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War Priest
08-04-2012, 06:54 PM
Since Flan deleted the other one, we have to carry on here.

For the record, if Flan is just going to delete good threads, let's just stay out of his and not post in them.

joaquim
08-04-2012, 06:59 PM
I have 7 right now.

Ryans67
08-04-2012, 07:02 PM
Thanks Flan.

siL
08-04-2012, 07:05 PM
I wonder why i couldnt refresh the page...
He seriously deleted it?? Lol....

War Priest
08-04-2012, 07:06 PM
I wonder why i couldnt refresh the page...
He seriously deleted it?? Lol....

Yeah... Just nobody post in his threads anymore since he is going to do that. :mad:

Jhoemel
08-04-2012, 07:10 PM
Im still on 8. Just a question when will the new boss event starts? Im want to get 40k bp before that event to get major rank

War Priest
08-04-2012, 07:10 PM
No idea. My guess is Monday.

bigflan
08-04-2012, 07:27 PM
I deleted all my threads you may have noticed a decrease in posts

joaquim
08-04-2012, 07:32 PM
I deleted all my threads you may have noticed a decrease in posts

No you didn't. I went to your profile, clicked find all started threads, and there were 2 threads there.

dthfrmabv
08-04-2012, 07:39 PM
Yeah... Just nobody post in his threads anymore since he is going to do that. :mad:

Been following some of the forum discussion for some time now - just wondering how old is Flan to act so childish?

manbeast
08-04-2012, 07:43 PM
i won. got 10 earlier today. all medium opens. no gold.

still mad about 7th item

War Priest
08-04-2012, 07:47 PM
I hate every body that won! :(

This sucks. I spent more gold than all of you.

bigflan
08-04-2012, 07:48 PM
It's okay WP

I'm quitting tommorow and will never be seen again farewell everybody and enjoy everything in life

manbeast
08-04-2012, 07:57 PM
I hate every body that won! :(

This sucks. I spent more gold than all of you.

well i'm mad at you for getting the heavy carrier. give it to me and i'll give u the chopper, but keep my bonus :P

heres some pics to rub it in
http://i45.tinypic.com/20gzgvs.png

http://i48.tinypic.com/a2rpj7.png

http://i50.tinypic.com/in5mw5.png

it was actually kind of weird. I had about 16 boxes yesterday after a pvp run. opened box after box yesterday and today. got down to my last box. got 2 sorry's after I got off work. Thought about doing another PVP run to get a bunch of boxes for OT. Decided, no, i'm going to see whats in this last box first. boom, out popped the engine. I think if i had done pvp and gotten back up to around 20 boxes, the 10th part wouldnt have popped out.

call me superstitious.

CAPT.GIN
08-04-2012, 07:58 PM
It's okay WP

I'm quitting tommorow and will never be seen again farewell everybody and enjoy everything in life



Want a cookie?

manbeast
08-04-2012, 07:58 PM
gin- i love your pic of the general command ship!

Kara T
08-04-2012, 07:58 PM
Just got number 10!!!! I had been at 9 for almost 4 days and had come to terms with a no win. I am not sure if I am more excited about the unit, or relieved that the gold spent was not totally wasted. I had been using gold opens with an occasional string of resets in frustration. After being away for a few hours I gave it another shot with 4 boxes left....gold open, reset, cash sorry, reset, gold open, reset, gold number 10. One left.....maybe I will get super lucky with the last one and score an extra allie!.....sarcasm intended.

May the string of bad luck end for you as well! All the best...Kara T

CAPT.GIN
08-04-2012, 08:00 PM
Wp i figured it out!!! It's because you won the heavy carrier that's why you can't get all ten jets!!! They probably patced to where you can only win one!!!

War Priest
08-04-2012, 08:00 PM
OMG PEOPLE QUIT WINNING! :mad:

joaquim
08-04-2012, 08:00 PM
It's okay WP

I'm quitting tommorow and will never be seen again farewell everybody and enjoy everything in life

BS. You're gonna keep posting as either War Bishop or Boom.

CAPT.GIN
08-04-2012, 08:02 PM
gin- i love your pic of the general command ship!


Thank you sir... Did you know that I got ten jet parts to and won the event...

bigflan
08-04-2012, 08:03 PM
My oh man when I leave tommorow I'm finally gonna get my break

I'm still playing cc cause I like it more than mw

joaquim
08-04-2012, 08:04 PM
My oh man when I leave tommorow I'm finally gonna get my break

I'm still playing cc cause I like it more than mw

First half - BS
Second half - Genius post.

Lordsloss
08-04-2012, 08:18 PM
I'm still stuck on nine. Only a few more opens left :(

MadManDK
08-04-2012, 08:19 PM
5 am here and my son woke me and I figured let me try another open while I get him back to sleep. Started with gold, but have only done cash open since they fixed nr. 7 and been at 9 about 4 days. And voilat nr 10 just rolled in. Wit a bit over 80 days on MW, I can catch up on upgrade a bit faster. Good luck to the rest of you still hunting.

War Priest
08-04-2012, 08:20 PM
WHAT! Another winner! This is so messed up. ='(

Chaomeister
08-04-2012, 08:39 PM
Dont worry WP, I'm still here to share in your misery. 9 for 5 days :(

CAPT.GIN
08-04-2012, 08:41 PM
Dont worry WP, I'm still here to share in your misery. 9 for 5 days :(

Don't feel bad for him he has to many event units already...

War Priest
08-04-2012, 08:41 PM
Dont worry WP, I'm still here to share in your misery. 9 for 5 days :(

At least your by my side. So was other's but they ended up getting it today. You'll probably get it next and I'll be all alone. :(

I am seriously so mad right now.

War Priest
08-04-2012, 08:44 PM
Don't feel bad for him he has to many event units already...

I never paid more than 6000 gold and never got it though! I am going to call and say my card was stolen. :p

manbeast
08-04-2012, 08:48 PM
I never paid more than 6000 gold and never got it though! I am going to call and say my card was stolen. :p

why would you spend 6k gold on a crate event!? you've been here long enough to know better than that. you could have sped up A LOT of upgrades with 6k gold haha

bigflan
08-04-2012, 08:49 PM
I actually love seeing this I used to be like WP but u let my spirit free and am doing good

War Priest
08-04-2012, 08:49 PM
why would you spend 6k gold on a crate event!? you've been here long enough to know better than that. you could have sped up A LOT of upgrades with 6k gold haha

BECAUSE I WANT IT! :mad:

manbeast
08-04-2012, 08:50 PM
ha. not only did you spend 6k gold, you went up 6 lvls!!! holy cow WP!!! those boss events are going to cost you serious gold after lvl 101. just warning you

bigflan
08-04-2012, 08:51 PM
BECAUSE I WANT IT! :mad:Hahhahahahahahhaha

Guys WP is the new flan

CAPT.GIN
08-04-2012, 08:53 PM
I never paid more than 6000 gold and never got it though! I am going to call and say my card was stolen. :p


Do it bro tell them the gin stole it...

War Priest
08-04-2012, 08:54 PM
Do it bro tell them the gin stole it...

I was kidding.

Skyser30518
08-04-2012, 08:54 PM
Still on number 9. Loaded up with about 70 crates to try in OT. I know better to use gold on crate events, but I need that upgrade boost.

David P
08-04-2012, 08:54 PM
Hahhahahahahahhaha

Guys WP is the new flan

Flan, don't put your name in the same sentence as War Priest. Ever.

manbeast
08-04-2012, 08:56 PM
what number event is this? 13? 14?

bigflan
08-04-2012, 08:56 PM
It's event 15

MonkeyPuppy2012
08-04-2012, 09:16 PM
Hi There....

I have been a lurker for a few weeks..

Why do we care who Flan is and what he thinks... he seems irrelevant to me...

Chaomeister
08-04-2012, 09:42 PM
Hi There....

I have been a lurker for a few weeks..

Why do we care who Flan is and what he thinks... he seems irrelevant to me...

I have been lurking for around that much time too. Flan is a scholar and a gentleman.

2 hours left, just opened another crate, got a fortified sniper. I got this B)

Vballmadam
08-04-2012, 09:45 PM
WP...How many boxes left to open. I'm staying up with you until midnight for support. Is your timer set? Did you leave gold for resets.

This won't make you happy and I'm not trying to get you riled up but i am was upgrading my genetics lab when I won and was wishing I had waited until the event was over but when i just looked at the time left the bonus already kicked in!

Let this be inspiration to not give up....we're all rooting for you

War Priest
08-04-2012, 09:47 PM
I have 20 or so boxes right now. I am going to get more because I will leave this open for a week if I have too.

MonkeyPuppy2012
08-04-2012, 09:48 PM
I got the 10th item.

My Attack is 87,042 and my defense 122,712

CAPT.GIN
08-04-2012, 09:52 PM
I have been lurking for around that much time too. Flan is a scholar and a gentleman.

2 hours left, just opened another crate, got a fortified sniper. I got this B)




Don't lie he is a loser and lame

Vballmadam
08-04-2012, 09:52 PM
I got the 10th item.

My Attack is 87,042 and my defense 122,712

Whoa great stats monkey...are they raw or boosted stats ...we better allie up!

War Priest
08-04-2012, 09:53 PM
I think they hate me because I am inlove with L Fizzle. =/

Vballmadam
08-04-2012, 09:55 PM
I have 20 or so boxes right now. I am going to get more because I will leave this open for a week if I have too.

You go WP...that's the spirit!

Gambit12
08-04-2012, 09:56 PM
well i'm mad at you for getting the heavy carrier. give it to me and i'll give u the chopper, but keep my bonus :P

heres some pics to rub it in
http://i45.tinypic.com/20gzgvs.png

http://i48.tinypic.com/a2rpj7.png

http://i50.tinypic.com/in5mw5.png

it was actually kind of weird. I had about 16 boxes yesterday after a pvp run. opened box after box yesterday and today. got down to my last box. got 2 sorry's after I got off work. Thought about doing another PVP run to get a bunch of boxes for OT. Decided, no, i'm going to see whats in this last box first. boom, out popped the engine. I think if i had done pvp and gotten back up to around 20 boxes, the 10th part wouldnt have popped out.

call me superstitious.

I don't need da 7th item... i rather get da pegasus than da heavy carrier bcuz i already have da
fortune carrier... May i can trade dat for gold..

Vballmadam
08-04-2012, 09:58 PM
I think they hate me because I am inlove with L Fizzle. =/

Yeah right! Hopefully L Fizzle returns your affections.

War Priest
08-04-2012, 09:59 PM
I don't need da 7th item... i rather get da pegasus than da heavy carrier bcuz i already have da
fortune carrier... May i can trade dat for gold..

But if you have both, then you get double the bonus.

War Priest
08-04-2012, 10:01 PM
Yeah right! Hopefully L Fizzle returns your affections.

No! She already has a boyfriend. :(

See, my life is worse than Flan's...

Vballmadam
08-04-2012, 10:04 PM
No! She already has a boyfriend. :(

See, my life is worse than Flan's...

Get off the pitty pot! You don't want to be like Flan.

War Priest
08-04-2012, 10:05 PM
Get off the pitty pot! You don't want to be like Flan.

Haha, I know but I am so bummed right now!

Vballmadam
08-04-2012, 10:08 PM
That's how i felt after the last event. Seemed like I was the only one who didn't win even though I knew it was a lie.

Vballmadam
08-04-2012, 10:10 PM
You still have a couple hours and several boxes. Where there's boxes there's hope.

Change of subject. The Bourne Legacy is being advertised on the TV right now. I want to go see it.

War Priest
08-04-2012, 10:13 PM
You still have a couple hours and several boxes. Where there's boxes there's hope.

Change of subject. The Bourne Legacy is being advertised on the TV right now. I want to go see it.

But why did they use a new character instead of the other one!

Jhoemel
08-04-2012, 10:18 PM
Hey wp she has a boyfriend but its only a boyfriend. There's still hope.

Skyser30518
08-04-2012, 10:18 PM
Just did my last gold open open for a ghost hound. Last open during regulation coming up with cash, then on to OT. Still on 9. Sitting on 84 crates.

War Priest
08-04-2012, 10:19 PM
Hey wp she has a boyfriend but its only a boyfriend. There's still hope.

That's what I tell myself. :)

I'll marry her one day. No worries. She doesn't know it yet, but I will.

Vballmadam
08-04-2012, 10:21 PM
But why did they use a new character instead of the other one!

I'm bummed about that too! I really liked Matt Damon in the role. He was Jason Bourne!

Vballmadam
08-04-2012, 10:23 PM
Just did my last gold open open for a ghost hound. Last open during regulation coming up with cash, then on to OT. Still on 9. Sitting on 84 crates.

Geez, where did you find all those crates? What level are you?

War Priest
08-04-2012, 10:27 PM
This is me for sure...

http://www.desicomments.com/dc1/02/75926/75926.JPG

Vballmadam
08-04-2012, 10:28 PM
This is me for sure...

http://www.desicomments.com/dc1/02/75926/75926.JPG

You're too much!let me get my violin out to serenade you! Lol

Vballmadam
08-04-2012, 10:29 PM
I've had 4 sorries in a row!

David P
08-04-2012, 10:41 PM
I've had 4 sorries in a row!

Vball I'm confused....did you win? When?

If so congrats! Hang in there Priest

Vballmadam
08-04-2012, 10:45 PM
Yes i did but didn't post because I didn't want to upset WP. I pm'd him to soften the blow.

War Priest
08-04-2012, 10:47 PM
Yes i did but didn't post because I didn't want to upset WP. I pm'd him to soften the blow.

You spoke of it! :mad:

Just kidding. :p But really... :mad:

Jhoemel
08-04-2012, 10:48 PM
That's what I tell myself. :)

I'll marry her one day. No worries. She doesn't know it yet, but I will.

Yeah thats right wp. Be optimistic and hope :)

Skyser30518
08-04-2012, 10:50 PM
Geez, where did you find all those crates? What level are you?
Level 94. Did a lot of PVP. Opened a ton of them with gold to get to level 7 early. Now been stuck at 9 for a few days.

Btw, has anyone told you lately how SEXEY you are!

CAPT.GIN
08-04-2012, 10:50 PM
Im still on 8. Just a question when will the new boss event starts? Im want to get 40k bp before that event to get major rank


Jhoemel solve this....


私は歴史を学校で習っています。私は数学も習っています。私は歩いて学校に通っています。私は保健体育と美 術の授業を受けています。私は美術の授業がきらいです。私は保健体育が好きです。

Vballmadam
08-04-2012, 10:51 PM
One more hour to get crates. How many are you up to? Watch you'll get all these crates and bammmm you won't need them!

joaquim
08-04-2012, 10:52 PM
I have been lurking for around that much time too. Flan is a scholar and a gentleman.

2 hours left, just opened another crate, got a fortified sniper. I got this B)

Flan is a loser and you're a loser for thinking he's a scholar and a gentleman.
JK but flan is a loser.

War Priest
08-04-2012, 10:53 PM
One more hour to get crates. How many are you up to? Watch you'll get all these crates and bammmm you won't need them!

20 something. And wrong, just got a defensive cannon.

Vballmadam
08-04-2012, 10:54 PM
Level 94. Did a lot of PVP. Opened a ton of them with gold to get to level 7 early. Now been stuck at 9 for a few days.

Btw, has anyone told you lately how SEXEY you are!

Hahaha...why no, thank you very much!
I was stuck at 9 since the first day. The odds are crazy.

Vballmadam
08-04-2012, 10:56 PM
20 something. And wrong, just got a defensive cannon.

The event hasn't ended. I was meaning when time is up and you open the first in OT

Skyser30518
08-04-2012, 11:03 PM
Nine minutes and counting to my last open during regulation.

Skyser30518
08-04-2012, 11:09 PM
4 minutes till my 10th jet engine. can't wait for the unit.

Skyser30518
08-04-2012, 11:13 PM
On to OT. Got a sorry!

Jhoemel
08-04-2012, 11:18 PM
I dont any chinese gin

Skyser30518
08-04-2012, 11:22 PM
88 crates should keep my ipad tied up for a few days. lol. Got to hide it from the kids.

Vballmadam
08-04-2012, 11:22 PM
On to OT. Got a sorry!

My event says 40 minutes to go

Skyser30518
08-04-2012, 11:24 PM
My event says 40 minutes to go
Not going to use any more gold. Learned my lesson. I have 56 minutes till my next open.

Copenhagen
08-04-2012, 11:27 PM
Going OT dark for a little while. Good luck all.

War Priest
08-04-2012, 11:29 PM
Going OT dark for a little while. Good luck all.

Did you ever get 10?

Copenhagen
08-04-2012, 11:32 PM
Did you ever get 10?

Four days stuck on 9 with a couple hundred in gold opens mixed in.

War Priest
08-04-2012, 11:33 PM
Four days stuck on 9 with a couple hundred in gold opens mixed in.

You got it the first time though, right?

Vballmadam
08-04-2012, 11:33 PM
Going OT dark for a little while. Good luck all.

Good luck to you too...Cope

CAPT.GIN
08-04-2012, 11:35 PM
Copenhagen do you like my pink sig?

War Priest
08-04-2012, 11:37 PM
Copenhagen do you like my pink sig?

No, it sucks. I might remove mine just because of you. :eek:

Corsair
08-04-2012, 11:38 PM
WP, did I read you right, 6000 gold? Was that for this one or adding up those other tries? Hope the latter, thought you were over that!

I decided to do gold opens after the first day, short event, plus already had some free gold from event refunds. Ended up dropping almost 1000, got to 9 2 days ago but that's it. This is why I hate gambling, feels damn lousy to lose. But eh, knew there was a good chance I wouldn't get it, worth the attempt for that 20% time saver. Not gonna buy more gold, set my limit, but will probably try to open some with cash in OT. Got some 9th items that way recently, maybe I'll get lucky. Good luck WP and anyone else trying.

War Priest
08-04-2012, 11:41 PM
Yeah, 6000. That is just this event. 9000 gold total spent trying to get this bonus all together!

Vballmadam
08-04-2012, 11:44 PM
Yeah, 6000. That is just this event. 9000 gold total spent trying to get this bonus all together!

Hopefully you saved some gold for the next boss event

Good luck in OT.

Corsair
08-04-2012, 11:53 PM
Yeah, 6000. That is just this event. 9000 gold total spent trying to get this bonus all together!Damn...that sucks. Glad I stopped where I did. Good luck in OT, going there now...

War Priest
08-04-2012, 11:54 PM
Ok, about to go into OT here.

Ryans67
08-05-2012, 12:47 AM
Cost me a lot too. I kept justifying it at first because 2,500 of it was bonus gold. Then you start thinking you have to get the item, otherwise all the previous gold was a waste. It's a little different feeling then gambling.... But maybe it's because I walk into a casino expecting to lose money. I go into these events expecting to win. So you kind of have a feeling of being scammed when you don't win.

I hope the next item sucks, otherwise I'm gonna have to add some new clients just to afford the events they keep popping out....lol.

Saso
08-05-2012, 01:38 AM
I can never get it? I have used gold to open boxes but only use gold after I recieve the 7th item. Has anyone ever got a 10th box without using gold? It just feels like they want you to spend money to get the final box :-/ basically if I need to spend more money how much do I have to spend on gold to open that elusive 10th box. Level 83 and my strongest unit I have is the fluid grippen :-( . All I ever get from the epic bosses is common units and the highest leve I can reach is 9. Just feels like they want me to spend serious $$$$ to get any half decent units. Any advice would be appreciated :)

Jhoemel
08-05-2012, 01:41 AM
as expected finished with 8. Im starting to think that the crates are rigged after number 8

Saso
08-05-2012, 01:42 AM
Pvp? Can someone give me a breakdown on the abbreviations you are using

Jhoemel
08-05-2012, 02:38 AM
pvp mean player vs player
pve mean player vs environment
llp low level player
hlp high level player.

thats all i know

Agent Orange
08-05-2012, 05:59 AM
Yeah... Just nobody post in his threads anymore since he is going to do that. :mad:

You guys finally figured this out?

In terms of the events, because there are some long term issues that aren't getting fixed I don't bother playing them. For starters the cost is way too high for the low value units. It cost me 169,000 in cash to try a cash open and that really used to put a crimp in my cash flow.

I now only use the free option and only hit the events if I happen to be on. I can usually get 7 opens with the free option last event was 6. On a different note with the KA boss events I stop doing missions so as notvto get any gems/boxes or whatever they happen to be called and again only do free opens.

Also noticed on the last event that the leaderboard had a much lower number of wins required to get into the pool so I suspect people are giving up on this cash grab. Though the leader I've never heard of so possibly a hacker or shill?

Vballmadam
08-05-2012, 06:01 AM
I can never get it? I have used gold to open boxes but only use gold after I recieve the 7th item. Has anyone ever got a 10th box without using gold? It just feels like they want you to spend money to get the final box :-/ basically if I need to spend more money how much do I have to spend on gold to open that elusive 10th box. Level 83 and my strongest unit I have is the fluid grippen :-( . All I ever get from the epic bosses is common units and the highest leve I can reach is 9. Just feels like they want me to spend serious $$$$ to get any half decent units. Any advice would be appreciated :)

I have saso. The very first event i did

BigDog146400220
08-05-2012, 09:05 AM
Anyone win in OT yet?

Arizona
08-05-2012, 09:11 AM
I have saso. The very first event i did
Congratulations, on that one then. How about this event? I accidentally closed my app a few mins ago and thought Oh F!
Still had 14 boxes left. Oh well no biggy.

Big John
08-05-2012, 09:15 AM
Got to 9, close but no cigar. AO is right, costing too much in game cash for sorries or duff units.

David P
08-05-2012, 09:21 AM
I can never get it? I have used gold to open boxes but only use gold after I recieve the 7th item. Has anyone ever got a 10th box without using gold? It just feels like they want you to spend money to get the final box :-/ basically if I need to spend more money how much do I have to spend on gold to open that elusive 10th box. Level 83 and my strongest unit I have is the fluid grippen :-( . All I ever get from the epic bosses is common units and the highest leve I can reach is 9. Just feels like they want me to spend serious $$$$ to get any half decent units. Any advice would be appreciated :)

Saso I have won 2 of the past 4 events with all cash. It is really all about luck. Many people have spent thousands of gold on this event and past events and don't get it.

My recommendation -- don't use gold. I asked a similar question last week and the majority of responses guided me in the way of using gold to purchase gold money buildings. If you can only beat boss 9, it would take you hundreds of real dollars to beat the boss 30 times. Use the cash open option

DP

Vballmadam
08-05-2012, 09:33 AM
Congratulations, on that one then. How about this event? I accidentally closed my app a few mins ago and thought Oh F!
Still had 14 boxes left. Oh well no biggy.

This one frustrated me. Last event I got 9 the first day, opened boxes ever hour for the remaining 6 days and never got the 10th part.

This event I did use gold. I did not want the unit to elude me. I needed that 20% faster upgrade. I used gold the last day every hour to open boxes. Luckily, I didn't use more than 300 gold. I know that's alot but it was worth it to me. I noticed after the event the gold amount to instantly finish had diminished by 20%. I waited until today when it was down to 198 gold and I completed it.

I had 14 boxes left as well. After I won I only used free opens. I got a ghost hound and several sorries.

BigDog146400220
08-05-2012, 09:45 AM
This one frustrated me. Last event I got 9 the first day, opened boxes ever hour for the remaining 6 days and never got the 10th part.

This event I did use gold. I did not want the unit to elude me. I needed that 20% faster upgrade. I used gold the last day every hour to open boxes. Luckily, I didn't use more than 300 gold. I know that's alot but it was worth it to me. I noticed after the event the gold amount to instantly finish had diminished by 20%. I waited until today when it was down to 198 gold and I completed it.

I had 14 boxes left as well. After I won I only used free opens. I got a ghost hound and several sorries.

VBM...Congrats on ur victory!

Vballmadam
08-05-2012, 09:47 AM
VBM...Congrats on ur victory!

Thank you Big Dog...and to you as well!

Arizona
08-05-2012, 09:48 AM
This one frustrated me. Last event I got 9 the first day, opened boxes ever hour for the remaining 6 days and never got the 10th part.

This event I did use gold. I did not want the unit to elude me. I needed that 20% faster upgrade. I used gold the last day every hour to open boxes. Luckily, I didn't use more than 300 gold. I know that's alot but it was worth it to me. I noticed after the event the gold amount to instantly finish had diminished by 20%. I waited until today when it was down to 198 gold and I completed it.

I had 14 boxes left as well. After I won I only used free opens. I got a ghost hound and several sorries.
Once again Congrats. I was just greedy, as I already had the 20% time reducer from the second event. I was just dreaming that I'd have a 40+% unit. That would have been so kewl.

Vballmadam
08-05-2012, 10:00 AM
Once again Congrats. I was just greedy, as I already had the 20% time reducer from the second event. I was just dreaming that I'd have a 40+% unit. That would have been so kewl.

Agreed. That is so awesome some people won both. That double bonus would make a huge difference. Now lets hope for a reduced rate on buildings or land.

Corsair
08-05-2012, 10:11 AM
Cost me a lot too. I kept justifying it at first because 2,500 of it was bonus gold. Then you start thinking you have to get the item, otherwise all the previous gold was a waste. It's a little different feeling then gambling.... But maybe it's because I walk into a casino expecting to lose money. I go into these events expecting to win. So you kind of have a feeling of being scammed when you don't win.See, that's the problem many have, especially the part I bolded. Same thing with gambling. You have to decide before you walk through the doors how much you are going to lose. When you hit that you must stop. Change your mind in the casino/event, and you are gonna hurt. What really hurts is that the events are somewhat deceiving to the normal human thought process. Odds are very good up to 8. 7 is 25%, 8 is 12%. Then 9 is 6% and 10 is 1.4%. So from 7 to 9 each subsequent item is halved, whereas previous items were decreasing by roughly 10%. Then it drops way off at 10. It tricks you into thinking you're on a roll, but 1.4 in 100 is worse odds than placing a bet on a single number in roulette.

Anyway...first few attempts in OT have all opened, no prize yet but will keep open for the day though I will mostly be out. Probably will give up tonight. My biggest worry would be getting the 10th in OT then not getting the prize. Haven't seen that happen with the 9th, but if it did with the 10th, would hate to file that support ticket. CC Mark once said those are among his most annoying of support requests.

Saso
08-05-2012, 10:19 AM
Thanks for the positive response guys and girls :) nice to see a forum where you don't get blasted for asking questions. Thanks for the advice it is appreciated. I'm starting to see this game favors certain players over others. Unless they are spending hundreds of /$$$ basically attacked a player that was at lvl 75 and his attack was only at 7.5k and defence was around the same. He had the warlord siege tank? How can someone so weak defeat the boss 30 times? Shinanigans :( I'm not spending another penny as I used my gold to open boxes in the events as and when and all I ever get is dragon soldiers, water cannons and so on. On another note I opened my 1st ninth box yesterday just using the ingame cash. And I have managed to play around 8 of the events I need some stronger units fml

el_gringo
08-05-2012, 10:58 AM
Overtime seems to have ended on 9 for me, don't know what happened but just came back to my device and the app had shut :(

War Priest
08-05-2012, 12:07 PM
22 boxes left...

Tanner
08-05-2012, 12:11 PM
I "accidentally" used my phone as a PHONE and disrupted my "chances" at #10. I got 9 this morning around 6-7a EDT. Spent every last tapjoy good last night (150 banked FOR this event, in case it ever returned) and got a bunch of ghost hounds and dragons. Frustrated, envious, and feeling ripped off. It is really hard to come by 150 tapjoy.

I can not even begin to imagine how one who pays real $$ would feel to not get this prize. WP, 6,000 - oh ehm GEEEE!!!

If I lost that amount of gold w nothing to show I'd be institutionalized!

Copenhagen
08-05-2012, 03:08 PM
Event just finished for me. Stinkin 9.

Congrats to those that won.

War Priest
08-05-2012, 03:18 PM
I am still going with 20 boxes left.

Vballmadam
08-05-2012, 03:21 PM
Event just finished for me. Stinkin 9.

Congrats to those that won.

I'm sorry to hear that. You probably didn't need the boost! Hahaha

Vballmadam
08-05-2012, 03:22 PM
I am still going with 20 boxes left.

Geezzzzz it's there...i feel it. Just don't crash.

Jp lfs
08-05-2012, 03:23 PM
Event just finished for me. Stinkin 9.

Congrats to those that won.

Sorry to hear that, man. I know the first time this prize came around, a bunch of us got stuck on 9. The McDoc method seems to have been somehow nerfed on the last 2-3 events. It was gold (pun intended) for about 5-6 events in a row, but now it somehow doesn't work. My 1-2 box method still gets me to 8 or 9 everytime for free, but never 10 anymore either.

At least they haven't switched us to the KA/CC format yet... (*knocking on wood*)

Jp lfs
08-05-2012, 03:25 PM
I am still going with 20 boxes left.

I think my encouragement has cursed you before, so I won't wish you any luck.

I hope you understand how I mean that. I can seriously picture you destroying your device if you don't reach 10... AGAIN!!!

War Priest
08-05-2012, 03:26 PM
I think my encouragement has cursed you before, so I won't wish you any luck.

I hope you understand how I mean that. I can seriously picture you destroying your device if you don't reach 10... AGAIN!!!

Haha, I would. I will have to take off the case first because it's military grade and meant to protect it from drops but I better win this. I am so mad. Still!

Copenhagen
08-05-2012, 03:28 PM
Sorry to hear that, man. I know the first time this prize came around, a bunch of us got stuck on 9. The McDoc method seems to have been somehow nerfed on the last 2-3 events. It was gold (pun intended) for about 5-6 events in a row, but now it somehow doesn't work. My 1-2 box method still gets me to 8 or 9 everytime for free, but never 10 anymore either.

At least they haven't switched us to the KA/CC format yet... (*knocking on wood*)

I buy into that conspiracy theory. At least I picked up 100 crap units I won't ever use.

War Priest
08-05-2012, 03:31 PM
I buy into that conspiracy theory. At least I picked up 100 crap units I won't ever use.

Hey, there is a bright side. :p

Jp lfs
08-05-2012, 03:34 PM
I buy into that conspiracy theory. At least I picked up 100 crap units I won't ever use.

I really feel like there needs to be another loot class based on your relative strength. With everyone putting event prizes in their sig. line, I want to put "Proud owner of 91 Defensive Cannons, 77 Armored Chargers, and 68 Dragon Soldiers." in my line. Zero of the loot items make my army, offensive or defensive. They might as well be tree snipers.

Copenhagen
08-05-2012, 03:42 PM
@WP -- hurry up and get the 10th so we can start the new boss. Let me chase a prize I know the cost of winning.

War Priest
08-05-2012, 03:44 PM
@WP -- hurry up and get the 10th so we can start the new boss. Let me chase a prize I know the cost of winning.

I am trying! If I can't win durring the event, I doubt I can win in OT.

Ranger4Life
08-05-2012, 03:58 PM
@WP -- hurry up and get the 10th so we can start the new boss. Let me chase a prize I know the cost of winning.

I'm right there with you. I'm done wasting gold on the crate events (3,500 this time to be stuck on 9). I'm going to stick with the boss because you know wht it takes.

Tanner
08-05-2012, 05:25 PM
Awaiting a WP update...

War Priest
08-05-2012, 05:26 PM
Awaiting a WP update...

Still no 10. 18 boxes left.

Ryans67
08-05-2012, 05:27 PM
Just open em all with resets!

War Priest
08-05-2012, 05:30 PM
Just open em all with resets!

No thanks.

CAPT.GIN
08-05-2012, 05:38 PM
Let it go WP let it go... This event wasent ment to happen for you...

War Priest
08-05-2012, 05:39 PM
Let it go WP let it go... This event wasent ment to happen for you...

IT WAS MEANT TO HAPPEN! :mad:

I swear, when the 30% cost reduction comes out, I will have 10 before anybody else even knows there is an event.

Vballmadam
08-05-2012, 05:42 PM
Let it go WP let it go... This event wasent ment to happen for you...

Gin he still has 18 lives! It's possible. You know you want him to get it.

WP keep going!

War Priest
08-05-2012, 05:45 PM
I am done with the event.

CAPT.GIN
08-05-2012, 05:46 PM
IT WAS MEANT TO HAPPEN! :mad:

I swear, when the 30% cost reduction comes out, I will have 10 before anybody else even knows there is an event.



This is why I don't do a lot of the crate events unless it's a great boost unit, because it's like gambling your not guaranteed to win. An when you don't win it drives you crazy!!!

Vballmadam
08-05-2012, 05:46 PM
I am done with the event.

No you're not. Don't live with regrets or what if. Keep going

War Priest
08-05-2012, 05:53 PM
No you're not. Don't live with regrets or what if. Keep going

No, I mean I accidentally closed out.

Vballmadam
08-05-2012, 05:58 PM
No, I mean I accidentally closed out.

You're kidding...that's something I would do. I'm sorry to hear that.

Oh well let's get all 10 the first day so we won't have to sweat it out.

War Priest
08-05-2012, 05:59 PM
You're kidding...that's something I would do. I'm sorry to hear that.

Oh well let's get all 10 the first day so we won't have to sweat it out.

Yeah, I will.

War Priest
08-05-2012, 05:59 PM
This is why I don't do a lot of the crate events unless it's a great boost unit, because it's like gambling your not guaranteed to win. An when you don't win it drives you crazy!!!

Don't mess with me man. I had to settle with 9, and had a crazy girl crush on me today. :eek:

BigDog146400220
08-05-2012, 06:06 PM
No, I mean I accidentally closed out.

Sorry buddy... I was pulling for ya.

David P
08-05-2012, 06:58 PM
Don't mess with me man. I had to settle with 9, and had a crazy girl crush on me today. :eek:

Priest! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I've only been checking the forums to see if you won..... A moment of silence for the fallen.

War Priest
08-05-2012, 07:01 PM
Priest! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I've only been checking the forums to see if you won..... A moment of silence for the fallen.

Thanks buddy...

CAPT.GIN
08-05-2012, 07:05 PM
WP I'll make you a trade...

CAPT.GIN
08-05-2012, 07:08 PM
Give me your super hind an ill give you my wicked viper...

War Priest
08-05-2012, 07:08 PM
Give me your super hind an ill give you my wicked viper...

That, I would do.

siL
08-05-2012, 07:10 PM
I'm still going in OT with 40 boxes...finger crossed...
about to open in 7 minutes....

Corsair
08-05-2012, 07:10 PM
Bummer WP. Feel for ya. Still hanging in here, 5 boxes left...

Semoga berhasil siL (had to ask the wife on that one :) ), you going to keep trying til you run out of boxes I take it?

Skyser30518
08-05-2012, 07:23 PM
No, I mean I accidentally closed out.
My son accidentally closed ours while I was at work. Arrrgghhhhhh! Had over 80 crates left to go. Oh well, won't happen again. Spent more gold on this event than all the others combined.

I feel your pain!!

Skyser30518
08-05-2012, 07:24 PM
I'm still going in OT with 40 boxes...finger crossed...
about to open in 7 minutes....
Go siL!!!!!!!

siL
08-05-2012, 07:27 PM
Bummer WP. Feel for ya. Still hanging in here, 5 boxes left...

Semoga berhasil siL (had to ask the wife on that one :) ), you going to keep trying til you run out of boxes I take it?


Go siL!!!!!!!

Lol...a very good bahasa there Corsair...I shall keep it until it runs out, or when I get that final engine, whichever comes first...
usually my luck is good in OT...that is if they haven't nerf it yet...
Is ryan also still in OT?? he has 80+ boxes the last time I read it??

CAPT.GIN
08-05-2012, 07:28 PM
That, I would do.



Ok let's trade then! I'll do it.... Man if only we could...

Ryans67
08-05-2012, 07:45 PM
I got the last one with about 5 hours left. I think I was around 5,600 gold. On my LLP, I had 12 cash opens in OT before my wife closed the app on my phone. I think there is only one other event item I will spend gold on, and that's the cost reduction. I would consider it for a boost item, if they ever get the last one to work. Lol.

Vballmadam
08-05-2012, 07:50 PM
I got the last one with about 5 hours left. I think I was around 5,600 gold. On my LLP, I had 12 cash opens in OT before my wife closed the app on my phone. I think there is only one other event item I will spend gold on, and that's the cost reduction. I would consider it for a boost item, if they ever get the last one to work. Lol.

Congrats on your success!

scheung1980
08-05-2012, 11:42 PM
I spent 3200 gold on this event...

Had my 600 gold for the 20 crates i had left.
Did the open/reset.....finally got it on the 9th box out of the 20...

If the 10th box is based on 1.4% then the McDoc theory doesnt really need to be followed since its based on chance?
Sorry...not trying to bag it...just saying if its based on %...then....you kn what i mean..hopefully

Next event i will just get to the 9th box with cash open(like i always do)..and just grab another 20-30 box....
And just open/reset.....Well.....thats just me....

Mcdoc
08-06-2012, 12:57 AM
Game just crashed - kicked me out of OT :/. Ended up with 9.


BTW . I didn't know you cold actually delete a whole thread :(. That's a new one for me. I gotta see how that works in case we have talk another person off the ledge after they post a FU Funzio thread like Gin (I think that's right) once did after a failed event ;)

Fl@sh
08-06-2012, 06:02 AM
http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii520/natch82/33c3e3b8.jpg

Vballmadam
08-06-2012, 06:10 AM
Congrats Fl@sh!

MadManDK
08-06-2012, 06:16 AM
Nice Fl@sh, congratulations.

Corsair
08-06-2012, 10:41 AM
Sigh...glad it worked for someone else. My luck with these events is just not good. :p

War Priest
08-06-2012, 10:44 AM
Sigh...glad it worked for someone else. My luck with these events is just not good. :p

Somebody got it during OT?

Miner
08-06-2012, 10:45 AM
Somebody got it during OT?

Doesn't look like it. There's time still on the timer in Flash's screen print.

Crazy Canuck
08-06-2012, 10:47 AM
Somebody got it during OT?You still tring in OT?

Corsair
08-06-2012, 10:50 AM
Doesn't look like it. There's time still on the timer in Flash's screen print.D'oh, my mistake. Wishful thinking I guess.

War Priest
08-06-2012, 10:50 AM
You still tring in OT?

Nope, not any more.

boardgames rule
08-06-2012, 11:02 AM
I missed the event when i went away. Oh well. What were the units for the 3,5,7,9,10 and the bonus?

Miner
08-06-2012, 11:08 AM
I missed the event when i went away. Oh well. What were the units for the 3,5,7,9,10 and the bonus?

Here's my thread with all events listed.

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?38028-Special-Event-Units-and-Tournament-Prize-Units

The other units at my level were, Elite Rover, Swift Osprey, Heavy Carrier (was quickly nerfed since it was 10th item event prize from previous event), Lethal AA, Dragon Viper.

albeezy
08-06-2012, 11:28 AM
So, somewhere I saw a post saying McDocs method has been nerfed? Really, or were people just stopping at 7 and then waited too long to go for it again? If so, that stinks.

Is the next crate event supposed to start tonight (2 days after last one ended)? Need to make sure I have a full energy bar when it starts. It is going to stink not using gold again as I have been getting hammered by people looking for boxes during crate events

albeezy
08-06-2012, 11:32 AM
On a better note, I am working on Boss 16 in the KA event. Should finish him off with cash hits. It's funny, bosses 10-16 have all taken the full 13 hits, but I keep adding units and raising my attack just enough to finish the next one off without gems. If I had 800k gold in KA I could probably get into the mid 20's with the bosses, and higher if I had better equipment. I have almost tripled my attack since the event started and am doing 12.6k damage with each cash hit at level 37. (3 rares and 2 uncommons so far)

Miner
08-06-2012, 11:34 AM
So, somewhere I saw a post saying McDocs method has been nerfed? Really, or were people just stopping at 7 and then waited too long to go for it again? If so, that stinks.

Is the next crate event supposed to start tonight (2 days after last one ended)? Need to make sure I have a full energy bar when it starts. It is going to stink not using gold again as I have been getting hammered by people looking for boxes during crate events

Hard to say if it was nerfed or not. It worked for me last event, though it took 1,800 gold or so.

I have a feeling we're not going to see a crate event start tonight. Could be wrong though.

Crazy Canuck
08-06-2012, 11:43 AM
We will see the boss event start before the create event most likely.

Corsair
08-06-2012, 11:58 AM
Nothing wrong with McDoc's method, it just gets it all done up front. Like scheung said a couple pages back, getting to 9 using cash and then hammering for the 10th would save some gold, though not much. If you were to spend 2000 gold on one of these events, probably 80% of that would be just for the 10th item, and another 5-10% for the 9th (assuming gold opens only, not resets). The others all drop relatively quick, it just seems to take longer with cash because of all the sorrys. Those numbers may be a little high since McDoc's method uses gold for resets and energy refills, but you get the idea. And remember, some have spent thousands on gold and never got the 10th, with or without McDoc's method.

albeezy
08-06-2012, 12:04 PM
Nothing wrong with McDoc's method, it just gets it all done up front. Like scheung said a couple pages back, getting to 9 using cash and then hammering for the 10th would save some gold, though not much. If you were to spend 2000 gold on one of these events, probably 80% of that would be just for the 10th item, and another 5-10% for the 9th (assuming gold opens only, not resets). The others all drop relatively quick, it just seems to take longer with cash because of all the sorrys. Those numbers may be a little high since McDoc's method uses gold for resets and energy refills, but you get the idea. And remember, some have spent thousands on gold and never got the 10th, with or without McDoc's method.

Yeah, it worked for me in the last event. I really wanted the 20 reduction in upgrade times so I made my first gold purchase, only $40. Started with 4 engines and pent 80 gold or so on energy refils, each time I got a crate I did a gold reset and gold open and managed to get 5-9 that way before I ran out of gold. Then I got 10 3 hours later and 2 opens later using the cash option. best 480 gold I have ever spent.

Miner
08-06-2012, 12:06 PM
Yeah, it worked for me in the last event. I really wanted the 20 reduction in upgrade times so I made my first gold purchase, only $40. Started with 4 engines and pent 80 gold or so on energy refils, each time I got a crate I did a gold reset and gold open and managed to get 5-9 that way before I ran out of gold. Then I got 10 3 hours later and 2 opens later using the cash option. best 480 gold I have ever spent.

Great purchase. The boost is well worth the money IMO. I'm holding onto the rest of my gold for the next boss event and will only dump gold on a crate event if they throw out a reduction in upgrade costs.

albeezy
08-06-2012, 12:09 PM
Great purchase. The boost is well worth the money IMO. I'm holding onto the rest of my gold for the next boss event and will only dump gold on a crate event if they throw out a reduction in upgrade costs.
the energy boost would be an incentive for me. I usually hit the tugboat during crate events (245 energy). Right now it takes me about 1.5 hours to have enough energy to hit it once. I lose a lot of boxes from attacks so it would be nice to be able to hit the tugboat every half hour to find a box, although I doubt a second energy boost would be 65% again because those that already had the previous one would have unlimited energy, you could do some serious leveling up and cash grabbing on the high map bosses though if that happend

Miner
08-06-2012, 12:15 PM
the energy boost would be an incentive for me. I usually hit the tugboat during crate events (245 energy).

What level are you on?

albeezy
08-06-2012, 12:59 PM
147 deep into shark infested waters

Fl@sh
08-06-2012, 01:12 PM
Thanks everybody. Sorry for those still trying in OT, didn't mean to get your hopes up. I finally took the time today to figure out how to post pics on the forum. I do have an OT win from an event, but not sure if I should post a photo or not(will it get nerfed?)

Mad
08-06-2012, 01:15 PM
Thanks everybody. Sorry for those still trying in OT, didn't mean to get your hopes up. I finally took the time today to figure out how to post pics on the forum. I do have an OT win from an event, but not sure if I should post a photo or not(will it get nerfed?)

Maybe we need to rephrase the question. Hypothetically if you were ever able to win a unit in OT, which one would you like to win? Maybe you even have a picture of that one.

Mcdoc
08-06-2012, 01:17 PM
Thanks everybody. Sorry for those still trying in OT, didn't mean to get your hopes up. I finally took the time today to figure out how to post pics on the forum. I do have an OT win from an event, but not sure if I should post a photo or not(will it get nerfed?)Fl@sh - we're jus all curious if anyone has EVER popped the 10th item in OT. Sounds like you did it once before in the past?

Poopenshire
08-06-2012, 01:22 PM
Fl@sh - we're jus all curious if anyone has EVER popped the 10th item in OT. Sounds like you did it once before in the past?
I can neither confirm nor deny the existance of a certain supersonic ship that may or may not have been gotten several hours after an event may or may not have ended.

War Priest
08-06-2012, 01:33 PM
Poopenshire, how long after the party did it happen?

Poopenshire
08-06-2012, 01:42 PM
Poopenshire, how long after the party did it happen?

6 hours and 4 opens

albeezy
08-06-2012, 01:51 PM
I can neither confirm nor deny the existance of a certain supersonic ship that may or may not have been gotten several hours after an event may or may not have ended.

The cat was already out of the bag?

Hi, just stopping in for my two cents. Supersonic Falcon, 5 hours into OT.
Isnt that a bug? LOL MUHAHAHAHAHAHA

Fl@sh
08-06-2012, 01:52 PM
I can confirm through a screenshot found somewhere in the abyss of the internet that a certain pilot joined a certain army during OT.
http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii520/natch82/eb882cd4.jpg

mickymacirl
08-06-2012, 01:54 PM
well i'm mad at you for getting the heavy carrier. give it to me and i'll give u the chopper, but keep my bonus :P

it was actually kind of weird. I had about 16 boxes yesterday after a pvp run. opened box after box yesterday and today. got down to my last box. got 2 sorry's after I got off work. Thought about doing another PVP run to get a bunch of boxes for OT. Decided, no, i'm going to see whats in this last box first. boom, out popped the engine. I think if i had done pvp and gotten back up to around 20 boxes, the 10th part wouldnt have popped out.

call me superstitious.

You are correct! Less boxes the better I've found! I try to keep less than 5 at a time, doesn't always work out though...

Poopenshire
08-06-2012, 01:55 PM
I always said all along I do it too, just not gonna act all hypocritical about it. I am a slimeball and admitt it. its the people who don't admitt and think they are better that get me upset.

albeezy
08-06-2012, 02:00 PM
I always said all along I do it too, just not gonna act all hypocritical about it. I am a slimeball and admitt it. its the people who don't admitt and think they are better that get me upset.
If this was towards me, I was just having some fun! We are all friends here (at least I hope we are?) Good stuff though, good stuff

Poopenshire
08-06-2012, 02:02 PM
If this was towards me, I was just having some fun! We are all friends here (at least I hope we are?) Good stuff though, good stuff
nah it was at all the lurkers and people who used to be our friends on here but were outed as using hacks and cheats and are no longer here, atleast formally. notice how some names are no longer here.....they use to complain about hacks and cheats and are no longer with us in the game.

Fl@sh
08-06-2012, 02:03 PM
Fl@sh - we're jus all curious if anyone has EVER popped the 10th item in OT. Sounds like you did it once before in the past?
Mcdoc, I modify your method a little with under 30 seconds left in the event. When the timer hits 30 seconds, I combine gold opens with resets. I also keep a low number of boxes on hand during this time, 3 one time and got this result one the last open -
http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii520/natch82/6d0f3548.jpg
I also "know" a guy that had about 6 boxes on hand and got the item with the 3rd open into OT...

Saso
08-06-2012, 03:45 PM
Are you guys spending hundreds of $$$\ on this game? As I have spent around $100 and for a time based game where I can only play after my energy has replenished, I think that's still to much. I would be happy with 1 10th item :-( after all it's not COD or anything haha

Corsair
08-06-2012, 03:59 PM
Yeah, it worked for me in the last event. I really wanted the 20 reduction in upgrade times so I made my first gold purchase, only $40. Started with 4 engines and pent 80 gold or so on energy refils, each time I got a crate I did a gold reset and gold open and managed to get 5-9 that way before I ran out of gold. Then I got 10 3 hours later and 2 opens later using the cash option. best 480 gold I have ever spent.Yeah, spending gold early to get up to 9 is a decent low-gold strategy since it will maximize your opening opportunities for the 10th item, regardless of whether you use cash or gold and regardless of whether you hammer away for the 10th or wait it out. Hmm...sounds like a pretty decent alternative to the McDoc method.


the energy boost would be an incentive for me. [...] I doubt a second energy boost would be 65% again because those that already had the previous one would have unlimited energy, you could do some serious leveling up and cash grabbing on the high map bosses though if that happendI actually got that unit...it increases the regeneration per minute from 3 to 5. So they could offer it again and it would go up to 8. While that would be almost 200% faster than base, it is definitely not unlimited energy...but it is nice when trying to get boxes. :)

negotiator
08-06-2012, 05:00 PM
Still at 8 in OT I was hoping to at least get number 9 but I am about to let it go as it does not appear to be in the cards for me. Been stuck on 8 since Tuesday longest streak for me in all the events.

Copenhagen
08-06-2012, 05:06 PM
Congrats Flash!

Just because a strategy works for one player doesn't mean it will work for another. Fast out of the gate is the only consistent success strategy that I have seen.

Saso
08-06-2012, 10:41 PM
The new event boss has started :)

Corsair
08-07-2012, 06:15 AM
Congrats Flash!

Just because a strategy works for one player doesn't mean it will work for another. Fast out of the gate is the only consistent success strategy that I have seen.It's also the only strategy anyone has really talked about and that others have tried repeatedly. And it hasn't been 100% either. Any way you do it, spend a ton of gold and maybe you get lucky.