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Winstrol
02-12-2013, 07:05 PM
Those stats are pretty crazy
http://i45.tinypic.com/20sx8d1.png

Ratma2001
02-12-2013, 07:09 PM
i may even consider getting me some of these ? stats are good for what i am looking for and the cost is exceptable

Cloud22
02-12-2013, 07:09 PM
That is crazy commons are better then dragons and the 1000 Atk unit would be sweet but I bet you have a 1% chance getting that one.

Winstrol
02-12-2013, 07:13 PM
70%/25%/5% :p

The_Legend_Shall_Live_On
02-12-2013, 07:58 PM
Yeah, I may have to just go for a 3-box set and see what happens. Best gem buying units ever so far for their stat value

The1nONLY
02-12-2013, 08:01 PM
I bought 10x 175 already and not even 1 rare

kruppe
02-12-2013, 08:03 PM
I bought 10x 175 already and not even 1 rare

Did 11 and have 7 rare. That being said this is the first where even the common outdo dragons

Scott the Great
02-12-2013, 08:52 PM
Is this a boss event? I see 2 new quest but never this screen for the loot items or anything regarding strong boxes.

Dexter Morgan
02-12-2013, 09:01 PM
It's under the special tab, the crates you can purchase for 60 gems for 1 or 175 gems for 3

Ratma2001
02-12-2013, 09:04 PM
Is this a boss event? I see 2 new quest but never this screen for the loot items or anything regarding strong boxes.
These are boxes you can purchase with Gems, go into your profile click on "Special" look for boxes and buy them ...see if you win cost is 175 gems per box and you get 3 random items. give it go, you cany loose for the price

Darn..Dexter quicker typer than me

MSH
02-12-2013, 09:33 PM
That is crazy commons are better then dragons and the 1000 Atk unit would be sweet but I bet you have a 1% chance getting that one.

Free playing is dead

Zicca
02-13-2013, 03:18 AM
Free playing is dead

I'm a free player, I use the earn free gem method (may take little time). Having said that, I spent gems on the limited phoenix earlier today. Kinda wish I hadn't now and leaves me well short of getting three boxes. Maybe it's for the better as my luck at gambling is bad (reason I'm a free KA player, my money goes to the casino).

Also anyone noticed they raised the price on the lowest free limited unit from 60 to 65gems now.



Winstrol got banned?

DragCro
02-13-2013, 03:22 AM
I like the rare ones but i dont know if i will get it buying this crates.Maybe better to save my gems for LTQ

steve_r
02-13-2013, 03:38 AM
I wonder if anybody is studying stat inflation. Even if you want to spend money, maybe it's better to wait
unless you can use the stats right now.

ezinap
02-13-2013, 04:23 AM
... stat inflation...
Indeed, it first started with the event award units. Now in the crates as well...

jonny0284
02-13-2013, 04:29 AM
They stat inflated everyone with all the free prizes that people were hoarding in the LTQ's. C'mon, now it's wrong to ask people to pay?

I might not be buying into the Valentine's Day LTQ or even the crates. But, I'm so GLAD they made this harder. It's keeping all the free players where they should be, behind the Gem spenders. Not with them.

sleazius
02-13-2013, 04:44 AM
I bought 10 x 3 crates.

3 rares in total, 4 uncommons, the rest commons. Feels lower than normal.

The1nONLY
02-13-2013, 05:48 AM
Great Winstrol got himself banned from forum with constant swearing?

Proprioc3ption
02-13-2013, 06:33 AM
Great Winstrol got himself banned from forum with constant swearing?

Lol, naughty boy! He'll be back on with a secondary...he won't be able to help himself. Besides, we need someone to slap the whiners when they complain... or maybe Jonny0284 can take over that job for him?

Gambit12
02-13-2013, 06:55 AM
Lol, naughty boy! He'll be back on with a secondary...he won't be able to help himself. Besides, we need someone to slap the whiners when they complain... or maybe Jonny0284 can take over that job for him?

What!? Oh bummer, what did he do..??

Dexter Morgan
02-13-2013, 07:14 AM
Got 1 rare out of 6 opens, but most have higher attack than dragon, so for around 1000 gems I got 18 indestructible units, almost half with double the dragon attack. That's good to me

Battle Mage
02-13-2013, 07:54 AM
Has anyone else noticed that the value of the LE units seems to be getting better?
These latest Gaian warriors seem pretty cheap for their stats. And sitting right next to the PoS, it's easy to make the comparison with the 'standard'.
Very tempting........

BadNews
02-13-2013, 08:16 AM
Great Winstrol got himself banned from forum with constant swearing?
There is report button on the left bottom corner of each post. I believe he got reported by somebody.

ezinap
02-13-2013, 09:17 AM
Has anyone else noticed that the value of the LE units seems to be getting better?

Actually we did, on the previous page, although we called it 'stat inflation'.
I guess 'getting better' is easier to understand.
So yes: all indestructibles seem to be getting better and better!

Probably it is a way to give new starting Gem players an edge over the existing bulk of free players.

jonny0284
02-13-2013, 10:28 AM
Relax guys, Winnie will be back soon. ;) I can't shoulder the burden by myself.

willb125
02-13-2013, 11:51 AM
Just as sure as rampant inflation will destroy a currency, it will destroy a game. Even for the gem players.

It appears that stat levels (for gem, LTQ, LE and other such units) are rising at a brisk pace of late. Just a few months ago, units like the Vallata 840A/1140D were highly sought after and valuable.

Now? 840A/1140D is ok, solid, but not spectacular. How many gems did you spend to get Vallata? Yeah, quite a few. I did too. What's it worth now? Much less and if the inflation continues, it'll be worth next to nothing to the high gem folks (who are the monetary basis for this game).

So that brings up the units from the new LTQ, box event. 9kA/D is great. Something for big gem spenders to shoot for, to be sure. But ask yourself, what will it be worth in a month or two? At this rate, the "big" units will be 20-30kA/D, making the 1k A/D units you paid $100+ of greatly diminished value.

If you have lots of cash to spend on the game, that's great. Just be prepared for greatly diminishing returns on your prior unit investments.

Jixx
02-13-2013, 11:59 AM
Just as sure as rampant inflation will destroy a currency, it will destroy a game. Even for the gem players.

It appears that stat levels (for gem, LTQ, LE and other such units) are rising at a brisk pace of late. Just a few months ago, units like the Vallata 840A/1140D were highly sought after and valuable.

Now? 840A/1140D is ok, solid, but not spectacular. How many gems did you spend to get Vallata? Yeah, quite a few. I did too. What's it worth now? Much less and if the inflation continues, it'll be worth next to nothing to the high gem folks (who are the monetary basis for this game).

So that brings up the units from the new LTQ, box event. 9kA/D is great. Something for big gem spenders to shoot for, to be sure. But ask yourself, what will it be worth in a month or two? At this rate, the "big" units will be 20-30kA/D, making the 1k A/D units you paid $100+ of greatly diminished value.

If you have lots of cash to spend on the game, that's great. Just be prepared for greatly diminishing returns on your prior unit investments.

They wont. At the time you invested in, for instance, the Vallata that unit was epic. Now, there are more epic units you need to invest in to make sure you keep your edge over free players. Means Gree can keep on paying its employees. Given to the huge amount of people still spending tons of gems this seems like quite a solid business model.

bobfishcake
02-13-2013, 11:59 AM
Relax guys, Winnie will be back soon. ;) I can't shoulder the burden by myself.

With his style I bet it will be obvious what his new name is within one or two posts.

jonny0284
02-13-2013, 01:31 PM
His new name will be Winstrol, Bob. :)

ratiatierna
02-13-2013, 03:39 PM
I used the gems I had left and got 3 sets of boxes, got 2 rares (not the hydra) 2 uncommons and 5 commons

Battle Mage
02-13-2013, 08:07 PM
Actually we did, on the previous page, although we called it 'stat inflation'.

Hey Ezinap, yeah I appreciate that the absolute stats are rising. What I was getting at was the value - cost for those stats.

Now I've only been playing for a few months and haven't been in any position to go after the high stat prize units, but I gather that there has been a lot of stat inflation of those units recently. The figures in the LTQE prize thread certainly seem to show that.

At the same time, however the quests have become harder, with higher (potential) spends to achieve those prizes. So the effective cost has gone up too. Maybe someone's tracked it all, but the higher spend for higher stats would indicate that the value of these recent prizes is around the same.

What I was talking about is the limited edition units. It doesn't seem to me that the cost of these has risen significantly, while their stats seem to have risen. Ie. better value.

Anyone else noticed or is it just me?

Battle Mage
02-13-2013, 10:14 PM
Just me then? Must be wrong...

In any case, like you wrote..


.all indestructibles seem to be getting better and better!

Timbathia
02-13-2013, 11:57 PM
Just opened three and got one rare, one uncommon and one common. Not bad.

Ratma2001
02-14-2013, 01:15 AM
Did 5 crates got 11 X Common and 4 X uncommon still good value. Will get more tomorrow , as my stats are lacking in regards to who see's me getting to the peep show for the 200's and I dont want The1 biting yet ! Cause I am a tasty Morsal for the big ones looking for new meat ! Have to strategize properly and make this work... This is what it's all about, don't need to stick my neck out just yet !

Ratma2001
02-16-2013, 04:17 AM
Did 7 more crates and 5 rare 7 uncommon and the rest usual suspects , better than last crates

Proprioc3ption
02-16-2013, 05:39 AM
Great work Ratma! Wish i had some of my 2400 gems i wasted on the bow (which i still don't have) to spend on these crates. Glad you got some good stuff though.

I'm raiding like crazy at the moment...someone hit me with the jonny stick! Not many happy peeps around my level hahaha!

jonny0284
02-16-2013, 09:33 AM
I'm raiding like crazy at the moment...someone hit me with the jonny stick!

I love how I am associated with being the a-hole. How did that happen? lol ;)

Davinci
02-16-2013, 10:00 AM
Just jumped and bought 5 for the 60 gems. 3 common 2 uncommon. Dragons are nice but soon to be weeded out

MSH
02-16-2013, 11:02 AM
Hey Ezinap, yeah I appreciate that the absolute stats are rising. What I was getting at was the value - cost for those stats.

What I was talking about is the limited edition units. It doesn't seem to me that the cost of these has risen significantly, while their stats seem to have risen. Ie. better value.
Anyone else noticed or is it just me?

Depends on the point of view. Increasingly higher stats "entry level" gem units mean rampart devaluation of anything gold based - the latest "gaian" entry levels, as well as the latest common chest units are stronger than the dragons. Hence - one does not need much strategy, skill, perseverance, etc. anymore - just cash. Not even that much of it. One starts with all gem army/commensurate armor/weaponry and grows everything with each subsequent level while acing the boss events (still higher stats gem units) and PvP based LTQs (ditto), then when the level/energy/hero strength/equipment is high enough all LTQs are reachable. Plain, simple, boring...

ezinap
02-16-2013, 01:38 PM
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At the same time, however the quests have become harder, with higher (potential) spends to achieve those prizes. So the effective cost has gone up too. Maybe someone's tracked it all, but the higher spend for higher stats would indicate that the value of these recent prizes is around the same.

What I was talking about is the limited edition units. It doesn't seem to me that the cost of these has risen significantly, while their stats seem to have risen. Ie. better value.

Hi Battle Mage,
Sorry I didn't read your post earlier.

Interesting point you made, to take cost into the equation.
The other posts here show that Gree made these crates interesting for high level players. I guess better value indeed!
Maybe Gree is trying to milk the Gem players over their whole game progress from start till end phase...

@MSH, better than dragon units has always been for sale. The boring money route has always been there. It is actually rather friendly of Gree to have those as entry units. I mean, it saves the starting spender a mistake.

MSH
02-16-2013, 02:13 PM
@MSH, better than dragon units has always been for sale. The boring money route has always been there. It is actually rather friendly of Gree to have those as entry units. I mean, it saves the starting spender a mistake.

Agreed, but they were much more expensive/having worse costs/quality ratios, than the new ones...AND were dispensed at the later stages in the game...Also, I have nothing against someone else's "starting spender mistakes" - part of the learning curve, I guess ;)

The_Legend_Shall_Live_On
02-16-2013, 06:33 PM
Thought I'd try these, so bought three sets of 3, got 4 rares (1 of each at least), 1 uncommon and 4 common.

Ratma2001
02-16-2013, 06:47 PM
Thought I'd try these, so bought three sets of 3, got 4 rares (1 of each at least), 1 uncommon and 4 common.

Excellent pick up and for me better worth while than LTQ , I think I purchased about 15 crates so got a good kick in stats also, well done, for me if it's bett than Dragoons then it worth it, unlike the earlier ones.

Gambit12
02-16-2013, 07:10 PM
Excellent pick up and for me better worth while than LTQ , I think I purchased about 15 crates so got a good kick in stats also, well done, for me if it's bett than Dragoons then it worth it, unlike the earlier ones.

What did you get Ratma on this 3 crates..??

Namine33
02-16-2013, 09:46 PM
I just bought a 3pack, and got 2 rare (both Blockade Runners) and Common (Servant of the Fey)...
Not too bad honestly...

Now why cant I have that kind of luck with the arrows????

Altergray
02-17-2013, 12:56 AM
I bought 8 x3 Boxes and got the following:

RARE
Accursed Hydra - 0 (pffft)
Beast Tamer - 1
Blockade Runner - 2

UNCOMMON
Decaying Werewolf - 4
Vermin Warrior - 0
Spirit Guide - 1

COMMON
Servent Of The Fey - 5
Cestus Fighter - 8
Howling Banshee - 3

Ratma2001
02-17-2013, 05:08 AM
And what I ended up with after 17 Crates and yes2975 Gems worth but better than dragons and at least I win something unlike current events where chances is virtually none existant, but better for me , I can actually see value ! I walk away with minimum of 3 units per go !


RARE
Accursed Hydra - 0 MIA do these exist ?
Beast Tamer - 3
Blockade Runner - 3

UNCOMMON
Decaying Werewolf - 5
Vermin Warrior - 3
Spirit Guide - 3

COMMON
Servent Of The Fey - 12
Cestus Fighter - 9
Howling Banshee - 13