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Paulio
11-06-2012, 05:46 PM
I just got the pop up for the invasion event/mob turf war.
Unfortunately, it just looks like another leaderboard event, only more intricate.

http://i1069.photobucket.com/albums/u473/paulio60/d6a5ed9ad275e8cedd9936c72ef5df14.jpg

http://i1069.photobucket.com/albums/u473/paulio60/cbdd82a6cff0187c09987c5858977744.jpg

Babytway
11-06-2012, 05:53 PM
whose putting up the event log. i got one thug down already lolol....too bad there isn't an official announcement on this to solve any players questions

Coco c
11-06-2012, 05:54 PM
Ya, just got it too. You need to find snitch notes as well as bullets and you need both to open, otherwise it's the same as every other event. Good luck!

Paulio
11-06-2012, 05:56 PM
Found a butt load of snitch notes, but only 1 bullet. "Sorry better luck next time." And what really sucks is that you lose the bullet whether or not you're successful.

dudeman
11-06-2012, 06:02 PM
Bullets are dropping as PvP loot, or we steal them?

Do you lose a snitch note when you choose your fight option regardless of success fail?

Also, cool! A brand new BLNT screen!

:rolleyes:

bigflan
11-06-2012, 06:03 PM
This event looks lame the prizes are not very useful

M00nsh1n3
11-06-2012, 06:08 PM
Defeated one thug, got 500 r too,

bigflan
11-06-2012, 06:08 PM
I killed a thug and got a fire truck with 6/11 stats WHOOPTY DOOOOOOO

iteachem
11-06-2012, 06:13 PM
Bullets are dropping as PvP loot, or we steal them?

Do you lose a snitch note when you choose your fight option regardless of success fail?

Also, cool! A brand new BLNT screen!

:rolleyes:

Both dropped for me with PVP

35 attacks and got 2 notes and 10 bullets

Mikecore
11-06-2012, 06:13 PM
I just killed a thug and i got a henchman...

Dr. Dengus
11-06-2012, 06:16 PM
Bullets are dropping as PvP loot, or we steal them?

Do you lose a snitch note when you choose your fight option regardless of success fail?

Also, cool! A brand new BLNT screen!

:rolleyes:

It appears they drop as PvP loot as opposed to having to steal them from opponents.

iteachem
11-06-2012, 06:18 PM
It appears they drop as PvP loot as opposed to having to steal them from opponents.

I agree...

Dr. Dengus
11-06-2012, 06:23 PM
I agree...

Unless we were both, luckily, attacking players who had already received bullets/snitch notes from PvE. But I doubt that's the case . I didn't pay attention to whether I lost a snitch note from a failed attack though.

Coldjoey
11-06-2012, 06:24 PM
Bullets are dropping as PvP loot, or we steal them?

Do you lose a snitch note when you choose your fight option regardless of success fail?

Also, cool! A brand new BLNT screen!


:rolleyes:
I'm afraid so, you loose bullets and stich note, weather your successful or not (as I was)

Coldjoey
11-06-2012, 06:26 PM
I just killed a thug and i got a henchman...
That's good I have to buy mine for 17 old. Congrats

honeybadger
11-06-2012, 06:33 PM
This event is going to take at least 51 hours to complete assuming every med hit wins and no gold spent and you can attack hourly. I'll be lucky to get through the first 30. This isn't worth it for me. Tapping out.

the_dude
11-06-2012, 06:39 PM
Is anyone getting this event on droid yet?

Canoehead
11-06-2012, 06:39 PM
No modifier for top 25 and gold cost for successful attack and timer reset is up from 15 to 20. No thanks

RijilV
11-06-2012, 06:40 PM
sigh, wow this format is even lamer than the one before.

mxz
11-06-2012, 06:41 PM
Rob tons of laundromats. Got it.

Dangerous Greg
11-06-2012, 06:41 PM
Without a modifier and 20 gold for reset and 100% opening....I'm thinking these prizes are not worth even any gold expenditures.

dudeman
11-06-2012, 06:46 PM
They need to lose the "BLNT" crap. The booby prizes aren't bad enough? Come on!

Lol

Illuminati
11-06-2012, 06:48 PM
So if I'm understanding the event right, you get a chance every hour to perform an attack, which consumes 2 bullets, a snitch note AND either $20,000 or 20 gold. If you're successful, you kill a "thug", which you have to kill 30 of in order to get the first tier reward. Then 15 informants, 5 hitmen and finally 1 boss.

That's 51 successful attacks you have to make in order to get all 4 rewards...all in the span of 4 days 17~ hours.

Sounds to me like it's just like your typical collect "x" items event only they made added additional work just to make an attempt and increased the intervals between rewards. 30 successful hits/30 thug kills just to get the 1st reward? Really??

Dangerous Greg
11-06-2012, 06:52 PM
I have to say the return on investment of time and gold is the worst I've seen of any event so far. I hope players send the message to Gree that this is not going to be an acceptable new standard for event prizes going forward.

Blackstone
11-06-2012, 06:54 PM
Same pig, different lipstick. wtf was the design team thinking?

honeybadger
11-06-2012, 07:02 PM
Be better just buying crates. Even with a vault of gold you gotta source out 3 bullets. 2 bullets for me spent 30 stamina. Gree would have been better served trying to figure out the hackers.

Dr. Dengus
11-06-2012, 07:06 PM
Same pig, different lipstick. wtf was the design team thinking?

Dollar signs? Which prevented them from seeing 20/20 lol.

Tomatoneverdie
11-06-2012, 07:08 PM
I just killed a thug and i got a henchman...

Lol, me too, he has been assigned to one of the Snipers Dens in my hood....

Tomatoneverdie
11-06-2012, 07:25 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but I have to successfully open 30 crates (beating 30 thugs) to receive a prize that's less than a uncommon loot from Boss fight!? Are you serious....

Deluxe
11-06-2012, 07:34 PM
So without even doing resets, 600 gold for a 50/50 item...was the math-savvy employee gone the day they chose this format? Or you could open with cash option and have no guarantee youd even make it thru 30 thugs to land what is still a cra ppy item

Jtstar7439
11-06-2012, 07:37 PM
Ok I'm level 174 with over 500 mafia, wtf do I need with a henchman?? Really?? Does Gree listen to some of the b.s. on these boards and think "oh people want them??"

Canoehead
11-06-2012, 07:43 PM
On leader board, what is time rank and kill rank, and how does one measure progress after the boss (item51) is killed? This event seems so bad on its face, I wonder if there is something missing from the description

dudeman
11-06-2012, 07:47 PM
Ok I'm level 174 with over 500 mafia, wtf do I need with a henchman?? Really?? Does Gree listen to some of the b.s. on these boards and think "oh people want them??"

I would take a henchman over a fail/blnt any day.

PawnXIIX
11-06-2012, 07:47 PM
Lol Dravak is done... xD

He's the only one :p


At least this gives me some time to play through Halo 4 Whoooooo!

Khayman
11-06-2012, 07:50 PM
If the % of open success stands like the old events there will be only bad stuff for non spenders.

30 thugs and 5/11 weapons or so in them...

Jtstar7439
11-06-2012, 07:55 PM
I would take a henchman over a fail/blnt any day.

Well I will take it over the 10k :p

dudeman
11-06-2012, 08:03 PM
0 for 3 so far.

They really are trying to make the game more boring/unrewarding for those who don't spend. Maybe it's a level 200 thing.

marebear
11-06-2012, 08:06 PM
Why is Dravak the only one on the leader board?

Dr. Dengus
11-06-2012, 08:12 PM
Why is Dravak the only one on the leader board?

He's probably the only one who has defeated the boss so far.

Euchred
11-06-2012, 08:12 PM
At least this gives me some time to play through Halo 4 Whoooooo!

It's like we're the same person.

DenZ1
11-06-2012, 08:17 PM
30 to get 1st tier prize??? And there are fails?? CraAp... back to bosses.
Instead of spicing things up they screw it over... Those guys spending fortunes on leader board events anyway... These mob wars is no use to free player and very poor return for medium/light gold spender.... I won't even bother... I'll get to 30 free probably and wait for next whatever...

marebear
11-06-2012, 08:21 PM
He's probably the only one who has defeated the boss so far.13 times? Before it said 4. That makes no sense. This event seems stupid. I like the boss events the best. http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg546/here2andnow3/E1CC64FA-34AB-471D-8857-D4CAE2B92B0F-6888-00000664853B3EB9.jpg

Dr. Dengus
11-06-2012, 08:25 PM
I guess if you're a heavy gold player this event isn't that bad of a deal. If you spend 1,020 gold to defeat the final boss and the preceding 50 enemies, you're most likely going to be in the top 250. This nets you 2 items that would cost, at a bare minimum, ~900 gold if they were part of an LE set. On top of that you have a chance of being in the top 25, plus the 15 Informants and 5 Hitmen trinkets (which probably don't have a major effect on your stats if you're a heavy gold spender though).

Don't understand the "Kill Rank" part of the leaderboard though. Dravak is listed at 13 even though he has killed at least 51 to obtain the Boss' Limo.

Edit: Nevermind, didn't take into account resets. Return on gold is minimal if you do a reset after every kill lol.



13 times? Before it said 4. That makes no sense. This event seems stupid. I like the boss events the best.

My guess is the leaderboard is designed to update every x minutes. So it hasn't registered all of Dravak's kills yet.

marebear
11-06-2012, 08:28 PM
Have you seen the limo? I assumed he was only at 13 out of 30 kills. That's why I wondered where the rest of the leader board was.

dudeman
11-06-2012, 08:30 PM
Maybe The "kill" rank is how many bosses you beat once you get to the boss? Assuming you don't start back at 0/51 after beating the boss.

dispatch_me
11-06-2012, 08:32 PM
Is anyone getting this event on droid yet?

Negatory...haven't gotten it yet on my end.

Dr. Dengus
11-06-2012, 08:33 PM
Yeah too bad Dravak is banned so he can't confirm all of this lol. That's a good point though dudeman. Wonder if the loot is better from killing the boss than grunts and hitmen sniper rifles lol.

@Mare - yeah I just checked Dravak's inventory and he has the limo. So the leaderboard must be for folks who have at least one boss kill?

Giedrius
11-06-2012, 08:36 PM
Maybe we all understanding it wrong, maybe it's not 30thugs later 15 this 10 that and last one boss. It might be common, uncommon, rare thing and number means max you can get. So after 1 kill you might get boss loot or kill 30 and don't complete any bar... It's just speculation. So far 2 fails and 1 thug for me. I won 25k...

Lets take Dravak: it said time leaderboard- 7.5 hours, kills leaderboard- 13 kills. Maybe he in total spend 7.5 on this event until he killed boss, which was his 13th kill in total. If its random maybe he killed 10 thugs, 2 informants and 13th was boss. After boss killed he ended up on both Leaderboards. Maybe lets say Joe killed 28 thugs 4 informants was didn't kill random boss yet so he is not on Leaderboards. Maybe...

Someone said before Dravak on Leaderboards has 4 kills. Maybe he was lucky enough and killed random boss on 4th kill and that triggered leaderboard and from that time he had 9 more random kills and his numbers going up.

Can someone check dravaks inventory and see does he have all drops before boss?

TONYMONTANA86
11-06-2012, 08:40 PM
is this event up for android??????????

Illuminati
11-06-2012, 09:05 PM
I love it when gree releases events with absolutely no explanation! That announcements forum sure does come in handy!

DenZ1
11-06-2012, 09:09 PM
Maybe we all understanding it wrong, maybe it's not 30thugs later 15 this 10 that and last one boss. It might be common, uncommon, rare thing and number means max you can get. So after 1 kill you might get boss loot or kill 30 and don't complete any bar... It's just speculation. So far 2 fails and 1 thug for me. I won 25k...

Lets take Dravak: it said time leaderboard- 7.5 hours, kills leaderboard- 13 kills. Maybe he in total spend 7.5 on this event until he killed boss, which was his 13th kill in total. If its random maybe he killed 10 thugs, 2 informants and 13th was boss. After boss killed he ended up on both Leaderboards. Maybe lets say Joe killed 28 thugs 4 informants was didn't kill random boss yet so he is not on Leaderboards. Maybe...

Someone said before Dravak on Leaderboards has 4 kills. Maybe he was lucky enough and killed random boss on 4th kill and that triggered leaderboard and from that time he had 9 more random kills and his numbers going up.

Can someone check dravaks inventory and see does he have all drops before boss?
That would be nice but info tab says "intervals" explicitly so it is 30/15/5/1... 1020 gold and 3 days unless you don't sleep or reset or want leader board..

AK-47
11-06-2012, 09:17 PM
is this event up for android??????????
Cmon, you know better.... We wont get this event for another few months. Or if we somehow do, we will get it with 2 or 3 days remaining on the timer. Its always the same unfortunately.

SiennaSharpe
11-06-2012, 09:24 PM
Can someone check dravaks inventory and see does he have all drops before boss?

He has them all.

Feng1234
11-06-2012, 09:42 PM
He has them all.

Lol.... GREE what have you done??!!!

chbranch
11-06-2012, 10:00 PM
is this event up for android??????????

I got an update tonight for something......

dudeman
11-06-2012, 10:02 PM
Ok, so here's how I'm (finally?) understanding this.

Every 60 minutes you have a chance to fight a thug, informant, or whatever. This works the same as box events where a fight (snitch note) is just a box you want to open. If you fail, nothing happens and you lose the note plus the bullets you spent trying to fight. If you successfully "open the box" it's counted as a win, you get some mini prize, and you carry on.

So instead of needing X number of items to win the main event prizes you only need successful opens to count towards the main prizes.

I think "kills" refer to the bosses and are the same as event items. You don't start getting "kills" until you've made it to the boss, at which point successful opens are counted as kills on the leaderboard.

Given the lack of information, that's the conclusion I've come to. Please correct me if I'm wrong. :cool:

If all it takes are successful opens to work towards the main event prizes then MAYBE this event style won't be so bad after all. Maybe. We'll see.

Illuminati
11-06-2012, 10:10 PM
Dudeman: that still doesn't change the fact that you'd have to have 52 successful kills for just the first boss.

Elastic Earl
11-06-2012, 10:15 PM
Dudeman: that still doesn't change the fact that you'd have to have 52 successful kills for just the first boss.

it is more. it takes about 15 hits to defeat boss. difference in this event is if you select the gold option your success rate is 100%.

Illuminati
11-06-2012, 10:21 PM
it is more. it takes about 15 hits to defeat boss. difference in this event is if you select the gold option your success rate is 100%.

Wait...what?? It's not single hit kills in intervals til you get to the boss? If each boss alone takes 15 hits, someone would have to practically play nonstop at attempts unless they were willing to spend gold on resets.

Elastic Earl
11-06-2012, 10:23 PM
Wait...what?? It's not single hit kills in intervals til you get to the boss? If each boss alone takes 15 hits, someone would have to practically play nonstop at attempts unless they were willing to spend gold on resets.

up until boss they are single hit kills. the boss is multiple hits.

marebear
11-06-2012, 10:24 PM
I just received a free henchmen! Suckiest prize ever! I do not like this event. On usual box events you get somewhere past 10, maybe to 15 if you are lucky as a free player, getting indestructibles at 5 and 10. Now they want you to get to 30 with gaining extra xp because you have to find notes and bullets, then you still have to pay cash to maybe get a craptastic prize like a free henchmen/ ally in a box. But now if you don't succeed you have to go earn more xp to get more bullets, not just try to open the box/ defeat the mob in another hour. And we get a whole 4 days! I guess I won't be participating in this lame "event" aka auction. Seriously support?? Is this why my ticket from a week ago hasn't been answered? The genius think tank over at Gree were designing a way to make the auction events even more horrible. I hope you don't bring this to your other games and I hope you get rid of it on this game. Epic fail.

(CK) EL
11-06-2012, 10:31 PM
is this event up for android??????????


Cmon, you know better.... We wont get this event for another few months. Or if we somehow do, we will get it with 2 or 3 days remaining on the timer. Its always the same unfortunately.


I got an update tonight for something......

hopefully we WON'T get this event before Christmas and we are going to have boss events or even 10/10 events.
Thank you Gree, keep up thinks the way you know

Seek & destroy
11-06-2012, 10:31 PM
All I'm getting is paper on snitches no bullets to kill them with anyone else got this problem

marebear
11-06-2012, 10:34 PM
You can have mine. I'm no longer using them. Lv 39

Seek & destroy
11-06-2012, 10:37 PM
Me either marebear ill finish the boss & wait for next event

Feng1234
11-06-2012, 10:37 PM
I just received a free henchmen! Suckiest prize ever! I do not like this event. On usual box events you get somewhere past 10, maybe to 15 if you are lucky as a free player, getting indestructibles at 5 and 10. Now they want you to get to 30 with gaining extra xp because you have to find notes and bullets, then you still have to pay cash to maybe get a craptastic prize like a free henchmen/ ally in a box. But now if you don't succeed you have to go earn more xp to get more bullets, not just try to open the box/ defeat the mob in another hour. And we get a whole 4 days! I guess I won't be participating in this lame "event" aka auction. Seriously support?? Is this why my ticket from a week ago hasn't been answered? The genius think tank over at Gree were designing a way to make the auction events even more horrible. I hope you don't bring this to your other games and I hope you get rid of it on this game. Epic fail.

As crap it it may be for us free players, its how GREE can allow gold players to have more fun than free players and give them a chance to distinguish themselves from the plebs. It's a good move tailored quite specifically at gold players who are the people they are ultimately targeting. Gold players are the audience for their business along with those potential ones. Not us plebs who spend $20 every year.

Think about it, we can be all pissed we want to because it won't have a serious impact on them. But what if gold players are fed up with plebs getting all cool and free stuff just as easily? They won't see the point of spending gold as they can have just as much as fun using less money. And that will **** up GREE business model.

I have a feeling this is a sound business decision. It might adjust but probably not a lot.

To be honest, GREE have been fairly generous to us free players.. Free scratchers, nearly 15 items on average for each epic event, some free items for normal events. Also giving us free items for forums participation, mistakes they made (skull crusher, dst issues).

GREE - do what you have to but don't forget us plebs because its us who the gold players ultimately beats up and take the most fun out of!!!

Dr. Dengus
11-06-2012, 10:38 PM
I just received a free henchmen! Suckiest prize ever! I do not like this event. On usual box events you get somewhere past 10, maybe to 15 if you are lucky as a free player, getting indestructibles at 5 and 10. Now they want you to get to 30 with gaining extra xp because you have to find notes and bullets, then you still have to pay cash to maybe get a craptastic prize like a free henchmen/ ally in a box. But now if you don't succeed you have to go earn more xp to get more bullets, not just try to open the box/ defeat the mob in another hour. And we get a whole 4 days! I guess I won't be participating in this lame "event" aka auction. Seriously support?? Is this why my ticket from a week ago hasn't been answered? The genius think tank over at Gree were designing a way to make the auction events even more horrible. I hope you don't bring this to your other games and I hope you get rid of it on this game. Epic fail.

Yeah this isn't a great event at all for free or light gold players. And unfortunately, it looks like invasions will be coming to MW barring any changes.

dudeman
11-06-2012, 10:40 PM
Dudeman: that still doesn't change the fact that you'd have to have 52 successful kills for just the first boss.

Well it would be 51, but apparently the boss requires more hits like a boss event type boss. So it's like a leaderboard event combined with a boss event, and the leader board has a buy in because there's almost no chance in hell that a free player will ever appear on this leaderboard. Even if every "box" was a guaranteed open, without resets and given the ~4 day time limit you would only get a few boss kills at the most. With fails, lucky to even get one boss kill I think, but I guess it depends on open rates and drop rates of notes/bullets.

Elastic Earl
11-06-2012, 10:45 PM
Well it would be 51, but apparently the boss requires more hits like a boss event type boss. So it's like a leaderboard event combined with a boss event, and the leader board has a buy in because there's almost no chance in hell that a free player will ever appear on this leaderboard. Even if every "box" was a guaranteed open, without resets and given the ~4 day time limit you would only get a few boss kills at the most. With fails, lucky to even get one boss kill I think, but I guess it depends on open rates and drop rates of notes/bullets.

Drop rates on notes/bullets appear to be generous in PvP and less so PvE. That is just my experience. First impression is this event heavily favors gold spenders vs. everyone else. Unless people tell me the success rates are better in this event with cash than crate events were. Gold success rate is 100% unlike crate events.

dudeman
11-06-2012, 11:03 PM
I started off 0/3, but now I'm at 3/6. I don't really expect the cash option to get any better than 50%.

Edit:

Gree still needs to make in game cash more useful. Either provide the option to pay more for event cash options to increase chances, or make the next new content the ability to fuse old useless weapons.

RijilV
11-06-2012, 11:40 PM
I started off 0/3, but now I'm at 3/6. I don't really expect the cash option to get any better than 50%.


That's still 60 attempts just to get a 45/49 mele item, you really want to tap on this game every hour for 2 and a half days straight?

The old style lockbox events where you got a game altering item after 10, I'd drop a bit of gold on.
The 20 open newer events where the top N would get a high stats item, I'd shoot for cash only to 10.

These new events? I'm going to completely ignore them.

spectra
11-06-2012, 11:44 PM
This event really sucks
and if you lok closely as how it takes a while to get notes and bullets, to most of the time get the famous "SORRY"

THE PURPOSE OF THIS EVENT IS TO MAKE PLAYERS LEVEL UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For those that are at high level, go for it

I am sitting this one down, it is not worth it to gain 500 XPs to get 2 bullets and 1 note and the loose them in a sorry

good luck to all participating

Elastic Earl
11-06-2012, 11:46 PM
i hear you guys on all this stuff. it is heavily weighted towards their gold spending clients. Those clients pay the bills. What did you expect?

TRAZ
11-06-2012, 11:47 PM
Won't be wasting my time on this event. No point to even spend gold.

PawnXIIX
11-07-2012, 12:08 AM
Gree still needs to make in game cash more useful...

They will be. That's all I can reveal.


Drop rates for the items can be found on my topic here:

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?40003-Am-I-Reading-This-Correctly&highlight=reading+correctly

I cannot derive an exact percentage for the drop rate from the data, however it is a pretty good drop rate because it acts like PVP drops rather than stealing lockboxes from players. It has it's own definition unlike the mechanic of stealing boxes, which means that you can get one even if the player you're attacking has none.

AK-47
11-07-2012, 12:17 AM
hopefully we WON'T get this event before Christmas and we are going to have boss events or even 10/10 events. Thank you Gree, keep up **things** the way you know
I agree 100%! So far all I am reading is that this new style event isn't all that great for a free player like me. I am loving the boss events the most so far because I can get ~17 free items with stats better then RP items. Plus items from one boss event compound for the next boss event and so on. Also the 10/10 events do give me a SMALL chance of getting a nice modifier item. I have gotten to 10/10 in one of those, the Corpse Maker, so there is a chance I can get another lol

CitrineMondeoRSi
11-07-2012, 12:46 AM
I'm no expert but... It seems that PvE generates a higher percentage of notes, with PvP generating a higher percentage of bullets. I'm going to have a half hearted attempt with the 11 notes and 13 bullets that I have garnered do far, but this new format does seem to be a right kick in the proverbials.
NB Can anyone confirm that normal PvE loot is still dropping as well? Having burned 2600ish energy on a known drop site for no return other than event notes, I'm thinking that it might be an idea to leave it alone altogether :(

PawnXIIX
11-07-2012, 12:47 AM
I'm no expert but... It seems that PvE generates a higher percentage of notes, with PvP generating a higher percentage of bullets. I'm going to have a half hearted attempt with the 11 notes and 13 bullets that I have garnered do far, but this new format does seem to be a right kick in the proverbials.
NB Can anyone confirm that normal PvE loot is still dropping as well? Having burned 2600ish energy on a known drop site for no return other than event notes, I'm thinking that it might be an idea to leave it alone altogether :(

What amount of energy are you using for the PvE loot?

EDIT: Wasn't this supposed to be a week long event? Last time I checked, 4 days is a little...less...

dudeman
11-07-2012, 12:55 AM
What amount of energy are you using for the PvE loot?

EDIT: Wasn't this supposed to be a week long event? Last time I checked, 4 days is a little...less...

A Conzio/Gree(d) week has always been 4-6 days.

CitrineMondeoRSi
11-07-2012, 01:31 AM
171 pawn, red cascade @ red light district. No ECBs, just the snitch notes (and one random bullet). To be fair it's far too small a case study to be accurate but it does seem a coincidence that no ECB's have dropped, given their usual rate.

Bala82
11-07-2012, 02:52 AM
Is anyone getting this event on droid yet?

Are you serious -this is a new event only IOS people get it

CitrineMondeoRSi
11-07-2012, 03:29 AM
Nobody seems to have picked up on the fact that once you have notes/bullets, they cannot be stolen. This, in my opinion, is a good thing. Does anyone know if the per success loot for defeating hitmen and informers is any different to that of gang members? If yes, it might be worth the free/light golders persevering through the first 30 to get to better items

KizbotBro
11-07-2012, 03:47 AM
Are you serious -this is a new event only IOS people get it

Thats right, we android users dont deserve to see the event at the same time, becuase of our crimes against Apple.

(CK) EL
11-07-2012, 03:59 AM
Thats right, we android users dont deserve to see the event at the same time, becuase of our crimes against Apple.

for the first time...
it's great to be on android :)

sister morphine
11-07-2012, 04:14 AM
It'd be nice to get past 1 thug! If my record in the box events is anything to go by I might have 7 by the end of this event. Still shaking my head in disbelief at those who've run through all 51 to reach the bosses in a matter of hours - 20 gold for each guaranteed hit and 20 for a refresh means a minimum of 1200 just to do the thugs, for which the reward is an item that might cost 100 or so in the store as a gold item. Truly Gree have managed the feat of polishing a turd and selling it to "rich bullies" Ⓒ Dravak. Enjoy that soggy biscuit whoever comes in at #251 ��

trickyvegas
11-07-2012, 04:21 AM
Nobody seems to have picked up on the fact that once you have notes/bullets, they cannot be stolen. This, in my opinion, is a good thing. Does anyone know if the per success loot for defeating hitmen and informers is any different to that of gang members? If yes, it might be worth the free/light golders persevering through the first 30 to get to better items

I think it is worth a go, my success rate on cash opens has been 5/6 so if that continues I should be onto the informers by tomorrow and each success is bringing me a modest weapon or cash or respect so I consider it worth a click every hour.

LongFingers
11-07-2012, 04:51 AM
I'm still in Epic Boss event....
anyone have the same problem ?

Gambit12
11-07-2012, 05:24 AM
This is complicated, weird, crazy event..!

Jᵘᴵᵉˢ
11-07-2012, 05:45 AM
i haven`t got an info screen about this event on my iphone yet? although by the sounds of things i`m not missing anything.

also what does blnt stand for? cheers :)

dudeman
11-07-2012, 05:50 AM
I think it is worth a go, my success rate on cash opens has been 5/6 so if that continues I should be onto the informers by tomorrow and each success is bringing me a modest weapon or cash or respect so I consider it worth a click every hour.

Don't get your hopes up. 5/6 sounds like a lucky streak, and experience tells me those are much more rare and much shorter lasting than unlucky streaks.

@LongFingers, both events are running simultaneously. Turf war sounds like iOS only, so if you're on android... You're lucky this time.

kaz
11-07-2012, 06:35 AM
I gave it a couple attempts and already got the idea. Like the previous auction events wasn't bad enough...
These events don't worth the time and effort you need to put just to get to the first item. I guess I'll stick to the boss events.

isshi
11-07-2012, 08:10 AM
the hits are as follows: thugs 30, informants 15, hitmen 5, bosses about 10 hits total 60 hits.
then you get on the leader board for every hit you do after the first completion. the 60 hits you just did do not count towards the leader board.

dudeman
11-07-2012, 08:32 AM
the hits are as follows: thugs 30, informants 15, hitmen 5, bosses about 10 hits total 60 hits.
then you get on the leader board for every hit you do after the first completion. the 60 hits you just did do not count towards the leader board.

That's what I thought, but thanks for the "official" clarification Trev.

Sorry I had to put that in quotations. It's just that it isn't technically an official clarification, even though it was provided by someone with first hand experience who is actually on the leader board. CCM takes vacation any time new content is released, so it's as official a response as anyone can expect.

Luciferianism
11-07-2012, 08:37 AM
This event is completely pointless if you don't spend gold ... Do we need 30 successes before we get anything half decent? Never going to happen in the timescale.

Burn
11-07-2012, 09:01 AM
But what if gold players are fed up with plebs getting all cool and free stuff just as easily?

^ This, but maybe without referring to free players as plebs though ;)

Gree need to get their act together, and quickly, the stuff they are selling is junk. Every current Common crate item is worse than every Common that you can freely drop 20 of from Epic event.

The garbage I have seen in this event thus far is also pointless.

Respect and game money are now completely redundant.

When the goods sold for Gold are either rubbish, or don't give sufficient gain over free players, the obvious answer is to stop spending.

I'm going to assume there is a new Gree guy signing off these events, crates and prizes - he is sh!t at his job.

Coldjoey
11-07-2012, 09:02 AM
This event is completely pointless if you don't spend gold ... Do we need 30 successes before we get anything half decent? Never going to happen in the timescale.
No I killed ten thugs without gold and I already got three henchmen a coat and a hitman riffle for each of them 3 and a zcar to take them to a fight. who could ask for more?

dudeman
11-07-2012, 09:09 AM
This event is completely pointless if you don't spend gold ... Do we need 30 successes before we get anything half decent? Never going to happen in the timescale.

So far that appears to be the case. Every "open" is a win until you get to the boss, which requires 10 wins (credit to isshi for sharing this very useful piece of info). Completing turf war "part a" unlocks "part b", which earns you one "win" (event item) for each open box (fight that you win).

Right now it appears to me that this might be some attempt at rewarding the free players who dedicate more time to playing the event than others. Maybe if you can put in 100 attempts you have a shot at the boss prize, time will tell. Of course, if you only make the effort to get in 50 attempts over the course of the event, you have no shot at the top prize. Currently with only 50 attempts you wouldn't expect top prizes in any event, so that much doesn't seem very different.

It does suck though when you do 100 attempts and can see that it got you no further than someone who only made 50 attempts, so I am curious to see what happens. This event style seems better now that I've slept on it, but it does still have potential to be either worst event ever, or equally as tolerable as epic bosses.

DenZ1
11-07-2012, 10:02 AM
So far that appears to be the case. Every "open" is a win until you get to the boss, which requires 10 wins (credit to isshi for sharing this very useful piece of info). Completing turf war "part a" unlocks "part b", which earns you one "win" (event item) for each open box (fight that you win).

Right now it appears to me that this might be some attempt at rewarding the free players who dedicate more time to playing the event than others. Maybe if you can put in 100 attempts you have a shot at the boss prize, time will tell. Of course, if you only make the effort to get in 50 attempts over the course of the event, you have no shot at the top prize. Currently with only 50 attempts you wouldn't expect top prizes in any event, so that much doesn't seem very different.

It does suck though when you do 100 attempts and can see that it got you no further than someone who only made 50 attempts, so I am curious to see what happens. This event style seems better now that I've slept on it, but it does still have potential to be either worst event ever, or equally as tolerable as epic bosses.
Yeah. But wait till they start nerfing open rates down. That would be s garbage for free players pretty quick.

dudeman
11-07-2012, 10:09 AM
Yeah. But wait till they start nerfing open rates down. That would be s garbage for free players pretty quick.

Yeah, I am expecting to see their famous "diminishing rates" start to kick in eventually.

If I were running a business and every time I released something new my customers went "oh great, more crap", I would probably start doing something differently. Not having diminishing rates or failed attempts would be step #1.

LongFingers
11-07-2012, 11:31 AM
My game says that I'm in the Epic Boss Event! (one day to finish...)
Don't worry about me, Ramon Escobar is here, at my side!

Marth
11-07-2012, 11:32 AM
Seems like another Funzio/GREE gold vacuum... pretty much a leaderboard event except more complicated and harder to win.

PawnXIIX
11-07-2012, 11:37 AM
My game says that I'm in the Epic Boss Event! (one day to finish...)
Don't worry about me, Ramon Escobar is here, at my side!

The boss event is still going on, have you updated to CC 2.6?

LongFingers
11-07-2012, 11:47 AM
@ dudeman I'm IOS player too
@ pawnXIIX I'm in the old dimension Of the app .... 2.5 version
All clarified now,
sorry Ramon I must go away...

DenZ1
11-07-2012, 11:49 AM
So far it is a great success :) Leaderboard has a whooping 15 competitors out of 250 :) And the whole day has passed. :)
Makes me think... Gree should do the same :)
Overall, this one is not so bad so far except the hidden fact that boss has to be hit 10 times vs. 1 shown on the board for the event

dudeman
11-07-2012, 12:10 PM
I am getting the feeling that free players will need to do 24 attempts every single day to have a shot at beating one boss.

I hope not, but that's really how it looks right now.

chbranch
11-07-2012, 12:24 PM
I am getting the feeling that free players will need to do 24 attempts every single day to have a shot at beating one boss.

I hope not, but that's really how it looks right now.

I'm on android so I'm just trying to follow how it all works. So every successful open you get a kill? Than after 30 successful opens, you move on to killing 15 informants, then 5 hitmen, and then one boss? Then every kill after that starts at 1 and the leaderboard comes into play? Also you need one snitch note and 2 bullets for a open, and both disappear on a fail or just the bullets?

dudeman
11-07-2012, 12:36 PM
I'm on android so I'm just trying to follow how it all works. So every successful open you get a kill? Than after 30 successful opens, you move on to killing 15 informants, then 5 hitmen, and then one boss? Then every kill after that starts at 1 and the leaderboard comes into play? Also you need one snitch note and 2 bullets for a open, and both disappear on a fail or just the bullets?

That's the gist of it, or at least how I'm understanding it so far. You unlock the kills leaderboard by doing the 60 kills (30 thugs, 15 informants, 5 hitmen, 1 boss [x10 hits]). Every kill from that point counts as +1 on the leader board. Kills 0-60 only earn the four event prizes and unlock the kills board. Since there is also a time board I can only assume how the two boards work together, so I'll keep that to myself for now. Just in case I've got it wrong, I don't want anyone to wrongly read my assumption as fact.

There are still 3 "open" option. Free, cash, gold as usual. Now, however, you need to get bullets as a secondary event currency to open notes. 1 bullet for free option, 2 for cash, 3 for gold. Every open attempt you make costs 1 snitch note + the cost of whatever option you choose.

You "consume" the notes and the bullets every attempt, regardless of whether or not your attempt is successful.

Coldjoey
11-07-2012, 12:39 PM
See its not so complicated. Just different and is fantastic for those under level 100

PawnXIIX
11-07-2012, 03:08 PM
So far I'm on 7/30 thugs and it's almost been a day. The timer is murdering me :/

I would much rater have an incredibly low open rate with no timer... that way I can just keep throwing notes and bullets at it. Maybe it'd force people to spend money on stamina and energy refills for the items that they can't seem to keep a hold of?

Dr. Dengus
11-07-2012, 03:15 PM
Has anyone on the leaderboard, or anyone past the 30 Thugs, mentioned if the loot gets better as you progress through the event?

PawnXIIX
11-07-2012, 03:34 PM
Has anyone on the leaderboard, or anyone past the 30 Thugs, mentioned if the loot gets better as you progress through the event?

I found the percentages for loot rewards, I'm working on getting them together right now

Deluxe
11-07-2012, 03:40 PM
The people on the leaderboard w 50 kills...is that 50 times cycling thru the whole event to kill the boss? So like 51 hits x 20 gold =1020 gold x 50 'kills'= 50k gold for dravak at the top? Or did i miss smthg?

PawnXIIX
11-07-2012, 03:41 PM
There's 3 tiers for this event. This is the top tier rewards (Tier 3):

Thug:

- 25% - $25,000
- 20% - Hitman's Sniper Rifle
- 15% - 500 Respect
- 15% - Racer Z
- 10% - 1 Mafia
- 10% - Deviant Coat
- 5% - Enforcer Jacket

Informant:

- 20% - $25,000
- 18% - 500 Respect
- 15% - Hitman's Sniper Rifle
- 15% - Racer Z
- 12% - 1 Mafia
- 10% - Deviant Coat
- 10% - Enforcer Jacket

Hitman:

- 20% - 500 Respect
- 15% - $25,000
- 15% - 1 Mafia
- 15% - Deviant Coat
- 15% - Enfroce Jacket
- 10% - Hitman's Sniper Rifle
- 10% - Racer Z

Boss:

- 100% - Boss' Limo (implied reward)

Elastic Earl
11-07-2012, 03:45 PM
The people on the leaderboard w 50 kills...is that 50 times cycling thru the whole event to kill the boss? So like 51 hits x 20 gold =1020 gold x 50 'kills'= 50k gold for dravak at the top? Or did i miss smthg?

You only have to beat the boss once. after that the kills are just thug kills.

PawnXIIX
11-07-2012, 03:50 PM
Some other food for thought, when you get a drop from PvP there is a 75% chance it will be a bullet and a 25% chance it'll be a snitch note. I'm not sure what the drop rate is like, that's controlled by the server. When it does come back with a drop, there's a 3/4 chance of it being a bullet and 1/4 chance of it being a snitch note.

Frenchy Q
11-07-2012, 04:07 PM
The people on the leaderboard w 50 kills...is that 50 times cycling thru the whole event to kill the boss? So like 51 hits x 20 gold =1020 gold x 50 'kills'= 50k gold for dravak at the top? Or did i miss smthg?

U left out the all the gold for all the stamina and energy buy to get paper and shells.. Impresive

Deluxe
11-07-2012, 04:43 PM
You only have to beat the boss once. after that the kills are just thug kills.

Thanks much

Deluxe
11-07-2012, 04:44 PM
U left out the all the gold for all the stamina and energy buy to get paper and shells.. Impresive

I was being optimistic about cost...

Kissnight
11-07-2012, 04:54 PM
You only have to beat the boss once. after that the kills are just thug kills.
Seems like u were already in the leader board...
Are u in the top 20 now? If yes, then I guess I know who u r...

And it is also nice to see Dravak there.

MattyPhipps
11-07-2012, 05:08 PM
Why hasn't this started for me yet?

Ballerado
11-07-2012, 05:29 PM
Why hasn't this started for me yet?update your game.

Coldjoey
11-07-2012, 05:34 PM
The drop rate for normal PvP has gone through the roof, I'm getting about four per 10 wins plus the drops for the invasions.

Coldjoey
11-07-2012, 05:36 PM
And it is also nice to see Dravak there.
Hope he stays top. But I thought he stopped playing and gave his game away?

Dr. Dengus
11-07-2012, 05:50 PM
There's 3 tiers for this event. This is the top tier rewards (Tier 3):

Thug:

- 25% - $25,000
- 20% - Hitman's Sniper Rifle
- 15% - 500 Respect
- 15% - Racer Z
- 10% - 1 Mafia
- 10% - Deviant Coat
- 5% - Enforcer Jacket

Informant:

- 20% - $25,000
- 18% - 500 Respect
- 15% - Hitman's Sniper Rifle
- 15% - Racer Z
- 12% - 1 Mafia
- 10% - Deviant Coat
- 10% - Enforcer Jacket

Hitman:

- 20% - 500 Respect
- 15% - $25,000
- 15% - 1 Mafia
- 15% - Deviant Coat
- 15% - Enfroce Jacket
- 10% - Hitman's Sniper Rifle
- 10% - Racer Z

Boss:

- 100% - Boss' Limo (implied reward)

Awesome, thanks for that Pawn. I received an Enforcer Jacket earlier, must be one lucky S.O.B lol


You only have to beat the boss once. after that the kills are just thug kills.

Your name always reminds me of ToeJam and Earl for some reason.

MattyPhipps
11-07-2012, 06:05 PM
update your game.

I did think of this just after I posted lol *facepalm*

Dipstik
11-07-2012, 08:14 PM
What's different for people under level 100?

nopenopenope
11-07-2012, 11:19 PM
What's different for people under level 100?Less henchmen.

Nicky the Nose
11-07-2012, 11:36 PM
I have to say the return on investment of time and gold is the worst I've seen of any event so far. I hope players send the message to Gree that this is not going to be an acceptable new standard for event prizes going forward.

I agree this is a good looking screen but bad payout, and high failure rate. I won't be participating again

CitrineMondeoRSi
11-08-2012, 12:04 AM
Thanks for the list Pawn, excellent work.
As an aside, I'm currently in an unlucky streak or they've tightened the screw on PvP drops... 20 successful fights and I've gained a single snitch note with no bullets. Close down, post on forum, restart...
Edit: Restart worked, 4n/12b from next 31 stamina :)

NTM
11-08-2012, 07:49 AM
Why hasn't this started for me yet?

same no event for me.. i laught when some players say ; update ur game...

they think we are retarted...

anyway 2 day's for me on Android and ??? NO EVENT.

my game is updated and i have reboot maybe 100 time, result = no event.

maybe only for IOS users ?? i got it on Iphone but not on android....

f;KK....

DenZ1
11-08-2012, 08:40 AM
same no event for me.. i laught when some players say ; update ur game...

they think we are retarted...

anyway 2 day's for me on Android and ??? NO EVENT.

my game is updated and i have reboot maybe 100 time, result = no event.

maybe only for IOS users ?? i got it on Iphone but not on android....

f;KK....

And you just figured it out? ...um.. iOS only

CitrineMondeoRSi
11-08-2012, 09:38 AM
Just under halfway through, I'm warming to it. I can see why it's an absolute shambles to the HL guys but at mid range, all the weapon drops are adding to my stats (although not a massive amount) and if things were to stay on track, I'd be on course for around 50 defeats so would just about get to the boss - it's very much a shame that I'm working tomorrow, Saturday and Sunday though, that'll slow me down a bit :( ... I genuinely think it possible for a free player to beat the boss with this one. Maybe not me, but it's perfectly feasible for someone with the whole weekend to play with... Good luck to all that have soldiered on regardless :)

Illuminati
11-08-2012, 02:12 PM
Yeah, I am expecting to see their famous "diminishing rates" start to kick in eventually.

If I were running a business and every time I released something new my customers went "oh great, more crap", I would probably start doing something differently. Not having diminishing rates or failed attempts would be step #1.

You called it Dudeman. I've been at this event from the start and currently have 20 thug kills so far with less than 3 days left in the event. Interestingly enough, once I hit the 20 thug kills mark, my last 4 attempts in a row (with cash opens) have been fails. At this rate, I think being able to get the next 10 thug kills and get through the next interval with 15 informants before the event ends would be stretching it. There's absolutely no way anyone could possibly get to the boss kill or even compete for the top 25/250 without expending signficant amounts of gold.

Illuminati
11-08-2012, 03:23 PM
Edit: Make that 5 fails in a row since I hit 20 thugs...wtf

PawnXIIX
11-08-2012, 03:38 PM
I'm sitting at 16, i've been struggling to get past 15 here, i'm 2 for my last 6 attacks.

Dr. Dengus
11-08-2012, 04:25 PM
Anyone having trouble collecting bullets? I just did 30 PvP attacks and not a single bullet or note. Guess I'll just chalk it up to bad luck ...

Daniel2115
11-08-2012, 05:17 PM
Anyone having trouble collecting bullets? I just did 30 PvP attacks and not a single bullet or note. Guess I'll just chalk it up to bad luck ...


I was just coming to post the same thing. I've attacked over 70 times and not a single bullet

dudeman
11-08-2012, 05:28 PM
http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t440/ShredderBoris/e8f744edfac48c80832edc52a9894af5.jpg

Dravak
11-08-2012, 05:34 PM
ok fine , this is the cheapest event ever for any goldspender , if people are this dumb to boycot it at start ...
Then they deserve the title idiots for life !

Game is nothing but math , doesn't take. genius to figure it out , if people cannot even do simple 1+1 maths.
Don't act so high and mighty .

It is all that this game just numbers and statistics , gold versus stats cost.
Number of gold needed to get the stats , all the rest is just human bollocks .

What else is new , 61 paper needed 183 bullets needed , and 40 gold each ... to get onto the timetable garantee to get you 2 items .

Illuminati
11-08-2012, 05:36 PM
Please tell me English isn't your first language...

Dravak
11-08-2012, 05:42 PM
Please tell me English isn't your first language...

please tell me you are not so unintelligent in life , see no fool language :p
But I guess you are so unintelligent and a devolution of a life , if you can't even solve simple puzzle .
Why are you wondering about meaning of life ..

pucksinnet
11-08-2012, 09:13 PM
I also am not particularly thrilled by this event...I learner early on yo level at least relatively slowly in order to upgrade hood to buy gear and stay competitive. This event to me seems like both a gold sink AND level booster. The larger prides are nice but not worth the exp gain and gold cost... I think each player needs to evaluate for their personal in game style and goals.. I can see how a player over 125 or so there would be nothing to lose doing al cash optoons

Nicky the Nose
11-08-2012, 09:19 PM
That's still 60 attempts just to get a 45/49 mele item, you really want to tap on this game every hour for 2 and a half days straight?

The old style lockbox events where you got a game altering item after 10, I'd drop a bit of gold on.
The 20 open newer events where the top N would get a high stats item, I'd shoot for cash only to 10.


These new events? I'm going to completely ignore them.

Agreed, as time goes by things get worse, much worse

Jian Carlo
11-09-2012, 01:05 AM
ok fine , this is the cheapest event ever for any goldspender , if people are this dumb to boycot it at start ...
Then they deserve the title idiots for life !

Game is nothing but math , doesn't take. genius to figure it out , if people cannot even do simple 1+1 maths.
Don't act so high and mighty .

It is all that this game just numbers and statistics , gold versus stats cost.
Number of gold needed to get the stats , all the rest is just human bollocks .

What else is new , 61 paper needed 183 bullets needed , and 40 gold each ... to get onto the timetable garantee to get you 2 items .

Dravak, I am the first to admit I'm no genius and it takes me sometime to work things out. What your saying is you spend 2440 gold to get onto the timetable which gets you 2 items, what items? Top 250 and top 25 aren't a guarantee, once you pass the 1st boss.

Just seems to my simple mind a lot of gold just to try for the top 250.
By the way amazing time to complete the 1st boss and welcome back by the way.

dudeman
11-09-2012, 01:22 AM
Dravak, I am the first to admit I'm no genius and it takes me sometime to work things out. What your saying is you spend 2440 gold to get onto the timetable which gets you 2 items, what items? Top 250 and top 25 aren't a guarantee, once you pass the 1st boss.

Just seems to my simple mind a lot of gold just to try for the top 250.
By the way amazing time to complete the 1st boss and welcome back by the way.

The time table is fastest completion. If you're one of the first 25/250 players to complete a boss how are you not guaranteed a top 25/250 time prize? The kills board has different prizes that you don't see until you unlock the kills board.

I don't know what's up with the time board though. We only get to see the top 25? We get to see 250 but there haven't been that many players to finish yet? That's a dirty trick if we never get to know when the last top 250 time prize has been claimed.

Gambit12
11-09-2012, 05:32 AM
Where's the freakin' bullets at..! i haven't found one since last night. This is so ridiculous event..!

Dravak
11-09-2012, 06:32 AM
Dravak, I am the first to admit I'm no genius and it takes me sometime to work things out. What your saying is you spend 2440 gold to get onto the timetable which gets you 2 items, what items? Top 250 and top 25 aren't a guarantee, once you pass the 1st boss.

Just seems to my simple mind a lot of gold just to try for the top 250.
By the way amazing time to complete the 1st boss and welcome back by the way.

Time table is fixed , so the first 25 people who finish it first , get those 2 rewards , the next 225 people get the shotgun .
Why did they fix time table , cause they wanted people to waste money on stamina + energy refills .

Now the second table is the bidding war , same as ladder event , those 2 prizes are never fixed .
The 25 other people can screw the numbers into the infinite .

So basically you pay around 3k-3,5 k for 2000 stats garanteed in this event .
That is cheap , considering 3-3,5 k buys you usually only 900-1200 stats .
They will fine tune again , and rip us off in the future , but for now people should learn to do maths.
especially each new event , if you want to know how it works , toss 1-2 vaults at it .

Sorry I am going through withdrawals , but once the gold is gone , probaly will stop ...
Just new events are like puzzles to me , to be solved asap . :)

DenZ1
11-09-2012, 06:42 AM
Time table is fixed , so the first 25 people who finish it first , get those 2 rewards , the next 225 people get the shotgun .
Why did they fix time table , cause they wanted people to waste money on stamina + energy refills .

Now the second table is the bidding war , same as ladder event , those 2 prizes are never fixed .
The 25 other people can screw the numbers into the infinite .

So basically you pay around 3k-3,5 k for 2000 stats garanteed in this event .
That is cheap , considering 3-3,5 k buys you usually only 900-1200 stats .
They will fine tune again , and rip us off in the future , but for now people should learn to do maths.
especially each new event , if you want to know how it works , toss 1-2 vaults at it .

Sorry I am going through withdrawals , but once the gold is gone , probaly will stop ...
Just new events are like puzzles to me , to be solved asap . :)
Thanks for info man. What I don't get us how the f.. are we suppose to know if we gonna hit top 250 or not if you can't see it? Wtf Gree?

DenZ1
11-09-2012, 06:51 AM
Thanks for info man. What I don't get us how the f.. are we suppose to know if we gonna hit top 250 or not if you can't see it? Wtf Gree?
Actually with 3.5k gold in a boss event you can get way better stats increase then 1000.

Dravak
11-09-2012, 07:44 AM
Actually with 3.5k gold in a boss event you can get way better stats increase then 1000.

For me yes , boss event is the cheapest , even without toilet paper .
But for people with 100k stats , boss event comes out more expensive ,
Boss events is tied to your stats , the cost ... but in general epic boss event is to help the free players and established players .
In getting free stats , that is needed with the population shift to heavy-medium goldspenders .

The gold value I said is tied to limited edition items that are fixed value , 300-340 at 900-1000 gold a piece , crates can get you much more stats , but they are a gamble ,
This event was almost a sure thing , especially since so little people participating .
Infact was suprised how long it took people to show up on the time ladder .

Considering most of people won pvp 10 awards , sorry free players and gold players are equal in this event , in working there fingers off , pressing buttons ;) for gold spenders.
Free players have to go trough 30 hours of grind atleast .. before getting good stuff .

dudeman
11-09-2012, 08:01 AM
30 hours grind before getting good stuff? What a joke.

The 30/30 prize is nothing spectacular, and it takes closer to 40 attempts (not hours) to get it. If you want to talk about how long of a grind it takes a free player to get anything good you should try it yourself. The first decent prize is the grenade for 15/15 informants, and it will take probably closer to 60+ attempts just for that. You need to sleep and do other stuff, so that's much closer to 72 hours grind for one decent prize.

Ragmondino
11-09-2012, 08:10 AM
Why is Lupo on the leaderboard 4 times?

vitus79
11-09-2012, 08:16 AM
Why is Lupo on the leaderboard 4 times?

must be fullmoon tonight.

Dravak
11-09-2012, 08:17 AM
30 hours grind before getting good stuff? What a joke.

The 30/30 prize is nothing spectacular, and it takes closer to 40 attempts (not hours) to get it. If you want to talk about how long of a grind it takes a free player to get anything good you should try it yourself. The first decent prize is the grenade for 15/15 informants, and it will take probably closer to 60+ attempts just for that. You need to sleep and do other stuff, so that's much closer to 72 hours grind for one decent prize.

That is your problem isn't it ? so basically either grind it out or sit it out ..
Always choices , so you want free stuff , that other free players cannot get ,
Here is the answer , you grind it out , was basic lessons 101 in mmo ...

So what do you want dudeman as a free player ?

Gold players have to click like mad aside from donating ! ...
Nobody stops people from being gold players !

some people always moan , if it is too easy , if it is too hard , sorry next events will say nothing again.
People can try to figure it out without spending gold , and come to a silly conclusion again .

Lupo
11-09-2012, 08:19 AM
Why is Lupo on the leaderboard 4 times?

Cuz I can....:p

Dhusagar
11-09-2012, 08:22 AM
Why is Lupo on the leaderboard 4 times?

Because wolves come in litters

dudeman
11-09-2012, 08:54 AM
That is your problem isn't it ? so basically either grind it out or sit it out ..
Always choices , so you want free stuff , that other free players cannot get ,
Here is the answer , you grind it out , was basic lessons 101 in mmo ...

So what do you want dudeman as a free player ?

Gold players have to click like mad aside from donating ! ...
Nobody stops people from being gold players !

some people always moan , if it is too easy , if it is too hard , sorry next events will say nothing again.
People can try to figure it out without spending gold , and come to a silly conclusion again .

You spend too much gold to have any idea what it's like to be a free player in this game at this point in time. And all I did was correct you that free players shouldn't expect F all after only 30 "hours" grind. That's delusional if you think 30 hours is all it takes, and the prize is nothing special. You of all people should know that when you get to 90k, items that are below 50/50 are average at best.

Back on topic though, since I wasn't making a statement about the prizes. The only thing free players have to spend is time. The way this event is working right now, even at 24 attempts per day for every day of the event, there's only a very small chance, if there's any chance at all, that anyone could earn the boss prize for free in the time allowed.

Is that what you call a fair chance? Someone who wants to grind 24/7 trying to get the boss prize is more likely to be disappointed and not win than they are to be rewarded for spending so much time playing the game. Someone who spends 24/7 in game deserves the boss prize, IMO, because they probably have nothing special going for them outside the game.

I can't do 24 attempts every day and neither can most people, so that lowers the chance of success even further. It's not like most free players will get all the prizes, some might not even get one prize. It makes no sense that even the most dedicated players can pretty much expect to be disappointed.

Dravak
11-09-2012, 09:01 AM
So dudeman you say the 20 ladder event was beter , with the crap open rate ?
Where people where having problems to even get 10 ..
Check the data of the last event , how many hours people had to invest .

Yes this event in the end , just like all other event , except Epic Boss .
Will be gold crap , don't think I do not understand it .

The difference this event and other events , is that people can control what they want to do .
Gold or Gamble , gold is 100% , gamble is again up to Gree .
So unlike crates ladder events even gold was gambling .

Sorry stop seeing green with envy , I do understand there is no competition left anymore for free players in the shark tank ... but then again free players in the shark tank , do not care much anymore.
They think there time invested in the game + tapjoy is good enough .. they just dream all gold spenders will be gone from the game .

but all goldspenders leaving , means dead game simple as that !
They will just shut it down :p time invested into games no longer mean anything .
And they have learned to just , trick and play envious people , cause the people want it that way .

dudeman
11-09-2012, 09:14 AM
Lol. You wish I was green with envy.

Everything I said seems lost in translation, so I'm out.

trickyvegas
11-09-2012, 09:19 AM
I wouldn't describe pressing a button once an hour "grind". At least I don't have to worry about the world exploding if I don't like those poor chaps in Lost.

Illuminati
11-09-2012, 09:39 AM
lol @ people thinking anyone should be envious of them for spending tons of real money on a mobile game.

Dangerous Greg
11-09-2012, 09:42 AM
LOL, You were dangerous enough when there was only one of you!


Cuz I can....:p

Deluxe
11-09-2012, 09:51 AM
...free players and gold players are equal in this event...

Im amazed that someone would say this...out loud...on a forum...and believe it...

Lupo
11-09-2012, 09:55 AM
LOL, You were dangerous enough when there was only one of you!

Thank you Sir,coming from you this is a huge compliment.

iteachem
11-09-2012, 11:04 AM
Why is Lupo on the leaderboard 4 times?

Because Wolves run in packs

Dr. Dengus
11-09-2012, 11:06 AM
Do they not show the cutoff for the 250 spot until 250 people qualify or something?

DenZ1
11-09-2012, 11:41 AM
Do they not show the cutoff for the 250 spot until 250 people qualify or something?
That's was exactly my question.. How the help are we suppose to know? What were they thinking?

Jian Carlo
11-09-2012, 12:05 PM
Thank you all for being so helpfull, but where at the start of the event did it say the fastest there wins a prize? This is why Dravak I could not understand what was happening.
I ....... Must have missed something again

Dr. Dengus
11-09-2012, 12:23 PM
That's was exactly my question.. How the help are we suppose to know? What were they thinking?

Right? Maybe once you defeat the boss you will get a message saying "You are in the top 250" or "You are x kills away from the top 250"?


Thank you all for being so helpfull, but where at the start of the event did it say the fastest there wins a prize? This is why Dravak I could not understand what was happening.
I ....... Must have missed something again

I guess it was just implied with the Time Rank leaderboard. So if you are in the top 25 for both Kills and Time, you are guaranteed the 4 different leaderboard prizes.

DenZ1
11-09-2012, 12:30 PM
Right? Maybe once you defeat the boss you will get a message saying "You are in the top 250" or "You are x kills away from the top 250"?



I guess it was just implied with the Time Rank leaderboard. So if you are in the top 25 for both Kills and Time, you are guaranteed the 4 different leaderboard prizes.

Ha.. its already would be too late for that. I need to know if I have a chance to hit it before I start shelling gold on resets. This won't help.

Deluxe
11-09-2012, 12:32 PM
Gree you guys suck at doing your job

dudeman
11-09-2012, 12:33 PM
Gree you guys suck

Fixed.

:p:p

Dr. Dengus
11-09-2012, 12:37 PM
Ha.. its already would be too late for that. I need to know if I have a chance to hit it before I start shelling gold on resets. This won't help.

Ahh, yeah that sucks. GREE losing potential gold purchases cause they couldn't program the leaderboard correctly :p

Deluxe
11-09-2012, 12:51 PM
Fixed.

:p:p

My 40+ pvp victories w/o a single drop would tend to disagree with that...

PawnXIIX
11-09-2012, 12:54 PM
My 40+ pvp victories w/o a single drop would tend to disagree with that...

'Fixed.' was referring to him fixing the previous statement

dudeman
11-09-2012, 12:59 PM
'Fixed.' was referring to him fixing the previous statement

All true.


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Jian Carlo
11-09-2012, 01:08 PM
[QUOTE=Dr. Dengus;480623
I guess it was just implied with the Time Rank leaderboard. So if you are in the top 25 for both Kills and Time, you are guaranteed the 4 different leaderboard prizes.[/QUOTE

But it didn't "imply" that's why I don't understand how people was so quick off the mark..... Unless they had advance warning.

Deluxe
11-09-2012, 01:35 PM
All true.


.

Im a silly billy! I thought you were talking about the issue!

Deluxe
11-09-2012, 01:36 PM
[QUOTE=Dr. Dengus;480623
I guess it was just implied with the Time Rank leaderboard. So if you are in the top 25 for both Kills and Time, you are guaranteed the 4 different leaderboard prizes.[/QUOTE

But it didn't "imply" that's why I don't understand how people was so quick off the mark..... Unless they had advance warning.

They were quick off the mark because they are massive gold spenders/users and didnt hesitate to throw copious amounts of gold at an event they knew nothing about...

Jian Carlo
11-09-2012, 01:41 PM
[QUOTE=Jian Carlo;480670]

They were quick off the mark because they are massive gold spenders/users and didnt hesitate to throw copious amounts of gold at an event they knew nothing about...

I agree but just don't understand why spend real money on something that wasn't properly explained as to the rules and prizes, .......

wupuck
11-09-2012, 01:42 PM
Im amazed that someone would say this...out loud...on a forum...and believe it...

With this bug yes! because NOBODY can complete the event. except only those who had enough bullets saved up.

Deluxe
11-09-2012, 01:47 PM
[QUOTE=Deluxe;480719]

I agree but just don't understand why spend real money on something that wasn't properly explained as to the rules and prizes, .......

These are the folks who spend $2000 real life money (if you dont consider bonus program but still...) for the #1 item...you and i werent programmed to understand that

Jian Carlo
11-09-2012, 01:58 PM
[QUOTE=Jian Carlo;480726]

These are the folks who spend $2000 real life money (if you dont consider bonus program but still...) for the #1 item...you and i werent programmed to understand that

I have a nice drunkered smile on my face reading your reply, you are so correct

Nicky the Nose
11-09-2012, 02:30 PM
i haven`t got an info screen about this event on my iphone yet? although by the sounds of things i`m not missing anything.

also what does blnt stand for? cheers :)

You need up update your CC version in App store. BLNT means better luck next time

banaan
11-09-2012, 02:36 PM
All in All this kind of events aren't worth the time for non-gold buying players! Crappy prices and a dodgy system

Shizzy
11-09-2012, 03:53 PM
My apologies if this has already been discussed, but is this event available for android players? I believe I am running on the most current version. Doesn't sound like I am missing much...

Dravak
11-09-2012, 04:07 PM
[QUOTE=Jian Carlo;480726]

These are the folks who spend $2000 real life money (if you dont consider bonus program but still...) for the #1 item...you and i werent programmed to understand that

Maybe I should it put it this way i spent freaking 200 getting wasted on total strangers tonight lmao.
Pub owner was even giving me the looks to stop it , I said simply put , you happy , they happy , me happy cause I need to get wasted and spent money !

So what, if I don't have the money , I wouldn't do it .. same applies for me in this bloody game .
That I am doing it cause I can , and at the same time do something good with it ,
No I don't do it for the ego , I am just curious person , who likes to play along with people .
Till I had enough :p then it is like asta la vista baby ;) , but I do know why I spent the money .
not for my own reason , this game is like toilet paper a luxury , you flush it down the toilet ...

Wait since 1985 cooperations have decided to make TV etc instead of lasting 10 years or a semi lifetime , only last 5 years max , where are the people who say WTF you are cheating me with the product :p ...seriously we are consumption society , if nobody consumes , there aint jobs enough .

honeybadger
11-09-2012, 04:42 PM
[QUOTE=Dravak;480934][QUOTE=Deluxe;480734]

Maybe I should it put it this way i spent freaking 200 getting wasted on total strangers tonight lmao.
Pub owner was even giving me the looks to stop it , I said simply put , you happy , they happy , me happy cause I need to get wasted and spent money !

....this game is like toilet paper a luxury , you flush it down the toilet ...

QUOTE]

Pub spending is legitimate, I'd drink with you. The stinkeye from the owner is also understandable as he's liable for the patrons. Including you! He may have also been concerned for your safety. Some people go looking for a fight and you're throwing around cash could have been viewed as something other than generosity. The pub owners generally know their patrons. If you're getting flashing cash you can become a target.

If you're knowingly flushing money down the toilet that's your choice and I have no problems with it but when people complain or call you an idiot you need to be able to see it from their side as well.

I would like to think that you're a generous guy and hope that any in game cash flushing is also matched with some out of game charitble donations. I've passed on the gold purchases for last few months and started kicking money towards Movember and the Salvation Army for Rememberance Day a couple others along the way including strippers.

Cheers

Dravak
11-10-2012, 03:43 AM
here something that reminds me of the world today ;)

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg503/Drake_Hound/ba521fdcef305140730664ec174c4a88_zps78086363.jpg

West London is ours
11-10-2012, 03:49 AM
I agree but just don't understand why spend real money on something that wasn't properly explained as to the rules and prizes, .......

Why are you talking to yourself your worse than dravak?

West London is ours
11-10-2012, 03:50 AM
[QUOTE=Deluxe;480734]

Maybe I should it put it this way i spent freaking 200 getting wasted on total strangers tonight lmao.
Pub owner was even giving me the looks to stop it , I said simply put , you happy , they happy , me happy cause I need to get wasted and spent money !

So what, if I don't have the money , I wouldn't do it .. same applies for me in this bloody game .
That I am doing it cause I can , and at the same time do something good with it ,
No I don't do it for the ego , I am just curious person , who likes to play along with people .
Till I had enough :p then it is like asta la vista baby ;) , but I do know why I spent the money .
not for my own reason , this game is like toilet paper a luxury , you flush it down the toilet ...

Wait since 1985 cooperations have decided to make TV etc instead of lasting 10 years or a semi lifetime , only last 5 years max , where are the people who say WTF you are cheating me with the product :p ...seriously we are consumption society , if nobody consumes , there aint jobs enough .

What did mummy tell you about telling lies kboy

Dravak
11-10-2012, 03:58 AM
[QUOTE=Dravak;480934]

What did mummy tell you about telling lies kboy


good to know you are eating yourself up over 2k lmao , if you can't even recognise the picture do visit London more properly ... There is a Starbucks closeby , so you can visit all those free places , maybe I should have made a picture of somebody that reminded me of you .

No it ain't pretty , but then again I would be disgracing the person , cause nobody can be as worthless as you lol
banned 3 times got taken 2k , and still keep coming back ?

I wonder who got no self-esteem in life ?

West London is ours
11-10-2012, 04:05 AM
[QUOTE=West London is ours;481406]


good to know you are eating yourself up over 2k lmao , if you can't even recognise the picture do visit London more properly ... There is a Starbucks closeby , so you can visit all those free places , maybe I should have made a picture of somebody that reminded me of you .

No it ain't pretty , but then again I would be disgracing the person , cause nobody can be as worthless as you lol
banned 3 times got taken 2k , and still keep coming back ?

I wonder who got no self-esteem in life ?

Dravak, back up your mouth and stop being a keyboard warrior. You said you was coming over here that's great, you name the venue and time then let's see if you can back that big mouth of yours up

Dravak
11-10-2012, 04:06 AM
[QUOTE=Dravak;481407]

Dravak, back up you mouth and stop being a keyboard warrior. You said you coming over here that's great, you name the venue and let's see if you can back that big mouth of yours end.

sure got a day off tomorrow , how about the place you should know , find somebody who like to smoke .
or how about your famous place in canary warf , you should know the place , a drink to sit there cost a lot .
so go sit there make a nice picture will show up ;) .

West London is ours
11-10-2012, 04:13 AM
[QUOTE=West London is ours;481409]

sure got a day off tomorrow , how about the place you should know , find somebody who like to smoke .
or how about your famous place in canary warf , you should know the place , a drink to sit there cost a lot .
so go sit there make a nice picture will show up ;) .

Your a bottle job dravak, when you decide to grow a pair give us a shout and ill make your beatdown happen.

Dravak
11-10-2012, 04:17 AM
[QUOTE=Dravak;481410]

Your a bottle job dravak, when you decide to grow a pair give us a shout and ill make you beatdown happen.

the louder the bark the more worthless the person , already said the venue , so go there make a picture lovely view only cost you 100 , if you like to pretend to be so well established in canary warf.

If you are living on the giro plum , then go to the other place it is free for the public ...

but then again people who talk in "us" already have no balls , all bark and no bites .
So get lost loser.

Another 14 year old pretending to be such big shot lmao .. No self esteem don't even know how the world works.

West London is ours
11-10-2012, 04:22 AM
[QUOTE=West London is ours;481416]

the louder the bark the more worthless the person , already said the venue , so go there make a picture lovely view only cost you 100 , if you like to pretend to be so well established in canary warf.

If you are living on the giro plum , then go to the other place it is free for the public ...

but then again people who talk in "us" already have no balls , all bark and no bites .
So get lost loser.

Another 14 year old pretending to be such big shot lmao .. No self esteem don't even know how the world works.

Dravak you Mong are you still talking? Go take your meds little man and leave the real business to us adults.

Next.....

Dravak
11-10-2012, 04:26 AM
[QUOTE=Dravak;481418]

Dravak you Mong are you still talking? Go take your meds little man and leave the real business to us adults.

Next.....

lmao a adult you ? Lmao adult know where they are not wanted , and leave , you other hand can't even afford the medicine.
ah this forum is your free therapy session , I see , and all that yelling about others .
simply reflects all about you MUG , sadly king of the mug has been taken by Dipstick ...
lmao

Dhusagar
11-10-2012, 04:37 AM
[QUOTE=West London is ours;481423]

lmao a adult you ? Lmao adult know where they are not wanted , and leave , you other hand can't even afford the medicine.
ah this forum is your free therapy session , I see , and all that yelling about others .
simply reflects all about you MUG , sadly king of the mug has been taken by Dipstick ...
lmao

Dravak - he only responds to you because he has no friends of his own - not surprising, because QPR only have 5 fans in total!

West London is ours
11-10-2012, 04:39 AM
[QUOTE=West London is ours;481423]

lmao a adult you ? Lmao adult know where they are not wanted , and leave , you other hand can't even afford the medicine.
ah this forum is your free therapy session , I see , and all that yelling about others .
simply reflects all about you MUG , sadly king of the mug has been taken by Dipstick ...
lmao

I have to run every post of yours through mongtranslator.com but even that site has trouble trying to dissect your drivel. Go take your meds and stop dribbling you window licker

banaan
11-10-2012, 04:49 AM
Im glad this crappy event is almost over.... What a waste of time

Dravak
11-10-2012, 05:28 AM
[QUOTE=Dravak;481424]

I have to run every post of yours through mongtranslator.com but even that site has trouble trying to dissect your drivel. Go take your meds and stop dribbling you window licker


so you admit you are a mong lol , typical , you really need that translator hahah
and even then you didn't finish the classes , what a worthless person .

and you dare to insult others ?

Gambit12
11-11-2012, 09:22 PM
So what happened on this event..? Does anyone got all the way to the boss? I was like around 25 thugs...

PawnXIIX
11-11-2012, 09:41 PM
I finished with 5 informant kills. Probably would have gotten into the hitmen if the event actually lasted as long as it was supposed to. Then again, it's much like a galactic standard week from MIB.


Also known as 1 hour.

Wendell
03-26-2013, 01:10 AM
From which level onwards will this invasion event be applicable?? I am at level 15 but no invasion event n i updated the app from play store... The bullet events would get activated once would reach level 10

psxnitro
03-26-2013, 02:05 AM
Nice necro, almost forgot about this unique event from back then. So now we have an idea what the current event MW is all about.