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NTM
07-21-2012, 05:13 AM
on Title, i finish Gold and delete game, that a complete fraud trust me.

the a real shame and with this u can see how Funzio make money.. event are not for fun but for lost money ( real ) the luck is fake word, u don't need luck u need money only.. on my camper account i fail all... 2 day all fail ? that what they call luck maybe.... fraud again...

i have use reset yes but always got a crap item, there is not Nitro inside.. that a fraud from Funzio.

i contact my bank monday.

i'm not angry for event but the rate is just a fraud, all is make for spend money on Gold, more and more.. that a fraud.

QPR
07-21-2012, 05:22 AM
Contact your bank for what exactly?

QPR
07-21-2012, 05:24 AM
That's about 50 gbp lol

Daniel2115
07-21-2012, 05:27 AM
Wat are you going to call your bank for? Cause you spent money on a gamble and didn't win? Sound like a sore loser to me

Tissues
07-21-2012, 05:28 AM
Did you get fail on the same box more than five times? How many reset did you do? Why did you not economise your Gold and just open with Gold on the hour? Do you need a Tissue?

QPR
07-21-2012, 05:28 AM
Wat are you going to call your bank for? Cause you spent money on a gamble and didn't win? Sound like a sore loser to me

Exactly. Bit late for contacting a bank lol

QPR
07-21-2012, 05:29 AM
" do you need a tissue "

Lol

NTM
07-21-2012, 05:30 AM
if i don't write anything about bank don't ask ;) that easy to understand !

anyway u can see the rate of Nitro inside box, that the thread :)

QPR
07-21-2012, 05:31 AM
Priceless thread

You still popping over from Paris?

NTM
07-21-2012, 05:33 AM
Did you get fail on the same box more than five times? How many reset did you do? Why did you not economise your Gold and just open with Gold on the hour? Do you need a Tissue?

i have try reset or normal use all hours, same result always crap item or 10 k cash.. 300 rp... but no Nitro. only 4 with 900 gold... i don't care about money realy but there is a problem i think..

30 reset = 450 gold
30 High chance : 450 Gold

on this i got 4 Nitro.

Tissues
07-21-2012, 05:34 AM
Hello Mr Nitro Theif Man, i am calling from your Bank, we can see from your tranaction list that you are requesting a stop payment to GREE INC, can you confirm the amount and State a reason for the Stop?

Mr NTM:

NTM
07-21-2012, 05:35 AM
Exactly. Bit late for contacting a bank lol

not realy :) u dont know how to have a refund ? that easy, try to find i'm sure u find ;)

QPR
07-21-2012, 05:36 AM
Hello Mr Nitro Theif Man, i am calling from your Bank, we can see from your tranaction list that you are requesting a stop payment to GREE INC, can you confirm the amount and State a reason for the Stop?

Mr NTM:

That's quality mate

Ntm?

Tissues
07-21-2012, 05:56 AM
Instead of "Better Luck Next Time - BLNT"
It should be "Nothing There Mate - NTM"

QPR
07-21-2012, 06:00 AM
Instead of "Better Luck Next Time - BLNT"
It should be "Nothing There Mate - NTM"

Loving the banter !!

xXSycoXx
07-21-2012, 06:07 AM
this is one reason i dont spend gold on events any more

wasn't to bad on old style you could use cash to get to 8 or 9 and finish with gold and 9 times out of 10 got the 10th
without using much gold but this new style is just money grabbing

Euchred
07-21-2012, 06:26 AM
I'd would go as far to say that 900 gold spent on the old style event going for 10 would give you a solid chance.(If spread out properly)Sounds like this guy got fukced by the RNG but still it's always a possibility. If you don't want to get burnt don't spend.

swood
07-21-2012, 06:39 AM
Funzio are making a killing from these events, and i don't blame them. Very clever way of making money. I've only spent 15 total i believe, probs won't spend any more. After all, it's just a game that i'll probs get bored of after a month or so, so there's not really any point. But the bank won't refund you the money mate. I'm afraid your stuck with the debt

Khayman
07-21-2012, 06:51 AM
I spent 4500 golds in the last item of the event with the "free banking item" and failed hard.

If you lie me is your fault, if you lie me a second time is my fault. Stop crying and don't waste your money in events, that's all i have to say.

NTM
07-21-2012, 06:56 AM
that not the thread, lie or not.

i talk ABOUT RATE not only for who buy gold, that nto the thread ! i talk about rate Nitro.

Tissues don't lie and look he got 18 Nitro all cash option, 20 fails and 10 loot :) nice no ? who lie ? lol.. in england we have many liar maybe i don't know :)

i need muney
07-21-2012, 07:48 AM
If you commit a chargeback through your bank directly, you're Apple ID will most likely be locked.
Might want to contact Apple via Expresslane https://expresslane.apple.com/GetproductgroupList.action?locale=fr_FR
But it is your fault of gambling.

<3 Hz
07-21-2012, 07:51 AM
Yeah, even a vault of gold won't guarantee anything. Wasn't there someone that bought as much as 15,000 gold on one of these events & they didn't even end up in the top 250?

Max Power
07-21-2012, 07:54 AM
Instead of "Better Luck Next Time - BLNT"
It should be "Nothing There Mate - NTM"

I am liking you more and more....LOL!

NTM
07-21-2012, 07:57 AM
If you commit a chargeback through your bank directly, you're Apple ID will most likely be locked.
Might want to contact Apple via Expresslane https://expresslane.apple.com/GetproductgroupList.action?locale=fr_FR
But it is your fault of gambling.

i don't come for cry because i spend money Bro.

i cry about rate.. anyway i don't get apple id, but monday i delete game and my money come soon.

i don't use my real ip for play ;) or here :p (i think some one hack me my wifi and my credit card !)

QPR
07-21-2012, 08:02 AM
i don't come for cry because i spend money Bro.

i cry about rate.. anyway i don't get apple id, but monday i delete game and my money come soon.

i don't use my real ip for play ;) or here :p (i think some one hack me my wifi and my credit card !)


It's called karma and to be fair you come across as a simpleton if you think your bank is going to refund you for gambling

Seriously grow a pair a stop biatching about it

Boom
07-21-2012, 08:04 AM
Gambling is stupid. Now uve learned ur lesson

NTM
07-21-2012, 08:08 AM
It's called karma and to be fair you come across as a simpleton if you think your bank is going to refund you for gambling

Seriously grow a pair a stop biatching about it

liar :)

u come and flam me on thread and now u cry ? look at the first answer in this thread, don't start next time.. liar...

go to hell u and ur friend are just some english liar, that all.

NTM
07-21-2012, 08:11 AM
it's called a KARMA :D

hey man .. stop to smoke.. or start i don't know.. but serious... KARMA ? or CHEAT ? or LIAR ?

keep ur karma i don't need..

NTM
07-21-2012, 08:15 AM
the luck is 0% in this event.. that why i know QPR is out of brain, i'm sure now..

u think Funzio give items with 630 or more power for cash option ? lol.. OMG... u smoke good u...

so... last event i make 20 all cash options and i don't miss many opening, and ? i got only 20 at the last hours, maybe 2 hours if i remenber..

anyway i'm more tired to ur ass like the game trust me.. i have tell u man if u have any problem 'im open to see u, real life i talk, we see if u talk so much and insult or kidding me like now...

QPR
07-21-2012, 08:17 AM
the luck is 0% in this event.. that why i know QPR is out of brain, i'm sure now..

u think Funzio give items with 630 or more power for cash option ? lol.. OMG... u smoke good u...

so... last event i make 20 all cash options and i don't miss many opening, and ? i got only 20 at the last hours, maybe 2 hours if i remenber..

anyway i'm more tired to ur ass like the game trust me.. i have tell u man if u have any problem 'im open to see u, real life i talk, we see if u talk so much and insult or kidding me like now...

I have 12 nitros all cash option no rl money spent xxx

NTM
07-21-2012, 08:17 AM
I am liking you more and more....LOL!

u like liar , i predict a poor real life for u too so. or short life.. liar don't go realy anywhere.. but finish at cimetary for 99% of time ;)

Max Power
07-21-2012, 08:19 AM
u like liar , i predict a poor real life for u too so. or short life.. liar don't go realy anywhere.. but finish at cimetary for 99% of time ;)

Clamp that piehole, tardstein.

QPR
07-21-2012, 08:20 AM
u like liar , i predict a poor real life for u too so. or short life.. liar don't go realy anywhere.. but finish at cimetary for 99% of time ;)

If only you made sense it may have actually been funny!

NTM
07-21-2012, 08:20 AM
Clamp that piehole, tardstein.

j'bais eu t'reum & j'la pren devan ta geul et ton reup il film :)

pvre troudeballe :)

NTM
07-21-2012, 08:22 AM
If only you made sense it may have actually been funny!

don't talk u have start, all pots in this thread talk, u start and after tissues, now here the result.

u have kill a thread because u have no brain and are just a kid, don't sarch al is say now.

QPR
07-21-2012, 08:44 AM
don't talk u have start, all pots in this thread talk, u start and after tissues, now here the result.

u have kill a thread because u have no brain and are just a kid, don't sarch al is say now.

The point I'm making is very clear. If you place a bet or gamble it's done at your own risk. You Wouldn't go back on in the casino and ask for your
Money back...

That's precisely what your doing here think about it

Now move along

QPR
07-21-2012, 08:45 AM
Rule #2 don't bet what you can't afford to lose

QPR
07-21-2012, 09:45 AM
Bump

Ntm please keep us updated with the progress you make with your bank refund

Second Comming
07-21-2012, 12:26 PM
900 Gold = 4 Nitro

on Title, i finish Gold and delete game, that a complete fraud trust me.

Firstly, with 30? opens and from what is looking like a 50%ish drop rate on nitro's (from AMG & Billionaires gold open results, the chance of that happening is incredibly unlucky, and you actually stand less chance at this happening than what you called Tissues a liar for.

Tissues has these results:

48 opens, 20fail (a very lucky open rate), 18 Nitro's (a fairly lucky amount, should be around 13-16 with those opens), 10 cash/loot (again should be around 13-16 with those opened. Its the open success rate that Tissues has been very lucky with, but with 2days left of the event he might have a nasty streak of failures now)

The parts in brackets were for you NTM to help you understand gambling and straight %chances of hitting something without anyother variables to account for.

Your unluck is unluckier than Tissues luck on this event - you sure it is not you that is lieing with your results showing a 13% nitros rate when opening crates?

Also, 50% of that gold was not even spent gambling - you pressed the reset button knowing exactly what will happen. In essence your complaining about 25 real money that you lost on a gambling-esque computer game event. I think it would be wiser to ask your parants how to look after and budget your income.

GazLegend
07-21-2012, 12:36 PM
that not the thread, lie or not.

i talk ABOUT RATE not only for who buy gold, that nto the thread ! i talk about rate Nitro.

Tissues don't lie and look he got 18 Nitro all cash option, 20 fails and 10 loot :) nice no ? who lie ? lol.. in england we have many liar maybe i don't know :)

Your from England? You English is just the worst I've ever seen!!! You deserve to lose your money, our education system has clearly failed you

KemoKidd
07-21-2012, 01:00 PM
Sorry to say it is just bad luck for you! First of all I almost never use a timer reset because that is like double the gold for one open. Plus I dont want to get into the whole "Im opening and resetting until I get a nitro" mindset. Gold disappears too fast that way! Second I have been getting nitros more than I expected, both gold and cash option. I believe two seperate times I have gotten nitros twice in a row. So I think the odds are set right. It comes down to luck after that. I know its aggravating to get $6,000 when it costs $6,300 to open and then get a mafia member (because those are so hard to get :p) and then get 100 rps. When there are like 7 different possibilities in each case that means youll get upset 6 out of 7 times. Im not gonna bash you like everyone else here but if you are gonna use gold, use it more wisely.

montecore
07-21-2012, 02:05 PM
I think of all the ways to spend gold in this game, events are the worst. But to each their own.

xclusiv
07-21-2012, 06:41 PM
come on guys im surprised people havent learnt to stop spending gold on events the last time i spent gold on an event was for the emerald burner lol

NTM
07-22-2012, 03:00 AM
well this morning i try another account for see how people can spend so many money, and ?

i found a hack for Gold money and items.. serious.... i understand now how people (some) play...

also u can have full stamina/energy full always, great for drop box. and for Gold same way... dam it... i don't use for sure.. but that hack see me how they work for get the top or so many, like the 1st... 309 Proof :p

who are legit ? that the question.. when u see some hood and the lvl of building... they are hiddent and up slowly but now i'm sure that only cheat...

i play realy many time, i can be a hard core gamer but i don't see any advancement on mu account and playind spending good...

that life guy/gal, but like i say on thread (before some guy come to put hell on my thread...) after this one that all for me, that a good game but u can't make an account seriously, i love to play but pay always all week is terrible..

gambling i read ? ok but.... i like gambling IRL... when u lost u know what u lost and what u can win...when u win.. here u can't see anything :)
gl to all for event, if luck have anything to do ;)

Second Comming
07-22-2012, 03:52 AM
also u can have full stamina/energy full always, great for drop box. and for Gold same way... dam it... i don't use for sure.. but that hack see me how they work for get the top or so many, like the 1st... 309 Proof

Its not proof though - the guy who is in the lead has spent well over 100k$ on the game, why would he risk his account and all the money he has spent on some small time hax. The top 3 in the event are all massive gold buyers - I very much doubt any would be stupid enough to risk being banned to save what amounts to pennies to them.

KemoKidd
07-22-2012, 05:42 AM
I just had 7 or 8 non nitro items in a row. Not complaining. Just stating that that is odds for ya! I had a few hot streaks and now a cold streak.

procsyzarc
07-22-2012, 01:46 PM
This is the 3rd one of these events so don't feel sorry for you. It was pretty easy for anyone to see by now that 900 gold wasn't going to make a difference.

It is very well documented and easy to see if you are not prepared to spend +/-3000 gold on these events then there is no point spending any. Spending 900 then crying you didn't win just shows you lack of understanding and research, and is another example of how it is easy to separate a fool from their money which Gree is becoming very good at.

RAMBONE
07-22-2012, 01:53 PM
Stupid question, how the hell do you get all this gold? Do you actually spend the cash to buy it? You can only get so much from Tapjoy... I saw a few guys cheat using an un locked I phone.how much do you guys spend ???

i need muney
07-22-2012, 03:04 PM
Stupid question, how the hell do you get all this gold? Do you actually spend the cash to buy it? You can only get so much from Tapjoy... I saw a few guys cheat using an un locked I phone.how much do you guys spend ???
Will 5 million dollars a month from three games finally answer your question?

montecore
07-22-2012, 03:13 PM
Stupid question, how the hell do you get all this gold? Do you actually spend the cash to buy it? You can only get so much from Tapjoy... I saw a few guys cheat using an un locked I phone.how much do you guys spend ???

Go get drunk, look at what you can get in those crates and get back to us.

Plux
07-22-2012, 03:29 PM
Which Map, What Level is that Map and which characters were you getting Nitro's out of? It's quite important to know this! Your thread is a total shambles if you're farming Canal Street!

617Pats
07-22-2012, 03:54 PM
If your so angry then file a class action lawsuit claiming "False Adverstisement" and invite us all to join. After all are there many misleading things that Funzio/Gree do. I bought gold with real money to get an item it was the Crazy Hit N Runner and the stat fix has still not taken place. Therefore the item is not what it claimed to be. In the USA I would consider that false advertisement as it claimed to be 20% increase on my car attack stats. The same could be said about bodyguard agencies, Funzio should have disclosed the actual robbery/attack defense capability as required to "Advertise" -sell the item.

False advertising or deceptive advertising is the use of false or misleading statements in advertising. As advertising has the potential to persuade people into commercial transactions that they might otherwise avoid, many governments around the world use regulations to control false, deceptive or misleading advertising. "Truth" refers to essentially the same concept, that customers have the right to know what they are buying, and that all necessary information should be on the label.

False advertising, in the most blatant of contexts, is illegal in most countries. However, advertisers still find ways to deceive consumers in ways that are legal, or technically illegal but unenforceable.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_advertising

I am sure these games are arguably violating laws on some level and one could sue without it being considered being a frivolous lawsuit. If buying and spending gold on these events is considered a gamble then this game would be considered gambling. Is Funzio/Gree paying any gambling taxes to the state of California?

procsyzarc
07-22-2012, 04:02 PM
Without going into too much detail of the actual law since I don't know too much about American law and could be wrong. I believe Funzio (and all ap makers) use gold to get around the whole legal argument basically you buy gold with real money (paid to apple) where you get exactly what was advertised for the price advertised so can’t claim false advertising or any breach of fair trading act type laws on that transaction.

My understanding from there from some responses I have seen from CCMark is what then happens with that gold is irrelevant as far as the law is concerned since it is just a commodity within a game not real money (this part would need to be checked with reference to American law, in my country I believe they would still be liable under the fair trading act however does not seem the same is true in America)

Max Power
07-22-2012, 05:56 PM
Without going into too much detail of the actual law since I don't know too much about American law and could be wrong. I believe Funzio (and all ap makers) use gold to get around the whole legal argument basically you buy gold with real money (paid to apple) where you get exactly what was advertised for the price advertised so can’t claim false advertising or any breach of fair trading act type laws on that transaction.

My understanding from there from some responses I have seen from CCMark is what then happens with that gold is irrelevant as far as the law is concerned since it is just a commodity within a game not real money (this part would need to be checked with reference to American law, in my country I believe they would still be liable under the fair trading act however does not seem the same is true in America)

Sounds a lot like casino chips to me.

Boom
07-22-2012, 06:04 PM
Laws are complicated and stupid. They make it so long. I mean of someone trespasses u have to wait for them to hurt u first so u can hurt em back. That's stupid! If someone that I Don't know comes in my house I wanna stab em with my knife

Fake
07-22-2012, 11:00 PM
Exactly. Bit late for contacting a bank lol

Did you need 900 bars to understand that it was not your day?

War Priest
07-22-2012, 11:20 PM
Exactly. Bit late for contacting a bank lol

Not really. They will still give him his money back.

If you have the right bank, you can get so much free things.

Those TV offers are easy to scam too. If you know your way around, you can get a lot of things for free or very cheap.

Boom
07-22-2012, 11:46 PM
Doubt he has the right bank.

NTM
07-22-2012, 11:59 PM
Which Map, What Level is that Map and which characters were you getting Nitro's out of? It's quite important to know this! Your thread is a total shambles if you're farming Canal Street!

na.. i doing job... i'm lvl 92... canal street lol... pls stay serious XD!

Second Comming
07-23-2012, 04:03 AM
Without going into too much detail of the actual law since I don't know too much about American law and could be wrong. I believe Funzio (and all ap makers) use gold to get around the whole legal argument basically you buy gold with real money (paid to apple) where you get exactly what was advertised for the price advertised so can’t claim false advertising or any breach of fair trading act type laws on that transaction.

My understanding from there from some responses I have seen from CCMark is what then happens with that gold is irrelevant as far as the law is concerned since it is just a commodity within a game not real money (this part would need to be checked with reference to American law, in my country I believe they would still be liable under the fair trading act however does not seem the same is true in America)

Nice reading it Pro, although I pretty much thought along those lines there are so many loop holes in the law, for both sides of the coin. Are you from UK (like me!)? because look how much the banks have had to pay out in the past 1-2years, and now credit companies - I'm sure with the knowledge and right law company you could potentially make a pretty big impact without saying to much to these small app companies that create a simple but addictive game by bleeding their customers dry (not refering to funzi or gree here, there are other apps that cost even more than their games).

DenZ1
07-23-2012, 07:53 AM
Sounds a lot like casino chips to me.

It's exactly what it is. Just no bouncers around :)

procsyzarc
07-23-2012, 06:33 PM
Nice reading it Pro, although I pretty much thought along those lines there are so many loop holes in the law, for both sides of the coin. Are you from UK (like me!)? because look how much the banks have had to pay out in the past 1-2years, and now credit companies - I'm sure with the knowledge and right law company you could potentially make a pretty big impact without saying to much to these small app companies that create a simple but addictive game by bleeding their customers dry (not refering to funzi or gree here, there are other apps that cost even more than their games).

I'm from New Zealand but much of our law is based on or originated from UK law

Daniel2115
07-24-2012, 03:59 PM
Laws are complicated and stupid. They make it so long. I mean of someone trespasses u have to wait for them to hurt u first so u can hurt em back. That's stupid! If someone that I Don't know comes in my house I wanna stab em with my knife

Where are you from? Thats not how the law is in the US