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marebear
07-23-2012, 09:02 PM
Credit to Miner for the following post from Modern War:::::(DISCLAIMER: Assuming they are similar events in mw and ka))) Beat the Boss Attack Timeline - with and without health boostJust for those of you new to a boss event here's the attack timelines to get the 13 free hits if you don't have the 20% faster health recovery boost and the 15 free hits for those with the boost. Without Boost2:00: Hit 11:59: Hit 2 1:59: Hit 31:58: Hit 41:58: Hit 51:32: Hit 61:32: Hit 71:06: Hit 81:06: Hit 9 0:40: Hit 100:40: Hit 110:14: Hit 120:14: Hit 13Full recovery time: 1 hr, 40 minutesWith 20% Faster Health Recovery Boost2:00: Hit 11:59: Hit 21:59: Hit 31:58: Hit 41:58: Hit 51:37: Hit 6 1:37: Hit 71:16: Hit 81:16: Hit 90:55: Hit 100:55: Hit 110:34: Hit 120:34: Hit 13 0:14: Hit 14 0:14: Hit 15Full recovery time: 1 hr, 20 minutesIf you get off schedule:Without Boost: Wait 26 minutes before giving him 2 hitsWith Boost: Wait 21 minutes before giving him 2 hitsThings to Remember:- You have a maximum of 100 health points- Each attack takes 25 health points from you- Health points regenerate at 1 hp per minute (unless you have boost, then 1 hp every 48 seconds)- If you retreat with less than 25 health points, you cannot attack until your health is at least 25- Each medpack you buy increases the max number of hits you can get in within the 2 hour limit by 5 if you wait 1 minute after the first 3 attacks

enahs1
07-23-2012, 09:05 PM
If I didn't know what you were talking about, you would have confused me

marebear
07-23-2012, 09:05 PM
Here's the link because my copy and paste didn't translate well. http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37548-Beat-the-Boss-Attack-Timeline-with-and-without-health-boosthttp://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg546/here2andnow3/73c06062.jpghttp://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg546/here2andnow3/0b839b31.jpg

enahs1
07-23-2012, 09:09 PM
Beat the Boss Attack Timeline
Just for those of you new to a boss event here's the attack timelines to get the 13 free hits.

2:00: Hit 1
1:59: Hit 2
1:59: Hit 3
1:58: Hit 4
1:58: Hit 5
1:32: Hit 6
1:32: Hit 7
1:06: Hit 8
1:06: Hit 9
0:40: Hit 10
0:40: Hit 11
0:14: Hit 12
0:14: Hit 13

Full recovery time: 1 hr, 40 minutes

If you get off schedule:

Wait 26 minutes before giving him 2 hits

Things to Remember:
- You have a maximum of 100 health points
- Each attack takes 25 health points from you
- Health points regenerate at 1 hp per minute (unless you have boost, then 1 hp every 48 seconds)
- If you retreat with less than 25 health points, you cannot attack until your health is at least 25
- Each medpack you buy increases the max number of hits you can get in within the 2 hour limit by 5 if you wait 1 minute after the first 3 attacks

Jhoemel
07-23-2012, 09:18 PM
I want this event to be activated right now :(

Hapl0
07-23-2012, 09:23 PM
Enahs1, thanks for the info. Do you know how much xp you gain with each hit?

enahs1
07-23-2012, 09:26 PM
You gain no exp for any hits. Once the event starts, any pvp or pve will trigger a boss. Then you use either a free hit, cash hit, or gold hit to kill the boss. The prizes are like crates items. You have a chance for a common, uncommon, or rare unit and once you kill 30 bosses, you recieve a grand prize unit with ridiculous stats

Hapl0
07-23-2012, 09:54 PM
Thanks enahs1, that were my only concern and never try yet and i'm lvl10 in MW.

-->FISH<--
07-23-2012, 09:58 PM
They have put in a delay so, when the boss pops up you won't have the problem of collecting you gold. In MW several times I would finish a mission and valor, cash, or units wouldn't pop up. Sent in several tickets and now there is a bigger pause.

enahs1
07-23-2012, 10:12 PM
They have put in a delay so, when the boss pops up you won't have the problem of collecting you gold. In MW several times I would finish a mission and valor, cash, or units wouldn't pop up. Sent in several tickets and now there is a bigger pause.
How do you know they put in a delay?

echus14
07-23-2012, 11:03 PM
@enahs1

So, is that a countdown timing in minutes and seconds ... first 3 hits basically immediately one after the other since they are only 1 second or less apart?

And I suppose the likelihood of success of the attack varies according to the choice of attack (free, cash or gold)? If so, what happens to the timings if an attack fails?

Hello Kitty
07-23-2012, 11:40 PM
Link to data I tracked for MW boss #3: http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37574-How-many-bosses....without-gold-part-III&p=339563&viewfull=1#post339563

At the bottom of this post are the threads for boss #1 and #2.

Hopefully the KA boss will have the same format!

Cool Fella
07-24-2012, 09:52 AM
I am pretty sure the first boss event will be this coming weekend

The_Red
07-24-2012, 10:18 AM
I am pretty sure the first boss event will be this coming weekend

Odds are good, since we've had an event every weekend for a month or more.

The_Red
07-24-2012, 10:33 AM
Beat the Boss Attack Timeline
Just for those of you new to a boss event here's the attack timelines to get the 13 free hits.

2:00: Hit 1
1:59: Hit 2
1:59: Hit 3
1:58: Hit 4
1:58: Hit 5
1:32: Hit 6
1:32: Hit 7
1:06: Hit 8
1:06: Hit 9
0:40: Hit 10
0:40: Hit 11
0:14: Hit 12
0:14: Hit 13

Full recovery time: 1 hr, 40 minutes

If you get off schedule:

Wait 26 minutes before giving him 2 hits

Things to Remember:
- You have a maximum of 100 health points
- Each attack takes 25 health points from you
- Health points regenerate at 1 hp per minute (unless you have boost, then 1 hp every 48 seconds)
- If you retreat with less than 25 health points, you cannot attack until your health is at least 25
- Each medpack you buy increases the max number of hits you can get in within the 2 hour limit by 5 if you wait 1 minute after the first 3 attacks

That seems wildly complicated.

spectra
07-24-2012, 11:03 AM
I am pretty sure the first boss event will be this coming weekend


Odds are good, since we've had an event every weekend for a month or more.

Actually the boss events last about 6 to 7 days...

It is likely the event will start this evening or tomorrow (at least that is what I am hoping for)...........:cool:

enahs1
07-24-2012, 11:07 AM
Actually the boss events last about 6 to 7 days...

It is likely the event will start this evening or tomorrow (at least that is what I am hoping for)...........:cool:
Me too, I love the boss events on mw

Sludgeboy
07-24-2012, 12:00 PM
Does your Hero strength, weapon, and armor calculate in how hard you hit the boss or is it a set amount? What is the time limit in MW on killing a boss when it takes 1 hr 40 minutes to fully recover ( according to enahs1 post)? Can you exit the game and the boss still be there somewhere? I guess I will have to see it to get a better grip on the boss event. I'm still a little lost on how this works.

Hobtuse
07-24-2012, 04:48 PM
That seems wildly complicated.

I think you just need to do it once and it becomes second nature. Just use the basic principles.

example: After hits 1-3, you are left with 25 health via 3 hits of 25 damage from the boss. At 1:58, you would have recovered 2 health giving you 27 health. This enables you to deal hit 4, bringing you down to 2 health, then hit 5, bringing you down to 0 health and out of the attack screen.

After 26 minutes (1:32), you would have recovered back to 26 health and you can go back to the attack screen, deal hit 6, bringing you down to 1 health or more, then hit 7, bringing you down to 0 health and out of the attack screen.

It's a recurring cycle every 26 minutes. If at anytime, you use the med pack, you go back to full health and thus you can deal the full complement of 5 hits by simply doing 3 hits in 2-3 mins, waiting, then doing 2 hits.

In addition, when you level up during the boss event, your health goes back to full.

I haven't played the event but I think I got it nailed down.

Crazy Canuck
07-24-2012, 05:54 PM
Enahs1, thanks for the info. Do you know how much xp you gain with each hit?You do get alittle bit of exp for beating each boss but not for each hit

Crazy Canuck
07-24-2012, 05:58 PM
Odds are good, since we've had an event every weekend for a month or more.If they run it like MW there will be 2 events on at the sane time. Boss event and box event

d_nickels
07-24-2012, 06:09 PM
So instead of feeling the pressure to log in once every hour we'll feel pressure to log in once every 26 minutes on the button? And if your hits are off by more than ~10 minutes for the entire 2h period you might screw up your chances to win? And we need to do this for 30 two hours periods? (looks like the first few are shorter, but still a ton)

Sounds great!

Why does every game I enjoy playing end up trying to force me into playing instead of just letting me play at my own pace? Yes, I know I don't have to log in, but knowing I can get some good loot from logging in makes me want to even though it annoys me.

Jhoemel
07-24-2012, 06:17 PM
Me too, I love the boss events on mw


I want it to start right now :)

echus14
07-24-2012, 06:19 PM
But Boss, I really NEED to log in. You see there's this event with an epic boss I have to defeat ... no, no, not you ... what? Here's my pink slip? :rolleyes:

Hobtuse
07-24-2012, 06:21 PM
It has started

Hobtuse
07-24-2012, 06:22 PM
Quest: Defeat the Gladiator King 40 times

Defeat the Epic Boss 40 Times

Crazy Canuck
07-24-2012, 06:23 PM
So instead of feeling the pressure to log in once every hour we'll feel pressure to log in once every 26 minutes on the button? And if your hits are off by more than ~10 minutes for the entire 2h period you might screw up your chances to win? And we need to do this for 30 two hours periods? (looks like the first few are shorter, but still a ton)

Sounds great!

Why does every game I enjoy playing end up trying to force me into playing instead of just letting me play at my own pace? Yes, I know I don't have to log in, but knowing I can get some good loot from logging in makes me want to even though it annoys me.Well unless your going to spend gems chances are you won't beat the boss 30 times.

They give you lots of days to do boss events so pick times where you have the time to play

echus14
07-24-2012, 06:25 PM
@Hobtuse
Am assuming you are familiar with the epic boss events.
I don't have access to my iPad (its being looked after by my wife) and I have never played this kind of event before. Can you pls advise if playing the Epic Boss event risks any levelling up (read somewhere that it does not), and if she is not able to following all of the best play advice, what should she do ... just hit as often as she can? Run for the hills?

Hobtuse
07-24-2012, 06:27 PM
@echus14: you can pm me.. i will try my best to answer as many questions even though I have just played it once.

Yup thanks FUNZIO/GREE/KA for the EPIC Boss event. It's damn interesting!! Just cleared Boss 1

Guido69
07-24-2012, 06:28 PM
Where do I find the boss?

Hobtuse
07-24-2012, 06:30 PM
@guido69: Do PVP, or PVE

Guido69
07-24-2012, 06:37 PM
@guido69: Do PVP, or PVE

thx, and then the boss shows up on that map?

d_nickels
07-24-2012, 06:37 PM
It's live and I triggered two bosses by doing just ten pvp fights. Won them both with two cash hits on the first and three on the second. Got two of the weaker units as reward.

How do you tell how much health you have outside of starting a boss fight? I started the second one with less than full health.

Edit: and if progression happens as mw it's doubtful I have any chance at 40 wins without major gem spending. Does anybody have a great understanding of what determines boss hit points and your attack damage?

Hobtuse
07-24-2012, 06:40 PM
@d_nickels: you retain the health from the last boss fight. you start at 100. if you beat the boss with 2 hits, then u are at 50 health and you regain 1 health every 1 min.

and pictures!!

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj111/Hobtuse/photo-7.png
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj111/Hobtuse/photo-6.png

Crazy Canuck
07-24-2012, 06:42 PM
It's live and I triggered two bosses by doing just ten pvp fights. Won them both with two cash hits on the first and three on the second. Got two of the weaker units as reward.

How do you tell how much health you have outside of starting a boss fight? I started the second one with less than full health. you get 1 health point per minute. So just pay attention to where your health bar when you finished a boss if it's half then you have to wait 50 minute to be full ect

The_Red
07-24-2012, 06:43 PM
kinda weird - I just triggered a boss by logging in.

deuce
07-24-2012, 06:44 PM
It said that ANY ACTION could trigger an event.

Hello Kitty
07-24-2012, 06:46 PM
Grrrrr! Still no boss launch for me.

Hobtuse
07-24-2012, 06:46 PM
@HK: Let the game load in the background for 10mins, then restart the app..

spectra
07-24-2012, 06:54 PM
right on schedule.....................hahahahahaha

Hobtuse
07-24-2012, 06:58 PM
right on schedule.....................hahahahahaha

Like a Boss. Haha. Thanks!

deuce
07-24-2012, 06:59 PM
What happens if you run out of HP while fighting a boss?

Hobtuse
07-24-2012, 07:01 PM
What happens if you run out of HP while fighting a boss?

1) pay 10 gems to go back to full health
2) wait 26-27 minutes to go to 26-27 health to get in two hits at the boss (u got 2 hours to beat the boss)
3) if you have no more time left, then end of boss fight

deuce
07-24-2012, 07:01 PM
Ah ... You can buy a cure potion for 10 gems. Heh. Another way for them to collect money. Guess this boss will escape.

spectra
07-24-2012, 07:02 PM
Ah ... You can buy a cure potion for 10 gems. Heh. Another way for them to collect money. Guess this boss will escape.

look at the start of the thread to see how you can hit him 13 times during the 2 hours

Jhoemel
07-24-2012, 07:09 PM
i cant trigger a boss... what did you guess do to trigger it?

Crazy Canuck
07-24-2012, 07:11 PM
Well glad to see it's only 10 gems instead of 20 like on MW to refill health since we have to beat an extra 10 bosses.

Have to say though the rare units are kind of weak. Was expecting stats over 100 atleast on either att or def for each

Hobtuse
07-24-2012, 07:13 PM
this event looks tough for me.. at boss 3, and i already need more hits than average..

Jhoemel
07-24-2012, 07:14 PM
crap I used all my stamina and only one boss came

Crazy Canuck
07-24-2012, 07:23 PM
What is the Grand prizes stats?

I'm on my phone and can't scoll pic over to see and haven't got the pop up yet when I start the gane

Jhoemel
07-24-2012, 07:25 PM
hello guys. Do you think I need to go full allies for this boss event? I have 34 allies now with att 3657/3267

I have high unit density but I think you need to go full allies to finish this event...


what you think?

Skoty422
07-24-2012, 07:27 PM
Ok I'm on my fourth boss now. I have no energy though. It tells me to wait 8 min. Is that where the 26 min y'all were talking about is coming from? For the three hits it takes to kill the boss?

Hobtuse
07-24-2012, 07:29 PM
I have a question though for those who have played with this event. Are the unit stats locked in ?

For example: Veteran Gladiator 19/17 for me right at the start of the event. If I go up in levels, it will remain the same?

Everyone has different stats according to their levels but I was wondering if they lock in stats from the start of the event..

Jhoemel
07-24-2012, 07:31 PM
I have a question though for those who have played with this event. Are the unit stats locked in ?

For example: Veteran Gladiator 19/17 for me right at the start of the event. If I go up in levels, it will remain the same?

Everyone has different stats according to their levels but I was wondering if they lock in stats from the start of the event..

They will go up if you level up enough to go to another tier

Hobtuse
07-24-2012, 07:33 PM
They will go up if you level up enough to go to another tier

Thanks!! Guess that means they remain locked in for me since I am at level 103 now..

Crazy Canuck
07-24-2012, 07:33 PM
I have a question though for those who have played with this event. Are the unit stats locked in ?

For example: Veteran Gladiator 19/17 for me right at the start of the event. If I go up in levels, it will remain the same?

Everyone has different stats according to their levels but I was wondering if they lock in stats from the start of the event.. when I played on MW and jumped up lvls on 1st event all the units I had previously won upgraded as I moved up but can't say for sure the sane will happen on KA or not

Hobtuse
07-24-2012, 07:35 PM
@CrazyCanuck: Thanks! that means my units can further move up in the future..

You can check out the epic boss loot tracker thread though. i posted the picture for the grand prize.

Hello Kitty
07-24-2012, 07:39 PM
Boss in a nutshell:

Anything can provoke a boss scenario: attack on a rival, raid on a rival, quest accomplishment, farming, etc. Anything but collecting your own money from your kingdom.

1) Once a boss is triggered, you have 2 hours to kill the boss
2) You are assigned a health bar - independent of energy, stamina, and hero. The health bar is worth 100. It takes 1 minute to replace 1 unit of health.

To kill a boss:

1) You have the the traditional 3 options: a) free (lesser stats) b) cash (at stats) and c) mega (boosted stats that cost gems)
2) You choose how to kill a boss. If you cannot do it within 1 health bar (100 = 100 minutes = 4 x 25 hits per bar) then you have to wait another 25 minutes for a health bar hit.

Note: You have 2 hours to kill a boss. Technically it's 4 hits (25) per 100 health bar. For a 2 hour period, you can maximize your health bar and breaks to 13 hits:

1:59 4 hits
wait 1 minute
1:57 1 extra hit

now your health bar is gone and you have to wait a minimum of 25 minutes for next replenishment:

1:32-ish min: 1 hit, plus 1 extra hit (you must always have at least 1 minute to regenerate 1 unit)

now your health bar is gone and you have to wait a minimum of 25 minutes for next replenishment:

1:03-ish mn: 1 hit, plus 1 extra hit (you must always have at least 1 minute to regenerate 1 unit)

now your health bar is gone and you have to wait a minimum of 25 minutes for next replenishment:

Starting to make sense? You have 2 hours to kill the boss.

Skoty422
07-24-2012, 07:39 PM
Ok I was at fourth boss and it said I could attack again in 8 min. Then I attacked 8 min later and made one hit and now it says 1 hr and 49 mins until I can attack again. But it also says that the boss will escape in 1 hr and 49 min. Did I just waste a hit on it?

Jhoemel
07-24-2012, 07:40 PM
Thanks!! Guess that means they remain locked in for me since I am at level 103 now..

I think thats the last tier man

Hobtuse
07-24-2012, 07:43 PM
Ok I was at fourth boss and it said I could attack again in 8 min. Then I attacked 8 min later and made one hit and now it says 1 hr and 49 mins until I can attack again. But it also says that the boss will escape in 1 hr and 49 min. Did I just waste a hit on it?

Erm you should have waited 9 mins instead of 8 mins. the extra minute will give you 1 health.

So that when you made one hit, the boss hits you back for 25 damage and you go down to 1 health, allowing you to make another hit before being forced to retreat.

You should only have to wait 25 mins max each time to attack again. However, the correct move would be to wait 26 mins every time, meaning x+1 minutes.

Hello Kitty
07-24-2012, 07:43 PM
Ok I was at fourth boss and it said I could attack again in 8 min. Then I attacked 8 min later and made one hit and now it says 1 hr and 49 mins until I can attack again. But it also says that the boss will escape in 1 hr and 49 min. Did I just waste a hit on it?Yes, you could have squeezed 2 hits. But that's OK. You'll get him in the next 25 minutes. The health bar will lock you out at a very low level at 25 min increment. Don't walk away.

Crazy Canuck
07-24-2012, 07:44 PM
So happy to see the Epic Boss events on KA but would have really liked alittle down time to rest since I just finished getting the 30 Boss wins needed on MW this afternoon.

Hello Kitty
07-24-2012, 07:45 PM
So happy to see the Epic Boss events on KA but would have really liked alittle down time to rest since I just finished getting the 30 Boss wins needed on MW this afternoon.I'm with you CC! I saw this and thought...nooooooo! I finished boss 30 this morning. Argh! How'd you do on loot?

Crazy Canuck
07-24-2012, 07:48 PM
Also really glad to have the forums since was able to hear that the boss events where coming to KA and was able to start the upgrades on my beast kennel right away. Will finish upgrading to lvl 7 in 24 mins helps make my att a lot stronger for these.

Don't think I will have enough cash yet though to move to lvl 8 so will start on the blacksmith boost building for now

Crazy Canuck
07-24-2012, 07:52 PM
I'm with you CC! I saw this and thought...nooooooo! I finished boss 30 this morning. Argh! How'd you do on loot? this was my best haul of the 3 events so far got 5 rares, 9 uncommons and 16 commons.

Had to use gold on the last 14 bosses and in those I got 3 rares, 5 uncommons, 6 commons and the black death soldier so the 980 gold it cost me was money well spent I think!

How did you do?

The_Red
07-24-2012, 07:54 PM
to be clear - are these indestructible or normal?

bigflan
07-24-2012, 07:54 PM
This event sucks I have 1 lousy uncommon and a stupid common

bigflan
07-24-2012, 07:54 PM
to be clear - are these indestructible or normal?

There indestructible

Crazy Canuck
07-24-2012, 07:56 PM
This event sucks I have 1 lousy uncommon and a stupid commonDiffrent forum but still the same flan lol

Hello Kitty
07-24-2012, 07:57 PM
this was my best haul of the 3 events so far got 5 rares, 9 uncommons and 16 commons.

Had to use gold on the last 14 bosses and in those I got 3 rares, 5 uncommons, 6 commons and the black death soldier so the 980 gold it cost me was money well spent I think!

How did you do?Ack! I'm embarrased to say...8 rares, 6 uncommons, 16 commons and the black death for 720 gold. Definitely well spent!

GetItOn
07-24-2012, 08:07 PM
Why does every game I enjoy playing end up trying to force me into playing instead of just letting me play at my own pace? Yes, I know I don't have to log in, but knowing I can get some good loot from logging in makes me want to even though it annoys me.

LoL I totally hear ya there.

The_Legend_Shall_Live_On
07-24-2012, 08:14 PM
So I think I get the "free hit" schedule. Basically, you can successfully use that schedule for up to the point of needing to hit a boss 13 times without spending gold and still kill without them "escaping", correct? If you start with a full life bar.

That being said, what's the hit difference when you use the gold hit (not gems)?

bigflan
07-24-2012, 08:16 PM
The diffrence is

Free option= your unboosted stats
Gold option= unboosted stats with a boost
Gem option= 4x the damage of your unboosted stats

GetItOn
07-24-2012, 08:20 PM
The diffrence is

Free option= your unboosted stats
Gold option= unboosted stats with a boost
Gem option= 4x the damage of your unboosted stats

What exactly are my "stats"? It says buy stronger units to increase your damage? Is your attack damage based on your single highest attack unit??

Jhoemel
07-24-2012, 08:25 PM
What exactly are my "stats"? It says buy stronger units to increase your damage? Is your attack damage based on your single highest attack unit??

Nope its base on you total attack without boost

Crazy Canuck
07-24-2012, 08:25 PM
Ack! I'm embarrased to say...8 rares, 6 uncommons, 16 commons and the black death for 720 gold. Definitely well spent! Nice haul!! 

I keep going up on the rares 2 in 1st, 4 in 2nd and now 5 so maybe by the 5th boss event I can make it to 8 lol

Crazy Canuck
07-24-2012, 08:28 PM
The diffrence is

Free option= your unboosted stats
Gold option= unboosted stats with a boost
Gem option= 4x the damage of your unboosted stats the boost you get with gold option will be bigger the more boost building you have upgraded I have found

Al_raine
07-24-2012, 08:36 PM
hello guys. Do you think I need to go full allies for this boss event? I have 34 allies now with att 3657/3267

I have high unit density but I think you need to go full allies to finish this event...


what you think?

I think this is the best time to add allies. Not sure what your strategy is and if u want to max. At your ally count, I think adding a few shouldn't hurt your strategy too much and will help significantly during the event. Besides you can always remove allies after the event.

Skoty422
07-24-2012, 08:39 PM
Agh! I finally understand what y'all were talking about by waiting the extra minute to get another hit in. Thanks for trying to explain earlier on but I just didn't understand since I had no prior experience with the boss events and I don't play mw so I get confused when it is used as an example. Got it now.

How many times does it take to kill the boss? It seems to increase each time. I added three allies to put me at 125 with a boss attack at 21325 and it is gonna take me 5 attacks to kill the boss (#4). Does this sound normal? I'm level 83 I think.

Jhoemel
07-24-2012, 08:42 PM
I think this is the best time to add allies. Not sure what your strategy is and if u want to max. At your ally count, I think adding a few shouldn't hurt your strategy too much and will help significantly during the event. Besides you can always remove allies after the event.

Ok thanks. Ill add allies if I start getting difficulty beating the boss

Hello Kitty
07-24-2012, 08:43 PM
Agh! I finally understand what y'all were talking about by waiting the extra minute to get another hit in. Thanks for trying to explain earlier on but I just didn't understand since I had no prior experience with the boss events and I don't play mw so I get confused when it is used as an example. Got it now.

How many times does it take to kill the boss? It seems to increase each time. I added three allies to put me at 125 with a boss attack at 21325 and it is gonna take me 5 attacks to kill the boss (#4). Does this sound normal? I'm level 83 I think.Hey Skoty - how do you think we can explain it better? Want to try to improve the message. You're right, it's really a simple concept, but so hard to explain...thoughts?

erik41141
07-24-2012, 08:56 PM
...if i had a god damn iphone this would be so much easier. iPad player

Skoty422
07-24-2012, 09:12 PM
Hk, I'm not sure. Lol. It's hard to explain if u don't have a clue!

For everyone that don't have a clue: your boss fighting energy bar is set at 100. It takes 25 to attack. If you have 26 then you get to attack twice! One attack will take the 25, the other attack will take 1. They will both deliver the same damage so when it says you can attack in (ex:23:14) or whatever it may be, look at a clock and make sure you wait an extra minute or two so you get that extra attack in. So if you are sharp on the clock then while you are fighting a boss you should be attacking every 26-27 minutes for two attacks.

On another note, I am getting gold for killing the boss. It seems to be increasing every boss. Is anyone keeping up with any of this? If not I won't worry about letting anyone know. If so, I'll try to jot it down on here somewhere.

The_Legend_Shall_Live_On
07-24-2012, 09:13 PM
Hey Skoty - how do you think we can explain it better? Want to try to improve the message. You're right, it's really a simple concept, but so hard to explain...thoughts?
Let me give it whirl for the basic instructions 'cause I think I understand now.

Each boss has X amount of life. Each attack on the boss takes off Y amount of life from the boss, depending on (a) your overall strength from units, and (b) your overall stregnth from number of allies in effect to show how many of your units are in effect.

As you kill each boss, his life goes up some. So X is now X+1. Let's say his life for boss one was 100. Now boss 2 it is 125.

Each time you hit him it can take off 100. So if boss has 125 life, he'll counter attack and take off some of your life if he isn't dead.

So round 2 looks like:

You have 100 life. He has 125. You hit him, don't kill, so he has 25 left. But he hits you, so you have 75 left. So you hit him one more time and he dies with no counter attack so you end with 75 left.

Round 3 - you enter with 75 because that's how much you had left when you won the last one. He now has 150. You hit him (down to 50), he hits you (down to 50), you hit him he dies.

And so on.

But your life refills at a rate of 1 "hit point" per minute. So finding the next boss takes a minute. So you start THAT round with 51. He has 250.

You hit him (down to 150), he hits you (26), you hit him again (50), he hits you back (down to 1), but you can get a last hit in because you still have that last hit point left, so you kill him.

Now it is all about strategy of your timing of hits, waiting for life regen, etc.

Is that right?

tcapi
07-24-2012, 09:14 PM
Beat the Boss Attack Timeline
Just for those of you new to a boss event here's the attack timelines to get the 13 free hits.

2:00: Hit 1
1:59: Hit 2
1:59: Hit 3
1:58: Hit 4
1:58: Hit 5
1:32: Hit 6
1:32: Hit 7
1:06: Hit 8
1:06: Hit 9
0:40: Hit 10
0:40: Hit 11
0:14: Hit 12
0:14: Hit 13

Full recovery time: 1 hr, 40 minutes



When you are waiting for the second hit in 2 minutes, is it possible/advisable to search around to get another Epic Boss?

GetItOn
07-24-2012, 09:21 PM
When you are waiting for the second hit in 2 minutes, is it possible/advisable to search around to get another Epic Boss?

I think you can only be fighting one boss at a time.

tcapi
07-24-2012, 09:27 PM
I think you can only be fighting one boss at a time.

Logical. Can any experienced MW player confirm that please?

Hello Kitty
07-24-2012, 09:27 PM
Loot Wins:


Item #

Type

Unit

Loot

Att

Def

Boss



1

Rare

Infantry

Judicator

78

87

0



2

Rare

Magic

Fighter Spirit

101

49

0



3

Rare

Beast

Pit Challenge

61

97

2



4

Uncommon

Infantry

Formidable Centurion

26

37

2



5

Uncommon

Infantry

Formidable Fighter

36

30

2



6

Uncommon

Infantry

Formidable Barbarian

42

18

2



7

Common

Infantry

Formidable Brawler

18

8

7



8

Common

Machine

Pit Caravan

7

21

3



9

Common

Infantry

Formidable Gladiator

15

14

3



10

Grand Prize

Infantry

Gladiator Champion

730

520

0






Totals Earned

522

525

21




Boss Tracker:


21

65


161

$218,475

0

130









Boss

Free Hits

Force $/Hit

Force Hits

$

Mega Hits

Gold

Boss Strength

Level

Allies

Att

Def

Item #



1

1

$150


$0



139xx

67

111



8



2

1

$225


$0



13942

67

111



7



3

2

$300


$0



13948

67

112

21101

23030

7



4

3

$375


$0



13953

67

112

21101

23030

7



5

4

$450


$0



13956

67

112

21101

23030

9



6

5

$525


$0



13960

67

112

21121

23030

6



7*

7

$600


$0



13687/14127

67

112

21155/21388

23030/23047

7



8

8

$675


$0



14131

67

112

21395

23047

7



9

10

$750


$0



14144

67

112

21403

23047

8



10*

12

$825


$0



14162

68

112

21415/21431

23063/23098

7



11

6

$900

7

$6,300



14170/21148

68

112

21439

23098

9



12*

6

$975

6

$5,850



14211/21700

68

112

21576/22108

23271/23901

9



13*


$1,050

12

$12,600



21706

68

113

22113

23901

7



14*


$1,125

12

$13,500



22306/22378

68

113

22743/22814

23902/23990

4



15*


$1,200

13

$15,600



22642/22764

68

113

22866/23212

23996/24262

4



16*


$1,275

14

$17,850


10

23496

68

115

24025

24267

6



17


$1,350

16

$21,600


10

23624

68

115

24351

24282

5



18*


$1,425

18

$25,650


20

23676/23699

69

115

24371/24394

24282/24294

5



19*


$1,500

19

$28,500


20

23835/24069

69

115

24394/24793

24294/24652

8



20


$1,575

21

$33,075


30

24292

69

116

24798

24655

3



21*


$1,650

23

$37,950


40

24679

69

120

25459/25609

25447/25587

3






*Notes:

Boss 7 = added 8 bassilik 37/21.
Boss 10 = Level up from 67 to 68.
Boss 12 = picked up event prize Magistrate of Thanatos 495/605. 1 Free boss hit = boss strength 14539. 4 Free boss hits = boss strength 14211. Level 5 Beast Kennel upgrade completed (beast power).
Boss 13 = added 1 ally: was 112 now 113.
Boss 14 = added 20 flaming trebuchets 40/19 and 1 basilik 37/21.
Boss 15 = added more flaming trebuchets 40/19.
Boss 16 = added 1 ally: was 113 now115. Level 4 Engineering Academy upgrade completed (machine power).
Boss 18 = added Priest of High Sands and loot from quests.
Boss 19 = added Priest of High Sands and added 3 allies: was 115 now 119.
Boss 21 = added 1 ally: was 119 now 120. added 3 more Priest of High Sands.

bigflan
07-24-2012, 09:27 PM
Yes that's true

Hello Kitty
07-24-2012, 09:30 PM
Logical. Can any experienced MW player confirm that please?One boss at a time. You have 2 hours to kill each respective level boss. If you lose him, you start the level over. If you kill him, you advance to the next boss.

-->FISH<--
07-24-2012, 09:31 PM
spoken like a true professional....

tcapi
07-24-2012, 09:31 PM
HK, as usual, great job! Thank you.

Funkey monkey
07-24-2012, 09:34 PM
I think I must be dense. So I've killed 5 bosses, on the last one I started out not full strength. Should I wait a while before finding another boss or best to go ahead and start a new fight? I've seen my life bar go way down but not out. Does it kick you off the screen when you are out or do you have to wait on the fight screen for your life to come back?

Hello Kitty
07-24-2012, 09:40 PM
I think I must be dense. So I've killed 5 bosses, on the last one I started out not full strength. Should I wait a while before finding another boss or best to go ahead and start a new fight? I've seen my life bar go way down but not out. Does it kick you off the screen when you are out or do you have to wait on the fight screen for your life to come back?Hey monkey - you look different today - new shirt? At the first levels, you can probably kill boss with what you've got - you still have 2 hours to kill boss.

Health bar works this way:

Full bar = 100 units
Each regular hit on boss = 25 units
Each unit takes 1 minute to replenish.

You can wait 1-2 minutes to gain a hit on the last part of a health bar.

Do the math early on to be able to hit the boss in 2 hours. If you kill him in 2 hours, you level up a boss. If not, you start over.

I recommend always starting with a full health bar (otherwise you have to buy a med pack to get full health).

For example: if you killed the boss on the last health bar you took only 1 hit (25 units) out of the 4 hits (100 units) you have 75 units (3 hits) left. If you launch the next boss too soon, you only start with 75 units (3 hits). In this instance, I'd wait another 25 minutes (1 minute per unit) to launch the next boss for a full health bar.

-->FISH<--
07-24-2012, 09:42 PM
you can get away with it for the first few... (not letting it power back to full strength) ...... but, the higher you go you will need the full bar... then another one and another one. So, it is advantageous to let it recover to full before you start another fight. Marebears post that started this thread has the MW times and though they are close I think they are a bit different. you just have to play around with it... if you go all the way down the he has a better chance to escape.

tcapi
07-24-2012, 09:48 PM
What is the difference on "Cash" term and "Free" term then? When should one start using the gold?

Timbathia
07-24-2012, 09:50 PM
The triggers for the epic boss seem odd. I have found twice now that the trigger has simply been clicking the invade button on my rival list (the one that takes you to their kingdom, not actually attacks or raids anything). Has anyone else seen this? It might be good for those not wanting to level up to just keep visit different rivals using the invade option without actually raiding or attacking until the boss comes up.

tcapi
07-24-2012, 09:55 PM
I got all my triggers from PvE.

Funkey monkey
07-24-2012, 10:11 PM
HK – thanks for the answer, I think I’ve got it. Also figured out when you run out, you only have to go to the quests to get back in with that boss to fight again where you left him. When you say start over, do you mean go back to boss 1 or start over with the boss you lost to?

My kids picked out my avatar – you should have heard them giggle - a little disturbing but funny.

I’m doing raids to trigger the boss.

Hapl0
07-24-2012, 10:11 PM
Nice finding Timbathia, by my side from PvE.

GetItOn
07-24-2012, 10:13 PM
Are the attack damages on a different scale? I have 27,637 attack but a Quick Attack (Unboosted) is 18.8k and a Gold Attack (boosted) is only 26,994?

Shouldn't my Quick attack be at least 27,637 my base attack strength?

Hello Kitty
07-24-2012, 10:16 PM
HK Ė thanks for the answer, I think Iíve got it. Also figured out when you run out, you only have to go to the quests to get back in with that boss to fight again where you left him. When you say start over, do you mean go back to boss 1 or start over with the boss you lost to?

My kids picked out my avatar Ė you should have heard them giggle - a little disturbing but funny.

Iím doing raids to trigger the boss.I love it! That must have been a fun family experience. I giggled too. It's funny! I hope you did the dad thing too and acted the part :)

You start over on the boss you lost, any boss you defeat is in the bag.

Hobtuse
07-24-2012, 10:22 PM
Are the attack damages on a different scale? I have 27,637 attack but a Quick Attack (Unboosted) is 18.8k and a Gold Attack (boosted) is only 26,994?

Shouldn't my Quick attack be at least 27,637 my base attack strength?

I have 46k attack, free attack is 31k and the gold attack is 43k. I don't really know how to make of these figures though.

At level 5 boss and I think my plateau with 13 hits strategy should be around level 9-10 boss as currently my level 5 boss only gets tickled with my gold attack.

GetItOn
07-24-2012, 10:29 PM
I have 46k attack, free attack is 31k and the gold attack is 43k. I don't really know how to make of these figures though.

At level 5 boss and I think my plateau with 13 hits strategy should be around level 9-10 boss as currently my level 5 boss only gets tickled with my gold attack.

Ok I feel better that your damages are skewed like that too, my game isn't jacked or something. : )

Yeah I dunno when the bosses are really gonna take that 2 hr thing. I just finished lvl 9 and I forgot to record my number of hits... I think around 5 or 6 Gold hits.

Hobtuse
07-24-2012, 10:37 PM
Ok I feel better that your damages are skewed like that too, my game isn't jacked or something. : )

Yeah I dunno when the bosses are really gonna take that 2 hr thing. I just finished lvl 9 and I forgot to record my number of hits... I think around 5 or 6 Gold hits.

It's still pretty cool for you. You can probably hit level 20 without using gems.

But my boss has way too much hp as compared to yours... I kill the level 5 boss in more hits than you need for your level 9 boss..

So what do I need to do? Haha. Not sure there is much I can do to improve my attack already since everything is marginal at 47k attack n upwards

Timbathia
07-24-2012, 11:20 PM
The triggers for the epic boss seem odd. I have found twice now that the trigger has simply been clicking the invade button on my rival list (the one that takes you to their kingdom, not actually attacks or raids anything). Has anyone else seen this? It might be good for those not wanting to level up to just keep visit different rivals using the invade option without actually raiding or attacking until the boss comes up.

From my ipad this is confirmed. Just triggered another epic boss fight simply by clicking invade to go to a rivals kingdoms. Good news for those not wanting experience points so they level up.

Funkey monkey
07-25-2012, 04:01 AM
Are the attack damages on a different scale? I have 27,637 attack but a Quick Attack (Unboosted) is 18.8k and a Gold Attack (boosted) is only 26,994?

Shouldn't my Quick attack be at least 27,637 my base attack strength?

Where do you go to see the attack value you are bringing into the fight – Free Quick unboosted compared to Gold boosted?

I know that raising my ally count will make my gross attack score go up, but has anyone confirmed that raising your gross attack score and decreasing your comparative attack score to your level and allies (gross compared to density) will help you in the fights against the boss? Shouldn't you be able to test to keep your ally count and wait until you can no longer defeat the boss and then raise your ally count to max and try to fight the boss in the two hour limit using the same attack method?

Hello Kitty
07-25-2012, 05:42 AM
I forgot to mention that when you level up, your health bar is completely replenished (at least in MW it does), so you may want to time those levels correctly too. May get an extra boss that way.

Everson25
07-25-2012, 06:15 AM
I forgot to mention that when you level up, your health bar is completely replenished (at least in MW it does), so you may want to time those levels correctly too. May get an extra boss that way.Hi HK! Another player on the other thread has just posted that it's not replenishing the full health levelling up. I was ready to do that but I want to check if someone else got the same situation.

Everson25
07-25-2012, 06:23 AM
So the health refill doesn't completely restore your health, like it does in MW? That sucks.

FYI, they also merged the level up trick. I leveled up whOoen I beat a boss and got XP, then decided to trigger another boss since I figured I had a full bar of health. No dice, my health was exactly the same as it had been before--26 percent. They clearly want to bleed KA players dry by closing off all the loopholes that are in MW. that was the original comment.

YLL
07-25-2012, 06:24 AM
From my ipad this is confirmed. Just triggered another epic boss fight simply by clicking invade to go to a rivals kingdoms. Good news for those not wanting experience points so they level up.

Hi Timbathia! This doesn't seem to work for me, invaded at least a few dozen people already and haven't triggered a boss yet.

EDIT: But attacking someone seems to virtually guarantee a boss appearance, unlike monster killing.

Hello Kitty
07-25-2012, 06:25 AM
Hi HK! Another player on the other thread has just posted that it's not replenishing the full health levelling up. I was ready to do that but I want to check if someone else got the same situation.Thanks Ev! Good to know...I was saving a level up for a boss. Yikes!

Funkey monkey
07-25-2012, 09:18 AM
Anyone else have trouble attacking a boss and no damage is done to you or the boss? They just play swords. I kept saying to my guy get in there and crush him but they just wanted to have fun and play. I lost my last two attack attempts. I have to start over on # 9.

Guido69
07-25-2012, 09:31 AM
Is there a way to make the boss leave before the 2 hours are up?

Once I trigger the event the 2 hour clock starts but I am not at full strength. I would like to wait until I am full health and then start attacking. However, once at full health the timer is way down. Can I force him to leave somehow, so I can start a new boss battle with full health?

Crazy Canuck
07-25-2012, 09:40 AM
Thanks Ev! Good to know...I was saving a level up for a boss. Yikes!It didn't replenish my health when I leveled up. Was very disappointed to see that. Please funzio/glee change this

asdfg12345
07-25-2012, 09:45 AM
I keep on getting the boss every time i vault lol

Hello Kitty
07-25-2012, 11:05 AM
Is there a way to make the boss leave before the 2 hours are up?

Once I trigger the event the 2 hour clock starts but I am not at full strength. I would like to wait until I am full health and then start attacking. However, once at full health the timer is way down. Can I force him to leave somehow, so I can start a new boss battle with full health?Not that I'm aware of - you have to wait him out. I'm not kidding this is a time commitment...in MW I actually used my cell phone timer to remind me when he was ready. Itís really frustrating when you forget and do quest to launch him. Argh!

GetItOn
07-25-2012, 11:07 AM
I keep on getting the boss every time i vault lol

I was browsing thru my armors and it triggered earlier this morning. haha

The_Legend_Shall_Live_On
07-25-2012, 11:15 AM
I'm about to start boss 15. Anyone know how much life he has?

GetItOn
07-25-2012, 11:29 AM
Not that I'm aware of - you have to wait him out. I'm not kidding this is a time commitment...in MW I actually used my cell phone timer to remind me when he was ready. It’s really frustrating when you forget and do quest to launch him. Argh!

omg you're a genius. I didn't think of using my cp timer. Now I don't have to look at a clock, it's automatically going to go off like the 4th of July in 26 mins now. haha

Guido69
07-25-2012, 11:30 AM
Not that I'm aware of - you have to wait him out. I'm not kidding this is a time commitment...in MW I actually used my cell phone timer to remind me when he was ready. It’s really frustrating when you forget and do quest to launch him. Argh!

I see, thx

btw, it seems I trigger the event just by touching my iPad :)

GetItOn
07-25-2012, 11:32 AM
btw, it seems I trigger the event just by touching my iPad :)

LoL my dirty mind has me cracking up over that.

Hello Kitty
07-25-2012, 12:05 PM
omg you're a genius. I didn't think of using my cp timer. Now I don't have to look at a clock, it's automatically going to go off like the 4th of July in 26 mins now. hahaLmao GIO! Or just the opposite...I think I've lost my mind to do that :D. All fun though. Bahaha.

Timbathia
07-25-2012, 01:43 PM
Hi Timbathia! This doesn't seem to work for me, invaded at least a few dozen people already and haven't triggered a boss yet.

EDIT: But attacking someone seems to virtually guarantee a boss appearance, unlike monster killing.

Today i have had to actually raid or attack someone to trigger, though admittedly it only took one each time. Pve is a poor way to trigger. That being said, they have certainly got people pvping whereas before this event it was not happening at all. Almost every kingdom i go too has buildings levelled to the ground. I am actually getting attacked as well during this event whereas in the last month it has only happened about once (unsuccessfully so far mind you).

GetItOn
07-25-2012, 01:57 PM
Lmao GIO! Or just the opposite...I think I've lost my mind to do that :D. All fun though. Bahaha.

It's quick and effective. Takes like 1 min out of every 26 to attack. Tho I'm gonna be hitting my plateau soon, where 13 hits might not be enough.. It's also a good way to start collecting on those Farms! haha

Hello Kitty
07-25-2012, 02:38 PM
It's quick and effective. Takes like 1 min out of every 26 to attack. Tho I'm gonna be hitting my plateau soon, where 13 hits might not be enough.. It's also a good way to start collecting on those Farms! hahaI'm waiting for boss 10 to go away so I can relaunch him...had to see for myself that leveling wouldn't give a full health bar. Sure enough, no full health bar. It only cost me an extra 20 minutes to find this disappointment...:rolleyes:

Hobtuse
07-25-2012, 05:05 PM
I'm waiting for boss 10 to go away so I can relaunch him...had to see for myself that leveling wouldn't give a full health bar. Sure enough, no full health bar. It only cost me an extra 20 minutes to find this disappointment...:rolleyes:

does levelling make the boss harder?

Hello Kitty
07-25-2012, 06:07 PM
Hey hob - no change for boss on a level up for me. Finished boss 10 - all free hits so far. 9 commons, 1 uncommon...come on rare!

Updated stats:
http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37679-Beat-the-Boss-(for-when-it-shows-up-in-KA)&p=345529&viewfull=1#post345529

Hobtuse
07-25-2012, 07:07 PM
Hey hob - no change for boss on a level up for me. Finished boss 10 - all free hits so far. 9 commons, 1 uncommon...come on rare!

Updated stats:
http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37679-Beat-the-Boss-(for-when-it-shows-up-in-KA)&p=345529&viewfull=1#post345529

thanks! good luck with the rares~!

GetItOn
07-25-2012, 07:29 PM
Hey hob - no change for boss on a level up for me. Finished boss 10 - all free hits so far. 9 commons, 1 uncommon...come on rare!

You're in the same boat as me. 3 Uncommons, 13 Commons. Booooooooo Boss 16 took me I believe 9 Gold hits.

Skoty422
07-25-2012, 07:39 PM
I'm level 83. Have 22345 attack and I am on boss 7. I have hit him 9 times with gold hits and it seems like I will have to hit him at least 2, maybe 3 more times. I think boss 8 is going to be out of my league. If not 8, then boss 9 for sure! I believe the 40 kills are almost impossible even using gold hits. And to think of the poor people that don't know to wait the extra minute for the extra hit. They are totally screwed without buying gems!!

Skoty422
07-25-2012, 07:41 PM
I forgot to mention I have 6 commons so far.

Jhoemel
07-25-2012, 07:46 PM
Im done with the boss event after level 9. Needed 12 cash hits to beat him. Ill try again next time

Guido69
07-25-2012, 08:05 PM
Just finished boss #14. Needed 11 cash hits and 1 free hit. One maybe two more.

Got 2 rares, 3 uncommons, and 9 commons so far

Jhoemel
07-25-2012, 08:10 PM
Just finished boss #14. Needed 11 cash hits and 1 free hit. One maybe two more.

Got 2 rares, 3 uncommons, and 9 commons so far

I didnt get a rare. just 3 uncommon and 6 commons

enahs1
07-25-2012, 08:16 PM
I'm level 83. Have 22345 attack and I am on boss 7. I have hit him 9 times with gold hits and it seems like I will have to hit him at least 2, maybe 3 more times. I think boss 8 is going to be out of my league. If not 8, then boss 9 for sure! I believe the 40 kills are almost impossible even using gold hits. And to think of the poor people that don't know to wait the extra minute for the extra hit. They are totally screwed without buying gems!!
I am with you on this one. I am level 81 with around a 28k attack and I am on boss 7 but I will have trouble with boss 8

Zesder
07-25-2012, 08:49 PM
I can confirm that you do gain XP from killing the boss.
I just leveled up on my last hit on him and the level up screen covered up the screen to tell me what troop I won. Pretty sure it was just a regular troop.

MaverickMunkey
07-25-2012, 09:45 PM
I am with you on this one. I am level 81 with around a 28k attack and I am on boss 7 but I will have trouble with boss 8

I want to join this club!

I am level 83 with 31K attack and it is taking me 9 hits on level 8 boss - except for the fact that i keep forgetting to go back in time as I am at work and go over the 2 hour mark so keep having to restart it!

EthanQ
07-26-2012, 01:46 AM
Hey marebear and enahs1, great tips on how to defeat the boss with 13 hits. But I have a question, after 1:32 why do you have to wait for 34 mins not 26 mins?

DIrishB
07-26-2012, 03:19 AM
Quick question as I've just started the boss event and only killed him once so far, on the quest screen it says you need to kill bosses to get the boss events to show up... This means killing any old monsters won't work and we need to kill the map bosses to make it work, right? Or am I remembering it wrong and killing any monster will make it appear at random?

d_nickels
07-26-2012, 03:21 AM
Doing anything can make the boss event pop up. Some people even report clicking on the screen while searching their inventory triggered it. I suggest just playing normally, pvp and killing normal critters and it'll pop up soon enough.

DIrishB
07-26-2012, 03:40 AM
Yup, have gotten it to pop up from any monsters in PvE (though not on the first few maps--tried those first thinking I was going to need to spare Energy if the boss pop ups were rare... They're not, least not yet). Also triggered it several times by switching maps. I'm up to 5 now, but need to give my character time to replenish his health.

echus14
07-26-2012, 03:47 AM
So far, one sure way to trigger it that was earlier reported by another forum member, is to do the particular quest ... ie, hit the particular thing with the big green arrow pointing at it.

DIrishB
07-26-2012, 03:47 AM
Where are the med packs that've been mentioned available? I didn't see them in the store anywhere (maybe I missed them), or do they show up only when you've run out of health? Just wondering. I assume they're gem items as opposed to gold, right?

Hello Kitty
07-26-2012, 03:56 AM
Where are the med packs that've been mentioned available? I didn't see them in the store anywhere (maybe I missed them), or do they show up only when you've run out of health? Just wondering. I assume they're gem items as opposed to gold, right?Not in the store. Yes, available when you run out of health and waiting to regenerate health. In KA, they are called Cure Potion (10 gems).

DIrishB
07-26-2012, 04:02 AM
Not in the store. Yes, available when you run out of health and waiting to regenerate health. In KA, they are called Cure Potion (10 gems).

Ah ok, thank HK.

I'm lvl 59, and completed 5 bosses. So far the gold option hasn't been more than a few hundred per hit. Ive read higher level players posts saying they're on 8-11 bosses and having to pay thousands or even tens of thousands per hit. Is this based on level, as the implication from most of these posts indicates lower level players will be at an advantage? That seems really unfair and lopsided for the players who've put the time in to level up that high, besides the ludicrous amount of gems that'd be needed once you get between 30 - 40.

Is this nit the case in MW, as many have said those boss events are preferable to this one?

Hello Kitty
07-26-2012, 04:12 AM
Hey Dirish - I think that the KA folks are seeing the same behavior for the boss as in MW. The high level players (100's) are not having any success with boss and having to pay in the 10k's to do any hits. Most can't get past boss 10, if that lucky. Very lopsided and very unfair.

I'm level 68 and not experiencing that issue. Boss 12 is 975 gold per hit for me.

DIrishB
07-26-2012, 04:30 AM
Yeah saw your chart on gold costs per boss level, very helpful, thanks for taking the time to do that. Also appreciate the heads up on the 26 minute trick (whoever mentioned that, VERY helpful). We'll see what people can get to based on level and Attack scores in 4 days when the event is over, should be interesting.

While this does have it's downside for high level players (something they'll hopefully adjust in future boss events), I'm preferring this to the box events as the common, uncommon, rare prizes at least help lower level players. I do think they should increase the odds of uncommons or rares for higher level players to actually make their drops have a noticeably increase for their Attack scores.

But other than that so far I'm enjoying it.

Funkey monkey
07-26-2012, 06:13 AM
I know that raising my ally count will make my gross attack score go up, but has anyone confirmed that raising your gross attack score and decreasing your comparative attack score to your level and allies (gross compared to density) will help you in the fights against the boss? Shouldn't you be able to test to keep your ally count and wait until you can no longer defeat the boss and then raise your ally count to max and try to fight the boss in the two hour limit using the same attack method?

I couldn't defeat boss 11 with 88 allies level 30 with 13 gold hits. I went up to 149 allies with less density and beat boss 11 with 11 hits. Next, I'm going to spend 100,000 on high attack weapons. Bummer part is I only got a 5/18 Arena Caravan.

ChaosRules
07-26-2012, 02:53 PM
I think I'm done after boss 12. I didn't take all of the time avail but it was close. I was up to $1,050 cash per hit (or $975?).

11 commons and 1 rare (Fighting Spirit on boss 11).

Guido69
07-26-2012, 03:28 PM
I have finished boss #16 but that was the end of the line for me. I got 2 rares, 4 uncommons, and 10 commons.

The_Red
07-26-2012, 03:34 PM
0 rares. 11 clears.

d_nickels
07-26-2012, 03:45 PM
I'm done after only beating 7 bosses. The 7th took me 15 cash hits. No way I'm spending more gems on this to just get a few more crappy units. Chests are a much better buy than this event, IMHO.

I'm level 108 with 51k attack and 315 allies.

GetItOn
07-26-2012, 04:29 PM
Hey Dirish - I think that the KA folks are seeing the same behavior for the boss as in MW. The high level players (100's) are not having any success with boss and having to pay in the 10k's to do any hits. Most can't get past boss 10, if that lucky. Very lopsided and very unfair.

I'm level 68 and not experiencing that issue. Boss 12 is 975 gold per hit for me.

I just peaked on beating Boss 18 with all gold hits at lvl 74. #19 is going to start requiring gems to go any further. I'm already at max ally capacity with weps/armor. And units are down to 25-30 more attk a ally.

3 Uncommons and 15 Commons. Meh. It's fun I'll just hope to get luckier next time!

NightDragon
07-26-2012, 04:33 PM
im stuck on 5 guess i should have added more mafia before this... 14k attack with 100 mafia

Hello Kitty
07-26-2012, 04:34 PM
I just peaked on beating Boss 18 with all gold hits at lvl 74. #19 is going to start requiring gems to go any further.
3 Uncommons and 15 Commons. Meh. It's fun I'll just hope to get luckier next time!That's the furthest I've heard so far. Congrats GIO!

Boss 15 is up next for me, I think he'll be the last before I would have to use gems. 2 Uncommons and 12 Commons for $38,250. Guess that fair trade for 2 indestructables that I can take into battle. I've outgrown the Commons and can't use them.

Updated results: http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37679-Beat-the-Boss-(for-when-it-shows-up-in-KA)&p=345529&viewfull=1#post345529

GetItOn
07-26-2012, 04:54 PM
That's the furthest I've heard so far. Congrats GIO!

Boss 15 is up next for me, I think he'll be the last before I would have to use gems. 2 Uncommons and 12 Commons for $38,250. Guess that fair trade for 2 indestructables that I can take into battle. I've outgrown the Commons and can't use them.

Thx HK. I think it's worth it if you can hit a Rare or two.. I didn't keep track of my gold spent, but I probably could have easily just bought regular units for a better increase in stats. But like I said, it was fun and the different unit types in inventory is nice. No harm done either way. I didn't have to spend 1500 gems to compete and the gold amount isn't that big of a deal. Just gotta look for a juicy pvp target now and they're self-paid for! ;-)

Good luck on yer next couple bosses! Give'em Kitty Hell!

Crazy Canuck
07-26-2012, 04:54 PM
I was able to get threw 14 for free got 2 rares, 4 uncommons and 8 common.

Did 1 boss so far with cure potion got another uncommon, will do a couple more cure potion bosses while price is still low if I keep getting uncommons and rares. Would like to get the rare unit Pit Challenge just to have 1 of each type of unit

GetItOn
07-26-2012, 04:59 PM
I was able to get threw 14 for free got 2 rares, 4 uncommons and 8 common.

Did 1 boss so far with cure potion got another uncommon, will do a couple more cure potion bosses while price is still low if I keep getting uncommons and rares. Would like to get the rare unit Pit Challenge just to have 1 of each type of unit

That's some good luck right there, Canuck! I really think they should increase the odds a bit on Rare/Uncommons the higher up the bosses you go. That would motivate me to try for a couple extra. But like 20-40 gems for a unit I won't use is a waste.

Crazy Canuck
07-26-2012, 05:02 PM
For next boss event I would suggest they drop it down to 30 bosses needed for end prize, give full health after lvl up and increase the stats some on the units one.

Let's face it the common do no good for anyone that would be able to go deep on this event. I think even the uncommon would be close to useless if you where in a position to hit the end boss, that or your just ready to fork over a lot of gems to get there

Hello Kitty
07-26-2012, 05:21 PM
Thx HK. I think it's worth it if you can hit a Rare or two.. I didn't keep track of my gold spent, but I probably could have easily just bought regular units for a better increase in stats. But like I said, it was fun and the different unit types in inventory is nice. No harm done either way. I didn't have to spend 1500 gems to compete and the gold amount isn't that big of a deal. Just gotta look for a juicy pvp target now and they're self-paid for! ;-)

Good luck on yer next couple bosses! Give'em Kitty Hell!LOL. Thanks GIO. Just started Boss 15…

I was doing some attacks earlier and guess I inadvertently hit up the same golden cow again that I mentioned the other day…9900 gold per hit. He was pretty steamed this go around and left a pretty angry rant on my wall. Got him again for 168k gold. I don’t target rivals ever - just click on attack, look at stats and vault and if it’s worthy and I can beat the rival, then I attack. Rarely look at names! Oops. :rolleyes:

GetItOn
07-26-2012, 05:36 PM
LOL. Thanks GIO. Just started Boss 15Ö

I was doing some attacks earlier and guess I inadvertently hit up the same golden cow again that I mentioned the other dayÖ9900 gold per hit. He was pretty steamed this go around and left a pretty angry rant on my wall. Got him again for 168k gold. I donít target rivals ever - just click on attack, look at stats and vault and if itís worthy and I can beat the rival, then I attack. Rarely look at names! Oops. :rolleyes:

You are SO lucky with those! The last day and a half the best I've gotten is 6k and 4k hits. Most ppl don't even have over 20k I see.. Like this guy I just checked, 119 gold total. Seriously?! Save up more gold ppl!! 21k, 14k, 22k, 27k, 14k... 160k! oh wait it's vaulted and I lost a F.Cata and a High Priest. omg I'm gonna level some poor chaps kingdom out of frustration soon.

Hello Kitty
07-26-2012, 05:43 PM
You are SO lucky with those! The last day and a half the best I've gotten is 6k and 4k hits. Most ppl don't even have over 20k I see.. Like this guy I just checked, 119 gold total. Seriously?! Save up more gold ppl!! 21k, 14k, 22k, 27k, 14k... 160k! oh wait it's vaulted and I lost a F.Cata and a High Priest. omg I'm gonna level some poor chaps kingdom out of frustration soon.Bahahaha! That does feel good too, but I only save leveling for the foul mouth wall posts if I'm lucky to be stronger. This guy was just mad - he had 520k in vault and I guess this is the 3rd time I've hit him up (over what period, I don't know). First my eyes bug at the overvault amount then I look at his stats, he's half my stats, next it's "oh, goody, it's my lucky day!"

The_Legend_Shall_Live_On
07-26-2012, 05:50 PM
I just peaked on beating Boss 18 with all gold hits at lvl 74. #19 is going to start requiring gems to go any further. I'm already at max ally capacity with weps/armor. And units are down to 25-30 more attk a ally.

3 Uncommons and 15 Commons. Meh. It's fun I'll just hope to get luckier next time!

I'm in your boat, too. I finished 18 (2 rare, 4 uncommon, 12 common) without gems. Hit 19 with the first 5 hits, and only got his life bar down a 1/3rd or less. Would take at least 3.5 of my life bars being full to tackle him.

Good luck to everyone else!

GetItOn
07-26-2012, 05:53 PM
Bahahaha! That does feel good too, but I only save leveling for the foul mouth wall posts if I'm lucky to be stronger. This guy was just mad - he had 520k in vault and I guess this is the 3rd time I've hit him up (over what period, I don't know). First my eyes bug at the overvault amount then I look at his stats, he's half my stats, next it's "oh, goody, it's my lucky day!"

I wanna know how he's getting so much all the time! Say I'll stop attacking if you tell me how you have 500k gold every other day. LoL

On a side note, I've accumulated a net gain of -6.3k in an hour of searching. My only positive attack gained me 25 gold. Woohoo

On a side-side note, do you notice how many ppl are named Daddy something? Omg I see Daddy, Pappy, Papa, MeDaddy, Daddy2, Da Da, Dad, YourDaddy, MyDaddy, Dad1964, etc. At least 3 on every Battle List. And none of them have stockpiled gold!

Crazy Canuck
07-26-2012, 06:01 PM
Bahahaha! That does feel good too, but I only save leveling for the foul mouth wall posts if I'm lucky to be stronger. This guy was just mad - he had 520k in vault and I guess this is the 3rd time I've hit him up (over what period, I don't know). First my eyes bug at the overvault amount then I look at his stats, he's half my stats, next it's "oh, goody, it's my lucky day!"Who is this? I need gold!

Hello Kitty
07-26-2012, 06:20 PM
Too bad on your net loss GIO :(

I've noticed the dad theme too. Today I got a popup window on my iPad that cracked me up...Jesus wanted to join my army.

Check out my news feed CC...

Zesder
07-26-2012, 07:25 PM
Talk about wierdness. I got attacked by myself this morning.
My Havok character got attacked by HAVOK.

enahs1
07-26-2012, 07:31 PM
Please add me 711-985-372
I am trying a boss on my camping account

GetItOn
07-26-2012, 08:30 PM
Too bad on your net loss GIO :(

I've noticed the dad theme too. Today I got a popup window on my iPad that cracked me up...Jesus wanted to join my army.

Check out my news feed CC...

That's one strong ally. LoL

echus14
07-26-2012, 09:11 PM
Talk about wierdness. I got attacked by myself this morning.
My Havok character got attacked by HAVOK.

Haha ... pls stop beating yourself up about it!

echus14
07-26-2012, 09:15 PM
Another thing I noticed is the number of avatar names centred on ... erm ... size of parts of the anatomy or success with members of the opposite gender. Sounds almost like a trend that The_Red should expound upon. :)

Hobtuse
07-26-2012, 09:20 PM
I am actually hoping for the increase in stats. Want to at least clear more levels of the Epic Boss event.
Getting stuck at Level 6 is embarrassing.

GetItOn
07-26-2012, 09:43 PM
Another thing I noticed is the number of avatar names centred on ... erm ... size of parts of the anatomy or success with members of the opposite gender. Sounds almost like a trend that The_Red should expound upon. :)

My all time favorite kingdom name I saw once was "BusterHymen" haha I still laugh on that one.

Cool Fella
07-27-2012, 07:18 AM
Beat the Boss Attack Timeline
Just for those of you new to a boss event here's the attack timelines to get the 13 free hits.

2:00: Hit 1
1:59: Hit 2
1:59: Hit 3
1:58: Hit 4
1:58: Hit 5
1:32: Hit 6
1:32: Hit 7
1:06: Hit 8
1:06: Hit 9
0:40: Hit 10
0:40: Hit 11
0:14: Hit 12
0:14: Hit 13

Full recovery time: 1 hr, 40 minutes

If you get off schedule:

Wait 26 minutes before giving him 2 hits

Things to Remember:
- You have a maximum of 100 health points
- Each attack takes 25 health points from you
- Health points regenerate at 1 hp per minute (unless you have boost, then 1 hp every 48 seconds)
- If you retreat with less than 25 health points, you cannot attack until your health is at least 25
- Each medpack you buy increases the max number of hits you can get in within the 2 hour limit by 5 if you wait 1 minute after the first 3 attacks


I tried this strategy but I am one attack short. The timeline shows a total of 13 attacks in 1:40 hours but I can only do 12 attacks and the remaining 20 minutes are not enough to recover. The timeline shows these first 5 attacks:

2:00: Hit 1
1:59: Hit 2
1:59: Hit 3
1:58: Hit 4
1:58: Hit 5

but I can only attack 4 times before I die.

The_Red
07-27-2012, 07:20 AM
My all time favorite kingdom name I saw once was "BusterHymen" haha I still laugh on that one.

My current favorite (for some reason) is "Eats of the Poo". I chortle every time I see it.

The_Red
07-27-2012, 07:23 AM
I tried this strategy but I am one attack short. The timeline shows a total of 13 attacks in 1:40 hours but I can only do 12 attacks and the remaining 20 minutes are not enough to recover. The timeline shows these first 5 attacks:

2:00: Hit 1
1:59: Hit 2
1:59: Hit 3
1:58: Hit 4
1:58: Hit 5

but I can only attack 4 times before I die.

I attack once (usually at 1:59:45) then wait a full min-1.5min to (1:58:15) and you can get your other 4 attacks in for 5 at the start. that assumes you're quick to enter to attack phase with the boss.

Cool Fella
07-27-2012, 07:46 AM
I attack once (usually at 1:59:45) then wait a full min-1.5min to (1:58:15) and you can get your other 4 attacks in for 5 at the start. that assumes you're quick to enter to attack phase with the boss.

Interesting...I will try it later and see what happens

Hello Kitty
07-27-2012, 07:56 AM
I tried this strategy but I am one attack short. The timeline shows a total of 13 attacks in 1:40 hours but I can only do 12 attacks and the remaining 20 minutes are not enough to recover. The timeline shows these first 5 attacks:

2:00: Hit 1
1:59: Hit 2
1:59: Hit 3
1:58: Hit 4
1:58: Hit 5

but I can only attack 4 times before I die.It's not so much about the precise time as it is to ensure that you let time pass to get your extra hit. Your health bar is 100 units. Each boss hit uses 25 health units. It takes 1 minute to generate 1 health unit - you need a minimum of 1 health unit to make a hit.

First 5 hits:
Once you launch boss, you're timer will state 1h:59m:xxs. Take your first 3 hits (75 units) and wait a minimum of 1 minute (to at least generate 1 unit - I usually wait 2 minutes for 2 health units to be safe). Then take 2 more hits (25 health units and 1 or 2 health units).

Next 2 hits:
After your first 5 hits, the health timer will lock you out to generate a minimum of another 25 health units (health timer will state 24m:xxs). Add another 1-2 minutes to genereate your extra 1 or 2 health units. So at 26 or 27 minutes after your 5th hit, you can take another 2 hits (25 health units + 1 or 2 health units).

Next 6 hits:
Rinse and repeat the 2 hit process above. You will be able to do this 3 more times. At this point you will get your 13 hits in about 1h:30m:xx or less of elapsed time.

Extra - Final 2 hits and Gems with Final 2 hits:
If you've followed the elapsed timer pretty rigidly, then on the final 2 hits you should have about 10 minutes or less left to kill boss. Instead of taking your final 2 hits immediately, you can use the last 5-7 minutes or so to add to the final hit and have a 25 unit hit + a 10 unit hit (not sure if the hits are equally weighted or get stronger with health units). 13 hits strategy ends here.

If you chose to continue with gems, be careful to not erode your end buffer and you should have about 7 - 10 minutes to kill boss. Take your final 2 hits as prescribed above, then purchase a Cure Potion for 10 gems. You will receive 1/2 a health bar (50 health units). Take 1 hit (25 health units), wait 1 to 2 minutes to get your extra hit, then take 2 more hits (25 health units + 1 to 2 health units). 16 hits for 10 gems.

By managing your elapsed time precisely, you may be able to get up to ~25 hits using 40 gems.


Note: If you are at less than 25 health units and you leave the battle scene with boss, you will be locked out until you get back to 25 health units. Be careful to not waste that 1 or 2 healt unit extra hit.

Cool Fella
07-27-2012, 08:37 AM
It's not so much about the precise time as it is to ensure that you let time pass to get your extra hit. Your health bar is 100 units. Each boss hit uses 25 health units. It takes 1 minute to generate 1 health unit - you need a minimum of 1 health unit to make a hit.

First 5 hits:
Once you launch boss, you're timer will state 1h:59m:xxs. Take your first 3 hits (75 units) and wait a minimum of 1 minute (to at least generate 1 unit - I usually wait 2 minutes for 2 health units to be safe). Then take 2 more hits (25 health units and 1 or 2 health units).

Next 2 hits:
After your first 5 hits, the health timer will lock you out to generate a minimum of another 25 health units (health timer will state 24m:xxs). Add another 1-2 minutes to genereate your extra 1 or 2 health units. So at 26 or 27 minutes after your 5th hit, you can take another 2 hits (25 health units + 1 or 2 health units).

Next 6 hits:

Rinse and repeat the 2 hit process above. You will be able to do this 3 more times. Be careful to not erode your end buffer and you have about 7 - 10 minutes to use gems if you so choose. Or you can use these last minutes to add to the final 2 hits and have a 25 unit hit + a 10 unit hit (not sure if the hits are equally weighted or get stronger with health units).

Note: If you are at less than 25 health units and you leave the battle scene with boss, you will be locked out until you get back to 25 health units. Be careful to not waste that 1 or 2 healt unit extra hit.



Great Kitty!!! I am waiting to recover from my last failed attempt to try again...Thanks

Hello Kitty
07-27-2012, 08:42 AM
Great Kitty!!! I am waiting to recover from my last failed attempt to try again...ThanksGood luck CF! I'm modifying my post for the last 2 hits strategy...I just tested the cure potion on boss 16.

DIrishB
07-27-2012, 02:10 PM
Technically we do have defense boost buildings in the Guard and Cannon Towers. These increase your overall Army Defense, don't they? And by upgrading them you get to increase their effectiveness. Of course, the percentage increase on the boost buildings is probably better overall (fully upgraded you can get a 20% boost, right?), so thats probably a more effective increase overall (especially with Attack scores over 100k).

Cool Fella
07-27-2012, 02:12 PM
May I have at least 1 rare, please? :) Up to boss 17: 5 uncommon, 12 commons. Boss 16 & 17 required gems.

Updated tracker: http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37679-Beat-the-Boss-(for-when-it-shows-up-in-KA)&p=345529&viewfull=1#post345529

For those who are into upgrading the boost buildings, I was able to confirm that it only boosts Attack stats and not Defense stats (check out my tracker data). Since the start of this event, I've leveled up the Beast Kennel (beast boost) and Engineering Academy (machine boost) by 1 level each - only my Attack scores were affected. Wish we had a defense boost building like in MW!


No a single rare?? that sucks...I got one :)

d_nickels
07-27-2012, 04:47 PM
May I have at least 1 rare, please? :) Up to boss 17: 5 uncommon, 12 commons. Boss 16 & 17 required gems.

Updated tracker: http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37679-Beat-the-Boss-(for-when-it-shows-up-in-KA)&p=345529&viewfull=1#post345529

For those who are into upgrading the boost buildings, I was able to confirm that it only boosts Attack stats and not Defense stats (check out my tracker data). Since the start of this event, I've leveled up the Beast Kennel (beast boost) and Engineering Academy (machine boost) by 1 level each - only my Attack scores were affected. Wish we had a defense boost building like in MW!

Is it possible you don't have any beasts or machines in your defense setup? I upgraded my beast boost building and my atk and def both went up. My def only went up a small amount comparatively though because I don't bring many beasts in when defending.

Hobtuse
07-27-2012, 04:56 PM
@Hello Kitty: where do you reckon is the final level you will stop at?

no rares yet? does the uncommons go into your army?

I'm finishing up my level 7 boss now.. i deal about 50k gold hits and it takes 13 hits to kill it.. so I think level 7 is it.

Hello Kitty
07-27-2012, 05:12 PM
@Hello Kitty: where do you reckon is the final level you will stop at?

no rares yet? does the uncommons go into your army?

I'm finishing up my level 7 boss now.. i deal about 50k gold hits and it takes 13 hits to kill it.. so I think level 7 is it.I'm not sure Hob - maybe when I get my first rare? I'm completely eating my words now...I wasn't going to use gems after I was done with free and gold. :) Playing for the fun of it to see how far it'll go.

The_Red
07-27-2012, 05:24 PM
Finished out mine at 13 - 0 rares. Whee!

Hobtuse
07-27-2012, 05:31 PM
I'm not sure Hob - maybe when I get my first rare? I'm completely eating my words now...I wasn't going to use gems after I was done with free and gold. :) Playing for the fun of it to see how far it'll go.

My 2nd attempt at the level 7 boss looks like ... it's gonna fail.. 51k attack and 13 hits and a little silver of life left. haha.. zZz

Hello Kitty
07-27-2012, 05:44 PM
My 2nd attempt at the level 7 boss looks like ... it's gonna fail.. 51k attack and 13 hits and a little silver of life left. haha.. zZz7 is pretty brutal. Do you play MW?

Now I'm having a problem launching him. He finally showed up after 9 minutes of elapsed time had passed...grrrrr!

Hobtuse
07-27-2012, 05:51 PM
7 is pretty brutal. Do you play MW?

Now I'm having a problem launching him. He finally showed up after 9 minutes of elapsed time had passed...grrrrr
Nope only KA. Does the boss increase in hp as I add attack?

13 x 51500 = 669500 .. So the boss at least has this much hp... as compared to the joker bosses most people have..

Hello Kitty
07-27-2012, 06:04 PM
Nope only KA. Does the boss increase in hp as I add attack?

13 x 51500 = 669500 .. So the boss at least has this much hp... as compared to the joker bosses most people have..Yes, I've noticed boss also gets proportionally stronger as I added attack, thought I did notice it made me strong enough to save a hit. Between boss 13 and 14, I added 600 attack. Boss went up 600 as well, but both bosses only took 12 hits to kill. Fluke?

Crazy Canuck
07-27-2012, 06:29 PM
May I have at least 1 rare, please? :) Up to boss 17: 5 uncommon, 12 commons. Boss 16 & 17 required gems.

Updated tracker: http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37679-Beat-the-Boss-(for-when-it-shows-up-in-KA)&p=345529&viewfull=1#post345529

For those who are into upgrading the boost buildings, I was able to confirm that it only boosts Attack stats and not Defense stats (check out my tracker data). Since the start of this event, I've leveled up the Beast Kennel (beast boost) and Engineering Academy (machine boost) by 1 level each - only my Attack scores were affected. Wish we had a defense boost building like in MW! I just finished upgrading my temple (magic boost) and my defense increased from 20401 to 20523

MaverickMunkey
07-27-2012, 06:58 PM
Alright, then my buildings must be broken...:(

Do the boost buildings work for all units (indestructible and gold purchase) or just on the units purchased in game with the corresponding unit buildings - ie the temple only raises units from the magic buildings?

Crazy Canuck
07-27-2012, 07:26 PM
Do the boost buildings work for all units (indestructible and gold purchase) or just on the units purchased in game with the corresponding unit buildings - ie the temple only raises units from the magic buildings? to my knowledge it boost all units that fall under that category. So temple boost all magic units not matter if bought with gold, gems or won in events

Hello Kitty
07-27-2012, 07:31 PM
Do the boost buildings work for all units (indestructible and gold purchase) or just on the units purchased in game with the corresponding unit buildings - ie the temple only raises units from the magic buildings?I concur with CC, boosts work on all units by type:

Blacksmith - infantry
Temple - magic
Beast Kennel - beast
Engineering Acadamy - machine

And apologies everyone - I'm deleting my other post so I don't throw anyone off. My buildings work fine. The spreadsheet operator was broken and I had the wrong calculations.

Boosts enhanced both Attack and Defense for me.

GetItOn
07-27-2012, 07:39 PM
Boosts enhanced both Attack and Defense for me.

That took you forever to finally believe me. :-p

Hello Kitty
07-27-2012, 07:40 PM
That took you forever to finally believe me. :-pLOL. I need evidence. OK - maybe a little stubborn, you were right. I stand corrected. :p

GetItOn
07-27-2012, 08:02 PM
LOL. I need evidence. OK - maybe a little stubborn, you were right. I stand corrected. :p

I am overloading right now. Boss Event, new Box Event, Gem sale. I caved and killed boss 19. will be killing #20 in about an hour. LoL I have a problem.

Hello Kitty
07-27-2012, 08:21 PM
I am overloading right now. Boss Event, new Box Event, Gem sale. I caved and killed boss 19. will be killing #20 in about an hour. LoL I have a problem.Bahahah! I got you beat on this one :)

KA - boss, crates, sale, forum
MW - boss, forum
CC - crates

But I hear you on the breakdown! I'm on boss 19 now too.

EDIT: Just finished boss 19. Waiting for some health to get to boss 20...still no rare.

GetItOn
07-27-2012, 10:40 PM
Bahahah! I got you beat on this one :)

KA - boss, crates, sale, forum
MW - boss, forum
CC - crates

But I hear you on the breakdown! I'm on boss 19 now too.

EDIT: Just finished boss 19. Waiting for some health to get to boss 20...still no rare.

That's why I keep myself to just 1 or 2 games. I would implode trying to keep up with all those! Good luck on #20. I still have no Rares either. :(( 4 Uncommons 15 Commons. Grrrrr

Hello Kitty
07-27-2012, 10:46 PM
That's why I keep myself to just 1 or 2 games. I would implode trying to keep up with all those! Good luck on #20. I still have no Rares either. :(( 4 Uncommons 15 Commons. GrrrrrMe too GIO! No rares- 6 uncommon, 13 commons. Grrr! I'm about to implode for sure. Too much.

GetItOn
07-27-2012, 11:24 PM
Me too GIO! No rares- 6 uncommon, 13 commons. Grrr! I'm about to implode for sure. Too much.

A part of me wants to keep going until I finally get that Rare! LoL

Hello Kitty
07-27-2012, 11:51 PM
A part of me wants to keep going until I finally get that Rare! LoLLol! That's exactly what I told Hob earlier. I'll stop when I get the rare (famous last words...hehehe :rolleyes:)

GetItOn
07-27-2012, 11:53 PM
Lol! That's exactly what I told Hob earlier. I'll stop when I get the rare (famous last words...hehehe :rolleyes:)

haha yep. On Boss 38 it's like what have I done?!

Hobtuse
07-27-2012, 11:57 PM
@HK: Still no rare?!!?!?! Read reports of people having 4 rares, can't remember who though.

I might have the one-shot chance of getting a rare before you. Haha.

Hello Kitty
07-28-2012, 12:04 AM
haha yep. On Boss 38 it's like what have I done?!Then you'll say, only 2 more to go.

Yup Hob - this boss doesn't favor me at all! Neither do the druid boxes for that matter. Maybe I should sit out this weekend...after 1 more boss though. Ha.

Futon
07-28-2012, 12:09 AM
I got the best rare on the 4th time. I'm on like the 8th lvl now and i can't even be bothered to waste the time doing it. It's kind of a dumb event, not at all what I expected.

Hobtuse
07-28-2012, 12:11 AM
this boss event will likely be improved in its next iteration...

either they make it tougher for the lower levels, or easier for the higher levels.. and in addition, reduce it to 30 or something..

GetItOn
07-28-2012, 01:54 AM
Then you'll say, only 2 more to go.

Yup Hob - this boss doesn't favor me at all! Neither do the druid boxes for that matter. Maybe I should sit out this weekend...after 1 more boss though. Ha.

I'm officially pulling the plug at #21. That took 2 gem hits and a health boost. Just too costly to continue.

Hello Kitty
07-28-2012, 08:26 AM
I'm officially pulling the plug at #21. That took 2 gem hits and a health boost. Just too costly to continue.Finally got my rare with Boss 20! Geez. Pit Challenge 61/97. Happy with that one...highest defense unit in the lot. For 90 gems I got 1 rare, 6 uncommons, 13 commons.

Boss 1 tracker: http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37679-Beat-the-Boss-(for-when-it-shows-up-in-KA)&p=345529&viewfull=1#post345529

Guido69
07-28-2012, 08:32 AM
Finally got my rare with Boss 20! Geez. Pit Challenge 61/97. Happy with that one...highest defense unit in the lot. For 90 gems I got 1 rare, 6 uncommons, 13 commons.

Boss 1 tracker: http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37679-Beat-the-Boss-(for-when-it-shows-up-in-KA)&p=345529&viewfull=1#post345529

Congrats :) Are you gonna continue?

Hello Kitty
07-28-2012, 08:34 AM
Congrats :) Are you gonna continue?Thank you!!! Argh Guido! I don't want to but my compulsion is tugging at me...:D

Hobtuse
07-28-2012, 08:35 AM
Finally got my rare with Boss 20! Geez. Pit Challenge 61/97. Happy with that one...highest defense unit in the lot. For 90 gems I got 1 rare, 6 uncommons, 13 commons.

Boss 1 tracker: http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37679-Beat-the-Boss-(for-when-it-shows-up-in-KA)&p=345529&viewfull=1#post345529

CONGRATS~!
just 1 more... :)

Hello Kitty
07-28-2012, 08:58 AM
CONGRATS~!
just 1 more... :)Bahahahaha. Full health bar at 12:30pm US EST. 30 minutes left to decide. :P

Crazy Canuck
07-28-2012, 09:15 AM
I got to 20 this morning and I think I'm done now! Last 3 units have all been the garbage pit Carvan common unit.

Overall didn't do 2 bad 3 rares, 6 uncommons and 11 commons all for 120 or 130 gems I think. I want the end prize but just do t think it would be worth the cost

Plus a new MW boss event is on now so I think I'll just focus on that one only need 30 boss wins for end prize and unit drops for each boss are better

GetItOn
07-28-2012, 10:31 AM
Bahahahaha. Full health bar at 12:30pm US EST. 30 minutes left to decide. :P

Don't do it !

Hello Kitty
07-28-2012, 10:33 AM
Don't do it !Too late :p I launched him an hour ago...I'm committed.

GetItOn
07-28-2012, 10:40 AM
Too late :p I launched him an hour ago...I'm committed.

NooOOooOOooOOOooOOooOOoooOOo !! If you beat 22 I'm gonna want to as well!

Hello Kitty
07-28-2012, 10:55 AM
NooOOooOOooOOOooOOooOOoooOOo !! If you beat 22 I'm gonna want to as well!Bahahaha! It's insane! I can't stop. He's so elusive and such a challenge. Must...not...let...him...win!

GetItOn
07-28-2012, 11:17 AM
Bahahaha! It's insane! I can't stop. He's so elusive and such a challenge. Must...not...let...him...win!

40 times tho! **40** Fall back, fall back!

Hello Kitty
07-28-2012, 11:45 AM
40 times tho! **40** Fall back, fall back!LOL. OK, OK - over and out. I officially am satisfied and can quit now. Picked up another rare. Honest...I promise...really.

Final results: 21 bosses - 2 rares, 6 uncommons, 13 commons. 130 gems total.


Starting stats: Level 67, 111 allies, 21101 A / 23030 D
Ending stats: Level 69, 120 allies, 25635 A / 25593 D

Boss tracker: http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37679-Beat-the-Boss-(for-when-it-shows-up-in-KA)&p=345529&viewfull=1#post345529

GIO - you had me dying laughing with your post! :D

GetItOn
07-28-2012, 11:51 AM
LOL. OK, OK - over and out. I officially am satisfied and can quit now. Picked up another rare. Honest...I promise...really.

Final results: 21 bosses - 2 rares, 6 uncommons, 13 commons. 130 gems total.

omg you got another rare on your last 2. That's it, I'm killing one more. hahah

Hello Kitty
07-28-2012, 11:53 AM
omg you got another rare on your last 2. That's it, I'm killing one more. hahahNoooo! Don't do it!

Crazy Canuck
07-28-2012, 12:04 PM
2 pit challengers! Can I have 1? It's the only unit I didn't get 1 of. I'll give you Judicator I got 2 of him

Hello Kitty
07-28-2012, 12:24 PM
2 pit challengers! Can I have 1? It's the only unit I didn't get 1 of. I'll give you Judicator I got 2 of himSure, I'll trade if that gives you a complete set :) Wonder if we lost GIO to the boss?

GetItOn
07-28-2012, 01:15 PM
Sure, I'll trade if that gives you a complete set :) Wonder if we lost GIO to the boss?

Another one bites the dust, another Common. Ok seriously this time that's the last one!

Instead I'm going to go pet my new Hydras. :-)

Dr. Dengus
07-28-2012, 01:38 PM
Your HP doesn't replenish with a level up like in MW? Guess I'm done with the event lol.

Crazy Canuck
07-28-2012, 01:50 PM
I want my pit challenger!! Think I might have to try 1 more time but if I get another common I'll snap!

MaverickMunkey
07-29-2012, 10:25 AM
There is a KA Facebook poll going on at the moment about whether there should be anymore Boss Events.

The 'No' vote is winning at the moment!

Crazy Canuck
07-29-2012, 10:40 AM
There is a KA Facebook poll going on at the moment about whether there should be anymore Boss Events.

The 'No' vote is winning at the moment!I like the boss events as a whole but unless they fix a few things on the KA side I don't see the point in them continuing either

The_Red
07-29-2012, 10:46 AM
There is a KA Facebook poll going on at the moment about whether there should be anymore Boss Events.

The 'No' vote is winning at the moment!

I like the event style... if they would just change up the multiplier a little so people could get further than 10 or 15.

Hello Kitty
07-29-2012, 10:54 AM
I like the event style... if they would just change up the multiplier a little so people could get further than 10 or 15.I'm with you Red...I really like the boss event, in fact, my favorite of all the types (except PvP). They just need to ratchet boss down a bit – he was too strong for the long haul. I couldn't get past boss 13 without gems. I stopped at 21. Long way to go to get to 40!

marebear
07-29-2012, 11:53 AM
Yeah that's what I said too, topped out at 15 using gold. 40 is just too far away. I don't understand why they "hate" on KA. No free units (scratchers in cc) No replenish on health when you level up (mw boss) everything seems like they just want money for ka. Whine whine whine.

Zesder
07-29-2012, 03:11 PM
I think the problem is that if people don't think they can get to the end then they wont try.

They need to make it so every one can finish. But it needs to be extremely hard on the last two or three levels.

That way people wil see how close they are to the end and might buy up some gems to ease their frustrations to help them win.

MaverickMunkey
07-29-2012, 03:25 PM
........Whine whine whine.

Anymore whining like that young lady and we will have to get you a vineyard!

Talkazar
07-29-2012, 04:36 PM
I like the idea of the event, but I must confess as implemented I don't want to see it too often. Basic problem is that you could expect that most regular players would have ended free times at 5-6 as well, with 40 so far out of reach its not funny. but the 'event' still runs for 6 days.

A few suggestions:
1) Cut the number from 40 to 30. Raising it to 40 probably pushed it from 'interesting' to 'don't bother for a lot of players'.
2) Look at the HP curves again. Gush about the units being indestructible all you wish, but 6 without seriously manipulating your army or is too low for a 6 day event.
3) - and this will go against all of Funzio's instincts - Reduce the obtrusiveness of the event or have some way of shutting down the event if the player is no longer interested. That 5 second 'epic enemy approaching (yawn)' screen every time you want to just play is annoying and just reminds you the events a bomb.

War Eagle
07-29-2012, 06:31 PM
Yeah I wish instead of triggering the boss event and it starting immediately... that you collected some sort of item that you could click-on at your choosing... to trigger the boss battle. They could keep the same time restraints (2hr limit)... just let us decide when to start the battle.

StevieBoy
07-30-2012, 07:06 AM
Beat the Boss event is mainly focused on the 'real money' player. I got to level 10, then had to stop there. I even used a timer so that I would attack at the right time without delay. When you use the 'Free Gold' option (or middle button), you can get close (but no cigar) past this level. I'm a lvl 55 player and have great stat's (16.5 attack and 17.1 def). Funzio should at least let the free player go half way through the event before cutting you off at the knees! At least the title was right...the Boss (at Funzio) wanted you to give him a load of real cash before proceeding past the 10th boss hit...BTW, if anyone out there can beat the boss past level 10 without forking over the real cash...let me know, I'm all ears.

StevieBoy
07-30-2012, 07:21 AM
I want my pit challenger!! Think I might have to try 1 more time but if I get another common I'll snap!

I got a 'pit challenger' ...and I got to just 9 boss kills and had to stop!! hee hee!!

NJWMRP
07-30-2012, 07:21 AM
Hm I havent gotten past 9 and I have 45k attack at lvl 81.

Sorry if this has already been said but does the boss increase with combat lvl? ally count? both?

The_Red
07-30-2012, 07:23 AM
Hm I havent gotten past 9 and I have 45k attack at lvl 81.

Sorry if this has already been said but does the boss increase with combat lvl? ally count? both?

IMHO, the baseline is set when you first start the event; it requires significant % deltas in your Attack strength to get further. Most people who'v emade it far have 2-3x-ed their allies (and thus 2x their strength). Possible at lower non-max allies. I think the ramp rate of boss strength is predetermined.

NJWMRP
07-30-2012, 07:43 AM
IMHO, the baseline is set when you first start the event; it requires significant % deltas in your Attack strength to get further. Most people who'v emade it far have 2-3x-ed their allies (and thus 2x their strength). Possible at lower non-max allies. I think the ramp rate of boss strength is predetermined.

I was thinking that also. Well, if that holds true then it shouldn't be too hard to get significantly farther in the event with ally manipulation. If you cut allies to single digits before the event then raise it a few hundred you could increase your attack score >20x easy. Too bad removing allies is such a slow process

The_Red
07-30-2012, 07:44 AM
I was thinking that also. Well, if that holds true then it shouldn't be too hard to get significantly farther in the event with ally manipulation. If you cut allies to single digits before the event then raise it a few hundred you could increase your attack score >20x easy. Too bad removing allies is such a slow process

thats what I did.... went form 300->500->300.

think that stupid stat modification of 30% on all equipment that affects me (and others) may have helped as well - since it showed up mid event.

NJWMRP
07-30-2012, 08:27 AM
thats what I did.... went form 300->500->300.

think that stupid stat modification of 30% on all equipment that affects me (and others) may have helped as well - since it showed up mid event.

Yeah I read your post about that, Idk how I feel about that change being permanent

P4TR1C14N
07-30-2012, 08:32 AM
LOL. OK, OK - over and out. I officially am satisfied and can quit now. Picked up another rare. Honest...I promise...really.

Final results: 21 bosses - 2 rares, 6 uncommons, 13 commons. 130 gems total.


Starting stats: Level 67, 111 allies, 21101 A / 23030 D
Ending stats: Level 69, 120 allies, 25635 A / 25593 D

Boss tracker: http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37679-Beat-the-Boss-(for-when-it-shows-up-in-KA)&p=345529&viewfull=1#post345529

GIO - you had me dying laughing with your post! :D

Wow, i could reach 9 (without using gems) and got similar stats as you expect the Attack which is around 15k. Would that mean that the 10k AD diff explains lett's say 10 bosses. Quite significant :)

Joe Brown1
07-30-2012, 09:50 AM
I'm on lvl 14 now - no gems. This one is going to be tough

Edit: Got 14 w/o gems. That's it. Did get a final rare. Good tally all in all. 10 common, 1 uncomon, 3 rares (all Judicators)

custos
07-30-2012, 11:06 PM
Beat the Boss event is mainly focused on the 'real money' player. I got to level 10, then had to stop there. I even used a timer so that I would attack at the right time without delay. When you use the 'Free Gold' option (or middle button), you can get close (but no cigar) past this level. I'm a lvl 55 player and have great stat's (16.5 attack and 17.1 def). Funzio should at least let the free player go half way through the event before cutting you off at the knees! At least the title was right...the Boss (at Funzio) wanted you to give him a load of real cash before proceeding past the 10th boss hit...BTW, if anyone out there can beat the boss past level 10 without forking over the real cash...let me know, I'm all ears.

I'm a similar level to you with slightly higher stats - Level 54, A/D 19k/23k. I just beat the level 13 Boss without using gems (I have never used gems for anything), middle option only, so it is possible to go higher. I even had a hit left over on the level 13 Boss so I think I will have a fairly good shot at the level 14 Boss.

I assume everyone knows how to get the maximum 13 hits in on each Boss? Until I realised that I was struggling with the level 9 Boss, but now I think I can go to 14 or maybe 15.