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johnpalmer7
03-11-2013, 10:26 AM
well another couple of days and ill have enough for the last 2 slots.

what did you all do with your last 2 slots, not sure weather to go for 2 more armorsmiths or 1 more and another training ground. its a really pain cooking event stuff it takes so long even with upgrades.

discopalace123
03-11-2013, 10:35 AM
I bought my last expansion. It takes 2 days for the order to complete; tomorrow I'll have a full castle!

I currently have 3 armorsmiths and the rest are training grounds. I'm gonna add a 4th armorsmith. This should really help pump out the improvements. Hmm maybe I should go with 5 armorsmiths? Not sure what else to do with gold besides fusing armor...

Does anyone here have 5 armorsmiths???

johnpalmer7
03-11-2013, 10:39 AM
it would be great to have something else to do with gold, maybe some sort of gamble machine so we can win more armors and stuff to fuse.

discopalace123
03-11-2013, 10:44 AM
The limiting factor on producing armors for me is farming. It gets really tedious trying to run through Skeleton's Tomb or Relic Ruins over and over. I need 12 successful runs of Skeletons Tomb to get enough materials to create snakeskin at 3 armorsmiths (and usually a couple runs produce stone slabs rather than snakeskin, argh). Once I go to 4 armorsmiths, I'll need 16 runs! This is the most time consuming part of the game for me.

The training grounds just produce gold, so you don't need to farm to feed them. That's probably the biggest argument for me NOT to add armorsmiths. Got another day to decide....

zhy
03-11-2013, 10:55 AM
i will keep the last 2 spots to finish some quests :P

johnpalmer7
03-11-2013, 10:59 AM
you will need 6 squares to finish the build quests, you need to have 3 cathedrals and 3 guard towers or something like that if i remember correctly

Eunuchorn
03-11-2013, 12:28 PM
I've been hovering between 300k & 500k for too long, but wanted to get my wraith & stormlord armor up a bit. Now I'm going to use my 3 armories to only make snakeskin while I save up my 2 mill for last spot. & I'm putting 2 armories there. Then every 2 million gold I save I'm going to delete a training ground.

Mad Fusion
03-11-2013, 12:32 PM
I went witb 12 training field 3 armory. Enhqncement cost 12-13 k per at level 50. So 30 enhqncement at 12 k is 360k gold. 12 trining field upgrade colects about 380k gold ler day. So with cost of crafting and increase in enjqncement cost i will never do more than 30 enhqncements. If enhqncement cost 20k per than fusion is more gold effecient than s ameskin so i will only need 0-1 max. Imo 2 armory would. E more effecient in long run. I went with three just to get few armor up to 50 quickly than swap one out fir another field.

Mad Fusion
03-11-2013, 12:59 PM
The limiting factor on producing armors for me is farming. It gets really tedious trying to run through Skeleton's Tomb or Relic Ruins over and over. I need 12 successful runs of Skeletons Tomb to get enough materials to create snakeskin at 3 armorsmiths (and usually a couple runs produce stone slabs rather than snakeskin, argh). Once I go to 4 armorsmiths, I'll need 16 runs! This is the most time consuming part of the game for me.

The training grounds just produce gold, so you don't need to farm to feed them. That's probably the biggest argument for me NOT to add armorsmiths. Got another day to decide....Have to farm snakeskin or fusion stones. I have just one armor at 50 now and probably second 50 in a day or two and third by end if week. Im going with stoneplat up to about 30, snakeskin to 55-60 and probably 50 point or more enhancement armor the rest of the way. Currently uqve 42 stones. It is tedious to farm so i might go a little longer with stoneplate and incur the extra cost.

Eunuchorn
03-11-2013, 01:10 PM
How do you farm stones. I got one off snake lady today. So awesome lol. 1/100 runs

Mad Fusion
03-11-2013, 01:17 PM
How do you farm stones. I got one off snake lady today. So awesome lol. 1/100 runsDrop rate is low. I farm snakeskin and get stones that way.

zhy
03-11-2013, 01:48 PM
you will need 6 squares to finish the build quests, you need to have 3 cathedrals and 3 guard towers or something like that if i remember correctlyty for info :P will delete 1 training field then :P. do u know if that was the last building quest?

discopalace123
03-12-2013, 12:25 PM
Oh haha, I saw Eunuchorn post this a while ago, but I didn't know what it was for:
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f310/CRGautier/AFBBC54E-DA15-4FCB-82B9-00F0B3DDFF97-683-0000004F22C76F1C_zpsd357b03a.jpg

The 4th armorsmith costs you 20 gems!


ty for info :P will delete 1 training field then :P. do u know if that was the last building quest?
Unfortunately no! I've gone 2 more build quests beyond this: 1) upgrade a cathedral to L2, and 2) build a crystal conservatory. I wouldn't be surprised if there are quests that go up the chain of buildings...

Eunuchorn
03-12-2013, 03:21 PM
You guys have a long ways to go. I should have kept track of the buildings for you.


I vaguely recall one of the last ones being 2 dungeons 2 monster nest or something along those lines

There's also multiple backtracks for cathedrals & conservatories(I want to say lvl 2 conservatory was one of the last 3)

johnpalmer7
03-13-2013, 09:48 AM
ty for info :P will delete 1 training field then :P. do u know if that was the last building quest?

thats the last building quest, in that series but i just got another.

X marks the gravestone 4

build 1 tavern

collect 3000 from taverns

clear blazing tides once on epic stage

clear caballero desert once on honor stage.

now thats a real pain in the ass.

dont want to delete the monster nest or a training yard, so ill have to complete on the last upgrade, and hope theres no more later

discopalace123
03-13-2013, 04:27 PM
yeah i've had to build 2 cathedrals, 2 taverns, 2 crystal conservatories, now it's 2 dungeons. Don't feel like wasting 30K on a 2nd dungeon. And I don't feel like spending 100K on a monster nest - what a ripoff for a building that only stores 2hrs' worth of gold!

Baah - was just about to sell those buildings... but I changed my mind. Mind as well go with the quest lines, just to stay entertained...

Btw, the 5th armorsmith costs you 40 gems! I think I'll just stick with 4 for now.

zhy
03-13-2013, 04:29 PM
im thinking to wait next gems sale n upgrade most of training fields to lv3

Bryson
03-13-2013, 06:12 PM
Why? Once you unlock your expansions what could you possible need that much money for? You'll be swimming in money by that point.

zhy
03-13-2013, 06:44 PM
4 armorsmiths, always crafting basics, are u sure that will allow to swim in the money?

discopalace123
03-14-2013, 09:21 AM
I've been running negative cash flow the last day. All these basics + enhancement/combining costs are expensive! It's fine if you're improving L1-30 armor. But from L30 and up it gets very expensive, esp for L70 max armors. Sure I could save money if I do less of it, but I figure it's best to pump out the enhancements as quickly as you can. Aside from money, other limiting factor is the number of fusion stones.

Part of the problem is the "build" quest line. So I completed the monster nest one. A couple quests later, I have to build 3 taverns, 3 cathedrals, and 2 training yards. This would be ok - but only if I blow away the monster nest. Should I? I would hate to have to build yet another monster nest for 100K for a future quest. Arrrrgh. Can't wait to get rid of all these and max out on training yards again....

Sunsfan1caw
03-14-2013, 01:06 PM
Disco, the last "build" quest requires 2 monster nests, one being upgraded. I am so glad to be done with that quest line. I bought and sold so many buildings, just a waste.

As of this morning, I now have all expansion slots and settled on 10 training grounds and 5 Armorsmiths. Though spending 60 gems on the last two Armorsmiths was tough, in the long run, I thought this was the best combo for my playing style. Oh, and the last mini square, I kept one of the monster nests because it looks cool.

karikari
03-14-2013, 09:20 PM
hey guys,
does upgrading buildings increase the gold per hour or just the maximum capacity?

discopalace123
03-14-2013, 09:25 PM
Thanks Sunsfan! I hired a crew to build my last monster's nest. Btw, I "used your body" last night lol... in a fight :)


hey guys,
does upgrading buildings increase the gold per hour or just the maximum capacity?
It increases both. The game only displays the new max capacity. But what really happens is it keeps the time to max gold the same, while increasing both the capacity and the income per hour. So... it's a very good idea to upgrade your gold buildings.

Bryson
03-14-2013, 09:50 PM
4 armorsmiths, always crafting basics, are u sure that will allow to swim in the money?

Zhy,

It will cost you 20 gems for the 4th armorsmith. Now that leaves you with room for 11 training grounds. Upgrading to level 2 increases production by 30%. Easy to check. Let the level 1 collect 100 gold and compare to level 2.

11 x 1517(1167x0.3) = 16,688 gold/hour = 400,514 per day + another 14,040 gold per day from Dungeon.

Is that enough to produce basics and enhance lvl 70 armors 24/7? I don't know as I am not there yet. Need to know enhancement costs at the upper levels to make more calculations. Either way 414, 554 gold per day is a lot of money also keep in mind that assuming you sleep for 8 hours plus work, school etc.. you won't be crafting 24/7 anyways. Just some food for thought.

zhy
03-14-2013, 11:16 PM
atm im enhancing armors that need about 20k per, means will take about 80k each time i use all 4 slots, so not enough even if i used 24pts armors to enhance (4 snakeskins every 2 hours, so i can run it 5 times per day with 400k, but im awake more than 10 hours per day, yes i go to college n work too, but doesnt take me too much logging on to craft n use knights hp)...if i wanted to use basics or even monoelementals, no way...

Eunuchorn
03-18-2013, 03:39 PM
1 hour to go!
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y458/EunuchornTeh/5FC5E0B8-BC4C-4FF2-A9C4-F3FFE5777901-8780-000004BE03C93F78_zps94c63014.jpg

Samuel_Hdz
03-18-2013, 05:12 PM
1 hour to go!
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y458/EunuchornTeh/5FC5E0B8-BC4C-4FF2-A9C4-F3FFE5777901-8780-000004BE03C93F78_zps94c63014.jpg

I love seeing all that gold ^^

Eunuchorn
03-18-2013, 05:35 PM
In just glad I get to reorganize & have a sweet looking castle! Bye bye training grounds!

Samuel_Hdz
03-18-2013, 07:27 PM
In just glad I get to reorganize & have a sweet looking castle! Bye bye training grounds!

Why are you getting rid of the training grounds?
Just curiosity mate :P

Eunuchorn
03-19-2013, 04:18 PM
Home sweet home.
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y458/EunuchornTeh/A9CAAF90-A17C-4E19-83D1-94D88740482D-10455-000005C0055CA3AE_zpsfdcfdc93.jpg

I see no reason to save money to the point of having all those training grounds. I want aesthetics, & one of two things will happen eventually:

1. Buildings get an overhaul
2. An X-class solar flare knocks out electricity for 20+ years.

Eunuchorn
03-21-2013, 08:42 PM
The 6th Armorer
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y458/EunuchornTeh/B81EE415-50E5-4375-AD94-E65E28F493ED-14512-0000082907BF98CF_zpsec6df06a.jpg

My final castle:
6 armor, 6 monster nest, 2 dungeon, 2 crystal, 5 training ground, 1 fountain.
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y458/EunuchornTeh/2E49D804-1A85-4E7A-BDEB-AA9D9F5926D8-14512-0000082903C275F6_zps2f0e783b.jpg


Here's hoping to building revamps!

WaxMyShazzy
03-21-2013, 09:09 PM
looking good dude. what kind of revamps you thinking about? having the crystal conservatory actually produce crystals!! he he.seriously though im interested.

Eunuchorn
03-21-2013, 10:52 PM
Well, the monster nest is supposed to be best value, as long as you collect every two hours. Everything but Tground is useless overnight. If anything training needs a nerf & everything else have its timer extended & gold boosted. There's a huge disparity when everything other than Tgrounds are more or less useless

Samuel_Hdz
03-22-2013, 02:28 AM
The 6th Armorer
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y458/EunuchornTeh/B81EE415-50E5-4375-AD94-E65E28F493ED-14512-0000082907BF98CF_zpsec6df06a.jpg

My final castle:
6 armor, 6 monster nest, 2 dungeon, 2 crystal, 5 training ground, 1 fountain.
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y458/EunuchornTeh/2E49D804-1A85-4E7A-BDEB-AA9D9F5926D8-14512-0000082903C275F6_zps2f0e783b.jpg


Here's hoping to building revamps!

*whistles* she's a beaut mate!

JeepThug
03-22-2013, 06:50 PM
Forgive me for asking, but what is the point of farming snakeskins at high levels?

Thorusa
03-23-2013, 04:40 AM
Forgive me for asking, but what is the point of farming snakeskins at high levels?

Snakeskin armor is the cheapest and easiest to farm double element armor, most people use it for enhancing.