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dbailey30
03-27-2013, 03:53 PM
Level 1 Mastery (60 Enemies) - Flame Master I - Vallata 860/1140 - Beast (Thanks Winstrol)
Level 5 Mastery - Hellfire Master 3865/3035

Steppe Wolf
91 Energy Per Hit / 21 Hit Back
456HP
$5,290 Gold
100XP Per Hit

Starving Bear
92 Energy Per Hit / 23 Hit Back
468HP
$5,429 Gold
103XP Per Hit

Stone Clan Warrior
93 Energy Per Hit / 22 Hit Back
468HP
$5,429 Gold
103XP Per Hit

Stone Clan Shaman
95 Energy Per Hit / 23 Hit Back
480HP
$5,568 Gold
105XP Per Hit

Crag Wyvern (Rare)
162 Energy Per Hit / 34 Hit Back
1595HP
$18,502 Gold
175XP Per Hit

Mountain Ogre
97 Energy Per Hit / 25 Hit Back
497HP
$5,765 Gold
109XP Per Hit

Badland Troll
109 Energy Per Hit / 29 Hit Back
842HP
$9,767 Gold
123XP Per Hit

Dust Devil
94 Energy Per Hit / 24 Hit Back
480HP
$5,568 Gold
105XP Per Hit

Dusk Harpy
95 Energy Per Hit / 24 Hit Back
484HP
$5,614 Gold
106XP Per Hit

Hill Giant
132 Energy Per Hit / 33 Hit Back
1243HP
$15,579 Gold
147XP Per Hit

Plains Walkers - Reward 3,900 Gold / 106XP
Defeat 3 Steepe Wolves

Feast Or Famine - Reward 3,900 Gold / 106XP
Defeat 3 Starving Bears

Beasts Of The Barrens - Reward 3,900 Gold / 106XP
Defeat 3 Steepe Wolves & 3 Starving Bears

No Stone Unturned - Reward 3,900 Gold / 106XP
Defeat 4 Stone Clan Warriors & 2 Stone Clan Shamen

Death From Above - Reward 3,900 Gold / 106XP
Defeat the Crag Wyvern

King Of The Mountain - Reward 3,900 Gold / 106XP
Defeat the Mountain Ogre

Big, Bad, and Ugly - Reward 3,900 Gold / 106XP
Defeat 3 Badland Trolls

Dust to Dust - Reward 3,900 Gold / 106XP
Defeat 2 Dust Devils

Dusk To Dawn- Reward 3,900 Gold / 106XP
Defeat 3 Dusk Harpies

King Of The Hill- Reward 3,900 Gold / 106XP
Defeat The Hill Giant

Jixx
03-27-2013, 04:06 PM
chances are this next LTQ is going to be buggy

Jixx
03-27-2013, 04:15 PM
Just got the splash screen, this one is really really impossible, dont think i'll be able to get the first out of 5 parts for free.

jonny0284
03-27-2013, 04:17 PM
Goodbye crappy paycheck. :)

Hello last stat run before Guilds.

Polaris79
03-27-2013, 04:17 PM
Too many energy wasted for every single mob, such As 95 for hit with retaliation for 21, 3- hits for every 60 mobs just for round1...

Jixx
03-27-2013, 04:18 PM
killed 3 for 1 full energy bar. 57 to go. Going to pass on this one.

Polaris79
03-27-2013, 04:20 PM
Just popped up for me, not able to access the map as of yet.

Barrens Mastery is also "active" in the Battle For Dragon's Roost screen.

I'll be happy to update this post as the quests come in.

I got only the LTQ, not more quests...

Nacon10
03-27-2013, 04:21 PM
Stupid quest I'm going to pass

Polaris79
03-27-2013, 04:21 PM
killed 3 for 1 full energy bar. 57 to go. Going to pass on this one.

Same here, i'll try to go even further, but i'll have no hope to go far away...

Jixx
03-27-2013, 04:23 PM
Same here, i'll try to go even further, but i'll have no hope to go far away...

you only have 2 days for this one, if the quests grow in difficulty like they used to do it'll cost close to a mountain of gems. Without knowing the rewards, i already know im not going to spend 90 euros on a 2 day event.

jonny0284
03-27-2013, 04:23 PM
Killed 5 with my energy. The Steppe Wolves already dropped 2 great items. Aside from the great XP, pretty good gold, too. :p

Jixx
03-27-2013, 04:25 PM
Killed 5 with my energy. The Steppe Wolves already dropped 2 great items. Aside from the great XP, pretty good gold, too. :p

do you think you'll be able to kill 60 in less than 2,5 days?

jonny0284
03-27-2013, 04:26 PM
do you think you'll be able to kill 60 in less than 2,5 days?

You have to master the map to win final prize.

Level 1 is 60, level 2 is 180 and level 5 is 300 mob's.

jonny0284
03-27-2013, 04:27 PM
do you think you'll be able to kill 60 in less than 2,5 days?

I might beat level 1? Hahaha.

Jixx
03-27-2013, 04:27 PM
You have to master the map to win final prize.

Level 1 is 60, level 2 is 180 and level 5 is 300 mob's.

I know, i was just talking about the first part, do you deem it possible to finish the first part for free in 2 days 7 hours and 33 minutes we have left?

Winstrol
03-27-2013, 04:29 PM
191700~ ENERGY to spend :rolleyes:

flamingdragon
03-27-2013, 04:30 PM
seems like this is just for us gem spenders

Perfuzzie
03-27-2013, 04:30 PM
2 days off for me :D

Perfuzzie
03-27-2013, 04:31 PM
Killed 5 with my energy. The Steppe Wolves already dropped 2 great items. Aside from the great XP, pretty good gold, too. :p


if they`ve dropped cupids bow i`ll go for it :))

Jixx
03-27-2013, 04:32 PM
191700~ ENERGY to spend :rolleyes:

so if someone were to be nice and put up the rewards tonight he'd have to spend (thinking with my own 1200 energy bar full at the start) at least 3820 gems. OK

spectra
03-27-2013, 04:33 PM
moved post to another page

jonny0284
03-27-2013, 04:34 PM
I know, i was just talking about the first part, do you deem it possible to finish the first part for free in 2 days 7 hours and 33 minutes we have left?

Free? If you have enough Hero Strength+weapon and hit hard enough, probably. But, it'll be tough in the timeline given.

Polaris79
03-27-2013, 04:34 PM
I only know the premium prize, a units with 3800 att if i saw well

GreenGuru
03-27-2013, 04:35 PM
Just popped up for me, not able to access the map as of yet.

Barrens Mastery is also "active" in the Battle For Dragon's Roost screen.

I'll be happy to update this post as the quests come in.

I don't know where you saw a new initial quest, but the new quest for everyone called "Master the Barrens" is the LTQ to do before the Conquest

Jixx
03-27-2013, 04:35 PM
Free? If you have enough Hero Strength+weapon and hit hard enough, probably. But, it'll be tough in the timeline given.

Then Gree stepped over the line with this one, not even being able to finish 1/5 for free with medium damage (150ish average per hit)

Mr T Perfect
03-27-2013, 04:37 PM
Dont forget the 100XP per hit.

only way to get people to level up!!

shame on you gree

4 dead from a full energy bar. 13 hits. 1300XP gain!!

jonny0284
03-27-2013, 04:38 PM
Then Gree stepped over the line with this one, not even being able to finish 1/5 for free with medium damage (150ish average per hit)

I don't feel that way. The most recent LTQ's (most recent 2 come to mind) gave so much to players. The least they can do is create a challenge and if you don't play...


...it's not their fault. Not in the slightest.

GreenGuru
03-27-2013, 04:38 PM
Anyone else but me thinking they want you to get level 5 mastery on this to make a future LTQ held on this map much more difficult for you to defeat because of your level 5 mastery? GREE is getting sneaky lol :p

Mr T Perfect
03-27-2013, 04:38 PM
Can anyone low level confirm if the hit point is the same for level 50 player?? at level 130 its between 90-95 per hit.

just thinking they may have staggered the hit points by level. to give the lower levels a chance??

VileDoom
03-27-2013, 04:39 PM
2 days off for me :D

Me too and I need them. ;)

Jixx
03-27-2013, 04:39 PM
I don't feel that way. The most recent LTQ's (most recent 2 come to mind) gave so much to players. The least they can do is create a challenge and if you don't play...


...it's not their fault. Not in the slightest.

I totally agree with the challenge, and that they've given maybe a little to much away. But not even being able to finish 1 part without having to pay? That makes no sense and drives free players away. It always was a pay to win game and that was great. But now its slowly morphing into a pay to play game, and those always die very quickly.

Erick13
03-27-2013, 04:40 PM
I could use the break and now I have an excuse.

jonny0284
03-27-2013, 04:41 PM
Anyone else but me thinking they want you to get level 5 mastery on this to make a future LTQ held on this map much more difficult for you to defeat because of your level 5 mastery?


I already hate that I mastered the first 14 maps or so. Ugh, it makes me sad to know that I have to beat enemies that are 20% more health.

flamingdragon
03-27-2013, 04:45 PM
i am just doing it because i need to level up cause i have been on level 64 for a month

Winstrol
03-27-2013, 04:46 PM
That thread will be probably , the longest one in KA history ;p . Let's spam that thread with complains about that new LTQ ;p

The_Legend_Shall_Live_On
03-27-2013, 04:47 PM
The quest says to master area level 1. Why does everyone think it's master level 5?

Winstrol
03-27-2013, 04:48 PM
The quest says to master area level 1. Why does everyone think it's master level 5?
I just done level 1 , 4 to go ;p but I don't think that I'll complete it.

Perfuzzie
03-27-2013, 04:48 PM
i am just doing it because i need to level up cause i have been on level 64 for a month

careful what u wish for :)

GreenGuru
03-27-2013, 04:49 PM
I already hate that I mastered the first 14 maps or so. Ugh, it makes me sad to know that I have to beat enemies that are 20% more health.

Yeah, this is exactly why I slowed down on the whole mastery thing the moment I heard about the health percent increases. Knew it would become an obstacle down the road

The_Legend_Shall_Live_On
03-27-2013, 04:50 PM
I just done level 1 , 4 to go ;p but I don't think that I'll complete it.

So each step is to master the next level of the map? What was the first prize if you don't mind?

VVolf
03-27-2013, 04:50 PM
Can anyone low level confirm if the hit point is the same for level 50 player?? at level 130 its between 90-95 per hit.

just thinking they may have staggered the hit points by level. to give the lower levels a chance??

I'm not sure where you think the cutoffs are, but I'm only level 90 and I have the same energy requirements as you

jonny0284
03-27-2013, 04:51 PM
The quest says to master area level 1. Why does everyone think it's master level 5?

There's 5 parts. :p


That thread will be probably , the longest one in KA history ;p . Let's spam that thread with complains about that new LTQ ;p

Are we seriously intercontinental brothers?

dbailey30
03-27-2013, 04:51 PM
I just done level 1 , 4 to go ;p but I don't think that I'll complete it.

Winstrol, do you happen to know what the reward was for level 1 mastery?

flamingdragon
03-27-2013, 04:51 PM
careful what u wish for :)
i can handle it

spectra
03-27-2013, 04:52 PM
chances are this next LTQ is going to be buggy


Just got the splash screen, this one is really really impossible, dont think i'll be able to get the first out of 5 parts for free.


Too many energy wasted for every single mob, such As 95 for hit with retaliation for 21, 3- hits for every 60 mobs just for round1...


The quest says to master area level 1. Why does everyone think it's master level 5?

see picture, you need to kill 900 monsters at a cost of 315 enery per kill (based on a 3 hits kill) for a total of 283,500 energy or the equivalent of 295 refills at 20 gems per refill = 5,900 gems (you will need less if you can kill the monster with less than 3 hits)

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd299/spectra69/photo-72.png

GreenGuru
03-27-2013, 04:52 PM
The quest says to master area level 1. Why does everyone think it's master level 5?

Two Reasons:
1. The splash screen says you need to get to area mastery level 5 to earn the end unit
2. The LTQ shows 5 parts and your first part 1/5 says to achieve level 1 area mastery, indicating the next 4 build to level 5 area mastery

SoccerStud
03-27-2013, 04:53 PM
If your a free player, you'd be lucky to complete part 1 of this quest.

Jixx
03-27-2013, 04:54 PM
Steppe Wolf
91 Energy Per Hit / 21 Hit Back
456HP
$5,290 Gold
100XP Per Hit

Starving Bear
92 Energy Per Hit / 23 Hit Back
468HP
$5,429 Gold
103XP Per Hit

Plains Walkers
Defeat 3 Steepe Wolves

Feast Or Famine
Defeat 3 Starving Bears

Beasts Of The Barrens
Defeat 3 Steepe Wolves & 3 Starving Bears

I dont have those quests?

Winstrol
03-27-2013, 04:55 PM
People accused me of hacking , so no more help from me :D

Jixx
03-27-2013, 04:56 PM
People accused me of hacking , so no more help from me :D

i'm certain they realized their mistakes, the great numbers of people who assured that certain person of his mistake should be enough to coax you into helping us. Right? :3

spectra
03-27-2013, 04:56 PM
People accused me of hacking , so no more help from me :D

Win, you know where to post, I need to know, lol

Perfuzzie
03-27-2013, 04:57 PM
i'm certain they realized their mistakes, the great numbers of people who assured that certain person of his mistake should be enough to coax you into helping us. Right? :3

HAHAHAH fair enough winstrol :)

Perfuzzie
03-27-2013, 04:57 PM
People accused me of hacking , so no more help from me :D

HAHAHAH fair enough winstrol :)

jonny0284
03-27-2013, 04:58 PM
i can handle it

Hahaha. Don't be so confident. You're going to start entering the territory where people have been done with camping and have a hell of an army built.

More power to you to get away from the tent & fire, just humble yourself a bit. ;) You'll see.

Perfuzzie
03-27-2013, 05:01 PM
flaming dragon this is a bad ltq to move on from camping ... dont level 20-30 levels to get a 3k unit... when u can get 200k if u chose 3-4 ltqs well

GreenGuru
03-27-2013, 05:03 PM
People accused me of hacking , so no more help from me :D

:( Damn new people and their blatant jumping to conclusions

The_Legend_Shall_Live_On
03-27-2013, 05:04 PM
Haha! Ignore my question. Moment of tiredness. Yes, the LTQ itself says to Master the map.... duh

Shinazueli
03-27-2013, 05:06 PM
Winstrol!!!!!! We love your lists. If you want we can tar and feather that asshat that called you a hacker? Pleaaaaaaaaaaaaseeeeeeee......./

Winstrol
03-27-2013, 05:07 PM
Well , people became so greedy , after 3 LTQ which gave us 150/150k stats ;p so chill

JPFAS
03-27-2013, 05:11 PM
do you think you'll be able to kill 60 in less than 2,5 days?

First level is 60 mobs with 315 energy each so that is 60 X 315 = 18900 energy = 6300 minutes = 105 hours = 4,375 days so NO it is not possible to finish level 1 for free. Even if you set an alarm every 30 minutes and babysit your phone it would take you more than 3 days just to finish level 1.

Finishing level 5 will take at least 5 mountains of gems.

spectra
03-27-2013, 05:13 PM
BEWARE!!!!!!!!!.......This LTQ is designed to make mid and low level players level up like crazy, for most of these players it will take at LEAST 3 HITS to KILL the WOLF which is the monsters that only takes 91 energy per hit, AND the ones that DROPS THE LEAST XP AT 100 xp per hit for a total of 300 XPs per kill, times 60 of them just for level 1 is a total of 18,000 experience points
level 2 map would mean 120 monsters * 300 xp per monsters = 36,000 experience gain
level 3 map 180 monsters = 54,000 xps
level 4 map 240 monsters = 72,000 xps
level 5 map 300 monsters = 90,000 xps

total XPs gain if completed "normal mode" 270,000 experience points, which means QUITE A FEW LEVELS UP

FORGOT TO MENTION THAT EVEN IF THE MONSTER DO NOT HIT YOU BACK, YOU WILL NEED A TOTAL OF 91 PER HIT * 3 = 273 PLUS THEY HIT YOU BACK 2 TIMES AT 21 EACH FOR 42,
THUS EVERY KILL = 315 ENERGY PER KILL AND
TO KILL 900 MONSTERS WILL BE (900 * 315) = 283,500 ENERGY ........ (

Shinazueli
03-27-2013, 05:14 PM
Yeah most of us have already realized that. The question is if the rewards are good enough to do it anyway, or to spend. Probably not, but we're wondering.

Winstrol
03-27-2013, 05:14 PM
First level is 60 mobs with 315 energy each so that is 60 X 315 = 18900 energy = 6300 minutes = 105 hours = 4,375 days so NO it is not possible to finish level 1 for free. Even if you set an alarm every 30 minutes and babysit your phone it would take you more than 3 days just to finish level 1.

Finishing level 5 will take at least 5 mountains of gems.
I can kill with 2 hits , so it will cost me around 3 mountains .

jonny0284
03-27-2013, 05:15 PM
First level is 60 mobs with 315 energy each so that is 60 X 315 = 18900 energy = 6300 minutes = 105 hours = 4,375 days so NO it is not possible to finish level 1 for free. Even if you set an alarm every 30 minutes and babysit your phone it would take you more than 3 days just to finish level 1.

Finishing level 5 will take at least 5 mountains of gems.

The only thing you didn't account for was the player's Hero Strength & weapon. So some may 2 hit, most will 3 hit. ;)

Energy conservation, sir. It's what the strong call...


...being awesome.

Dark knight
03-27-2013, 05:16 PM
how much skills do you have girl

Shinazueli
03-27-2013, 05:17 PM
If if costs Winstrol 3 mountains I'm out. The unit would have to perform favors that are NSFW to be worth it for me.

jonny0284
03-27-2013, 05:17 PM
how much skills do you have girl

LOL, who you referring to as "girl"??? ;)

Perfuzzie
03-27-2013, 05:18 PM
how much skills do you have girl


winstrol i think that was for u :))

Shinazueli
03-27-2013, 05:19 PM
LOL, who you referring to as "girl"??? ;)

I wasn't goin to say anything Johnny, but you had an accident last night, involving a large meat cleaver and a jealous ex, and we wiped your memory of it. Real sorry about that.

JPFAS
03-27-2013, 05:19 PM
The only thing you didn't account for was the player's Hero Strength & weapon. So some may 2 hit, most will 3 hit. ;)

Energy conservation, sir. It's what the strong call...


...being awesome.

You're absolutely right. Still 3 mountains instead of 5, as stated by Winstrol. It's all a question of knowing what the prizes are to make a decision but for that, someone has to finish it first.

jonny0284
03-27-2013, 05:20 PM
I wasn't goin to say anything Johnny, but you had an accident last night, and we wiped your memory of it. Real sorry about that.

LOL. *checking...

Winstrol
03-27-2013, 05:21 PM
The prize starts with letter V and ends with A ;p

SoccerStud
03-27-2013, 05:21 PM
The prize starts with letter V and ends with A ;p
Damn it, another vallata?

Perfuzzie
03-27-2013, 05:22 PM
valata ?:)

spectra
03-27-2013, 05:22 PM
The prize starts with letter V and ends with A ;p

can I tell them the color of the unit :rolleyes:

Shinazueli
03-27-2013, 05:23 PM
No, it's the Latin word for "sheath" that Johnny now has....

Shinazueli
03-27-2013, 05:25 PM
can I tell them the color of the unit :rolleyes:

Is it pink? :)

jonny0284
03-27-2013, 05:26 PM
No, it's the Latin word for "sheath" that Johnny now has....

LMAO. Wit! Because it fits!

Winstrol
03-27-2013, 05:26 PM
I'm pretty pissed off , that they didnt added new armors and weapons in that map .

Shinazueli
03-27-2013, 05:28 PM
LMAO. Wit! Because it fits!
Yeah he threw me a softball and I just had to go for it.

SoccerStud
03-27-2013, 05:29 PM
I'm pretty pissed off , that they didnt added new armors and weapons in that map .
That's the only reason...?

Winstrol
03-27-2013, 05:31 PM
That's the only reason...?
Yeah , that equipments doesn't increase my stats at all :(

Sportsgrunt
03-27-2013, 05:34 PM
i think i will sit this one out i'll watch my energy bar be full for a few days after seeing it empty for 2 weeks. lol

Dirt road Joe
03-27-2013, 05:35 PM
I would love to work on this quest! But i opened the app. then the splash screen appeared. so i got excited and went to the map. It loaded up and i looked at the stats of all the enemies. I then decided to attack a bear and i hit it 3 times and killed it. But right after that the game severely crashed and now i cant even open the game! Im in the process of Re-installing it. I hope it fixes the problem I would like to get at least level 1 mastery done! I Hate Bugs...

spectra
03-27-2013, 05:45 PM
I would love to work on this quest! But i opened the app. then the splash screen appeared. so i got excited and went to the map. It loaded up and i looked at the stats of all the enemies. I then decided to attack a bear and i hit it 3 times and killed it. But right after that the game severely crashed and now i cant even open the game! Im in the process of Re-installing it. I hope it fixes the problem I would like to get at least level 1 mastery done! I Hate Bugs...

you killed the bear with 3 hits (wolf only takes 91 energy, better target) to get all 60 monsters at level one, you will need over 18,000 energy, get ready to use some gems for refills

cheers

Dirt road Joe
03-27-2013, 05:47 PM
you killed the bear with 3 hits (wolf only takes 91 energy, better target) to get all 60 monsters at level one, you will need over 18,000 energy, get ready to use some gems for refills

cheers

Yep im mad... I killed a bear and the game crashed... I had to reinstall. Well, my game didnt register i killed the bear for map mastery. But the my energy bar felt it. What a waist. One less bear i can kill for free...

GreenGuru
03-27-2013, 05:54 PM
The prize starts with letter V and ends with A ;p

Viagra or Vanilla? :p

spectra
03-27-2013, 05:58 PM
Viagra or Vanilla? :p

warm..warm...........WARM............ :confused:

LordB
03-27-2013, 06:01 PM
Is this just set up so the people at gree can snigger amongst themselves at how many $$ they can wring out of Thorrodin?!

Intan jabrut
03-27-2013, 06:22 PM
This LTQ is amazing... we have to spend cash $300 - $600 to finish this LTQ.

Zenobia
03-27-2013, 07:06 PM
I totally agree with the challenge, and that they've given maybe a little to much away. But not even being able to finish 1 part without having to pay? That makes no sense and drives free players away. It always was a pay to win game and that was great. But now its slowly morphing into a pay to play game, and those always die very quickly.

With every attempt by Gree to squeeze yet more $$$ out of each challenge, I am more and more turned off to the game. Well, not to the game overall, not to the point of leaving the game. It's more like, I think I'm going to convert to a free player now. If it had continued at paying for a couple hundred gems to be able to finish an LTE, they would have continued to get that $$$ out of me. But by escalating the cost to finish each LTE, all they will succeed in doing is finding the breaking point of each of us.

Mine is here.

I think I'll use the money I was setting aside for a Mountain of Gems the next time there is a sale on some new shoes instead. I'll wear them and smile instead of feel cheated.

Thank goodness for the introduction of guilds to the game. That is the good more than counter-balancing the bad, enough to definitely keep me in the game, albeit free from now on when my current gems and those I can get for free are gone. If it weren't for the introductions of guilds, leading me to start to really get to know some really awesome people, I'd be disgusted enough with the GreeD to quit. Long live MoC rage!

Q-Ball
03-27-2013, 07:09 PM
:( Damn new people and their blatant jumping to conclusions

They must all have that Jump to Conclusions Mat...

GreenGuru
03-27-2013, 07:16 PM
They must all have that Jump to Conclusions Mat...

hahahah, anyone that doesn't get this reference has been missing out :D

Ratma2001
03-27-2013, 07:21 PM
Well after reading the first 9 pages, I am adamant that I will not participate in this event given a Valatta as prize is useless to me for the cost ! I will save my gems thanks and won't be getting anymore, job done Gree ! Why would I want to level up that high for a measly Valatta? If people wish to go for it good luck, the bank will be sad you are taking money out and Gree will be happy having money IN...take from the poor give to the rich ! Irish Robin Hood, ( no offense to the Irish) ... Sorry to hear about the Tackle Jonny ! I suppose the door swings both ways now ... Haha

Shinazueli
03-27-2013, 07:35 PM
It's ok. Maybe they realized blowing up the stats was a bad idea. I'm not greedy, that's ok.

echus14
03-27-2013, 07:47 PM
I just done level 1 , 4 to go ;p but I don't think that I'll complete it.

<Eyes Wide Wide> If Winstrol is saying that he may not master level 5, what hope for 95% of the KA players? <shakes head>.

This looks like something that was clubbed together in a rush. Basically, "Please occupy yourselves with this and don't bother us whilst we work on the Guild event". The main upside is its paying a good gold return which will help your guild.

GI Jane
03-27-2013, 07:51 PM
2 days to complete a nearly impossible task without spending ~$100 of real money? no thank you. I've played this entire game fairly well without spending a penny. Not going to start now.

Anybody else also realize that you can now changed your name in the game... for 50 gems!! Sounds to me like GREE has taken over Funzio and turned into GREE-dy!

Dracos
03-27-2013, 07:55 PM
This sucks for me because I 2 hit the mobs about 20% of the time but the other 80% I'm leaving 5 to 22 hp. Spending 91-95 energy +the 21-23ca for 22 hp sucks.
Do you guys think that doing this for the drops and gear is worth LVLing up.(I don't have a problem LVLing up) I like lvling up duing a Energy LTQ to get that boost, here its seems like a waste since I'm not going to finish it.

Intan jabrut
03-27-2013, 08:12 PM
Well after reading the first 9 pages, I am adamant that I will not participate in this event given a Valatta as prize is useless to me for the cost !

I agree with you... If the prize is fire broodmother not valatta & grand prize is helios the reborn, I will consider it. LOL

Gambit12
03-27-2013, 08:18 PM
see picture, you need to kill 900 monsters at a cost of 315 enery per kill (based on a 3 hits kill) for a total of 283,500 energy or the equivalent of 295 refills at 20 gems per refill = 5,900 gems (you will need less if you can kill the monster with less than 3 hits)

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd299/spectra69/photo-72.png


The Grand Prize looks awesome but i'm sitting this one out. I'll just try for free this time on how far i can go. My estimation to finish all the way is 3 to 5 mountains of gem. Its way too much for this awesome unit...:p:mad:

Dirt road Joe
03-27-2013, 08:20 PM
Anybody else also realize that you can now changed your name in the game... for 50 gems!! Sounds to me like GREE has taken over Funzio and turned into GREE-dy!
I would just like to post some math i did. i sent 2 tickets within the last week and the difference in ticket I.D. numbers was 13918. that was within 6 days. so i did math and guess they could be recieving about 2300 emails a day reporting bugs/name changes/ complaints. So seeing that number i decided that cutting out name change tickets and making them automated was completely fair. Because not only do they have to read approx. 2300 emails a day, but they have to answer the questions and diagnose any problems. Just my opinion.

But with this LTQ i decided i am not even going to touch it. Im still at the stage where i want to make my lower 100s level last as long as it can before i take on the big dogs. That way i have a chance to defend myself more.

Angel 2
03-27-2013, 08:23 PM
Dracos - I am pretty sure the drops will still be there after the event... Therefore in my view holding pattern....

Mickeytah
03-27-2013, 08:32 PM
The only thing you didn't account for was the player's Hero Strength & weapon. So some may 2 hit, most will 3 hit. ;)

Energy conservation, sir. It's what the strong call...


...being awesome.

I just call it being me.

Ruston
03-27-2013, 09:18 PM
This cant be proper...
Atleast not in the old mastery style..
1st of 5 is lvl 1 mastery kill 60.. But they cant possibly have the remaining 4 to be continueos mastery of barrens cause it would be like 60 + 120 +180 + 240 + 300... 900 mobs?... I have done 5 1/2 now on a full energy bar and i am speced for this kindof stuff.
I guess i could take out 3 on a 1000refill.. That would mean about 300 refills at 20 gems each.. Wich puts the tab at 6000 gems..

I sincerely hope the questline swap track after the first 60

GreenGuru
03-27-2013, 09:20 PM
The Grand Prize looks awesome but i'm sitting this one out. I'll just try for free this time on how far i can go. My estimation to finish all the way is 3 to 5 mountains of gem. Its way too much for this awesome unit...:p:mad:

I don't understand why he's levitating a strangely shaped rock in that fire, lol. Maybe the rock pissed him off :D

GreenGuru
03-27-2013, 09:22 PM
Anybody else also realize that you can now changed your name in the game... for 50 gems!! Sounds to me like GREE has taken over Funzio and turned into GREE-dy!

It seems to me like a lot of people never payed any attention to the sticky that mentioned this game change would be available. It was there for like 2 months though

Silent follower
03-27-2013, 10:52 PM
Note that to hit the Stone Clan Warrior you need to own 18 Contemplators Robes for 8,300 gold each, while to hit the Stone Clan Shamen, you need to own 15 Mail Crushers for 18,000 gold each. If you don't have them, you need to spend over 300k gold for buying all the needed items...

From the Steppe Wolves I got as a drop Dwarven Runic Spellbook, with 32/22 a/d.

I think I am going to pass this one, it is not worth the effort.

Gree player
03-27-2013, 11:29 PM
Note that to hit the Stone Clan Warrior you need to own 18 Contemplators Robes for 8,300 gold each, while to hit the Stone Clan Shamen, you need to own 15 Mail Crushers for 18,000 gold each. If you don't have them, you need to spend over 300k gold for buying all the needed items...

From the Steppe Wolves I got as a drop Dwarven Runic Spellbook, with 32/22 a/d.

I think I am going to pass this one, it is not worth the effort.

Ordinary drop from this quest. What a shame. I am going to pass.

Seryna
03-27-2013, 11:38 PM
Yes finally an LTQ I can sit out. Was starting to worry that I was leveling too fast and might hit whale territory before getting my bd10. Now I can just camp for a bit.

Ruston
03-28-2013, 12:05 AM
*cough* isnt "Barrens" like.. a name from WOW anyhoo?

Kingdom53
03-28-2013, 12:06 AM
This has gotta be Aprile Fool...

Kjctnorris
03-28-2013, 12:17 AM
Meh, GREE was inflating stats too much anyway. Guys who spent months getting a BD10 and not participating fully in a month of LTQs have been doubled up in stats by people with a BD6. I actually feel kind of bad for those guys.

However, I will admit, they did go to the opposite extreme with this one. Maybe I'll just do level one.

-OP-
03-28-2013, 12:26 AM
killed 3 for 1 full energy bar. 57 to go. Going to pass on this one.

So I did the math and this is what it comes out to PROVIDED YOU NRVER GET HIT IN RETURN. 92 points for the small guys on the first level x 3 hits each comes to 276. 60 mobs to master the first level brings it up to 16,560. Replenish at 3 per minute.... 5,520 minutes or 92 hours. Of course this means playing through the nights and not wasting any energy and NEVER getting hit. Time for quest. 48 hours. Does anyone else see a problem here?

Oh wait you might be "One bad.... Shut your mouth" and kill a monster with one hit. That would bring it down to 30.6 hours. Yeah it is one mean money pit unless I'm missing something.

Silent follower
03-28-2013, 12:28 AM
Ordinary drop from this quest. What a shame. I am going to pass.

Yes they are, but still they are better than the armor/weapon drops from the Bound for Honor LTQ ;)

Pophai
03-28-2013, 01:08 AM
Once again GREE managed to dissapoint me.

Worst LTQ I can remember, Im out.

Ratma2001
03-28-2013, 01:08 AM
Yes they are, but still they are better than the armor/weapon drops from the Bound for Honor LTQ ;)

Unless you have BOW everything else is crap and not worth it! Honestly 32a for that....umm yer rite ! Save your gems it ain't worth it ! Going by all the responses, I mean even Winny candy do it !! That saying BIG forget it!

Mickeytah
03-28-2013, 01:34 AM
I know I'm not going to beat the whole thing, but I know I can at least complete step 1. To me, Vallata is worth it and I want a third one.

To be honest, I don't understand the whole "If I can't finish it then I'm not going to start it" mentality that seems to be prevalent.

GreenGuru
03-28-2013, 02:08 AM
*cough* isnt "Barrens" like.. a name from WOW anyhoo?

Um, no. It would have originally derived from the term referring to a barren land.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/barrens

Maybe there is something in that game by the name but it is not at all exclusive to it nor came from it.

Ratma2001
03-28-2013, 02:31 AM
To be honest, I don't understand the whole "If I can't finish it then I'm not going to start it" mentality that seems to be prevalent.

It's the whole jumping vast/Huge amounts of levels that go with it ! I.e level 96 would take at least 4 levels to finish area 1 that puts you into Hard Boss Event territory ! Or at my level as it is some level 200 can see down to 147 why stick your neck out for Vallata! Most already have 2 , so for most No its not worth starting ...you have to work out where you'll finish if you do? For me it's not worth starting to level so many times to get another 2K unit...too dangerous! And way too expensive to complete the lot!

Ruston
03-28-2013, 02:49 AM
Um, no. It would have originally derived from the term referring to a barren land.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/barrens

Maybe there is something in that game by the name but it is not at all exclusive to it nor came from it.

Naah,daddy still says ripoff*

The difference is specific/unspecific name.

As an example "darkness" is not a new word, neither is "prince".. but try to make a career in the musicindustry as a popstar and call yourself "the" prince of darkness and see if Ozzy+fans wants to sing a duet;)

jonny0284
03-28-2013, 04:08 AM
Anyone pay attention to Spectra getting banned? :confused:

Jixx
03-28-2013, 04:11 AM
Anyone pay attention to Spectra getting banned? :confused:

whut?

why?

jonny0284
03-28-2013, 04:13 AM
Not sure, but his posts in this thread could have been a bit...much? Maybe?

Jixx
03-28-2013, 04:20 AM
well, i'd say Spectra's was a proper reaction to a "oh you want an event? sure, that'd be 100$ for 1 reward we used to give out for free" type event.

Ruston
03-28-2013, 04:26 AM
Banned is so 2012...

Winstrol
03-28-2013, 04:50 AM
You people became more greedy than GREE is . Your LTQ expectations are much higher than before , so great changed LTQ prizes and so boxes prizes in the game . Go and check it , they lowered stats of those units as well . I guess no more 50/50 LTQs

Jixx
03-28-2013, 04:53 AM
You people became more greedy than GREE is . Your LTQ expectations are much higher than before , so great changed LTQ prizes and so boxes prizes in the game . Go and check it , they lowered stats of those units as well . I guess no more 50/50 LTQs

maybe we have. But again i say, a LTQ where it is IMPOSSIBLE to receive ANY reward for free is NOT the way to go.

jonny0284
03-28-2013, 04:57 AM
maybe we have. But again i say, a LTQ where it is IMPOSSIBLE to receive ANY reward for free is NOT the way to go.


So, we're all entitled to something [for free] every time, eh?

Winstrol
03-28-2013, 05:04 AM
maybe we have. But again i say, a LTQ where it is IMPOSSIBLE to receive ANY reward for free is NOT the way to go.
It's like box event , do you have a chance to get for free top1 unit ? No , top 50 unit ? No , top 250 unit ? No.

jonny0284
03-28-2013, 05:14 AM
It's like box event , do you have a chance to get for free top1 unit ? No , top 50 unit ? No , top 250 unit ? No.

LOL, Winny, people just want their consolation prizes. :p Oh, and they don't want to spend money for them. Is that too much to ask?

Muddy
03-28-2013, 05:16 AM
You people became more greedy than GREE is . Your LTQ expectations are much higher than before , so great changed LTQ prizes and so boxes prizes in the game . Go and check it , they lowered stats of those units as well . I guess no more 50/50 LTQs I guess too. What about new players? Players with 400k a/d, bd5-8 and iph <10k look a little bit strange. Fo new players we are all cheaters.

JPFAS
03-28-2013, 05:20 AM
LOL, Winny, people just want their consolation prizes. :p Oh, and they don't want to spend money for them. Is that too much to ask?

I don't see it that way Jonny. There's a basic fact of life: people want value for money. I'm willing to pay a lot for a big bump in my stats. I understand I won't be getting it for free. But I'm not willing to pay a lot for a small increase in my stats. Not worth the money. So it's not if you want everything for free, it's if you get enough value for your money.

This event sucks. You have to pay a fortune only to have 'not much better than average' prizes. It crosses the line. Not worth it.

jonny0284
03-28-2013, 05:23 AM
it's if you get enough value for your money.

So a lot of free players got past (N) and made it into (H)? That's a hell of a lot of value for...nothing. But these are the same players that are complaining when it comes to spending a bit and only separating themselves further from the crowd.

I just don't get it. The past 2 LTQ's gave so much benefit and now that they are over; it's like they never existed and people are in the streets screaming for MORE, more, MORE.

Ruston
03-28-2013, 05:27 AM
All that aside... now with the huge flow of money that gree collects from this moneymachine, couldnt they put some more efforts into touch and feeling to atleast make it appear its other things than just excess reaping of funds that is the driving force behind keeping the game running?.

JPFAS
03-28-2013, 05:30 AM
So a lot of free players got past (N) and made it into (H)? That's a hell of a lot of value for...nothing. But these are the same players that are complaining when it comes to spending a bit and only separating themselves further from the crowd.

I just don't get it. The past 2 LTQ's gave so much benefit and now that they are over; it's like they never existed and people are in the streets screaming for MORE, more, MORE.

I understand your point, but I still think it's all a question of finding the right balance. Going from one extreme to the other in back-to-back events it's a bit crazy.

piercemenow1
03-28-2013, 06:01 AM
Crazy hard!! Looks like another money spinner!!!

Deebo
03-28-2013, 07:13 AM
So a lot of free players got past (N) and made it into (H)? That's a hell of a lot of value for...nothing. But these are the same players that are complaining when it comes to spending a bit and only separating themselves further from the crowd.

I just don't get it. The past 2 LTQ's gave so much benefit and now that they are over; it's like they never existed and people are in the streets screaming for MORE, more, MORE.

I'm glad that they give higher level players incentives to want to play, like Barrens Mastery, but I wish they could implement something for lower level players too. An event with the same rewards but lesser stats can't be that difficult to put together. I don't want to rush just to open up all the maps, and get farmed for weeks cause my stats suck, but at the same time I don't want to sit around for a week and not have a "chance" to better my stats same as higher leveled players. I'm all for rewarding those that have been dedicated and put in more time, energy, and money than newer players, but seems something could have been done to include all players.

Gmoney24
03-28-2013, 07:16 AM
I know it's probably too late, but the new limited time quest is not showing up in my game. I tried resetting the app several times, transferring from iPad to iPhone and back, uninstalling and reinstalling and nothing worked. Can someone please help. Gree are you out there?

jonny0284
03-28-2013, 07:29 AM
Ok, here's how I'm going to explain this:

I am level 151 with 168 Hero Strength & Cupid's Bow 85. I hit each of the weakest enemies in newest LTQ for roughly 200-255. I have to triple hit (91 energy per hit + 21 dmg counter) them to kill them at their HP of ~470 and I can kill 5 with an energy bar of 1,600.

Let's use you now. You're level 34, let's assume your Hero Strength is 45 and your best weapon is 25. You have an energy bar that is probably ~600. So you can muster in maybe 4 hits of let's say 60? You have taken down half of their energy and used practically your whole energy bar.

Here's how this gets played out:

1. Would you be willing to spend 5x the Gems if not more than me to finish? Yes, 5x.
2. Would you call this unfair on the forum because it's not tailored to you?
3. Would you accept this explanation as the basis for why you don't have access to the LTQ, since it alleviates all headaches from Gree Support over whining that "it's too tough".

Seriously. This isn't hard to figure out.

Deebo
03-28-2013, 07:30 AM
I know it's probably too late, but the new limited time quest is not showing up in my game. I tried resetting the app several times, transferring from iPad to iPhone and back, uninstalling and reinstalling and nothing worked. Can someone please help. Gree are you out there?

You must meet a minimum level requirement, not sure what level you are but could be not high enough to participate. I'm in the same boat and guessing you need to be at least level 58.

Deebo
03-28-2013, 07:48 AM
Ok, here's how I'm going to explain this:

I am level 151 with 168 Hero Strength & Cupid's Bow 85. I hit each of the weakest enemies in newest LTQ for roughly 200-255. I have to triple hit (91 energy per hit + 21 dmg counter) them to kill them at their HP of ~470 and I can kill 5 with an energy bar of 1,600.

Let's use you now. You're level 34, let's assume your Hero Strength is 45 and your best weapon is 25. You have an energy bar that is probably ~600. So you can muster in maybe 4 hits of let's say 60? You have taken down half of their energy and used practically your whole energy bar.

Here's how this gets played out:

1. Would you be willing to spend 5x the Gems if not more than me to finish? Yes, 5x.
2. Would you call this unfair on the forum because it's not tailored to you?
3. Would you accept this explanation as the basis for why you don't have access to the LTQ, since it alleviates all headaches from Gree Support over whining that "it's too tough".

Seriously. This isn't hard to figure out.

I completely agree Jonny, and would never be so foolish as to think I want to compete with finishing such a difficult LTQ at level 34. That said, I still want to compete at something. Just because I'm at level 34 doesn't mean I'm not willing to invest just as much time, effort, and money to better my characters stats, but I have nothing to work on. Be nice if while high leveled players work hard at completing Barrens Mastery, maybe players in the 40s could be working on Dwarven Mines Mastery, something, anything. I'm not asking to compete with higher level players, I'm asking for Gree to be more inclusive when designing a LTQ so that a greater number of players can participate.

Mickeytah
03-28-2013, 07:49 AM
It's the whole jumping vast/Huge amounts of levels that go with it ! I.e level 96 would take at least 4 levels to finish area 1 that puts you into Hard Boss Event territory ! Or at my level as it is some level 200 can see down to 147 why stick your neck out for Vallata! Most already have 2 , so for most No its not worth starting ...you have to work out where you'll finish if you do? For me it's not worth starting to level so many times to get another 2K unit...too dangerous! And way too expensive to complete the lot!

I understand your point, Ratma. I'm at level 141 now and I want to level up. I don't want to spend time worrying about level 200s coming after me. I want to be one of those level 200s everyone fears, not one of the people who fear the level 200s. I want the HS that comes with leveling up so I can max out my damage in PvE during LTQs and go further in each one and get as many indestuctible units from them as possible.


Ok, here's how I'm going to explain this:

I am level 151 with 168 Hero Strength & Cupid's Bow 85. I hit each of the weakest enemies in newest LTQ for roughly 200-255. I have to triple hit (91 energy per hit + 21 dmg counter) them to kill them at their HP of ~470 and I can kill 5 with an energy bar of 1,600.

Let's use you now. You're level 34, let's assume your Hero Strength is 45 and your best weapon is 25. You have an energy bar that is probably ~600. So you can muster in maybe 4 hits of let's say 60? You have taken down half of their energy and used practically your whole energy bar.

Here's how this gets played out:

1. Would you be willing to spend 5x the Gems if not more than me to finish? Yes, 5x.
2. Would you call this unfair on the forum because it's not tailored to you?
3. Would you accept this explanation as the basis for why you don't have access to the LTQ, since it alleviates all headaches from Gree Support over whining that "it's too tough".

Seriously. This isn't hard to figure out.

Jonny posting the Mathematical smackdown! I don't know if I should be proud or just call you a nerd.

I'm proud of you, you big nerd!

jonny0284
03-28-2013, 07:51 AM
I completely agree Jonny, and would never be so foolish as to think I want to compete with finishing such a difficult LTQ at level 34. That said, I still want to compete at something. Just because I'm at level 34 doesn't mean I'm not willing to invest just as much time, effort, and money to better my characters stats, but I have nothing to work on. Be nice if while high leveled players work hard at completing Barrens Mastery, maybe players in the 40s could be working on Dwarven Mines Mastery, something, anything. I'm not asking to compete with higher level players, I'm asking for Gree to be more inclusive when designing a LTQ so that a greater number if players can participate.

If you'd like to go master Dwarven Mines then do it. You will get a good unit for your level.

I didn't have LTQ's when I was your level. But, just like kids in todays society...go find something to do; Gree doesn't have to direct your goals and path. Improvise, you don't need a LTQ or if you really want it, then swim up the [level] stream and join us.

Q-Ball
03-28-2013, 07:55 AM
I understand your point, but I still think it's all a question of finding the right balance. Going from one extreme to the other in back-to-back events it's a bit crazy.


I'm glad that they give higher level players incentives to want to play, like Barrens Mastery, but I wish they could implement something for lower level players too. An event with the same rewards but lesser stats can't be that difficult to put together. I don't want to rush just to open up all the maps, and get farmed for weeks cause my stats suck, but at the same time I don't want to sit around for a week and not have a "chance" to better my stats same as higher leveled players. I'm all for rewarding those that have been dedicated and put in more time, energy, and money than newer players, but seems something could have been done to include all players.

It's quite obvious they will NEVER make everyone happy and there is no happy medium LTQ. People need to just realize that it is what it is, no one said you have to participate in ALL LTQ's. Pick the ones you like, go as far as you can and are willing to do so. They've made "easy" LTQ's and they've made "difficult" ones. You do what you can. get what you can out of it, if you don't like it move on. I've completed a couple on Heroic free and i've done a couple where i spent a few gems, cause it was fun to me. I'm not doing this one cause the payoff isn't worth the effort for me. I'll wait for Guild Wars and then the next LTQ might be something I like better. so be it.

Winstrol
03-28-2013, 07:59 AM
http://img.myepicwall.com/i/2013/03/a83c05648b557d3c0c6e0bea2e885420.gif?1364380990

jonny0284
03-28-2013, 08:05 AM
^ Perfect.

Simple and blunt.

Mickeytah
03-28-2013, 08:08 AM
^ Perfect.

Simple and blunt.

Simple and blunt. Just like you, Jonny. Haha

jonny0284
03-28-2013, 08:12 AM
Mickey, you have a Manticore on your crest.

The softest and most uninspiring creature in KA that drives no one to fear. Bravo. A muppet baby would be more sinister.

;)

Battle Mage
03-28-2013, 08:19 AM
Wait there! I'm just getting some popcorn... ;-)

Jixx
03-28-2013, 08:36 AM
It's like box event , do you have a chance to get for free top1 unit ? No , top 50 unit ? No , top 250 unit ? No.

i never made it that far and that was fine. I at least got some usable units (I dont have dragons yet) most of you wouldnt be able to use in your armies anyways. And yes we are somewhat entitled to something for free. Just because we dont have the money to spend on this and instead put a little more time and effort into becoming where we are. I always participated in the box event, knowing i was never going to reach the top 250. And why? because i needed to increase my stats even a little because otherwise i'd be overshadowed.

But enough on the downsides of this LTQ, upside is that the people near my stats who dont spend gems dumb enough to try it go overvault very fast and buy me some hydra's. Great.

Willis III
03-28-2013, 08:44 AM
Ok, here's how I'm going to explain this:

I am level 151 with 168 Hero Strength & Cupid's Bow 85. I hit each of the weakest enemies in newest LTQ for roughly 200-255. I have to triple hit (91 energy per hit + 21 dmg counter) them to kill them at their HP of ~470 and I can kill 5 with an energy bar of 1,600.

Let's use you now. You're level 34, let's assume your Hero Strength is 45 and your best weapon is 25. You have an energy bar that is probably ~600. So you can muster in maybe 4 hits of let's say 60? You have taken down half of their energy and used practically your whole energy bar.

Here's how this gets played out:

1. Would you be willing to spend 5x the Gems if not more than me to finish? Yes, 5x.
2. Would you call this unfair on the forum because it's not tailored to you?
3. Would you accept this explanation as the basis for why you don't have access to the LTQ, since it alleviates all headaches from Gree Support over whining that "it's too tough".

Seriously. This isn't hard to figure out.

It has officially been brought.

KAPOOYAH!

jonny0284
03-28-2013, 08:46 AM
And yes we are somewhat entitled to something for free.

You almost had me, until I read that.

Sorry, man, I'll let you argue your point but I won't reply to your comments on this thread anymore. We just don't see eye to eye and differ in our views.

I don't believe anyone is entitled to anything [for free] in this game. Or life for that matter.

Jixx
03-28-2013, 08:53 AM
You almost had me, until I read that.

Sorry, man, I'll let you argue your point but I won't reply to your comments on this thread anymore. We just don't see eye to eye and differ in our views.

I don't believe anyone is entitled to anything in this game. Or life for that matter.

before you skip this, please consider replying.

I phrased my point wrongly, i shouldnt have said entitled. What i ment is that Gree has an awesome game, and if they want to make sure people will keep playing KA then they should make events partially finishable for free, and possibly even fully for free, if you happen to be level 200 with all points into HS and a cupids bow+ best armor.

Maybe you're right, and ive just grown attached to free stuff. But free stuff is what draws new players and keep players here, except for the constant stat inflation they had a good thing going here, from a business point of view.

Erick13
03-28-2013, 08:59 AM
I don't believe anyone is entitled to anything [for free] in this game. Or life for that matter.

I couldn't agree more with you on this.

Is this event too hard for some people? Yes, but other events have been much easier. Like it was said before Gree can't make everyone happy every time.

jonny0284
03-28-2013, 09:00 AM
I phrased my point wrongly, i shouldnt have said entitled. What i ment is that Gree has an awesome game, and if they want to make sure people will keep playing KA then they should make events partially finishable for free, and possibly even fully for free, if you happen to be level 200 with all points into HS and a cupids bow+ best armor.

Some players are finishing the first free and working through 2nd with not a lot of Gems, yet. But, is that unfair? Because they are higher level than others, their stats are better? Because, I bet that would be another chief complaint. There's no satisfying every player. But, it's fair. It is 100% fair.


Maybe you're right, and ive just grown attached to free stuff. But free stuff is what draws new players and keep players here, except for the constant stat inflation they had a good thing going here, from a business point of view.

Free stuff? Scratch tickets. Every morning. There's your free swag. I didn't have that for nearly 8 months. Now some players have that edge, too. What more do players want? To start a game with full allies? Have all buildings laid out? Max capacity vault? E-a-r-n your keep.

I won't even complain about scratch off tickets. Why? Because my level 18 account has an indestructible army. Yeah. It's almost 100% and I won't level until I have enough to cover the increase. Feel me? That's strategy. I bet some players will cry when I start laying down the bin'ess.

Jixx
03-28-2013, 09:10 AM
Some players are finishing the first and working through 2nd with not a lot of Gems, yet. But, is that unfair? Because they are higher level than others, their stats are better? Because, I bet that would be another chief complaint. There's no satisfying every player. But, it's fair. It is 100% fair.



Free stuff? Scratch tickets. Every morning. There's your free swag. I didn't have that for nearly 8 months. Now some players have that edge, too. What more do players want? To start a game with full allies? Have all buildings laid out? Max capacity vault? E-a-r-n your keep.

I won't even complain about scratch off tickets. Why? Because my level 18 account has an indestructible army. Yeah. It's almost 100% and I won't level until I have enough to cover the increase. Feel me? That's strategy. I bet some players will cry when I start laying down the bin'ess.

not complaining about scratch tickets, those are quite awesome. I didnt have LTQ's for the first 3 months or so either. The only reason im complaining about this LTQ is because for me, at level 110 with 111 HS its nearly impossible to finish the first level, only because im not in a position to purchase gems. And of course you wont satisfy every player completely, but most LTQ's upto now made sure even at the lowest level limit for the LTQ you could get a reward. Wouldnt be much, but at least you got something. And if you were a low level player, the solution was simple. Level up. If you dont want to, thats fine but then you dont get LTQ rewards. Now the solution is pay money. Well i simply cant afford to.

jonny0284
03-28-2013, 09:17 AM
not complaining about scratch tickets, those are quite awesome. I didnt have LTQ's for the first 3 months or so either. The only reason im complaining about this LTQ is because for me, at level 110 with 111 HS its nearly impossible to finish the first level, only because im not in a position to purchase gems. And of course you wont satisfy every player completely, but most LTQ's upto now made sure even at the lowest level limit for the LTQ you could get a reward. Wouldnt be much, but at least you got something. And if you were a low level player, the solution was simple. Level up. If you dont want to, thats fine but then you dont get LTQ rewards. Now the solution is pay money. Well i simply cant afford to.

But, that's fine.

You agreed. Your scratch off tickets are your "free gift" so what's left to complain about? LLP can still earn a fantastic unit. Every. Morning. Hell, they can get a whole army of Sky Heralds.

Free Ronin
03-28-2013, 09:58 AM
Jixx, I'm lvl 116 with and HS of 132 and I think if I finish map 1 for free I'll be doing good. If they made it easy for you and me to finish then it would be a matter of prespective because we'd be listening to a level 50 player complaining that its to hard.

Also, they do give loot, I've picked up 2 weapons that are better than any they gave out in the last LTQ in either the normal or heroic mode and ive only dropped 20 of the 60 on the 1st map.

Sludgeboy
03-28-2013, 10:00 AM
All this fuss about a LTQ that GREE squeezed in before WAR!!!

If you don't like it, then don't participate in it.
If you want to try it, then try it. You can always stop.
If you can't see it, then level up a bit to see all events.

Confucius say, "If its too hard, then make it soft"

Q-Ball
03-28-2013, 10:15 AM
not complaining about scratch tickets, those are quite awesome. I didnt have LTQ's for the first 3 months or so either. The only reason im complaining about this LTQ is because for me, at level 110 with 111 HS its nearly impossible to finish the first level, only because im not in a position to purchase gems. And of course you wont satisfy every player completely, but most LTQ's upto now made sure even at the lowest level limit for the LTQ you could get a reward. Wouldnt be much, but at least you got something. And if you were a low level player, the solution was simple. Level up. If you dont want to, thats fine but then you dont get LTQ rewards. Now the solution is pay money. Well i simply cant afford to.

Jixx - but you are getting at least something. There are loot drops everytime you kill a MOB on this LTQ. fairly decent ones too. I think people are getting confused and blaming GREE that they don't somehow know they're customers. They've obviously done their research to see the range of player skills, behaviors and play styles and have created LTQ's as best as possible to suit that. Keep in mind, that we here on the Forums are the vocal minority of the entire KA player pool. If all LTQ's were easy the high level players would be complaining. If they were all hard then low level players would complain. So they go back and forth with easy, medium and hard LTQ's. That's the only way to do it.

Jixx
03-28-2013, 10:18 AM
Jixx - but you are getting at least something. There are loot drops everytime you kill a MOB on this LTQ. fairly decent ones too. I think people are getting confused and blaming GREE that they don't somehow know they're customers. They've obviously done their research to see the range of player skills, behaviors and play styles and have created LTQ's as best as possible to suit that. Keep in mind, that we here on the Forums are the vocal minority of the entire KA player pool. If all LTQ's were easy the high level players would be complaining. If they were all hard then low level players would complain. So they go back and forth with easy, medium and hard LTQ's. That's the only way to do it.

they didnt plan this LTQ, so I think they didnt really think this one through. Hard is fine, I know im not supposed to finish any LTQ and im content with that. But this is too much, not only for me but for the vast majority of KA players.

Q-Ball
03-28-2013, 10:23 AM
they didnt plan this LTQ, so I think they didnt really think this one through. Hard is fine, I know im not supposed to finish any LTQ and im content with that. But this is too much, not only for me but for the vast majority of KA players.

Well we'll never know if they did or didn't plan this one. If so, to us we may call it a strikeout on this LTQ, but to them (without knowing how they measure success) if they earn any money over what they put into it it could be a single or double or home-run. Either way, we agree that it's pretty damn hard.

GreenGuru
03-28-2013, 11:05 AM
Naah,daddy still says ripoff*

The difference is specific/unspecific name.

As an example "darkness" is not a new word, neither is "prince".. but try to make a career in the musicindustry as a popstar and call yourself "the" prince of darkness and see if Ozzy+fans wants to sing a duet;)

Well daddy is wrong, the term Barrens existed long before any computer game. This isn't a matter of opinion, it's a fact of life.. that's history for you

GreenGuru
03-28-2013, 11:07 AM
Anyone pay attention to Spectra getting banned? :confused:

*after reading through 7 new pages brought to you by the Forum Debate Team*

No I didn't notice this. Come to think of it, if spectra got banned for those large bold warning posts, did Gfypiker get banned as well? I haven't seen him ranting on the forums in a while now.

GreenGuru
03-28-2013, 11:10 AM
I know it's probably too late, but the new limited time quest is not showing up in my game. I tried resetting the app several times, transferring from iPad to iPhone and back, uninstalling and reinstalling and nothing worked. Can someone please help. Gree are you out there?

Sorry to triple post this thread but... is it so hard to see that the LTQ is called "Master the Barrens" and then after looking for the map in your maps list... see the level required to go to that map? It just seems like more common sense than anything else here

Winstrol
03-28-2013, 11:20 AM
So hard to edit post huh ?

Eunuchorn
03-28-2013, 11:27 AM
Ok, here's how I'm going to explain this:

I am level 151 with 168 Hero Strength & Cupid's Bow 85. I hit each of the weakest enemies in newest LTQ for roughly 200-255. I have to triple hit (91 energy per hit + 21 dmg counter) them to kill them at their HP of ~470 and I can kill 5 with an energy bar of 1,600.
Seriously. This isn't hard to figure out.

Hmm. You are 3 shotting them, I'm 4 shotting. Here are my stats:
Lvl 90, 111 Hero Strength
54atk temple spear, 34atk Frozen Armor

Seems broken

Muddy
03-28-2013, 11:28 AM
They will give us one more week for this quest and will move the battle on one week:)

GreenGuru
03-28-2013, 11:30 AM
So hard to edit post huh ?

Meh, I thought they were too irrelevant from each other to include them all in one post

Winstrol
03-28-2013, 11:41 AM
Hmm. You are 3 shotting them, I'm 4 shotting. Here are my stats:
Lvl 90, 111 Hero Strength
54atk temple spear, 34atk Frozen Armor

Seems broken

First level is pretty easy , but once you reach level 3 , you'd probably 5-6 hit them ha

Draconian
03-28-2013, 11:52 AM
LTQs seem to be getting harder and harder :/

[DW] Cap'n

Muddy
03-28-2013, 12:11 PM
LTQs seem to be getting harder and harder :/

not harder, just expensive.

Draconian
03-28-2013, 12:15 PM
not harder, just expansive.

Same thing ;)

Shinazueli
03-28-2013, 12:18 PM
Lol. They have always varied in difficulty. I for one am glad that they have effectively given me a break before the wars start. :)

Muddy
03-28-2013, 12:19 PM
Same thing ;)
No. Harder it is when you have to think, looking for best way, count variations.
Expensive - pay and play get units.

Shinazueli
03-28-2013, 12:19 PM
And you meant expensive.

Muddy
03-28-2013, 12:28 PM
Shinazueli, sure. Thank you. Fixed.

Winstrol
03-28-2013, 01:03 PM
They need make 1 more forum rule :
People that will whine about events will get permanent forum ban .

jonny0284
03-28-2013, 01:08 PM
Hmm. You are 3 shotting them, I'm 4 shotting. Here are my stats:
Lvl 90, 111 Hero Strength
54atk temple spear, 34atk Frozen Armor

Seems broken

It's not broken. I just have to use a whole hit (91 energy) to wrap up 7-24 energy leftover. Every. Time.

---------

But, do you hear me crying? No. ;)

Mickeytah
03-28-2013, 01:20 PM
It's not broken. I just have to use a whole hit (91 energy) to wrap up 7-24 energy leftover. Every. Time.

---------

But, do you hear me crying? No. ;)

It's the same way for me. I've gotten only four two-hit kills so far. It's just slightly annoying to hit for 243 damage than hit for 205 and have to spend 91 energy to hit for 4 damage. I think the range from minimum attack to maximum attack is too much.

a glory a
03-28-2013, 01:46 PM
What happened to PvP events? not had 1 in ages and thats when i come into my element! This event isnt worth taking part in unless you already have that aston martin sat outside your mansion.

Winstrol
03-28-2013, 01:55 PM
What happened to PvP events? not had 1 in ages and thats when i come into my element! This event isnt worth taking part in unless you already have that aston martin sat outside your mansion.
I didn't know that I own a mansion and an Aston Martin :cool:
http://i50.tinypic.com/sphz6a.png

Shinazueli
03-28-2013, 01:56 PM
They stopped doing pvp events because they were too easy to complete free, so they didn't make enough revenue. My guess. They can control how much energy you have, but it's harder to control how much stamina you have.

Shinazueli
03-28-2013, 01:57 PM
I didn't know that I own a mansion and an Aston Martin :cool:
http://i50.tinypic.com/sphz6a.png

Lol Winstrol, you know they are right next to your McDonald's your Olympic sized pool and your own Mount Winstrol-more.

But we still love you for sharing your tasty lists with us lowly peons.

Q-Ball
03-28-2013, 02:00 PM
I didn't know that I own a mansion and an Aston Martin :cool:
http://i50.tinypic.com/sphz6a.png

HAHA. What do you mean you didn't know... rich people lose track of everything they own.

Shinazueli
03-28-2013, 02:02 PM
Oh you meant THAT Aston Martin, that's just a trifle. Silly old boy.

Kingdom53
03-28-2013, 03:40 PM
I cannot believe people actually spend real money on this. Surprise games like this are even legal as they promote gambling behavior. You better off just going to a casino. At least there you can win some real money back. I wonder if anyone who developed a gambling addiction ever try to sue GREE before.

flamingdragon
03-28-2013, 03:42 PM
I cannot believe people actually spend real money on this. Surprise games like this are even legal as they promote gambling behavior. You better off just going to a casino. At least there you can win some real money back. I wonder if anyone who developed a gambling addiction ever try to sue GREE before.
no ones forcing them to do it they are making there own choice

Kjctnorris
03-28-2013, 04:11 PM
Winstrol, what did you get for level 2?

Muddy
03-28-2013, 05:33 PM
Winstrol, looks a little bit strange.
The prickly cactus brought the mice to tears, but they continued to nibble on it.

Mickeytah
03-28-2013, 06:25 PM
What happened to PvP events?

Pretty sure the guild wars count as PvP.

GreenGuru
03-28-2013, 06:32 PM
This thread definitely has a lot of posts for an event so small and menial, and it built up quickly too...
Bound by honor only lasted 15 pages, this one is already at 20 in around 24 hours

Winstrol
03-28-2013, 07:01 PM
This thread definitely has a lot of posts for an event so small and menial, and it built up quickly too...
Bound by honor only lasted 15 pages, this one is already at 20 in around 24 hours
Because 80% of that thread are cry babies .

VVolf
03-28-2013, 07:06 PM
It's because people aren't finding entertainment in the game so they have to make the entertainment themselves on the forum! :D

JoKeRjr
03-28-2013, 07:09 PM
It's because people aren't finding entertainment in the game so they have to make the entertainment themselves on the forum! :D

Astute observation.

Mickeytah
03-28-2013, 08:06 PM
Because 80% of that thread are cry babies .

Exactly. More people are willing to post, "This is too hard!" than "I'm really enjoying this."

Ninjasasquatch
03-28-2013, 08:27 PM
Where is like on this forum? Sometimes I don't have time to type!

Ratma2001
03-28-2013, 09:54 PM
Congrats Winstrol on the unit! Did you sleep at all in last 24hrs ? Haha , interesting reading all the posts , gosh can't wait till tomorrow, then it will be all quiet round here .......finally !

garen argon
03-28-2013, 10:21 PM
well...let's see how this goes...non gem user; currently at 39/60 for lvl 1 mastery with almost 26 hours remaining.

Mickeytah
03-28-2013, 11:18 PM
well...let's see how this goes...non gem user; currently at 39/60 for lvl 1 mastery with almost 26 hours remaining.

With careful timing and a little luck, you should be able to get it. I stayed up until 5am last night going into the game every thirty minutes to get off an attack. I had today off from work so I was able to focus solely on KA and continuing to go in every thirty minutes to attack. I'm now close to getting it done.

Mickeytah
03-29-2013, 12:03 AM
Has anyone finished 2/5 of this quest? I'm curious if you get another Vallata for finishing it, because I ran across a guy with 4 Vallatas today:

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u656/fnelson0/D89E5C54-5168-4222-BD7D-B1D9E137D5DD-5550-000004D71A1F6130_zps0bd0ba6b.jpg

As far as I know, beating 1/5 is the first chance a person has to get their third Vallata.

Battle Mage
03-29-2013, 12:36 AM
Has anyone finished 2/5 of this quest? I'm curious if you get another Vallata for finishing it, because I ran across a guy with 4 Vallatas today:

As far as I know, beating 1/5 is the first chance a person has to get their third Vallata.

Wasn't it an event prize 6-8 months ago?
I've got two from the recent events.
So, plus one for competing the first level of the Barrens, he could have 4?

Winstrol
03-29-2013, 02:10 AM
Wasn't it an event prize 6-8 months ago?
I've got two from the recent events.
So, plus one for competing the first level of the Barrens, he could have 4?
maybe 20months ago:rolleyes:?

Battle Mage
03-29-2013, 02:38 AM
maybe 20months ago:rolleyes:?

Ummm...? :confused: Sarcy? I thought KA hadn't been going that long?

In any case, I thought I remembered posts regarding the Vallata from just before I started KA 6 months ago. If not, then not.

I can guarantee there's been two on offer in the last few events, coz that's where I picked up my pair.

So if Mickeytah's guy has been around that long and cleared level 1 of the Barrens, that's 4.

Winstrol
03-29-2013, 02:42 AM
http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?42403-Limited-time-quest-Forging-Ahead&highlight=Vallata
4 months ago , but not 8 ;p

nicsonology
03-29-2013, 03:41 AM
The first event combine of pve, pvp, and raid bldg especially the castle

Dirt road Joe
03-29-2013, 04:04 AM
The first event combine of pve, pvp, and raid bldg especially the castle
I remember this terrible event well... For some reason I got stuck on the castles part of the quest and couldn't get any farther... Everyone must have been smarter back then.

garen argon
03-29-2013, 01:14 PM
With careful timing and a little luck, you should be able to get it. I stayed up until 5am last night going into the game every thirty minutes to get off an attack. I had today off from work so I was able to focus solely on KA and continuing to go in every thirty minutes to attack. I'm now close to getting it done.

now at 53/60 with 10 hours to go...looking good

garen argon
03-29-2013, 07:53 PM
now at 53/60 with 10 hours to go...looking good

got lvl 1 mastery done. :)

Valsuvious
03-31-2013, 11:28 AM
I don't know how many people might have finished this, but i did come across one who had the unit during the wars. I couldn't tell how what other rewards he might have gotten from it but I think I saw a third flame spawn in there and wasn't sure where it came from

Mr.Grumpy
03-31-2013, 11:39 PM
this event rewarded the heavy spenders. that's fine, most of the recent events have rewarded the free/light gem players VERY well.

i hope we don't go back to the "find the castle" type-quests, that s*** made me seriously mental.

steve_r
04-01-2013, 12:59 AM
No the next quest will be "my princess deserves the best, but I'm on a budget. Find me 25 level 8 castles."

schansche
06-17-2013, 04:37 AM
Hi all

Does anyone know, what are the other Units won by mastery of the Barrens? i can't find them... I just begun with Mastery lvl 4.

Thanks!
Schansche

Shadows
06-17-2013, 10:47 AM
Hi all

Does anyone know, what are the other Units won by mastery of the Barrens? i can't find them... I just begun with Mastery lvl 4.

Thanks!
Schansche

Recommend you post this question in the Area Mastery stickied thread... not bump a 2 month old LTQ thread...

Just my two cents...

schansche
06-17-2013, 10:03 PM
Recommend you post this question in the Area Mastery stickied thread... not bump a 2 month old LTQ thread...

Just my two cents...

Hey
You might have a point here. I did not, because there is more than one reward for this map.
Cheers