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2nd dan
03-05-2013, 09:17 AM
It has been over 3 and a half days now iv been stuck on 8 shells and I have tryed over 30-35 time with gold and with money and havnt got anything its doing my head in is anyone else finding it harder than normal for the last few or can anyone shed any light on the situation???

Nouife
03-05-2013, 09:36 AM
[...] or can anyone shed any light on the situation???

Google 'Kompu Gacha'.

Web323
03-05-2013, 10:21 AM
There is a 1% chance from what I heard. I spent over a vault on it and got plenty of worthless items. I am done with the event and future events like this.

Major Silverback
03-05-2013, 10:24 AM
Stuck at nine shells, ugh!

Alltherage
03-05-2013, 10:24 AM
Google 'Kompu Gacha'.

Insidious, but I think this comes as a suprise to no one.

No Retreat No Surrender
03-05-2013, 11:02 AM
I have spoken with a couple of friends who are looking into this further after my kids were sucked into this gambling no win problem.

Looks like gree are allowing kids over the age of 12 through to adults including me to spend real money gambling on a prize that doesn't happen.

The percentage of winning moves every time after 7 - we opened around 60 gold crates for 0 shells!

Whereas we won 8 or 9 immediately for nothing, i'm sure iTunes and other authorities will have great interest in there business activities.

I myself have an internet publishing company and will be looking at an article based on this activity.

Gree you are welcome to contact me should you feel everyone's comments here are wrong.

I have 20 people in my faction as well as most of this forum who will disagree.

YOU NEED TO INFORM YOUR TARGET AUDIENCE THE PERCENTAGE PROBABILITY OF WINNING IN YOUR GAMBLING CRATE GAME OPTION.

regards

Bek 1
03-05-2013, 11:27 AM
I was stuck on the 8th case for 2 days... And today I got both 9 and 10 !!!!!

No Retreat No Surrender
03-05-2013, 11:37 AM
Just used the gold up on both mine and my lads and got 2 concrete, and 3 x 300 valour and 2 x 100k.

scam

Plutorules
03-05-2013, 11:50 AM
I have spoken with a couple of friends who are looking into this further after my kids were sucked into this gambling no win problem.

Looks like gree are allowing kids over the age of 12 through to adults including me to spend real money gambling on a prize that doesn't happen.

The percentage of winning moves every time after 7 - we opened around 60 gold crates for 0 shells!

Whereas we won 8 or 9 immediately for nothing, i'm sure iTunes and other authorities will have great interest in there business activities.

I myself have an internet publishing company and will be looking at an article based on this activity.

Gree you are welcome to contact me should you feel everyone's comments here are wrong.

I have 20 people in my faction as well as most of this forum who will disagree.

YOU NEED TO INFORM YOUR TARGET AUDIENCE THE PERCENTAGE PROBABILITY OF WINNING IN YOUR GAMBLING CRATE GAME OPTION.

regards

Just my two cents:

This is a game and Gree do like it when you spend money on gold. If you let your kids play then you make sure if they can spend money or not.

Best whises Pluto

procsyzarc
03-05-2013, 01:11 PM
Took me 8k gold to get the last 2. Won't bother next time but its hard to stop once you start, would have probably been better off.....maybe putting it towards the auction style event but then again since MW seems to have a lot more big spenders and you usally require 2-3 times the amount of other games

Thump3r
03-05-2013, 02:05 PM
Im over the crate events also! Thanks for the waste of money, i spent over 2k gold just to be stuck on 9 since the first hour of the event. Worthless

stevek
03-05-2013, 02:08 PM
"gacha" is Japanese for "gotcha". Nouifle is correct....do a google search for "complete gacha"

No Retreat No Surrender
03-05-2013, 02:56 PM
Are we not trying to win a prize?

Товарищ
03-05-2013, 03:06 PM
There's no excuse in not keeping an eye on your kids and not being there for them as a parent.
If they use Your money, it is Your responsibility as a parent.
If they use their own money, it's just one out of many life lessons in responsibility... (it can't be any big amounts can it? if it is, how'd they get it? in any case, lesson for life)

As for GREE, I totally agree they should give a somewhat clear (exact is boring) estimate on one's odds, so one has some basis to make a decision on!

Here's such an estimate for the gold case from me:
Given an open, I've read that the probability to get the 10:th part is like 2% at the higher tiers*. That makes the prob to get 9->10 after N tries:
1-(1-[prob to get])^N or 1-[prob NOT to get]^N or 1-0.98^N
at 20 opens it's 33%, 40 means 55%, 60 means 70%
I understand this is no comfort to you guys (especially the gold players), but hope it at least gives a more clear picture...


*Tiers being ranges of levels, as follows:
Tier 1: lvl1 - 25
Tier 2: lvl26 - 50
Tier 3: lvl51 - 75
Tier 4: lvl76 - 100
Tier 5: lvl101 - 150
Tier 6: lvl151 - 200


Also, check my Crate events guide for pretty complete info:
http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?46686

Special Air Service
03-05-2013, 03:44 PM
GREE is making its own grave of worthless trust with this.

Hammer mike
03-05-2013, 04:01 PM
Nobody is forcing any of us to use real money!! If you do it is by choice, Your choice!! I get so tired of people complaining on here how Gree is doing this and Gree is doing that, they are doing what any other business would do, Making money!! That is what they are here for.
People this is a game if you don't like how it is being play then quit. Nobody is forcing you to play!!!

Blest@iBOB!.mw
03-05-2013, 04:22 PM
Tavarish LOVES to post stats.... Thanks for helping me with my device bro!

CorporateNinja
03-05-2013, 05:04 PM
When you spend real money, there should be a bonus in that. I agree when I got two bricks right in a row spending gold....grrr...if they wish for people to spend money, make it at least worth the while or post the percentage rate of win for items so we have more information to make our choices. This is still a service industry and customers bring more customers. *steps down from soap box*

~CN~

sherlock123
03-05-2013, 05:20 PM
I have to agree with you.

This crate event is rigged by GREE for rich gold players only.

If you are only using in-game cash to open crates, then you can say goodbye to the spectral warrior.

I have opened more than 50 crates( no joke or exaggeration) and still did not get 9th artillery shell.

Hammer mike
03-05-2013, 05:41 PM
Ok look at it this way, at a casino are there percentages posted on slot machines....NO!! And in a casino you actually have a chance at winning money back. There is no promise that if you use gold you will get the prize in 1 of these events!!I used gold to open all of the ammo crates to get the ammo and i had all 10 prizes the first day so I understand where you are coming from. If you want high level units and want a guarantee of getting them buy LE sets.
I have a budget that I set for myself per month to spend on this game because I enjoy it. Does Gree owe me anything....absolutely not. I play because I enjoy the game and chatting with the members of my faction.

Товарищ
03-05-2013, 05:56 PM
Tavarish LOVES to post stats.... Thanks for helping me with my device bro!
Anytime man!
And more stats are under construction btw ;)

Getyourshinebox
03-05-2013, 08:08 PM
It's a scam to get you to buy gold. I got 8 shells first day and a half than nothing for the last 3 days. Spent $30 either a glitch(shocker) or intentional(most likely)

cesspit
03-05-2013, 08:41 PM
I got my 10/10 shell this morning.. All using game cash and NO Gold at all. Maybe I was just lucky on my android phone.

Red rover
03-05-2013, 09:38 PM
If you are stupid enough to spend money on this game then you deserve to be ripped off. I have never spent a red cent on this game and even though I am not what I would call a Big Dawg, I still have good stats and have players looking to recruit or ally with me all the time.

And I am not going to care if I don't get the level 10 loot prize or not. Let the stupid Gold players spend their paycheck on that.

Oh BTW I am at a level 7 prize and have my day off tomorrow to keep trying for the level 10.:cool:

JMS
03-05-2013, 09:56 PM
Just got my 10th. 1400 gold. Like being at a blackjack table and chasing your $

Crypt
03-06-2013, 12:29 AM
Ok look at it this way, at a casino are there percentages posted on slot machines....NO!! And in a casino you actually have a chance at winning money back. There is no promise that if you use gold you will get the prize in 1 of these events!!I used gold to open all of the ammo crates to get the ammo and i had all 10 prizes the first day so I understand where you are coming from. If you want high level units and want a guarantee of getting them buy LE sets.
I have a budget that I set for myself per month to spend on this game because I enjoy it. Does Gree owe me anything....absolutely not. I play because I enjoy the game and chatting with the members of my faction.

/agree

life is a gamble, if you dont like it dont play

Tournai
03-06-2013, 12:44 AM
If you are stupid enough to spend money on this game then you deserve to be ripped off. I have never spent a red cent on this game and even though I am not what I would call a Big Dawg, I still have good stats and have players looking to recruit or ally with me all the time.

And I am not going to care if I don't get the level 10 loot prize or not. Let the stupid Gold players spend their paycheck on that.

Oh BTW I am at a level 7 prize and have my day off tomorrow to keep trying for the level 10.:cool:

Only with Ingame Money, and the 10th Shell I got for Free. But 16 maybe 17 tries a day!

http://i74.servimg.com/u/f74/18/14/33/66/spectr10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=13&u=18143366)

Auspex
03-06-2013, 02:43 AM
I just opened for my 10th shell but somehow was un connected to the network and didn't actually get it. Not my best morning. Time to move the Wifi to a more central location I think.

Tournai
03-06-2013, 03:30 AM
I just opened for my 10th shell but somehow was un connected to the network and didn't actually get it. Not my best morning. Time to move the Wifi to a more central location I think.

Seriously? Did you fixed a screenshot? Just send in the ticket, or reconnect the device, and open the box event.

Maybe Gree will push the unit to your device. If not, just send in a ticket.

Dutchie
03-06-2013, 03:36 AM
Only with Ingame Money, and the 10th Shell I got for Free. But 16 maybe 17 tries a day!

http://i74.servimg.com/u/f74/18/14/33/66/spectr10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=13&u=18143366)

Heel mooi gedaan! Ik ben jaloers ;)

Alo
03-06-2013, 04:00 AM
ffs, was stuck on 8 for long time, now I've been stuck on 9 for 40 hours now :( over 200 unopened ammo crates :D

Tournai
03-06-2013, 04:18 AM
Heel mooi gedaan! Ik ben jaloers ;)

Also have about 145 Ammo crates left, still using the Medium chance for this!

Still stuck at 8 shelss on my lower account, so I am still busy with that one:P

Tournai
03-06-2013, 07:52 AM
Also have about 145 Ammo crates left, still using the Medium chance for this!

Still stuck at 8 shelss on my lower account, so I am still busy with that one:P

Got the 9th just now! medium chance!

Fella575
03-06-2013, 10:19 AM
Last event like this for me. Used a pile of gold and stuck at 8. GREE has alienated me now from all their "special events".
Just have made it to costly. This may even be my las t faction war.
Concrete????? Really..what a slap in the face
Cheers
J

alanng
03-06-2013, 11:01 AM
Let me tell you the odds for the last 3 shells.
8th is 17%, 9th is 7%, 10th is 2%.
So for the 10th shell, in average, you need 50 attempts to get the shell, less if you are lucky.

Mjm78mjm
03-06-2013, 11:14 AM
Yeah, im pissed, its a scam. Ill never do those events again. I got to 9 with 3 days left and then never got another ammo cartridge after that. Buch of B.S.

sherlock123
03-06-2013, 12:03 PM
I will NEVER EVER EVER do these SCAM money-grubbing events by GREEd in MW ever again.

Opened more than 60 crates and still no 9th shell.

TEG
03-06-2013, 12:21 PM
Got 9 open with cash only with days left to spare.

After a couple days of no opens on #10, did what Gree wants (bought 1500 gold at full price), and proceeded to time reset and crowbar open. After spending ~1200 gold it finally got the #10 shell & prize.

Is a 10% Infantry attack boost worth about $80 of real money?

GeekKid101
03-06-2013, 12:41 PM
Google 'Kompu Gacha'.

Thank you Nouife.

2nd dan
03-06-2013, 01:12 PM
Event finished and I'm still stuck on 8 my only thought is maybe have two sets of units for ones who use gold and then for free players...

2nd dan
03-06-2013, 01:14 PM
I have tried almost 12-13 opens a day... Got to 8 within the first 12 hours (yes I used the 50 free gold from gree) and then the next 4.5 days of sorry please try again and a slap in the face with concrete...

Mick
03-07-2013, 01:34 PM
I dunno guys, I've been doing these mini games since they started, and as a free player only using the cash option I have actually won at least three in MW and one in KA.

Im no statistician, but it seems to me that these crate events all follow a predictable pattern, but the open crate plus prize percentages are set with varying levels of difficulty.

Day's one and two are when you get the most items, between say 5 and 8. Days 3 and 4 are usually mostly fails and the last day or two will have slightly more prizes just to keep the desperado's interested.

If you look at it like I do, then cash bought invincible units are always cheap, and if you get lucky and get 9 or even 10 event mini prizes well then that's even better.