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spectra
08-09-2012, 06:11 PM
I finally started level 8 breeding Den upgrade and did not had to sell my Manors

I want to thank all that help me think of better ways and/or possible routes to take to achieve this milestone

It took me just over 2 days to raise the gold, but I got it

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd299/spectra69/IMG_6146.png

Cut my allies from 525 down to 399 (trying to fly under the radar)
got the $330k vaulted
had tons of monsters with one hit to kill
sync all my buildings to collect at once (collected twice from my Manor during this time)
used all my energy during this time to kill as many monster as I could since I kill most of them with 1 or 2 hits (except bosses)

Raided non-stop the living hell out of every gold building that was ready for the taken, tons of Manors, Silos, lenders, playgrounds, castles........



I also want to thank all those players that I raided like crazy during the past 2 days for not collecting on time

I also want to apoligize to any forum member if I raided/attacked you, or deleted you from my allies (I pretty much deleted only those lower than level 50, unless I knew them like WP and Jhoemel)

Now I got two days to start saving again to buy as many Hydras as I can





Here is the link for what you can do to get to lv-7 if you are not sure how to do it:

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37386-STRATEGY-TO-GET-BREEDEN-DEN-TO-LV-7-Need-help-for-lv-8!!

Jhoemel
08-09-2012, 06:22 PM
Congrats spectra, now the new challenge. Level 9 breeding den :)

spectra
08-09-2012, 06:25 PM
Congrats spectra, now the new challenge. Level 9 breeding den :)

yeah!
I think I will buy a couple hundreds Hydras and drop another 100 allies.....lol
just to test how that would work

Cheers

d_nickels
08-09-2012, 06:25 PM
Grats, I'm impressed you made it at your level. I get hit by whales once in a while myself and I have similar stats to you. Did you get hit at all during your collection time?

spectra
08-09-2012, 06:27 PM
Grats, I'm impressed you made it at your level. I get hit by whales once in a while myself and I have similar stats to you. Did you get hit at all during your collection time?

not once!!!!!!!!!!!..........:cool:

maybe bacause I drop my allies from max down to 399 only
perhaps I fell below their radars OR was just too darn lucky for a couple of days :)

echus14
08-09-2012, 06:38 PM
Congrats Spectra .... now put me back in your allies list, please! :p

Euchred
08-09-2012, 06:47 PM
Nice one Spectra What's the plan for level 9 and 10 I keep coming back to real money :(

I just got both my Manors to level 3 but still expect this to be a challenge when I get there.

The_Red
08-09-2012, 06:56 PM
....congrats!

The_Legend_Shall_Live_On
08-09-2012, 07:00 PM
Well done! Here's a towel to wipe the sweat from your forehead!

Eragon
08-09-2012, 07:01 PM
Congrats Spectra!

Hapl0
08-09-2012, 07:18 PM
Congrats buddy!

Joe Brown1
08-09-2012, 07:25 PM
Congrats!!! Huge at your level.

Jnesbitt82
08-09-2012, 07:49 PM
Congratulations, and thanks for keeping me as an ally!

Hobtuse
08-09-2012, 08:50 PM
Congrats :) It worked..

Welcome to the Hydra alliance :o

MSH
08-09-2012, 09:26 PM
You are an inspiration to us all - congrats :)

tcapi
08-09-2012, 09:28 PM
Congrats...

YLL
08-09-2012, 09:55 PM
Congratulations! :) Now, how about them dragons? ;)

Bea
08-09-2012, 10:08 PM
Well done Bud! 😄

ShawnBB
08-09-2012, 10:27 PM
http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/ShawnBBB/38af519f.jpg

Going for the lvl4 upgrade straight after. Will not pass over lvl100 before I finish my breeding den and high lvl manor.
make sure to have a 13000+ IpH before unlocking the dragon.:p

spectra
08-09-2012, 10:37 PM
Thanks to ALL for you spirited comments, they mean alot to me

Cheers

Boom
08-09-2012, 10:39 PM
Good luck to lvl 10. I would probably camp right at 50 and until lvl 10 breeding den..

spectra
08-09-2012, 10:40 PM
Going for the lvl4 upgrade straight after. Will not pass over lvl100 before I finish my breeding den and high lvl manor.
make sure to have a 13000+ IpH before unlocking the dragon.:p

AWESOME Kingdome.
I know I can upgrade to lv-2 my manor, not sure how will work around for lv-3
But for sure I need to increase my IPH (right now is only 7K) ben upgrading my merchans, 1 is at level 8 the other lv-6
and I do collect every hour, but after the den wil hit the lender and manors

You have given me an idea on what to do next, thanks alot

Cheers

Everson25
08-09-2012, 10:51 PM
Sorry Spectra for my OT. Is the avatar one of the Zodiac Warriors?

Everson25
08-09-2012, 11:00 PM
Back to topic, by tomorrow im gonna be half way through level 9. The second half is the part which I will be watching my rivals list. I'm already planning how I will work towards level 10. I've been upgrading some buildings while I save for my bd. I wont change the way I'm doing things but if I would do I would upgrade my Manors first as much as I could to help me with the gold that I need to.

spectra
08-09-2012, 11:06 PM
Sorry Spectra for my OT. Is the avatar one of the Zodiac Warriors?

Yes, he is Shaka-Virgo, my other favorites are Kamus-Acuarious and Ikki-Phoenix among others..:)

Everson25
08-09-2012, 11:14 PM
Yes, he is Shaka-Virgo, my other favorites are Kamus-Acuarious and Ikki-Phoenix among others..:)I used to watch that cartoon. As a matter of fact, I watched the whole series. Probably I went for Dragon Ball and Samurai X after that.

spectra
08-09-2012, 11:20 PM
I used to watch that cartoon. As a matter of fact, I watched the whole series. Probably I went for Dragon Ball and Samurai X after that.
I have the WHOLE series, including the lost cavaans (which they never finished)
I have watched (and also have in my computer) all Dragon balls, samura X, get backers, blue dragon, Inuyasha, Naruto, Transformers

John Snow
08-09-2012, 11:28 PM
Spectra - congratulations on lvl 8! I'll be working on the Breeding Den in the next couple of weeks. Thanks to everyone for the good ideas.

Everson25
08-09-2012, 11:29 PM
Did you but them all or just download from net? I would like to watch them again. Nowadays I've been watching all Marvel series that I find. I have The whole series for Spider Man.

Everson25
08-09-2012, 11:30 PM
Spectra - congratulations on lvl 8! I'll be working on the Breeding Den in the next couple of weeks. Thanks to everyone for the good ideas.Hi John! I think Spectra is upgrading level 8.

Everson25
08-09-2012, 11:31 PM
Sorry John! I see you already edited...lol. You were too fast...lol

Dewsy
08-09-2012, 11:36 PM
Congrats spectra! Once I finish getting my lumber mill to level 10 this is my next goal.

spectra
08-09-2012, 11:38 PM
Did you but them all or just download from net? I would like to watch them again. Nowadays I've been watching all Marvel series that I find. I have The whole series for Spider Man.

I download them, and watch some episodes from time to time, like in DG when Goku is fighting the 3 eye guy in the tournament and he takes off the training clothes rochi gave him instead of the turtle shell, that has hillarious to see
also like to see the ikki/shaka fight, and all ikki fights
I also saw all BLEACH, that was a very cool anime

Everson25
08-09-2012, 11:39 PM
Congrats spectra! Once I finish getting my lumber mill to level 10 this is my next goal.Did you start upgrading your bd? What level is you Lumber already? Mine is level 7 and I agree with you that helps a lot.

Jhoemel
08-10-2012, 12:14 AM
yeah!
I think I will buy a couple hundreds Hydras and drop another 100 allies.....lol
just to test how that would work

Cheers

Yeah I hope you get it too spectra. That will also be my problem when I got to that level :)

Hobtuse
08-10-2012, 12:23 AM
Did you start upgrading your bd? What level is you Lumber already? Mine is level 7 and I agree with you that helps a lot.

actually im not sure if upgrading lumber mill helps as much as people think. lumber mill only offers a gold discount and the opportunity cost of pursuing the upgrade is that of upgrading income buildings that also hastens towards the goal of getting to the sum required.

my lumber mill was only at level 3 when i did my breeding den level 8 upgrade.

Dewsy
08-10-2012, 12:55 AM
Did you start upgrading your bd? What level is you Lumber already? Mine is level 7 and I agree with you that helps a lot.

My BD is level 5 and my lumber mill is halfway through The upgrade to level 8.

@Hobtuse. I agree to an extent but my thinking is that for the 330k+ upgrades it will lower the amount needed and so reduce the time I will need to have unvaulted gold. It will also make the number of bosses I need to leave with 1 hit etc be lower.

Everson25
08-10-2012, 01:12 AM
actually im not sure if upgrading lumber mill helps as much as people think. lumber mill only offers a gold discount and the opportunity cost of pursuing the upgrade is that of upgrading income buildings that also hastens towards the goal of getting to the sum required.

my lumber mill was only at level 3 when i did my breeding den level 8 upgrade.How much is gonna cost bd level 9 for you?

Hobtuse
08-10-2012, 02:31 AM
My BD is level 5 and my lumber mill is halfway through The upgrade to level 8.

@Hobtuse. I agree to an extent but my thinking is that for the 330k+ upgrades it will lower the amount needed and so reduce the time I will need to have unvaulted gold. It will also make the number of bosses I need to leave with 1 hit etc be lower.

Yes I do have to concede on that point that a higher level lumber mill allows you to reduce the time for unvaulted gold.
But as chained boss hits go, I always try to maximize this aspect with almost 90% of full energy (i.e. I plan all the boss hits to total up 90% of max energy to reduce the reliance on unvaulted gold)

Cost of upgrade for lumber mill + Savings on gold for upgrades >> Cost of upgrade for income buildings + Effective gold collected.

For me, the former must greatly exceed the latter for me to consider upgrading the lumber mill. You will reap the benefits of income collected in that you can choose to upgrade buildings or purchase units/armor/weapons with it while with gold discount, the benefits are cheaper buildings (not significant) and upgrades..


How much is gonna cost bd level 9 for you?

$1,115,500..

Everson25
08-10-2012, 02:47 AM
That's the point I take in consideration Hobtuse! If I'm not wrong I'm gonna pay 1.060.000 for lv 9. The next upgrade for lumber is gonna cost around 50k. If the cost for the lv 9 drops further that 50k I would say that's relly worthy. Besides its gonna also drop the cost for level 10 ever more. It takes 33 hours or something like that, so It could be worthy.

P4TR1C14N
08-10-2012, 03:47 AM
Congratz Spectra.

SeqWins
08-10-2012, 03:52 AM
Forum Knight grandfather doing work, keep it up Spectra go for 9 now

Everson25
08-10-2012, 04:03 AM
King Bronson might come here later showing off...lol. He's gonna start upgrading level 9 today.

Bronson
08-10-2012, 04:05 AM
Good work Spec! I just broke the 1 million mark so another 80k to get my lvl 9 - but I do appreciate that it's gonna be much tougher to do it up there than down here

Everson25
08-10-2012, 04:11 AM
Good work Spec! I just broke the 1 million mark so another 80k to get my lvl 9 - but I do appreciate that it's gonna be much tougher to do it up there than down hereWhen I said you might come I didn't expect that you would come so quickly. Are you gonna go same plan for level 10?

Dewsy
08-10-2012, 04:15 AM
Yes I do have to concede on that point that a higher level lumber mill allows you to reduce the time for unvaulted gold.
But as chained boss hits go, I always try to maximize this aspect with almost 90% of full energy (i.e. I plan all the boss hits to total up 90% of max energy to reduce the reliance on unvaulted gold)

Cost of upgrade for lumber mill + Savings on gold for upgrades >> Cost of upgrade for income buildings + Effective gold collected.

For me, the former must greatly exceed the latter for me to consider upgrading the lumber mill. You will reap the benefits of income collected in that you can choose to upgrade buildings or purchase units/armor/weapons with it while with gold discount, the benefits are cheaper buildings (not significant) and upgrades..



$1,115,500..

That is a good argument and I do agree, I may stop at 8 when this upgrade finishes.

So far the way only way I can see myself getting to level 9/10 BD is through spending cash :(

Hobtuse
08-10-2012, 04:27 AM
That is a good argument and I do agree, I may stop at 8 when this upgrade finishes.

So far the way only way I can see myself getting to level 9/10 BD is through spending cash :(

are you at level 8 BD too? I am only going for level 9 BD once I hit your IPH level. At 10k iph, the gap of unvaulted gold is just 3 days or less which is a lot more comfortable than my current level.

we could discuss the breeding den level 8-10 upgrades in the forum knights thread in greater detail

Dewsy
08-10-2012, 05:54 AM
are you at level 8 BD too? I am only going for level 9 BD once I hit your IPH level. At 10k iph, the gap of unvaulted gold is just 3 days or less which is a lot more comfortable than my current level.

we could discuss the breeding den level 8-10 upgrades in the forum knights thread in greater detail

Oh no sorry, I will stop upgrading my lumber mill when the current upgrade finishes which is level 8. I'm only level 5 BD but will start upgrading it towards level 8+ tomorrow. Will start thinking of the best way for level 9 now though to minimise the amount of time with exposed gold.

YLL
08-10-2012, 05:57 AM
When I said you might come I didn't expect that you would come so quickly.

You can get medical help for that sort of problem these days... ;)

TemplarX
08-10-2012, 09:55 AM
Basic question...how much do you get for selling money buildings? Or for that matter, a level 2 manor? Is it half the value you put in upgrading them?

albeezy
08-10-2012, 10:25 AM
should be half purchase price and if upgraded add half price for each upgrade if you want to test it upgrade the cheapest defense building to level 2 and sell a level 1 and the level 2. You will get more for the level 2 than the level 1.

Vile Lynn
08-10-2012, 10:27 AM
Awesome job, Spectra!! Thanks for the tips & info how you did it... please keep us updated :)

Buddha44
08-10-2012, 10:30 AM
Good luck to lvl 10. I would probably camp right at 50 and until lvl 10 breeding den..

Boom, I'm going to try the same thing, but it's hard not to PVP so hopefully I level slowly enough that I don't attract too many whales or whales-to-be.

Everson25
08-10-2012, 11:12 AM
Boom, I'm going to try the same thing, but it's hard not to PVP so hopefully I level slowly enough that I don't attract too many whales or whales-to-be.As it was stated before. It's all about the level you are and the number of allies. Higher you are, harder it is. But those that think that's easy on low levels need to remember that there are still players around hunting. So it's stressful sometimes when there are so much effort put it already. But it's possible for sure.

Buddha44
08-10-2012, 12:31 PM
As it was stated before. It's all about the level you are and the number of allies. Higher you are, harder it is. But those that think that's easy on low levels need to remember that there are still players around hunting. So it's stressful sometimes when there are so much effort put it already. But it's possible for sure.

I definitely agree with you. I did both my manors at lvl48 in the hopes that those with basiliks (lvl50+) would not be able to see me. I had only 13 allies then and my defense density was about 230. I was attacked a number of times but luckily did not lose. I am sure if I was found by the right attacker, they would have stripped me. My vault was only $50k for the first manor and $67k for the second so I had a lot of unvaulted cash. I was also fortunate that I found others with unvaulted cash who contributed to my cause.

SeqWins
08-10-2012, 04:00 PM
I know this is OT but I don't really want to start a new thread just for a new question by I fired I'd ask it here considering there is some pros in this thread... Does anybody have the upgrade times and cost for a Lumber Mill?

Bea
08-10-2012, 04:27 PM
1 4.5k 12hrs
2. 7.5k 15hrs
3. 12.5k 18hrs
4. 21k 21hrs
5. 35k 24hrs
6. 58k 27hrs
7. 98k 30hrs
8. 165k 33hrs
9. 270k 36hrs
10. 455k 39hrs

SeqWins
08-10-2012, 04:38 PM
Thank you Bea i appreciate it a lot...

Joie
08-11-2012, 10:21 AM
The key to avoiding whales is the number of allies. Since I dropped mine to 150 I rarely if ever get raided by a whale. It seem that in a way I become a whale with those numbers because I get a load of players to attack that have a third or less of my a/d.

PorkChopExpress
08-11-2012, 10:43 AM
You'll definitely have to sell not just one, but both when going for lvl 10...

Njwmrb
08-12-2012, 02:41 PM
You'll definitely have to sell not just one, but both when going for lvl 10...

I was thinking about this and I don't think I would. Both of my manors will be lvl 3 when I go for lvl 10 breeding den and if I sold both I would get 1.3 mill but I would also be LOSING 1.3 mill. Any attacker is only going to take 150-200k from you tops before you are too weak to battle again, so I think I would rather just take my chances.

The_Red
08-12-2012, 02:42 PM
I was thinking about this and I don't think I would. Both of my manors will be lvl 3 when I go for lvl 10 breeding den and if I sold both I would get 1.3 mill but I would also be LOSING 1.3 mill. Any attacker is only going to take 150-200k from you tops before you are too weak to battle again, so I think I would rather just take my chances.

Do you actually get 1/2 the value of the upgrades as well? Or just 1/2 the value of the 250k original cost?

Jeshu
08-12-2012, 04:16 PM
Congrats!!!

Njwmrb
08-12-2012, 08:18 PM
Do you actually get 1/2 the value of the upgrades as well? Or just 1/2 the value of the 250k original cost?

upgrades also

Muddy
08-13-2012, 09:54 PM
http://www.funzio.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1631&d=1344920046
88 level

Addyman
08-17-2012, 01:29 AM
Well, just started my Level 7 Breeding Den so level 8 is next.

Level 7 was relatively stress free, only 50K or so above vault limit.

Level 8 looks a bit more daunting. I'm thinking of going down the route of selling my Manors as that would give me 250K, plus vault limit is 580K and I can easily have another 100K in collections and also from having bosses and high paying enemies lined up with one hit left on them.

Seems a shame to sell them but compared to where I am now in terms of income etc. and income from enemies from when I first built them, I reckon I can easily rebuild them within 2 or 3 days.

Addyman
08-21-2012, 06:37 AM
Well, Level 8 Breeding Den is complete. Decided to sell my Manors but have already started one off re-building and well on the way to having enough gold for the second.

Looking forward to investing in some Hydras :)

P4TR1C14N
08-22-2012, 01:33 PM
Congratz addyman! I just started my upgrade to lvl8 also. Didn't sell anything.
Now find a way for lvl9 & 10 without selling anything.

Njwmrb
08-22-2012, 02:16 PM
Just had the most stressful 3 minutes of my life...

So I have 1.3 mill and my breeding den is almost ready to upgrade and I get attacked. So I buy 200 high priests and then have to wait 3 minutes for my Breeding Den lvl 6 upgrade to finish (while watching my money dropping sporadically) so I could pay for lvl 7 and go back into my vault limit.

P4TR1C14N
08-22-2012, 02:20 PM
Njwmrb... Why that much money out if you only need for lvl7? Manor upgrades?

Njwmrb
08-22-2012, 02:23 PM
Njwmrb... Why that much money out if you only need for lvl7? Manor upgrades?

I've been testing the waters to see if I would get attacked while going for lvl 10. I started upgrading the den to lvl 2 with about 600k and have been accumulating money since to put towards the late upgrades. Made it 11 days over vault limit without losing money until just now

Luckily I happened to be playing, lost under 100k when it could have been twice that

I'm starting to believe that you appear more on the rivals list if you are playing then when you are not because this is at least the 3rd time I've been attacked while I was playing

Joe Brown1
08-22-2012, 03:24 PM
Just had the most stressful 3 minutes of my life...

So I have 1.3 mill and my breeding den is almost ready to upgrade and I get attacked. So I buy 200 high priests and then have to wait 3 minutes for my Breeding Den lvl 6 upgrade to finish (while watching my money dropping sporadically) so I could pay for lvl 7 and go back into my vault limit.

That is an awful feeling. I was at 1.4 million when I got attacked for 150K and had to wait half a day to see if the attacker would ally with me. Didn't festered until I finally got the lvl 10 paid for. I totally sympathize with you!!!