probably only get 10 more opens? *panic*

I had 9 cards at the weee hours of the morning on the 2nd day. Sheesh...one helluva tough #10 this time!

NTM
06-26-2012, 01:56 AM
I'm starting to panic! Less than 1 day left and I'm opening about 50% with cash. Probably only get 10 more opens? *panic*

I had 9 cards at the weee hours of the morning on the 2nd day. Sheesh...one helluva tough #10 this time!

yeah i know ... :p

before i got the 10 i'm on sofa and sleeping lol.. so i miss 4 opening i think maybe and only 1 teller on account, maybe try that ? wait 2 times before opening and try with only one in account ? dunno.. hope u got like me this night !

the screen :

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7341/sc20120626043930.th.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/sc20120626043930.jpg/) http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/269/sc20120626043936.th.jpg (http://img405.imageshack.us/i/sc20120626043936.jpg/)

Eyelusion
06-26-2012, 10:16 AM
yeah i know ... :p

before i got the 10 i'm on sofa and sleeping lol.. so i miss 4 opening i think maybe and only 1 teller on account, maybe try that ? wait 2 times before opening and try with only one in account ? dunno.. hope u got like me this night !

the screen :
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7341/sc20120626043930.th.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/sc20120626043930.jpg/) http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/269/sc20120626043936.th.jpg (http://img405.imageshack.us/i/sc20120626043936.jpg/)


I feel like I can't miss even one or I might miss my chance now. I attempted to open one every hour all night and just have today to try to get it now.

It's crazy to know you have 9 and are spending a lot of gold, but still can't get to 10 even with 52 opens after getting 9 and still having 3 days and approximately 8 hours left in a 5 day event. This is pretty crazy.

I heard of a few players I know who got 10 last night and also this morning, so I know it's happening.

Is anyone else out there that has been stuck at 9 for this long or close?

dudeman
06-26-2012, 10:38 AM
Stuck at 8 since day two, Eyelusion, and all I want this event is to get 9. Not a single box has opened for me today, and the last 5 last night were sealed shut too. I've got 61 bags of garbage littering my hood now. 1 bag for each fail this event. I'm sure I will hit 72 again, as three days worth of being told fcuk you with these events has become quite common for me.

And I don't even want 10 a little bit this time. 9, that's it! I think it's not going to happen though.

Primal
06-26-2012, 12:28 PM
I'm no lawyer but I believe what they are doing is illegal. It is supposed to be a game of chance, you have a percentage chance of winning based upon how many opens you attempt. With the gold you open many more than others. So the game is rigged, especially towards those that do spend money on gold. If that's the case then I'm sure this would fall j Fet the gambling laws, in which it would be illegal to what they do. I have only won one of these so far, I do buy gold and spend money on this game. you'd think I would have won more then that so far.

DenZ1
06-26-2012, 12:33 PM
I feel like I can't miss even one or I might miss my chance now. I attempted to open one every hour all night and just have today to try to get it now.

It's crazy to know you have 9 and are spending a lot of gold, but still can't get to 10 even with 52 opens after getting 9 and still having 3 days and approximately 8 hours left in a 5 day event. This is pretty crazy.

I heard of a few players I know who got 10 last night and also this morning, so I know it's happening.

Is anyone else out there that has been stuck at 9 for this long or close?

*Raises both hands*

9 for me. Patiently waiting for last several hours, though chances to get it last minute is not THAT overly optimistic :)

Ramshutu
06-26-2012, 12:44 PM
I'm no lawyer but I believe what they are doing is illegal. It is supposed to be a game of chance, you have a percentage chance of winning based upon how many opens you attempt. With the gold you open many more than others. So the game is rigged, especially towards those that do spend money on gold. If that's the case then I'm sure this would fall j Fet the gambling laws, in which it would be illegal to what they do. I have only won one of these so far, I do buy gold and spend money on this game. you'd think I would have won more then that so far.

It's not illegal, or at least if it is, it is down to an interpretation of existing laws that aren't explicitly covering this type of thing. The issue with this type of thing is that as the percentages and chances are hidden and not published. This creates a false expectation of likelihood, in that players assume that prize is easier to get than it is, and are drawn into spending more money incrementally.

GazLegend
06-26-2012, 12:45 PM
Is anyone else out there that has been stuck at 9 for this long or close?

I'm on cash and had 9 after day two, only opening 6/7 on the first two days just got really lucky. But since then I've been opening 16 per day and not got tenth

PawnXIIX
06-26-2012, 12:55 PM
I'm sorry eyelusion but you had to see this coming:




Screw it! This event is a bust. I'm not wasting anymore gold on these events any longer. No more gold on any event from me going forward. Way to go Funzio/GREE!

40 gold opens...total wasted gold = 640 (includes gold used to reset energy to start due to no notice)

Winner for me spending that gold = Funzio/GREE. Winner going forward for not spending anymore = Me. I win!

You said you weren't going to spend any more :P

Eyelusion
06-26-2012, 01:13 PM
PawnXIIX,

I appreciate your message and you're right. Shame on GREE for the first one. Shame on me for this one. I admit I got pulled in hard on this one. I had no intention to spend $100, as stated earlier, but got pulled in the more I spent. Am I already an addict?

No more gold on any events for sure this time. I've truly learned my lesson on these events...the hard way. *sigh* Here's hoping for a miracle to get the card with a cash open with only 8 opens left? I'll feel even worse if I don't come out with 10 after sitting on 9 with 3 days and 8 hour left.

Besides, I have to sell this game to my wife if I want to spend money like that on it. My experience hasn't sold her on a reason why she should agree to let me spend on events. Crates only I suppose...maybe not there too? I dunno. Feeling deflated about this right now.

Good luck to those with hope!

DenZ1
06-26-2012, 01:16 PM
I'm sorry eyelusion but you had to see this coming:



You said you weren't going to spend any more :P

Everybody makes that statement :) And then come back and spent more...

Its addictive.. Its gambling... Its a crime.. city :)

DenZ1
06-26-2012, 01:18 PM
PawnXIIX,

I appreciate your message and you're right. Shame on GREE for the first one. Shame on me for this one. I admit I got pulled in hard on this one. I had no intention to spend $100, as stated earlier, but got pulled in the more I spent. Am I already an addict?

No more gold on any events for sure this time. I've truly learned my lesson on these events...the hard way. *sigh* Here's hoping for a miracle to get the card with a cash open with only 8 opens left? I'll feel even worse if I don't come out with 10 after sitting on 9 with 3 days and 8 hour left.

Besides, I have to sell this game to my wife if I want to spend money like that on it. My experience hasn't sold her on a reason why she should agree to let me spend on events. Crates only I suppose...maybe not there too? I dunno. Feeling deflated about this right now.

Good luck to those with hope!

Just don't stop now. The chances you get it during last hours are pretty decent (not mathematicaly though :) ).
Just dont use resets over and over.. That'll kill ya :) Throw in a couple to get more chances.

Los Angel
06-26-2012, 01:24 PM
I don't like using gold but it seems like you have to in order to get the 9th and 10th debit card :(
Good luck to all!

Second Comming
06-26-2012, 01:42 PM
Thumbs up

I don't like using gold but it seems like you have to in order to get the 9th and 10th debit card
Good luck to all!

Second that >.<

Eyelusion
06-26-2012, 04:21 PM
120 TapJoy Gold to finish this off with 8 opens. Let's see if 10 can happen.

Best of luck to great finishes for everyone!

Ripper
06-26-2012, 04:30 PM
I don't like using gold but it seems like you have to in order to get the 9th and 10th debit card :(
Good luck to all!

Not really. It took me just over two days and about 2 and half dozen attempts to get 10th card.

Probably lucky and that won`t happen in every event, who cares. I can find better use of real money.

Eyelusion
06-26-2012, 09:49 PM
Only 2 opens left. Who's getting 9 or 10 lately? I still don't have 10. Is it still possible?

Mr BigBenga
06-26-2012, 09:55 PM
Only 2 opens left. Who's getting 9 or 10 lately? I still don't have 10. Is it still possible?

dudeman got the last tire on the last open if im not wrong.

dudeman
06-26-2012, 10:06 PM
dudeman got the last tire on the last open if im not wrong.

True, there was just over 2 minutes left on the timer. I've never seen anyone have a random stroke of last chance luck like that, or at least no one who said anything about it.

I'm done at 9 this time though. I have never received items 9 and 10 both on the last day. I have had 9 and 10 come both on the same day before, but never on the last day.

Eyelusion
06-26-2012, 10:25 PM
One open left.....I'm putting it all on black!

*Drum Roll**************...........

Eyelusion
06-26-2012, 11:21 PM
Nope. Didn't get it.

97 Opens on 116 Attempts.

61 Opens after opening card 9 and no card 10. Terrible!

PawnXIIX
06-26-2012, 11:28 PM
I read through everything and I thought "I'm the only one who saw him post that on the tire event? ._."

But yeah I mean, cut your losses... :P

Paulio
06-26-2012, 11:38 PM
F this event.

Eyelusion
06-26-2012, 11:40 PM
I read through everything and I thought "I'm the only one who saw him post that on the tire event? ._."

But yeah I mean, cut your losses... :P

Haha! I appreciate the reminder. Oh, how real the feeling is after this mess. Live and learn....live and learn....

Eyelusion
06-26-2012, 11:40 PM
F this event.

Ditto! :mad:

TRAZ
06-27-2012, 01:44 AM
Sorry to hear you didn't get it. I stayed at 9 for three days and didn't budge from there either...lol....awesomeness....wohoo.

When's the next event so I can do it again? :)

PawnXIIX
06-27-2012, 01:50 AM
I didn't even try and I got 8. I spent 0 gold and how do I feel?


Successful :)

JuSt.SiCk
06-27-2012, 05:11 AM
Same here, got 8 and used no Gold. Got tons of cash respect in the end.

Hed
06-27-2012, 06:17 AM
Same here, Just ingame cash used.

I am still running in overtime, but stuck on 8 cards for the last three days..

ETA: damn it, posting here seemed to crash CC...

dudeman
06-27-2012, 06:34 AM
Same here, Just ingame cash used.

I am still running in overtime, but stuck on 8 cards for the last three days..

ETA: damn it, posting here seemed to crash CC...

If you're running an event in overtime, farting will crash CC.

Hed
06-27-2012, 07:09 AM
oh well :)

Atleast i got a few bits and bobs while it held out.

Don Clyde
06-27-2012, 07:13 AM
I had 34 boxes with 3 hours left using cash only, and I got my first 10th item ever.
I now don't feel it's rigged.
In game cash from now on only!

Eyelusion
06-27-2012, 07:19 AM
I had 34 boxes with 3 hours left using cash only, and I got my first 10th item ever.
I now don't feel it's rigged.
In game cash from now on only!

I've heard more Players winning with cash on the last day than gold. The only one I heard late in the day on gd had to do 14 gold resets along with it (14x15x15=420 gold).

There must be more gold winners in the last few hours?

montecore
06-27-2012, 05:23 PM
My feedback is this: I hope you learned your lesson. I learned mine in the last event... if you had spent 1000 on gold I wouldn't have been surprised to see you not get it.

Funzio will never get another dime from me on any of these events. I am still playing in overtime and will spend in game cash but any gold I purchase is going towards crates. I completely got suckered in the last one and assumed that the last 2 would be as easy as the first 8.

Lesson learned.