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danielletb2008
10-25-2012, 06:32 PM
Hit List... Please Read...

Ok I know I'm not innocent of raiding but there is such thing as going too far. These two guys raid me DAILY!!! It's every few hours for almost a month now. I go on their page and find out that they are in cahoots planning attacks on me... I'm losing Trolls, Cannons, Flaming Trebuchets. And my highest building is a level 6 Silo, so they aren't attacking me for money. I need some help....

I think it's time to show them not to mess with a forum member and give them some of their own medicine.

If you see...

Grimey level 48 Mage (guy green character with long dark brown hair)

Elisar level 46 Mage (guy green character with white hair and robe)

Please attack or raid them... I'm done being nice :mad:...

cl!CKeR
10-25-2012, 07:28 PM
How can we find them? Isn't the rival list supposedly a random list for each player within a certain level bracket?

danielletb2008
10-25-2012, 07:55 PM
Yea, you can only find them if you are level 45 to 49. Then just refresh your attack list until you see them. Thank you for your help, even if you cant find them. :)

albeezy
10-25-2012, 08:03 PM
What are their stats? I will be happy to give them a few taps for you but my stats are only around 33k at level 46 or 46

albeezy
10-25-2012, 08:16 PM
Send me an ally request so I can have your name ingame. Thanks! I looked through my rival list and didn't see them. They aren't on my ally list either. I am level 46 soon to be 47. Maybe I will see them once I level up.

Dexter Morgan
10-25-2012, 08:22 PM
Get em albeezy

Funkey monkey
10-25-2012, 08:23 PM
Danielle
Set a timer on your phone and don't let your buildings go uncollected. If you have nothing for them to raid, they should go away. If that doesn't work, you can send me a PM.

marebear
10-25-2012, 09:53 PM
Ways to avoid them: collect on time, do not retaliate so you fall off their news feed, change your ally count, level fast or camp, ask support to change your in game name. Ask them to stop. Good luck.

albeezy
10-25-2012, 09:53 PM
Haven't been able to find em yet but I'll keep looking

asdfg12345
10-25-2012, 09:58 PM
dont talk smack after they raid you cause that will just make them come back

myxzyden
10-25-2012, 09:58 PM
Well, some players just do things without any reason mYbe.
i've got this guy who attacks me every few hours for the past week or so. Everytime he does that he lost the fight along with some units. I just dont get it......

If he continues for a few more days I'll have to request fellow forumers to get him off my back :)

albeezy
10-25-2012, 10:42 PM
Okay I found Elisar and he only has 25k stats so he probably can't touch me

BUT

PrincessTiffany I am hesitant to step in after reading his wall. Send me an ally request 630488613. I want to check out your base first

albeezy
10-26-2012, 07:50 AM
dont talk smack after they raid you cause that will just make them come back

He did worse than that. He apparently attacked one of them and then proceeded to try and spam it off his newsfeed by posting on his wall. Seriously, every post on Elisar's wall is from Princess Tiffany except the first one. PT if you are going to ask for help ask for it before you really piss someone off. You broke at least two of the cardinal rules for getting someone to leave you alone. First, don't ever attack someone who is stronger than you-that just gives them a non-stop flight to your base from their newsfeed. Second, dont spam someone's wall. Even if you removed yourself from his newsfeed, which I doubt you did because the feed in KA is so long, they will just look for you in the battle list.

Have not been able to find the other guy yet

danielletb2008
10-26-2012, 10:05 PM
What are their stats? I will be happy to give them a few taps for you but my stats are only around 33k at level 46 or 46 17k attack and 25k defense for Grimey and the other is 22k attack and 23k defense. I dot have boosted stats so it might be different.

danielletb2008
10-26-2012, 10:09 PM
I was trying to get my attack button off his comments. I thought if I sent him a bunch of comments, my name would disappear. He was hitting me for weeks WAY before that so that's not what did it. I hit him 2x about a month ago and got 9k each time. He got mad cuz I have lower stats and won. Hitting me daily is unnecessary and I'm just trying to camp so I have a weaker boss.

And the other guy Grimey has no reason, he's just a douche.

ChaosRules
10-27-2012, 07:00 AM
Never attack a player stronger than you. You brought this on yourself. I have about 55k atk/def (all free) and was attacked about a month ago by someone with about 20k def. I attack him daily since then to boost my tournament round winnings, but I don't raid because I get nothing for it other than chump change.

However, I wouldn't team up with someone else to raid another player for no reason, other than a little object lesson for a few days maybe.

Good luck.

Elisar
10-27-2012, 08:40 AM
PT isn't telling you about all the times she raided us. From me alone she raided me every chance she could and took millions from me. It took me a couple of months to get to where I could fight back. And now that I have outplayed her she is crying foul. She is getting her just rewards. If you raid someone that is the game, I don't get mad over that. Trying to use me as an unlimited ATM machine, that is a whole different subject. I didn't start this war but I've learned how to fight it. If Tiffany doesn't like it, she can apologize and send an ally request so she can't attack me anymore. But diplomacy is something she hasn't tried - attacks are all I've ever gotten from her/him.

Elisar
10-27-2012, 08:55 AM
When PT started attacking me she was stronger than I was. I had a much better IPH, which is why I was able to build my A&D up so much. I don't really care about raiding and attacking, There is no profit in it and i make much more off buildings. I just wanted to upgrade the manors and lenders. But every time I got above the vault limit she would come calling. To me, KA is like FarmVille for men, and I just want to build up my kingdom up. I attack for goals, otherwise I look for the hackers and hit them for events. But with PT it's personal. If you could see my news, you could see how many raids she has done because no one else raids me, at least not more than once. Because I haven't lost to anyone other than PT in a couple of months so that list is short.

marebear
10-27-2012, 09:05 AM
Bam Elisar for the win! *best popcorn ever* Lesson learned Tiff? Send an ally request and hope he accepts. Good job Elisar.

asdfg12345
10-27-2012, 10:27 AM
When PT started attacking me she was stronger than I was. I had a much better IPH, which is why I was able to build my A&D up so much. I don't really care about raiding and attacking, There is no profit in it and i make much more off buildings. I just wanted to upgrade the manors and lenders. But every time I got above the vault limit she would come calling. To me, KA is like FarmVille for men, and I just want to build up my kingdom up. I attack for goals, otherwise I look for the hackers and hit them for events. But with PT it's personal. If you could see my news, you could see how many raids she has done because no one else raids me, at least not more than once. Because I haven't lost to anyone other than PT in a couple of months so that list is short.
wow and she comes on here crying for help. I am glad you told the other side of the story.

danielletb2008
10-27-2012, 12:29 PM
U LIAR, I WAS NEVER STRONGER THEN YOU.... I WAS AT 19K AND YOU WERE AT 22K ATTACK AND DEFENSE!!!! AND YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP, EVERY CHANCE I GOT HUH??? I RAIDED U 3X... REALLY EVERY CHANCE????? AND THEN U TEAM UP WITH A MORON WHO I HIT ONCE AND HIT ME EVERY FEW HOURS FOR A MONTH??? I HAVE SCREEN SHOTS AND YOU BOTH SAYING THAT YOU WAN TO TEACH ME A LESSON FOR HITTING A PLAYER STRONGER THEN MYSELF AND SAYING THAT GREE IS CRAP BECAUSE ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IT "AS LONG AS MORONS ARE BUYING GEMS"

Just because he posts on my thread doesn't mean what he said is true.... That's not the other side of the story, he's full of crap. He is just posting that to make sure he doesn't get hit. I hit him twice because he had 660k in his hand and got 9k, then tried to hit him another 3x and lost because his stats are better then mine. Then he hit me the next couple of days so when I went for revenge, his Manors were ready so I hit them and his playhouse... Then he came back for me and I came back for him one last time... After that I stopped, he got raided a total of 3 times and that is supposed to make up for EVERY DAY FOR A MONTH? I wouldn't even care if it wasn't the both of you. And the other guy is just a moron, I only hit his guy once....

and there is no way in hell I am going to add you Elisar, you are a complete douche bag, you're lucky I am camping for the boss. I have no buildings with money for you to raid, all you can do it try and take away my units. YOU ARE PATHETIC, LIYING ON THE FORUM AND TEAMING UP WITH OTHER PLAYERS TO HIT SOMEONE WEAKER THEN YOU???? YOU'RE LIKE A BIG BULLY AGAINST A LITTLE GUY WHO GOES AND LOOKS FOR HELP.... WHO WON??? DAVID OR GOLIATH???

Mervic
10-27-2012, 12:32 PM
Princess, would you care to explain your side of story?

marebear
10-27-2012, 12:35 PM
*pops more popcorn* It's like it's a battle game or something... Lol.

danielletb2008
10-27-2012, 12:51 PM
and here is a direct quote from his comments, I will also be adding a picture.

Elisar "No way you should be able to raid me and win with our stats but you do. I have thousands of more A&D and you are attacking buildings surrounded by defense buildings an inferior army, an ego and win. But when I attempt to raid, if I dont have better stats than I'm attacking I lose."

Elisar
10-27-2012, 02:23 PM
The first time you raided me was months ago. I let the first couple slide because you leveled up and I didn't think I would have to deal with you. But when I leveled up you were there and doing the same old crap. I'm not going to get in a pissing contest with you over words. I'll just head over to your base and see if your stamina has recovered. You say whatever you want, I don't really care. You know what you have to do, my course is set.

ryano
10-27-2012, 02:28 PM
Wow, seriously... You obviously lied when you claimed she took millions. She obviously lied about doing anything and then spamming you certainly didn't help. Both of you need to let it go.

Elisar
10-27-2012, 03:06 PM
She attacked me every time she could until I made level 9 and was able to buy high priests. After I got enough of them she stopped attacking and just did raids of the manors, lenders and silos. And even when I had 400 high priests and 250 lichens and my stats were much better than hers she still won 50% of her raids. Tuesday she raided one manor, one lender and both silos, which makes no sense because I had much more A&D than her and she was attacking buildings surrounded by gun towers and runic circles. I've seen her units and stats - no way she should be beating me. The battle engine is messed up. Only one thing to do - hit her until he/she loses enough trolls that she is no longer a threat. My IPH is good, I can waste a few hundred liches and high priests and rebuild. Like I said, I wasn't looking for a fight but I have one on my hands and PT has shown me that she isn't going to let up - she will raid and attack every chance she gets. I'm fed up with it and it ends now or neither of us will have an army left.

Mervic
10-27-2012, 04:22 PM
Marebear, can you share your popcorn? 🍻🍻🍻 Oh I liked some butter on top, please! This might take a while.

Deskjockey
10-27-2012, 06:36 PM
This is better than most reality TV shows. Pass the popcorn! Now if we could just get screen caps of the news feeds from both sides (and maybe screen caps of the battles and their aftermath...).

Dexter Morgan
10-27-2012, 06:55 PM
What level are both of you?

Elisar
10-27-2012, 07:48 PM
I'm Currently at level 47, just leveled up this morning. PT was a couple sbove me, so she is at 48. I guess now I'll have to go up to 50 and start going for dragons. I just spent all of last week upgrading the beast warren hoping that if I got some trolls they could counteract her trolls so I wouldn't lose to raids but that didn't work either. After the last raid I had 330,000 and I blew it all on high priests and liches. That is the point at which I decided to go kamikaze on the good princess.

Joie
10-27-2012, 08:45 PM
Yea no smack and do not retaliate and they will go away soon enough. I'm level 112 so I would be able to help, good luck though

Dexter Morgan
10-27-2012, 09:10 PM
Once you get to 50 go straight to bd10. Then start dragons. Not many at 50 that are very strong. I was at 53 before I finished bd10

Franklon
10-27-2012, 11:02 PM
Best strategy is to buy gems and build an ungodly army! Support the game!

Stop whining and asking for hitman/list

danielletb2008
10-27-2012, 11:55 PM
OMGosh u r such a crybaby... I had 19k then and I have 19k now, ur effort is pointless (and annoying). Like I said, I want others to hit u to get me off your list... Usually I would increase my army not have to worry about it but I'm camping so I'm ganna have to deal.... but trust me when I'm done camping.............. :o

YLL
10-28-2012, 12:58 AM
So, can we have a look at those screen shots?

Elisar
10-28-2012, 05:24 AM
How do I do that. I took a screen shot of the attacks she did Tuesday that ticked me off so much. How do I get that into a post? It doesn't paste and it doesn't show up in attachments.

And after you look at it can you explain how someone who was 5000 less in attack points and 8000 less in defense and whose army consisted of less than 400 trolls can win half their raids when I have 400 high priests, 350 liches and those buildings are surrounded by cannon towers and other defense buildings.

Elisar
10-28-2012, 06:44 AM
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Jhoemel
10-28-2012, 07:16 AM
I think both of you should let it go. Have a truce or something. Say like you do one last round of attacks and raids then stop. You guys are taking this too personally. Can u guys add me so that i can see your bases. My code is in my signature

chimera69
10-28-2012, 07:27 AM
How do I do that. I took a screen shot of the attacks she did Tuesday that ticked me off so much. How do I get that into a post? It doesn't paste and it doesn't show up in attachments.

And after you look at it can you explain how someone who was 5000 less in attack points and 8000 less in defense and whose army consisted of less than 400 trolls can win half their raids when I have 400 high priests, 350 liches and those buildings are surrounded by cannon towers and other defense buildings.

Strictly as an FYI regarding your defense question...

A difference of 5k to 8k in your defense vs anyone's attack is really nothing in this game. By design, there's a very broad range of strengths that can win against each other. I assume, frustrating as it is to all of us, that it's basically a way to bring some degree of semi-equality or parity to players in general. Heck, people have mentioned more than once in this forum that even to win without losing any of your units in battle requires fighting players half your strength or less.

marebear
10-28-2012, 08:32 AM
How do I do that. I took a screen shot of the attacks she did Tuesday that ticked me off so much. How do I get that into a post? It doesn't paste and it doesn't show up in attachments.And after you look at it can you explain how someone who was 5000 less in attack points and 8000 less in defense and whose army consisted of less than 400 trolls can win half their raids when I have 400 high priests, 350 liches and those buildings are surrounded by cannon towers and other defense buildings.This is what they learned from the meet up about skill points. Back on topic The word we got on the Skill points is that they are times a specific un-named multiplier that gets added to all of your final boosted stats - then there is the "random" multiplier added or subtracted after ALL that.For argument's sake: Say your boosted Attack is 50k going up against someone with a boosted defense of 50k. The attacker has say 90 to attack skill points and lets say the defender has a defense skill point accumulation of 110. For our example - lets assume the multiplier is 500 - so ADD 45,000 to the attacker and 55,000 to the defender - so NOW the battle stats are 95k attack against 105k DefenseBUT WAIT: Now there is this TOTALLY RANDOM percent wheel that spins independently for each player - so for our example - lets say the attacker gets a -10% and the defender gets a +25%So for the first battle - the end result is 85,500 attack against 125,125 defense and the defender WINS!On the second battle - the RANDOM spin yields a + 30% to the attacker and a -20% to the defender for a final battle result of 123,500 and the defender ends up with 84,000 and this time the attacker wins.THIS is the way i comprehended what Mark told us and my math is off the top of my head so forgive me if I'm off a little - but you get the point that the Skill points DO matter - but there is this "random" multiplier with each and every attack independently for each player that can totally change the end result.Wheww - now chew on that for a minute and lets see some 5000 character analysis

Dhusagar
10-28-2012, 08:37 AM
This is what they learned from the meet up about skill points. Back on topic The word we got on the Skill points is that they are times a specific un-named multiplier that gets added to all of your final boosted stats - then there is the "random" multiplier added or subtracted after ALL that.For argument's sake: Say your boosted Attack is 50k going up against someone with a boosted defense of 50k. The attacker has say 90 to attack skill points and lets say the defender has a defense skill point accumulation of 110. For our example - lets assume the multiplier is 500 - so ADD 45,000 to the attacker and 55,000 to the defender - so NOW the battle stats are 95k attack against 105k DefenseBUT WAIT: Now there is this TOTALLY RANDOM percent wheel that spins independently for each player - so for our example - lets say the attacker gets a -10% and the defender gets a +25%So for the first battle - the end result is 85,500 attack against 125,125 defense and the defender WINS!On the second battle - the RANDOM spin yields a + 30% to the attacker and a -20% to the defender for a final battle result of 123,500 and the defender ends up with 84,000 and this time the attacker wins.THIS is the way i comprehended what Mark told us and my math is off the top of my head so forgive me if I'm off a little - but you get the point that the Skill points DO matter - but there is this "random" multiplier with each and every attack independently for each player that can totally change the end result.Wheww - now chew on that for a minute and lets see some 5000 character analysis

My analysis = headache! Just gat a boatload more stats that count in a fight against your opponent and hit them hard. Don't complain if they hit you hard - that is part of the game!

Elisar
10-28-2012, 09:03 AM
It's been pretty consistent, princess would win one then lose one, been that way ever since I was able to start fighting off her attacks. Once she moved to raids it has been 50% no matter how much I boost my defense. I'll just level up, buy a couple hundred dragons and maybe then I can level up a manor to level 3. In the meantime I am going to keep hitting the princess until she agrees not to attack or raid anymore or until I lose so many units she starts winning.

I know you are watching this thread, princess. You started this, you can end it. I really don't care.

Tate
10-28-2012, 11:18 AM
"And after you look at it can you explain how someone who was 5000 less in attack points and 8000 less in defense and whose army consisted of less than 400 trolls can win half their raids when I have 400 high priests, 350 liches and those buildings are surrounded by cannon towers and other defense buildings."

Sounds to me like you're more pi**ed about losing to someone weaker than you than anything else, since you mentioned that at least 3 times. You both should get over it call a truce and play the game as it's meant to be played.
And don't forget, she can build the BD, same as you...

bigflan
10-28-2012, 11:22 AM
Keep on fighting until one of your kingdoms fall it's kingdom age guys FIGHT ON

Tate
10-28-2012, 11:47 AM
You tell 'em Flanny boy!

bigflan
10-28-2012, 11:53 AM
You tell 'em Flanny boy! yes keep fighting

Elisar
10-28-2012, 12:13 PM
I only have 9 days of history, this has been going on for months. Yes, I expect her to be going for dragons, that is the only reason I am. I could post more pics but what's the use, I've posted the facts. As I said, raiding and attacking isn't profitable for me, unless someone has buildings that will net at least 6,000 a raid I just lose money and there aren't many at my level. I can fill my vault evry couple of days, why raid for chump change. I'm tired of being a cash cow for the princess, just like a lot of others.

DIrishB
10-29-2012, 04:04 AM
Just a note, to fight a rival and not lose ANY units at all, your attack must be 3x their defense score. So for instance, I currently have 50,500 Atk, if I want to prevent myself from losing any units, I shouldn't attack someone with more than 16,500 Def. Of course at my level it's tough finding stats that low, hence my using News Feed to find people who attacked me months back and have since stopped playing. I've saved a boatload of units this way, though at the cost of not making any money from those attacks when using this approach. Hence most of the time I still attack/raid normally, but only on folks over vault (which are also tough to find).

Winstrol
10-29-2012, 05:47 AM
Just a note, to fight a rival and not lose ANY units at all, your attack must be 3x their defense score. So for instance, I currently have 50,500 Atk, if I want to prevent myself from losing any units, I shouldn't attack someone with more than 16,500 Def. Of course at my level it's tough finding stats that low, hence my using News Feed to find people who attacked me months back and have since stopped playing. I've saved a boatload of units this way, though at the cost of not making any money from those attacks when using this approach. Hence most of the time I still attack/raid normally, but only on folks over vault (which are also tough to find).
It's not correct :P I have over 150k attack and I lost 2 basilisks while attacking guy with 20k stats

ezinap
10-29-2012, 08:05 AM
It's been pretty consistent, princess would win one then lose one, been that way ever since I was able to start fighting off her attacks. Once she moved to raids it has been 50% no matter how much I boost my defense. ...
Interesting.
That could mean that the battle history between two players is a factor in the calculations. The above mentioned 'random' factor might only matter the very first battle. Or it could be become 'locked' in and then alternate.

Well, the more reason for you both to stop revenge attacks.

DIrishB
10-29-2012, 10:46 AM
It's not correct :P I have over 150k attack and I lost 2 basilisks while attacking guy with 20k stats

Did you attack or raid? If you raid I think you always lose at least one unit, but if you attacked the guy with your stats that much higher I can't see why you'd lose any units. I'm speaking from experience. I'm just trying to finish off my Tournament Rounds (on 152...still a ways to go, then 29 Championship Rounds), and I've been attacking two people on my news list. One of them only had like 3,000 Att and Def, the other around 12,000 Att and Def, and since my A/D is 50,500 (and growing everyday), I haven't lost a single unit from TR rounds 110 to 152, which is probably something like 900 battles or thereabouts. I'd also done the same thing earlier on, and got from TR 30 something to TR 104 without losing a unit by attacking a player who'd stopped playing but was on my News list, and they also had around 3,000 A/D. And I doubt I'm lucky enough for this just to be a case of good luck on my part.

Occasionally, as I said, I'll search the Rivals list for people over vault so I can make some money on them, and will lose units in those cases, but it's pretty rare finding people over vault near my level (107), so it doesn't happen often.

But there's definitely evidence to prove my point. If you raided that guy, that would explain your unit losses, if not I have no idea. Maybe the random wheel Marebear was referring to and you just had exceptionally bad luck? I really don't know.

Jeremy2
10-29-2012, 10:48 PM
That's sucks, what a bunch of bullies. I just hit level 92 or else i would hunt them down for ya and raid
away. I hope some lvl 40 guys out there who heard your MSG offer a helping hammer :)

Add me btw....


621-631-646

Franklon
10-30-2012, 06:35 AM
Read the whole thread buddy. Seems like the princess guy is a troll. Even subtly threatening ppl once he completes his camping phase.

asdfg12345
10-30-2012, 10:43 AM
Did you attack or raid? If you raid I think you always lose at least one unit, but if you attacked the guy with your stats that much higher I can't see why you'd lose any units. I'm speaking from experience. I'm just trying to finish off my Tournament Rounds (on 152...still a ways to go, then 29 Championship Rounds), and I've been attacking two people on my news list. One of them only had like 3,000 Att and Def, the other around 12,000 Att and Def, and since my A/D is 50,500 (and growing everyday), I haven't lost a single unit from TR rounds 110 to 152, which is probably something like 900 battles or thereabouts. I'd also done the same thing earlier on, and got from TR 30 something to TR 104 without losing a unit by attacking a player who'd stopped playing but was on my News list, and they also had around 3,000 A/D. And I doubt I'm lucky enough for this just to be a case of good luck on my part.

Occasionally, as I said, I'll search the Rivals list for people over vault so I can make some money on them, and will lose units in those cases, but it's pretty rare finding people over vault near my level (107), so it doesn't happen often.

But there's definitely evidence to prove my point. If you raided that guy, that would explain your unit losses, if not I have no idea. Maybe the random wheel Marebear was referring to and you just had exceptionally bad luck? I really don't know.
thats odd i lose more units when I attack directly.

DIrishB
10-30-2012, 11:45 AM
thats odd i lose more units when I attack directly.

You'll lose units when attacking rivals whose A/D are around yours, even only half yours. As I said, if your Attack is at least 3x their Defense, you shouldn't lose any units. If you raid I believe you lose at least one unit no matter what, though not not positive about that.

John Snow
10-30-2012, 02:12 PM
You'll lose units when attacking rivals whose A/D are around yours, even only half yours. As I said, if your Attack is at least 3x their Defense, you shouldn't lose any units. If you raid I believe you lose at least one unit no matter what, though not not positive about that.

According to CC Mark there is always a chance that you can lose a unit in an attack or raid regardless of the attack/defense differential. The casualty rate factor is never zero.

Hobtuse
10-30-2012, 03:10 PM
@DIrishB: Winstrol is losing units because he is on boosted stats. I am on old stats and when I attack someone with 20k stats, I don't lose any units. Boosted stats does open one up to greater casualties.

Of course, the casualty rate isn't zero but it's just that the differential is so far apart that I never lose any units if I attack someone with less than 1/5 of my stats.

Proprioc3ption
10-31-2012, 12:08 AM
Can there be peace amongst your Kingdoms?
Why not offer a son or daughter for marriage? Is there no possibility to reconcile your differences? What point would there be in continually fighting a pointless battle for brownie points!

Ok... On a more serious side...
He said she said will never get u anywhere, but if you can somehow find it in the two of you to forgive and forget, you can both get on with the game and focus on your individual strategies? Sometimes your enemy can be your greatest ally!

Personally, anyone that I've even attacked that sought revenge and lost, almost all have either sought an alliance or simply let it go. I've had one or two that tried to continue as I'm sure we all have many stories like that.

This is the age of Kingdoms, where some rise and some fall! Lets be honest though, peace will make you stronger in the long run, so fight for glory and honour, build alliances attack at will. But if you stir a sleeping giant and your not willing to submit...your downfall will be your own.

There are two sides to every story... But there is only ever one outcome. If you can come together and forgive that outcome can be good for both. As for the continually aggression and unforgiveness...there will only be death and destruction for both even if there is one winner after the ash falls. That winner will be battered!

The choice is yours and yours alone...we can't fight this battle for you both...but we can (as we are doing now) help you to come to terms with making a RIGHT decision. Good luck!

mitchitized
10-31-2012, 02:43 AM
I have a guy that attacked me once, and when I checked his kingdom his manors, silos and whatnot were all full so I loaded up! He woke up pretty mad at me and retaliated, so I posted an offer on his wall to ally and move on. He decided to continue the attacks, and I look daily to see if I catch him unvaulted or unclaimed manors/silos... Some days he attacks me a lot (I assume he's questing too, or just having one of those days) and some days I return the favor if he hits me repeatedly.

I've asked him on two occasions to ally, and he's politely turned me down. Not sure how to handle this situation, but there's definitely no drama. He's not going after priests OR dragons though, and seems like he's just whacking people without much of a plan. I'd like to help the guy out, but he's more interested in slapping me around. Hrmph. Some people's kids.

Proprioc3ption
10-31-2012, 03:11 AM
@mitchizied
You have done all you can to make things right then. The rest is up to him. I guess if things continue then its become real personal and you'll have to be on your guard. If possible you could ignore him and focus on your own game, but if he's still attacking you and doing damage, we can all understand that you wld want to try to stay one or two steps ahead of him which can be difficult depending on his aggression.

Use events etc to try to get ahead of him if possible. Ally with people of the same level that are stronger than you and let them know about this guy so that maybe they can take the heat off you if they give him a little poke or two.

Looking at your stats, you need to build your A&D big time. I'm not as high as in levels as you but my A&D is 3 times more than yours. Keep getting advice from the guys here on the forum to assist you in developing strategies to work through this. Good luck!

Everson25
10-31-2012, 03:27 AM
I thought I wouldn't get the end of this thread. Marebeer! Please don't come with sweet popcorn again. It's my turn! Salty please!

Hobtuse! I agree with your point. I raid/attack players around 20k or less and normally I don't lose anything. If I attack between 20 or 30k I might lose 1 unit. But I can't complain about it.

Well, to the couple fighting I can say that it's just a game. Yesterday I was checking my base on MW. I had 6m unvaulted and someone attacked me and got 4m. I knew the risks and I knew that I should be collecting more on time. I guess I don't have the same will as at the beginning. Pride is the worse thing. If I would get upset I could do the same thing and go for a fight with no meaning. Anyway, it's up to you guys.

Of course I'm not a saint. Once on KA I had someone who attacked me with no reason and challenge me. That time I was too busy with my BD upgrading and didn't lose my focus. After a couple of months I met the player again. I waited patiently for one of manors and then raided. I guess I could carry on as I was twice stronger but there was no gains or purpose so I stopped.

echus14
10-31-2012, 03:46 AM
Most of the older players here will know that I hardly PvP, but yesterday I was sooooo tempted. Saw this player who oddly for someone with only BD Lvl 1 (possibly in the process of upgrading to Lvl 2) with full Lvl 10 silos and whatnot plus 600,000+ in gold. Had a bit of a personal crisis :D as I could do with that gold to buy extra dragons for the Boss Event, and I could breach his defences. In the end, just sent him a post and offered to ally.

As for the warring couple (to echo Everson), my advice is: kiss, make up, marry each other in real life and then you'll have a reason to fight! :p

mitchitized
10-31-2012, 03:48 AM
@mitchizied
Looking at your stats, you need to build your A&D big time. I'm not as high as in levels as you but my A&D is 3 times more than yours. Keep getting advice from the guys here on the forum to assist you in developing strategies to work through this. Good luck!

I have high priests, and am now starting the slow march to dragons. AFAICT the only real option to increase A&D at this point is to load up on allies, right? I'm a free player, so spending all my gold on weapons and armor at this level don't seem to make a whole lot of sense to me.

EDIT: Sorry my sig was stale. Updated now, but still obviously can be improved upon...

Everson25
10-31-2012, 04:02 AM
Most of the older players here will know that I hardly PvP, but yesterday I was sooooo tempted. Saw this player who oddly for someone with only BD Lvl 1 (possibly in the process of upgrading to Lvl 2) with full Lvl 10 silos and whatnot plus 600,000+ in gold. Had a bit of a personal crisis :D as I could do with that gold to buy extra dragons for the Boss Event, and I could breach his defences. In the end, just sent him a post and offered to ally.

As for the warring couple (to echo Everson), my advice is: kiss, make up, marry each other in real life and then you'll have a reason to fight! :pyou are too kind! I'm not on your level. If I find someone with 600k I straigh away think in my head that's 200k on my account.

Get married in real life?! They will kill each other! I'm kidding.

YLL
10-31-2012, 04:09 AM
Most of the older players here will know that I hardly PvP, but yesterday I was sooooo tempted. Saw this player who oddly for someone with only BD Lvl 1 (possibly in the process of upgrading to Lvl 2) with full Lvl 10 silos and whatnot plus 600,000+ in gold. Had a bit of a personal crisis :D as I could do with that gold to buy extra dragons for the Boss Event, and I could breach his defences. In the end, just sent him a post and offered to ally.

As for the warring couple (to echo Everson), my advice is: kiss, make up, marry each other in real life and then you'll have a reason to fight! :p

Gotta exercise your dragons or they're gonna get restless. Besides, if you've got them, flaunt 'em! ;)

DIrishB
10-31-2012, 05:29 AM
@DIrishB: Winstrol is losing units because he is on boosted stats. I am on old stats and when I attack someone with 20k stats, I don't lose any units. Boosted stats does open one up to greater casualties.

Of course, the casualty rate isn't zero but it's just that the differential is so far apart that I never lose any units if I attack someone with less than 1/5 of my stats.

There you go then. Thanks for clearing that up Hobtuse.

Dexter Morgan
10-31-2012, 06:32 AM
Most of the older players here will know that I hardly PvP, but yesterday I was sooooo tempted. Saw this player who oddly for someone with only BD Lvl 1 (possibly in the process of upgrading to Lvl 2) with full Lvl 10 silos and whatnot plus 600,000+ in gold. Had a bit of a personal crisis :D as I could do with that gold to buy extra dragons for the Boss Event, and I could breach his defences. In the end, just sent him a post and offered to ally.

As for the warring couple (to echo Everson), my advice is: kiss, make up, marry each other in real life and then you'll have a reason to fight! :p

I think I know the player you speak of. Was his manors and lenders around 4 or 5 also and his att/def stats pretty low?