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GreenGuru
04-22-2013, 10:17 PM
Since people seem to make a habit of starting LTQ threads and never posting rewards info in the original post, I decided to collaborate the information so far and post it here in a new thread for easy access. Post your findings here and I'll add it to the list. Also there is a spread sheet posted for all of those who love using that.

SPREAD SHEET DATA
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgCUTOSskdQjdGlOWW4yTWJaQUxJSUt6clRTeXlEe UE#gid=43

Normal Mode

1/40 Nomadic Mercenary 60/50 (infantry)
2/40 Valkyrie Warrior 123/77 (infantry)
3/40 Battle Piper 259/287 (infantry)
4/40 Red Glob 311/345 (Beast)
5/40 Goblin Rogue 482/284 (infantry)
6/40 Black Crystal Adept 34/25 (magic)
7/40 Dawn Herald 1860/1140 (infantry)
8/40 Battlesworn Berserker 1807/1474 (infantry)
9/40 Olympic Guardian 22/40 (armor)
10/40 King of Bones 145/74 (infantry)
11/40 The Last Stand 25/15 (Weapon)
12/40 Ancient Guardian 178/204 (infantry)
13/40 Mana Spirit Robe 21/25 (armor)
14/40 Eastern Dragon 171/103 (beast)
15/40 Dragon's Limb 25/15 (Weapon)
16/40 Orid 162/174 (Infantry)
17/40 Rose Plate Armor 23/46 (Armor)
18/40 Master Judicator 148/180 (Magic)
19/40 Unerring Mace 25/15 (Weapon)
20/40 Undead Pirate 190/302 (Infantry)
21/40 Unseelie Robe 46/70 (Armor)
22/40 Paragon Templar 360/513 (Infantry)
23/40 Unseelie Leather 46/70 (Armor)
24/40 Dragon Disciple 459/632 (Magic)
25/40 Unseelie Steel 46/70 (Armor)
26/40 Solar Cultist 1010/531 (Infantry)
27/40 Ancient Leathers 49/76 (Armor)
28/40 Flynn's Dark Shadow 986/999 (Infantry)
29/40 Robe of the Ancients 49/76 (Armor)
30/40 Illusion Master 1,160/1,306 (Magic)
31/40 Domination Scepter 40/31 (Weapon)
32/40 Tanglevine Golem 375/418 (Magic)
33/40 fate of emerald 40/31 (weapon)
34/40 Battle Griffon 783/522 (infantry)
35/40 Demons Tooth 40/30 (weapon)
36/40 Spell Knight 792/953 ( magic)
37/40 Drider Bane 65/55 (weapon)
38/40 Umbral Hunter 929/761 (magic)
39/40 Acranis Tome 65/55 (weapon)
40/40 Thought Eater 1,499/1,166 (Infantry)

Heroic Mode

1/40 Liege's Harold (H) 34/38 (Infantry)
2/40 Serpent Enforcer (H) 422/344 (Infantry)
3/40 Doomwind Wehlpling (H) 386/502 (Beast)
4/40 Fury Golem (H) 1,198/980 (Infantry)
5/40 Umbral Skinchanger (H) 1,412/1,156 (Magic)
6/40 Dragon Order Captain (H) 1,350/1,492 (Infantry)
7/40 Shield Maiden (H) 2,922/3,295 (Infantry)
8/40 Peacekeeper 3500/3044 (Infantry)
9/40 Battle Mage 33/23 (Weapon)
10/40 Desert Ferret 460/540 (Infantry)
11/40 Temple Spear 54/42 (Weapon)
12/40 Pyre Drake 786/800 (Beast)
13/40 Jade Robes 28/56 (Armor)
14/40 Gargantuan Titan 607/490 (Beast)
15/40 The eye of set 54/42 (Weapon)
16/40 Dragon order Sentry 661/1,100 (Infantry)
17/40 Imperial Leather 28/56 (Armor)
18/40 Gaian Defender 869/467 (Infantry)
19/40 Twin Dragon Fangs 54/42 (Weapon)
20/40 Vengeance Fiend 1091/892 (Infantry)
21/40 Robe of the Origin 37/65 (Armor)
22/40 Dragon Cultis 1350/1790 (Magic)
23/40 Legionnaire Guard 37/65 (Armor)
24/40 Minotaur Chief 2130/1498 (Infantry)
25/40 Dragonscale Plate 44/126 (Armor)
26/40 Firestorm Chroniler 1581/2673 (Magic)
27/40 Dragon Hunter Leather 44/126 (Armor)
28/40 Flame Spawn 2,383/2,525 (Magic)
29/40 EmberFire Robes 44/126 (Armor)
30/40 Mighty Gokstad 3000/2596 (Infantry)
31/40 Unseelie Rites 79/69 (Weapon)
32/40 Shadow Lord Knight 1762/1524 (Infantry)
33/40 Unseelie Bow 79/69 (Weapon)
34/40 Charon 2266/1854 (Beast)
35/40 Champion's Sword 102/68 (Weapon)
36/40 Ice Mage 2291/2291 (Magic)
37/40 Champions Cutlass 102/68 (Weapon)
38/40 Arborues, the Harvester 2590/2910 (Magic)
39/40 Champions orb 102/68 (Weapon)
40/40 Minotaur Beserker (H) 2800/3233 (Infantry)

Thanks to Gambit, Winstrol, and MindMachine for helping post this information

MindMachine
04-22-2013, 10:43 PM
40/40 of Normal- Thought Eater

MindMachine
04-22-2013, 10:46 PM
Also Correct me If im Wrong but the Peacekeeper can be obtain in 8/40 of heroic..I think you need to adjust the rewards..Confirmed these one because curently on 27/40 and the reward is Dragon Hunter Leather

Master Stormzs
04-22-2013, 10:56 PM
In Normal Mode, stats:

26/40 Solar Cultist 1010/531 (Infantry)
28/40 Flynn's Dark Shadow 986/999 (Infantry)

GreenGuru
04-22-2013, 10:57 PM
Yea I'm just reposting the info I got from Winstrol for heroic. I'm assuming there was a slip in the information concerned the Champion's Sword used for warrior class which was not listed in the info but shown in a screen shot. I'll add it in where I think it should go in respect to the other weapons there.

MindMachine
04-22-2013, 11:09 PM
Yea I'm just reposting the info I got from Winstrol for heroic. I'm assuming there was a slip in the information concerned the Champion's Sword used for warrior class which was not listed in the info but shown in a screen shot. I'll add it in where I think it should go in respect to the other weapons there.

Yes..Thanks for your kind effort also :)

GreenGuru
04-22-2013, 11:17 PM
No problem, if you want help as well you can post the stats of the items listed to fill things out or just fix them on the spread sheet.

MindMachine
04-22-2013, 11:32 PM
8/40 Peacekeeper - 3500/3044
9/40 Battle Mage -
10/40 Desert Ferret -460/540
11/40 Temple Spear - 54/42
12/40 Pyre Drake -786/800
13/40 Jade Robes - 28/56
14/40 Gargantuan Titan - 607/490
15/40 The eye of set -54/42
16/40 Dragon order Sentry - 661/1100
17/40 Imperial Leather - 28/56
18/40 Gaian Defender - 869/467
19/40 Twin Dragon Fangs -54/42
20/40 Vengeance Fiend -1091/892
21/40 Robe of the Origin - 37/65
22/40 Dragon Cultis - 1350/1790
23/40 Legionnaire Guard - 37/65
24/40 Minotaur Chief - 2130/1498
25/40 Dragonscale Plate -44/126
26/40 Firestorm Chroniler - 1581/2673
27/40 Dragon Hunter Leather -44/126
28/40 Flame Spawn -2383/2525
29/40 EmberFire Robes -44/126
30/40 Mighty Gokstad - 3000/2596
31/40 Unseelie Rites - 79/69
32/40 Shadow Lord Knight- 1762/1524
33/40 Unseelie Bow - 79/69
34/40 Charon - 2266/1854
35/40 Champion's Sword 102/68 (Weapon)
36/40 Ice Mage -2291/2291
37/40 Champions Cutlass 102/68 (Weapon)
38/40 Arborues , the Harvester - 2590/2910
39/40 Champions orb 102/68 (Weapon)
40/40 Minotaur Beserker (H) 2800/3233

GreenGuru
04-23-2013, 12:02 AM
Thanks for the information MindMachine, I've updated everything now

Mr.Grumpy
04-23-2013, 12:33 AM
thank you for doing this, always very helpful.

for the heroic weapons you get in the latter stages, is there a way to note which one is for what class?

Fredcole
04-23-2013, 12:50 AM
GreenGuru, thanks alot for taking the time to summarize this.

Sure is appreciated!

nicsonology
04-23-2013, 01:57 AM
Great effort GreenGuru, its very clear to know what we could rewarded. Thx

Bagoftricks
04-23-2013, 02:04 AM
Great effort GreenGuru, its very clear to know what we could rewarded. Thx

Thanks all for doing this. If it wasn't for threads like this, I wouldn't visit the forum anymore. The hacker expose garbage that fills up so many other threads is really tiresome, juvenile and boring.

Nacon10
04-23-2013, 02:17 AM
What's the energy consumption like in heroic ? I want to make a run for the new hero weapons .

Kjctnorris
04-23-2013, 03:34 AM
Odd that the best unit in the LTQ is given long before the end of the quest.

Brutus
04-23-2013, 03:44 AM
Odd that the best unit in the LTQ is given long before the end of the quest.

Several rewards seem misplaced. Dawn herald very early on, followed by much lower stat units. Seems like they added the units randomly. The fact that your hero strength matters very little is also disappointing.

Nacon10
04-23-2013, 04:12 AM
normal rewards cont.

33/40 fate of emerald 40/31 (weapon)
34/40 Battle Griffon 783/522 (infantry)
35/40 Demons Tooth 40/30 (weapon)
36/40 Spell Knight 792/953 ( magic)
37/40 Drider Bane 65/55 (weapon)
38/40 Umbral Hunter 929/761 (magic)
39/40 Acranis Tome 65/55 (weapon)

Capzeman
04-23-2013, 05:02 AM
docs.google.com sucks...
thread like this one make my days! Thank you!

Free Ronin
04-23-2013, 05:34 AM
Does anyone know if the berserker Minotaur has the +20% upgrade speed?

MindMachine
04-23-2013, 05:42 AM
Thanks for the information MindMachine, I've updated everything now

No problem,just wanted to help..Updated the list,only the Battle Mage stats I cannot find..

Jixx
04-23-2013, 05:46 AM
No problem,just wanted to help..Updated the list,only the Battle Mage stats I cannot find..

battle mage is a weapon, im fairly certain of that.

Muajim
04-23-2013, 05:56 AM
does any unit in this ltq gives any bonus?

groovdog
04-23-2013, 06:20 AM
The thing I hate about KA is we have no idea how much energy this takes as everyone is so different (ie higher is less due to hit size). Paid a lot more over the last several months due to low level. Looks like more guys are single hit with high energy cost initially? Probably leveling the pay to play field.

Klassenr@hotmail.com
04-23-2013, 06:25 AM
The units do NOT have upgrade boost.

Jixx
04-23-2013, 06:25 AM
The thing I hate about KA is we have no idea how much energy this takes as everyone is so different (ie higher is less due to hit size). Paid a lot more over the last several months due to low level. Looks like more guys are single hit with high energy cost initially? Probably leveling the pay to play field.

the first quest i ran into where you had to kill more than 1 mob that i couldnt 1 hit was 20/40 normal, 3 mephistoles something. i hit 150ish on average

MindMachine
04-23-2013, 06:45 AM
battle mage is a weapon, im fairly certain of that.

Hmm maybe I overlooked and cannot find it..Thanks! :)

Ill Spoken Of
04-23-2013, 07:03 AM
Very nice work well done. Ty



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Shinazueli
04-23-2013, 09:23 AM
For those that are saying HS doesn't matter for this quest, wait til you get to 38/40.

Kjctnorris
04-23-2013, 09:29 AM
For those that are saying HS doesn't matter for this quest, wait til you get to 38/40.I'm not suggesting it doesn't matter, but they really limited the benefit you get from having high HS or a strong weapon in this event.

Shinazueli
04-23-2013, 09:33 AM
Well, yes. I suspected they would. They still give some benefit, but they weren't going to hand you the LTQ after they just handed out 80-70 weps last time. No matter how you slice it, they'll always find a way to make you have to spend to get what you want. It's what they do. And they do it well.

Kjctnorris
04-23-2013, 10:10 AM
Well, yes. I suspected they would. They still give some benefit, but they weren't going to hand you the LTQ after they just handed out 80-70 weps last time. No matter how you slice it, they'll always find a way to make you have to spend to get what you want. It's what they do. And they do it well.I fully acknowledge this.

I mentioned during the last LTQ that they were getting more expensive, and this one is even more expensive than the last. I'm sure the next will cost even more.

clipfiRe
04-23-2013, 10:12 AM
Many thanks to OP and collaborators for the information on this.

A question: I've been trolling through the available data sheets on the forums, trying to find some of the armours and weapons and have been unsuccessful thus far.
I'm particularly interested in which character class the Olympic Guardian (level 9 of LTQ; Normal Mode; Armour; 22/40) and The Last Stand (level 11 of LTQ; Normal Mode; Weapon; 25/15) are useful for as hero items.
Does anyone have this information available or who can link me to a relevant updated spreadsheet with this information?

Thanks.

MINDBO
04-23-2013, 10:20 AM
this was asked before but not answered...

How much energy does this LTQ take?

also

How many experience points are gained if you complete the event?

phopjon
04-23-2013, 11:23 AM
Great job, Greenguru. Thanks!

Finsfan
04-23-2013, 12:09 PM
Thank you all for the info!

I am curious at level 200 how much energy do you have at your disposal?

Nacon10
04-23-2013, 12:11 PM
this was asked before but not answered...

How much energy does this LTQ take?

also

How many experience points are gained if you complete the event?

the experience gain seems very very low compared to previous events. the energy required is off the charts.

Shinazueli
04-23-2013, 12:11 PM
Around 2100, but keep in mind energy refills only give you a maximum of 1000 energy, so it only affects starting energy and how long you can go between energy bar drains without wasting any. And the extra skill points, ofc.

Shinazueli
04-23-2013, 12:13 PM
I fully acknowledge this.

I mentioned during the last LTQ that they were getting more expensive, and this one is even more expensive than the last. I'm sure the next will cost even more.

I think this one is actually cheaper than the one before, based on my own experience. YMMV.

Finsfan
04-23-2013, 12:19 PM
Around 2100, but keep in mind energy refills only give you a maximum of 1000 energy, so it only affects starting energy and how long you can go between energy bar drains without wasting any. And the extra skill points, ofc.

Cool thanks

Jixx
04-23-2013, 12:53 PM
I think this one is actually cheaper than the one before, based on my own experience. YMMV.

have you finished normal yet?

because the final creature in normal would take the entire event to complete for free, if you started there. For my measily 150 damage at least.

Shinazueli
04-23-2013, 01:18 PM
have you finished normal yet?

because the final creature in normal would take the entire event to complete for free, if you started there. For my measily 150 damage at least.

Yes, I have. The final boss had about as much health as EACH of the 5/6 bosses last LTQ. I think you just forgot how much they sucked.

Edit: read below.

Kjctnorris
04-23-2013, 03:12 PM
I think this one is actually cheaper than the one before, based on my own experience. YMMV.I've already spent as much on this one to get to stage 38/40 H as I did on the entire last LTQ.

Also, last boss on normal had 6,000 hp.

Jixx
04-23-2013, 03:31 PM
I've already spent as much on this one to get to stage 38/40 H as I did on the entire last LTQ.

Also, last boss on normal had 6,000 hp.

which is about half the hp of the 5/6 bosses on normal :)

Shinazueli
04-23-2013, 04:21 PM
Those bosses had 3.8k, and there were three of them. The each was an overestimate. But 6k vs 11.4k (and then the final boss). Even though the energy hits are higher, the fact that you can one shot the vast majority of the monsters means that it's still overall cheaper. I've spent one mountain to get to 30/40 h, that same mountain got me through 3/6 h last time. Once the spreadsheet is complete, it'll be interesting to see, but for now, I'm standing by my assertion that this one is overall cheaper than the last. And it looks like better stats to boot. Although I agree it's annoying that my HS points are pointless in all but like three of the quests, I'd still rather spend less and get more. Just me.

RedRoom
04-23-2013, 04:36 PM
Stupid noob question. What is Heroic mode as opposed to normal mode?

boneshaker
04-23-2013, 04:42 PM
Stupid noob question. What is Heroic mode as opposed to normal mode?

After you finish on normal mode you can do it again on heroic mode. It's harder but has better drops.

Klassenr@hotmail.com
04-23-2013, 04:43 PM
Stupid noob question. What is Heroic mode as opposed to normal mode?

there are no 'stupid noob questions'. There is however a thread for these types of questions which GreenGuru and Shinazueli put a lot of work into where this question is more appropriate. It is titled FAQ: Frequently Asked Questions and can be found currently on the second page of the general forums.
If you dont mind reposting this question there we can get you a complete answer in a timely manner.

TheHulk
04-23-2013, 04:43 PM
Anyone know what 7/40 H gives you? Please

RedRoom
04-23-2013, 04:53 PM
there are no 'stupid noob questions'. There is however a thread for these types of questions which GreenGuru and Shinazueli put a lot of work into where this question is more appropriate. It is titled FAQ: Frequently Asked Questions and can be found currently on the second page of the general forums.
If you dont mind reposting this question there we can get you a complete answer in a timely manner.

Noted and thank you...

Shinazueli
04-23-2013, 05:06 PM
Anyone know what 7/40 H gives you? Please

I don't write them down but I'd be happy to look at them if you give me the name.

TheHulk
04-23-2013, 05:11 PM
I don't write them down but I'd be happy to look at them if you give me the name.

Yo, I don't know what it is bro, just noticed its the only one not documented on the spreadsheets???

Shinazueli
04-23-2013, 06:26 PM
Yeah sorry neither do I.

echus14
04-23-2013, 07:05 PM
Hi Green Guru. Thanks for this great work. From the posts I understand that the spreadsheet is complete. Could I ask a big favor that you also update the first post with the basic unit name, A/D and type (infantry, etc) data. Reason is I cannot access the spreadsheet from where I am due to firewalls. Thanks! :)

Richerand
04-23-2013, 07:07 PM
Does the Minotaur Berzerker hold the bonus that the prize from the first wars has?

Klassenr@hotmail.com
04-23-2013, 07:28 PM
Does the Minotaur Berzerker hold the bonus that the prize from the first wars has?

Unfortunately not Lord Richerand.. If it is supposed to, then it doesn't work.

plavine
04-23-2013, 08:05 PM
Olympic guardian is warrior , there are so many better weapons than the last stand , I wouldn't worry .

plavine
04-23-2013, 08:06 PM
Gas everyone noticed that the rewards in heroic aren't heroic but regular items ??

Shinazueli
04-23-2013, 09:34 PM
As long as the stats are appropriate idc about an (h) after the name.

GreenGuru
04-23-2013, 10:12 PM
Hi Green Guru. Thanks for this great work. From the posts I understand that the spreadsheet is complete. Could I ask a big favor that you also update the first post with the basic unit name, A/D and type (infantry, etc) data. Reason is I cannot access the spreadsheet from where I am due to firewalls. Thanks! :)

Sorry for the late updates, I've had a long and busy day. I've got it all updated now though Echus. Should be good for you all to read easily now.

GreenGuru
04-23-2013, 10:17 PM
Stupid noob question. What is Heroic mode as opposed to normal mode?

Honestly surprised we didn't already have this among the FAQ's I'll go put it in now. Post any other questions you have there if it's not already answered in the original post

leek
04-24-2013, 12:42 AM
Is it also possible to include the mobs and the number of times, energy required you need to defeat them in order to gain the rewards? Sorry if I am asking too much.


Since people seem to make a habit of starting LTQ threads and never posting rewards info in the original post, I decided to collaborate the information so far and post it here in a new thread for easy access. Post your findings here and I'll add it to the list. Also there is a spread sheet posted for all of those who love using that.

SPREAD SHEET DATA
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgCUTOSskdQjdGlOWW4yTWJaQUxJSUt6clRTeXlEe UE#gid=43

Normal Mode

1/40 Nomadic Mercenary 60/50 (infantry)
2/40 Valkyrie Warrior 123/77 (infantry)
3/40 Battle Piper 259/287 (infantry)
4/40 Red Glob 311/345 (Beast)
5/40 Goblin Rogue 482/284 (infantry)
6/40 Black Crystal Adept 34/25 (magic)
7/40 Dawn Herald 1860/1140 (infantry)
8/40 Battlesworn Berserker 1807/1474 (infantry)
9/40 Olympic Guardian 22/40 (armor)
10/40 King of Bones 145/74 (infantry)
11/40 The Last Stand 25/15 (Weapon)
12/40 Ancient Guardian 178/204 (infantry)
13/40 Mana Spirit Robe 21/25 (armor)
14/40 Eastern Dragon 171/103 (beast)
15/40 Dragon's Limb 25/15 (Weapon)
16/40 Orid 162/174 (Infantry)
17/40 Rose Plate Armor 23/46 (Armor)
18/40 Master Judicator 148/180 (Magic)
19/40 Unerring Mace 25/15 (Weapon)
20/40 Undead Pirate 190/302 (Infantry)
21/40 Unseelie Robe 46/70 (Armor)
22/40 Paragon Templar 360/513 (Infantry)
23/40 Unseelie Leather 46/70 (Armor)
24/40 Dragon Disciple 459/632 (Magic)
25/40 Unseelie Steel 46/70 (Armor)
26/40 Solar Cultist 1010/531 (Infantry)
27/40 Ancient Leathers 49/76 (Armor)
28/40 Flynn's Dark Shadow 986/999 (Infantry)
29/40 Robe of the Ancients 49/76 (Armor)
30/40 Illusion Master 1,160/1,306 (Magic)
31/40 Domination Scepter 40/31 (Weapon)
32/40 Tanglevine Golem 375/418 (Magic)
33/40 fate of emerald 40/31 (weapon)
34/40 Battle Griffon 783/522 (infantry)
35/40 Demons Tooth 40/30 (weapon)
36/40 Spell Knight 792/953 ( magic)
37/40 Drider Bane 65/55 (weapon)
38/40 Umbral Hunter 929/761 (magic)
39/40 Acranis Tome 65/55 (weapon)
40/40 Thought Eater 1,499/1,166 (Infantry)

Heroic Mode

1/40 Liege's Harold (H) 34/38 (Infantry)
2/40 Serpent Enforcer (H) 422/344 (Infantry)
3/40 Doomwind Wehlpling (H) 386/502 (Beast)
4/40 Fury Golem (H) 1,198/980 (Infantry)
5/40 Umbral Skinchanger (H) 1,412/1,156 (Magic)
6/40 Dragon Order Captain (H) 1,350/1,492 (Infantry)
7/40 Shield Maiden (H) 2,922/3,295 (Infantry)
8/40 Peacekeeper 3500/3044 (Infantry)
9/40 Battle Mage 33/23 (Weapon)
10/40 Desert Ferret 460/540 (Infantry)
11/40 Temple Spear 54/42 (Weapon)
12/40 Pyre Drake 786/800 (Beast)
13/40 Jade Robes 28/56 (Armor)
14/40 Gargantuan Titan 607/490 (Beast)
15/40 The eye of set 54/42 (Weapon)
16/40 Dragon order Sentry 661/1,100 (Infantry)
17/40 Imperial Leather 28/56 (Armor)
18/40 Gaian Defender 869/467 (Infantry)
19/40 Twin Dragon Fangs 54/42 (Weapon)
20/40 Vengeance Fiend 1091/892 (Infantry)
21/40 Robe of the Origin 37/65 (Armor)
22/40 Dragon Cultis 1350/1790 (Magic)
23/40 Legionnaire Guard 37/65 (Armor)
24/40 Minotaur Chief 2130/1498 (Infantry)
25/40 Dragonscale Plate 44/126 (Armor)
26/40 Firestorm Chroniler 1581/2673 (Magic)
27/40 Dragon Hunter Leather 44/126 (Armor)
28/40 Flame Spawn 2,383/2,525 (Magic)
29/40 EmberFire Robes 44/126 (Armor)
30/40 Mighty Gokstad 3000/2596 (Infantry)
31/40 Unseelie Rites 79/69 (Weapon)
32/40 Shadow Lord Knight 1762/1524 (Infantry)
33/40 Unseelie Bow 79/69 (Weapon)
34/40 Charon 2266/1854 (Beast)
35/40 Champion's Sword 102/68 (Weapon)
36/40 Ice Mage 2291/2291 (Magic)
37/40 Champions Cutlass 102/68 (Weapon)
38/40 Arborues, the Harvester 2590/2910 (Magic)
39/40 Champions orb 102/68 (Weapon)
40/40 Minotaur Beserker (H) 2800/3233 (Infantry)

Thanks to Gambit, Winstrol, and MindMachine for helping post this information

echus14
04-24-2013, 01:22 AM
Thanks Green Guru!

GreenGuru
04-24-2013, 01:55 AM
Is it also possible to include the mobs and the number of times, energy required you need to defeat them in order to gain the rewards? Sorry if I am asking too much.

You should try taking the rewards data out of the quote next time to avoid an unnecessarily large post.

Concerning your request for the mobs and energy required though, I have only seen that done before on one spread sheet data set and I have yet to see one made for this LTQ. If someone one were to make one I'd add it to the original post for those who are curious but most people are only concerned with the rewards stats for each stage. Currently though I don't know of anyone that has been documenting the energy it has cost them nor the mobs they've encountered.


Thanks Green Guru!

Anytime Echus

larrydavid
04-24-2013, 02:16 AM
I started documenting the energy levels needed from level 23-31 of normal mode so far. I will google doc it later today. Looking like ~600-1500 per LTQ level from 23 on. With an average of 800 or so

leek
04-24-2013, 03:36 AM
Thanks Larrydavid, I'm up to level 22 so those stats you have from 23 onwards will be tremendously useful. Feel free to PM me or put it up in the forum. cheers


I started documenting the energy levels needed from level 23-31 of normal mode so far. I will google doc it later today. Looking like ~600-1500 per LTQ level from 23 on. With an average of 800 or so

leek
04-24-2013, 03:40 AM
Sure Green Guru, will take note in the future. I've seen the last one done for the Anniversary of Evil and was very useful to determine how much further I can go in the LTQ.

[QUOTE=GreenGuru;720690]You should try taking the rewards data out of the quote next time to avoid an unnecessarily large post.

Concerning your request for the mobs and energy required though, I have only seen that done before on one spread sheet data set and I have yet to see one made for this LTQ. If someone one were to make one I'd add it to the original post for those who are curious but most people are only concerned with the rewards stats for each stage. Currently though I don't know of anyone that has been documenting the energy it has cost them nor the mobs they've encountered.

Sir Marcus
04-24-2013, 04:13 AM
You know, I usually love LTQs. But this high-energy, low HP/defense, multiple monster kill theme really is sucking the fun out of this game for me. It renders my HS and (paid for) weaponry utterly useless. The stupidly low exp also prevents leveling and the free energy refills that come with it.

Yeah, GREE wants to make money, and players spending as many gems as possible = more money. But there also has to be a balance for player fun - because games that aren't fun lose players, and losing players = less money.

l3lade2
04-24-2013, 04:51 AM
Frankly, I (a low level gem spender but I think this probably applies to most Low and Medium level spenders) am more likely to buy gems to finish an LTQ on the more normal format. i.e. I can probably get to maybe ~15-20 out of 40 on Heroic using free gems, then it's worth plowing some gems in to finish and get the usually very lucrative units towards the end.

On this LTQ, I won't be spending any though, it would take a huge amount to finish it as I'll barely get to start Heoric on free, and you already get some pretty great units out of sync at the start.

This isn't a moan, about it being too hard or what not, it's my choice not to use a mountain+ (I think it would probably take roughly for the whole of H) but just an observation that to me it seems GREE are alienating the Low-Medium spenders with this type of LTQ. Yes they'll still get the Highs "so they won't care" or whatever some people might reply with, but let's face it....they'd get most of the Highs no matter what format the LTQ is in! ;)

larrydavid
04-24-2013, 06:28 AM
Thanks Larrydavid, I'm up to level 22 so those stats you have from 23 onwards will be tremendously useful. Feel free to PM me or put it up in the forum. cheers
level enemy # energy/mob
23 Wildwood Warriors 6 148
24 Bog Warrior 4 148
25 Mutated Warrior 1 1110
got sidetracked 26-29 are at home.
29 or 30 is a single boss: ~1600 energy (200 energy/hit)
31 6 enemies @ 174 energy/hit each (their health is 252 each)
32 5 enemies @ 174 energy (their health is 155 each)
33 hellbound ghoul 1 227/hit (retaliates for 50 energy!), looks to be ~1600 health (2000+ energy)

just to get you started. also, btw, my hero strength is 163, best weapon is shiver bow 76/94, armor 44/126. My avg hit is between 185-210.

Safe approximation is:
Energy required per level = 30*level
except for boss levels (about 1 every 5 levels) = 50*level :)

I hope this helps a bit.

Shinazueli
04-24-2013, 07:31 AM
Larry, this is why we track hit points of monsters if we're going to bother doing that at all. Enemy hp is the one thing that doesn't vary from player to player, so it's the easiest way to relate, since everyone's damage is quite different. I see that you have some of their hp marked; but energy doesn't help anyone.

Also, just wanted to point out, don't flame me, but I'm in a mostly free guild and a lot of LLP campers in there and they are loving this LTQ because their HS/weapon doesn't matter and because of the stupid low xp. Lol. Not saying that Gree thought of that, or cares, but it's nice for them.

larrydavid
04-24-2013, 07:56 AM
@Shinaueli, Gotcha, not completely accurate, but every mob from 29 down besides bosses was like 55 health or something extremely low.

Silent follower
04-24-2013, 07:59 AM
I have most of levels 1-21, some are missing if somebody makes the spreadsheet I can add them there. I can add them here later today.

leek
04-24-2013, 08:15 AM
Thanks Larrydavid, you're a star. That helps a lot. If you have more updates from 33 onwards, keep them coming.

plavine
04-24-2013, 08:16 AM
I couldn't agree with you more. Plus , the improved hero weapons are so far down the line that only the big spenders can get it. I am also moderately insulted that gree would offer such low attack weapons as rewards on a time & energy consuming quest like this. The strong(and rich) are getting stronger , while the rest of us who can't spend the money fall farther behind. Plus, as a level 151, I am on the rivals list for level 200+.

Shinazueli
04-24-2013, 08:24 AM
@Shinaueli, Gotcha, not completely accurate, but every mob from 29 down besides bosses was like 55 health or something extremely low.

True, for this quest you can safely ignore the mobs health, but that may not always be the case.

larrydavid
04-24-2013, 09:08 AM
True, for this quest you can safely ignore the mobs health, but that may not always be the case.

I will post health from 33 on since it seems to be getting in the 150+ range sometimes.

larrydavid
04-24-2013, 10:22 AM
level 34 - defeat 6 Lifeless Treant for 181 energy, they each have 204 health.

Mickeytah
04-24-2013, 12:11 PM
1/40 Liege's Harold (H) 34/38 (Infantry)

That can't be right. If it is, I feel for the people who spent gems to get it.

larrydavid
04-24-2013, 12:37 PM
That can't be right. If it is, I feel for the people who spent gems to get it.

It can be right because level 8 (H) is a 3500/3000 unit.

Mickeytah
04-24-2013, 01:02 PM
It can be right because level 8 (H) is a 3500/3000 unit.

Right, but a 34/38 unit instead of a 34/38 weapon? Even with the sporadic placement of units in this LTQ, it still seems very out of place.

larrydavid
04-24-2013, 02:19 PM
Level 35 normal: 5x194 health (181energy per hit)
Level 36 normal: 4x~500 health (181 energy per hit, ~54 retaliation)
Sorry for approximations, going from memory.

groovdog
04-24-2013, 02:52 PM
378 energy on Normal 40 with riposte. REALLY? Thats 2 hits and 50 mins of regen for 3rd hit per gem spend. Getting completely out of hand. Worst thing is cant get boxes on individual hits that I can see unlike MW at least.

Nacon10
04-24-2013, 03:11 PM
ive been babysiting 40/40 normal since this event started and still have about 20 percents hp left

Intan jabrut
04-24-2013, 07:48 PM
Yeah, a bit strange with this LTQ, coz usually the prize sort from weakest to strongest. Now they make it random.

Perfuzzie
04-24-2013, 07:54 PM
no spend more get more anymore ?

EtreusDread
04-24-2013, 09:14 PM
So has anyone been able to answer the question: Which class/es can use the Drider Bane 65/55? I seems like there are only two weapons at 65/55, so one class may be stuck waiting for an improvement until much later... I bought a mountain hoping not to have to use it to get through this LTQ and the LTE, but I'm not sure I'll be able to do it... CRossing my fingers...

Nacon10
04-24-2013, 09:22 PM
So has anyone been able to answer the question: Which class/es can use the Drider Bane 65/55? I seems like there are only two weapons at 65/55, so one class may be stuck waiting for an improvement until much later... I bought a mountain hoping not to have to use it to get through this LTQ and the LTE, but I'm not sure I'll be able to do it... CRossing my fingers...

Lemme know what you spend on 40/40. I'm babysitting cause the gems arnt worth it. This LTQ seems weaker .

Shinazueli
04-24-2013, 09:44 PM
Yeah, a bit strange with this LTQ, coz usually the prize sort from weakest to strongest. Now they make it random.

It's not random, they put them in early to suck players in to actually doing them. There's still a fair number of campers out there who only do the first few quests to gain some cheap (xp wise) stats.

As far as overall, this LTQ has around 65k total stats, which is almost exactly as the last. And it would cost between one and two mountains to complete for the average player, also inline with the last LTQ.

Shinazueli
04-24-2013, 09:45 PM
Lemme know what you spend on 40/40. I'm babysitting cause the gems arnt worth it. This LTQ seems weaker .

That boss took me 9 refills I think. I hit for around 200. Think he has 6k health.

Shinazueli
04-24-2013, 09:46 PM
So has anyone been able to answer the question: Which class/es can use the Drider Bane 65/55? I seems like there are only two weapons at 65/55, so one class may be stuck waiting for an improvement until much later... I bought a mountain hoping not to have to use it to get through this LTQ and the LTE, but I'm not sure I'll be able to do it... CRossing my fingers...

Pretty sure that one is rogue. It's a bow, FWIW.

Nacon10
04-25-2013, 08:41 AM
finally beat the normal boss almost two days babysiting. breezed through the first 10 of heroic some nice rewards right off the start

larrydavid
04-25-2013, 10:37 AM
[QUOTE=Nacon10;723113]finally beat the normal boss almost two days babysiting. breezed through the first 10 of heroic some nice rewards right off the start[/QUOTE

That's good to know. Although not sure ill get thru this boss in the next 2.5 days. :( what's your best guess on his health, 6k as stated before?

sousas
04-25-2013, 10:51 AM
Completed 25/40 normal quest.

It's so cool to be puny! :)

Web323
04-25-2013, 11:26 AM
What is the min level to do the LTQ?

JTurtle
04-25-2013, 12:55 PM
What is the min level to do the LTQ?

Pretty sure it's level 15

mtlfce
04-25-2013, 02:00 PM
As a lower level Camper/slow player I'm loving the early big prizes!
That said... does anyone know what class the Dragons Limb (15/40) weapon can be used by? wondering if the level up is worth it.

Eliysiam
04-25-2013, 03:40 PM
Thanks to everyone who put together this info!!

The_Legend_Shall_Live_On
04-25-2013, 04:04 PM
Completed 25/40 normal quest.

It's so cool to be puny! :)

Welcome to the forum Sousas!

MindMachine
04-25-2013, 04:35 PM
I wonder if the reward 38/40 and 40/40 of Heroic had the original bonuses they possess during the events that they are the main prize or one of the main prizes..anyone can confirm these?thanks..I know some have already answer that it dont have the bonuses,is it maybe it dont work just like the prizes in spend more get more..just triple checking,my apologies :)

MindMachine
04-25-2013, 04:37 PM
finally beat the normal boss almost two days babysiting. breezed through the first 10 of heroic some nice rewards right off the start

Wow..Good to hear.. :P

Dirt road Joe
04-25-2013, 11:48 PM
I wonder if the reward 38/40 and 40/40 of Heroic had the original bonuses they possess during the events that they are the main prize or one of the main prizes..anyone can confirm these?thanks..I know some have already answer that it dont have the bonuses,is it maybe it dont work just like the prizes in spend more get more..just triple checking,my apologies :)

I'm not 100%. But i believe they do not have a bonus associated with them. The units you get in this event are the (H) Version of them. I think they did this to prevent people from getting the bonuses but still earning the units.

MindMachine
04-26-2013, 03:11 AM
Hmm,Oh I see...Thought it was with the same bonus just like the previous one..Thanks!

Ruston
04-26-2013, 03:17 AM
Hmm,Oh I see...Thought it was with the same bonus just like the previous one..Thanks!
what was the bonus on the previous one?

larrydavid
04-26-2013, 04:45 AM
Anyone have approximate health for first 1-10 levels of Hero mode?

hellhound604
04-26-2013, 04:48 AM
with the new honor units, this quest is the easiest to gain honor points to buy them with. Just a pity I spent all my honor points buying cannons, else I could have had a huge number of Blue Flame Tigers by now (Still working on my BD 10, my Hydra army was good enough, but with the new units I'm working hard on my BD10 again)

MindMachine
04-26-2013, 05:25 AM
what was the bonus on the previous one?

Oh sorry if i didn't elaborate it well..by previous one I mean during the box event and the guild wars where they are a top prize.. :D

larrydavid
04-26-2013, 06:49 AM
hero
lvl # mob energy total
1 6 64 384 43 health/mob
2 5 61 305 35 health/mob
3 4 64 256 29 health/mob

sousas
04-26-2013, 11:56 AM
Welcome to the forum Sousas!

Thanks.

Just started level 30/40 normal.

Lets see if I get the Tanglevine Golem 32/40 before the end of this LTQ.

[MoC] Stephen
04-26-2013, 12:25 PM
I'm actually not sure if I'm going to be able to beat normal without gems (something I have been able to do for several LTQs now).

Gambit12
04-26-2013, 12:32 PM
I'm 31/40 H now & wasted 700 gems just to get this guy..:cool:

http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg622/Swyn1221/KA%20Prizes/f5195644-1093-4fea-a3a1-b746749df9e1_zps5db7ab8f.jpg (http://s1247.photobucket.com/user/Swyn1221/media/KA%20Prizes/f5195644-1093-4fea-a3a1-b746749df9e1_zps5db7ab8f.jpg.html)

VileDoom
04-26-2013, 02:13 PM
It saddens me greatly to know the creator of this thread will no longer be making them for future events. What a terrible loss to the community.

Klassenr@hotmail.com
04-26-2013, 02:41 PM
It saddens me greatly to know the creator of this thread will no longer be making them for future events. What a terrible loss to the community.

+100 GreenGuru will be missed. Tragedy for this forum.

Gambit12
04-26-2013, 03:50 PM
It saddens me greatly to know the creator of this thread will no longer be making them for future events. What a terrible loss to the community.

Just a temporary banned i think. Probably 2 to 3 days at the most...

Shinazueli
04-26-2013, 04:35 PM
Betting on a week. But he may be less willing to help out now.

nicsonology
04-26-2013, 11:30 PM
+100 GreenGuru will be missed. Tragedy for this forum.

Ban, why he should be? And any sign?

Shinazueli
04-26-2013, 11:36 PM
Who said anything about banning? Not us, we don't talk about those things on this forum. I was talking about his vacation. But he was posting in one thread that a lot of people who are no longer on the forum also posted on.

New Jersey Jones
04-27-2013, 01:14 PM
Anyone know which of the three Unseelie armors is worn by Warrior class?
Thanks!

Master Stormzs
04-27-2013, 01:43 PM
Anyone know which of the three Unseelie armors is worn by Warrior class?
Thanks!

25/40 Unseelie Steel 46/70 (Armor)
In normal mode round 25/40