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Tiki
05-25-2013, 07:31 AM
I would just like everyone to know that "The Royal Knights" guild is not part of Royal Knights. We have two guilds; RK and ~RK~. So, TRK is not part of us.

NBK
05-25-2013, 08:12 AM
@TIKI - Just for the record we asked Gree to change our guild name I believe after the first war...as usual that ticket is pending! As in my post, blame Gree!!! I believe one of our senior members was in contact with Braveheart prior to the war and said something to thee effect that we would only be using gems if others did! That unfortunately has been the case with Samurai Blood and FUN and pretty much everyone else in the top 10 and I would say top 25! I would like to congratulate RK and every other guild that put their name on the list and has held to it, cuz I believe a lot have not done so!!!

Brutus
05-25-2013, 12:49 PM
I believe one of our senior members was in contact with Braveheart prior to the war and said something to thee effect that we would only be using gems if others did! That unfortunately has been the case with Samurai Blood and FUN and pretty much everyone else in the top 10 and I would say top 25! I would like to congratulate RK and every other guild that put their name on the list and has held to it, cuz I believe a lot have not done so!!!

Did you honestly believe no one would use gems in this war? Come on...

The new guy
05-25-2013, 01:08 PM
Did you honestly believe no one would use gems in this war? Come on...

Sounds more like we saw our chance to get some cheap units so are taking advantage.

RotoMan
05-25-2013, 01:30 PM
... That unfortunately has been the case with Samurai Blood and FUN and pretty much everyone else in the top 10 and I would say top 25! I would like to congratulate RK and every other guild that put their name on the list and has held to it, cuz I believe a lot have not done so!!!

FUN has shown their true colors. Organize boycott and then abandon everyone.

Ryosaeba
05-25-2013, 02:20 PM
FUN has shown their true colors. Organize boycott and then abandon everyone.

lol.. Abandon? That was their plan all along. Have other guilds not spend or spend less, they in turn spend less and still get #1.

Mr Painite
05-25-2013, 02:25 PM
FUN has shown their true colors. Organize boycott and then abandon everyone.

I keep seeing people say that FUN agreed to not use gems during this battle but I have not seen any evidence. Can you link me to a post or screenshot that proves otherwise?

Colony Colonel
05-25-2013, 03:43 PM
Mr, I too see no evidence.

However FUN did complain that GREE do nothing about hackers and hacker guilds and they almost lost a fight due to this. I thought that they would too take part in a boycott to get these things fixed.

But there is another mentality... Get so far ahead with war bonuses etc that hackers can't even touch you with their 1500 voracious. I see where they are coming from.

But 5 mill points seems a lot! Think of all that chocolate!!

[JAG] Ryan
05-25-2013, 03:50 PM
FUN never said they will not use gems. Stop that bs. They allways said they will use less and as much is necessary to keep 1 st place! RK and others commited not to use gems accepting also a loss of place/rank. Please stop mixing up. Thx

goowokji
05-25-2013, 03:58 PM
This is not the only place where guilds posts stuff why don't you check out Kakao

LordB
05-25-2013, 04:42 PM
Conquering United Nation Team (who used to be called FUN) set up a guild leaders chat on kakao where they proposed and pushed for the complete gems boycott. "they" being king gabriel, captain awesome and the1nonly. Ie the leaders of that guild. All the top10 guilds and most of the top25 were in this chat. If they say they never intended or proposed a full boycott, then they are even more risible than their new name would suggest...

LordB
05-25-2013, 06:12 PM
Oh, and "proprioception" was on it too, using the name "hammer". Each more laughable than the last.

Mr Painite
05-25-2013, 11:01 PM
This is not the only place where guilds posts stuff why don't you check out Kakao


Conquering United Nation Team (who used to be called FUN) set up a guild leaders chat on kakao where they proposed and pushed for the complete gems boycott. "they" being king gabriel, captain awesome and the1nonly. Ie the leaders of that guild. All the top10 guilds and most of the top25 were in this chat. If they say they never intended or proposed a full boycott, then they are even more risible than their new name would suggest...


Oh, and "proprioception" was on it too, using the name "hammer". Each more laughable than the last.

Post a screenshot please.

Scarlet Heart
05-26-2013, 05:04 AM
Ryan;780693']FUN never said they will not use gems. Stop that bs. They allways said they will use less and as much is necessary to keep 1 st place! RK and others commited not to use gems accepting also a loss of place/rank. Please stop mixing up. Thx

Finally someone has spoken the truth! Thank you Ryan.

Lets set this straight:
FACT: FUN created the leaders Chat before Blighted Woods to call for a boycott in purchasing and lowering gem spenditure.
FACT: Initially only founders/selected leaders/ambassadors of guilds were invited to prevent an 'every man and his dog opinion' which wld only create too many opinions and digress from the focus of what needed to be done.
FACT: Unfortunately, that's what happen. There were leaders who were bringing constructive feedback and opinions on how best to organise and tackle the issues at hand, but others that turned the chat into a mess.
FACT: leaders of hacked guilds somehow joined that chat...but instead of acknowledging the facts that hacked gold gave them 60 spots with 3 weeks of guilds opening, he professed their innocence that they did nothing wrong. The said they suspected that the person in question hacked and then he left. But they did not hit down the guild nor did GREE for that matter, even though they immediately shut down DWs guild upon watchin them go from 34 members to 54 in less than 2 weeks. Something wrong tere hey?
FACT: After watching that leaders chat room turn into a 'mess', many of the leaders simply packed their bags and left.
FACT: So, no one honoured the original boycott that was organised and initiated firstly by FUN. Everyone went hard out in Blighted Woods, so FUN simply did the same and quickly caught up to overtake for first after watching all other guilds simply did the opposite of what was discussed.
FACT: The current boycott, which to some extent is showing some good involvement, involved many guilds but FUN clearly stated that they wld remain first, but lower their gem spenditure...which is exactly what they are doing. THIS IS WHAT THEY STATED THEY WLD DO AND THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING! PERIOD!

So, go flame grill your beef burger you bunch of sooks having a go at FUN because they are doing exactly what they said they wld do. Go cry to Mommy, better still, stick a dummy in your mouth and suck it up cry boys.

YLL
05-26-2013, 07:20 AM
Ryan;780693']FUN never said they will not use gems. Stop that bs. They allways said they will use less and as much is necessary to keep 1 st place! RK and others commited not to use gems accepting also a loss of place/rank. Please stop mixing up. Thx

That's the good ol' Having Ones Cake And Eating It Strategy, as very recently advocated by Boris Johnson, Mayor of London. Separately, for everyone else, this is also a good example of the Game Theory known as The Prisoner's Dilemma. Who says KA has no more strategy?

larrydavid
05-26-2013, 07:24 AM
RK didn't you say no gems?

Colony Colonel
05-26-2013, 11:33 AM
RK didn't you say no gems?

I personally think that all guilds that have participated in the boycott so far (including RK) have stuck to their word.

although the top guilds want to retain their usual positions this has happened with probably half the usual gem usage of a normal war so far.

GREE will notice the half income and won't be happy with it.

they will have a "it will go away" attitude about it at first. but persistence is the key.

Chups
05-26-2013, 04:18 PM
FUN has shown their true colors. Organize boycott and then abandon everyone.

Anybody who belongs to this group is DIRT.

Scarlet Heart
05-26-2013, 07:17 PM
Anybody who belongs to this group is DIRT.

Go suck a dummy and cry to mommy

Racr-X
05-26-2013, 08:04 PM
Thank you for sharing...

Johan -
05-26-2013, 11:48 PM
I personally think that all guilds that have participated in the boycott so far (including RK) have stuck to their word.

although the top guilds want to retain their usual positions this has happened with probably half the usual gem usage of a normal war so far.

GREE will notice the half income and won't be happy with it.

they will have a "it will go away" attitude about it at first. but persistence is the key.

Colony Colonel,

I appreciate your opinion, but I cannot completely agree with you.
GREE will not notice much difference, as this is the first war within 2 weeks after the other one, the question indeed is if with the next war, everyone will use less gems also. if not than this war was still additional profit for GREE.

Better to have some profit, than non at all ;) ( when this war together with the next war brings in total more gems for GREE, than they still can laugh about this)

We still have 1 day and 13 hours to go, (1) FUN has already 10 mill. and (10)RK has 3,3 Mill. CP.
(2)The Royal Knights have 5,2 Mill & (3)Samurai Blood 3 has 5 mill., I think overall, the gems usage is still around 70% of what it normally would be ( I didn't calculate it, so just an estimation)

I also think we must not forget that many players spend less gems now, so the can use also their gems with the next war, most players have a normal job and don''t want to spend to much money in this game, so for them it's better to use some with this war and some with the next war...

Anyway...1 day and 13 hours to go !! Wish you all an enjoyable war!

Samskill
05-27-2013, 12:38 AM
Somehow, everyone is pointing the finger at FUN. But all is blind to trailing guilds! I.e Samurai blood, the fake RK, etc
Look closely and tell me who is adjusting the OB markers!
1st for FUN is to stay, the underdogs will not have their day!

alizainal
05-27-2013, 01:11 AM
Somehow, everyone is pointing the finger at FUN. But all is blind to trailing guilds! I.e Samurai blood, the fake RK, etc
Look closely and tell me who is adjusting the OB markers!
1st for FUN is to stay, the underdogs will not have their day!

It's only because FUN is the first guild that started to ask guild leaders to sit together, talk about what would be done to force GREE to make this game better (at least, for their interest). When the result of the discussion was to refrain from using gems, FUN walked out by saying they didn't agree to join the boycott. I can't blame them, I believe it's because FUN doesn't want their top position is filled by other guild. And I also can't blame the current guilds in #2 or #3, because I don't think they attend the discussion.

All I can say about this boycott is that FUN is laughing out loud. They don't have to spend gems as much as they used to. And so do the guilds that didn't attend the discussion, coz now might be the only opportunity to be on top guilds. All with the same reason; we never said we will refrain from buying/spending gems. And when this boycott doesn't make GREE change their way in running this game, these guilds will laugh louder.

Pophai
05-27-2013, 01:22 AM
What we should do is check Google and/or Youtube for easy ways how to be become "competitive". This is what will hurt GREE and FUN most.

Johan -
05-27-2013, 02:57 AM
Somehow, everyone is pointing the finger at FUN. But all is blind to trailing guilds! I.e Samurai blood, the fake RK, etc
Look closely and tell me who is adjusting the OB markers!
1st for FUN is to stay, the underdogs will not have their day!

I think we just have to forget the boycott story! It never had any chance of survival.
If many guilds including FUN & RK didn't agree with a war within 2 weeks and really wanted to protest against hackers, they just needed to sit this war out! talk about using less gems etc...all doesn't make any difference...

Of course many point their vinger also to FUN ( not always fair), but FUN is( was) the example Guild, the core group of KA, in my opinion, when they lead the list, the should also lead the protest.

"A boycott is an act of voluntarily abstaining from using, buying, or dealing with a organization as an expression of protest."

Of course FUN can always be the number 1 and I respect that, but when protests come in play, it doesn't matter which rank you end, it's about the goal you want to achieve. the bigger picture..

Well, good luck all with this subject!!

Dewsy
05-27-2013, 03:46 AM
I think overall, the gems usage is still around 70% of what it normally would be ( I didn't calculate it, so just an estimation)


I know it isn't as effective as a complete boycott, but a 30% reduction in revenues from an event will definitely set off alarms for a company. 30% is still significant.

alizainal
05-27-2013, 04:04 AM
I know it isn't as effective as a complete boycott, but a 30% reduction in revenues from an event will definitely set off alarms for a company. 30% is still significant.

That or GREE might throw wars every week to cope with the decrease of gem purchase. And throw events in between simustaneously. I for one, will love the wars every week.

NBK
05-27-2013, 04:16 AM
I never actually saw this complete "List" of guilds that were going GEM free! I apologize for remarks made about FUN as I've realized the last couple days that they weren't the ones on the list that said they were not going to use gems. It's too bad that this couldn't have been organized into a "No Battle War", maybe that's the problem!? We obviously enjoy this game for some reason or another otherwise we wouldn't be here arguing over this! Every guild that signed on to be gem free should be ashamed if they've used them for any reason!!! For the hundredth time TRKs pledge was to not use gems unless others broke their end of the bargain...so just like FUN never agreeing, we never agreed to completely and utterly not use them! Did anyone in the guilds from #1-#25 think that people weren't going to use Gems?!?! We thought there would be at least 1-2 top ten guilds that broke their agreement with the rest of you! I keep saying this but it's true, DON'T BE MAD AT THE GUILDS THAT USED GEMS WHEN THEY WEREN'T ON THE LIST IN THE FIRST PLACE! Get over it and move on, look at the guilds that pledged they wouldn't use them then ended up 2-10! If you think that these guilds have not you are probably too obtuse "not quick or alert in perception, feeling, or intellect; not sensitive or observant; dull." (For you select few who are included in this category)to hold a job or wipe your butt or take a shower! This is a joke and a moot point, wait till the end and see where people stand, and look to see if they signed the "list" before you strap them to the cross!!! If you hate the guilds, the wars, the people...your life then quit!!!
1 - Still waiting on GreeD to change our guild name
2 - Still waiting on GreeD to address my bonus program gems/gold for the last 3 months ago
3 - Still buying gems and should be treated like a valued customer...JUST LIKE THE REST OF YOU! I'm no different, so when you get down to the brass tax...BLAME GREE not players not guilds!!!

Cheers 🍻 NBK

If that's not good enough for you then here 🔫!

Johan -
05-27-2013, 04:24 AM
I know it isn't as effective as a complete boycott, but a 30% reduction in revenues from an event will definitely set off alarms for a company. 30% is still significant.

I agree, normally a 30% decrease would set off alarms, but as this is just a battle between the other battles which were 1x in a month, no alarm bells can go off yet..we first need to wait which direction and frequency the guild wars will go to...

NBK
05-27-2013, 04:27 AM
"There is only one boss. The customer. And he can fire everybody in the company from the chairman on down, simply by spending his money somewhere else."

Sam Walton

Cheers 🍻 NBK

Severoth
05-27-2013, 06:08 AM
This boycott has created a massive divide in the player base and guilds alike. You just need to look at these forums. So much hate here and it's all related to this boycott. It was suppose to be a stand against GREE but somehow it became something much worse. It became a weapon to use against the way other guilds and players decided to play the game. Somewhere along the line the true purpose was lost. It's sad really. The boycott was a failure long before the gems where being used.

Sigfried
05-27-2013, 07:19 AM
This boycott has created a massive divide in the player base and guilds alike. You just need to look at these forums. So much hate here and it's all related to this boycott. It was suppose to be a stand against GREE but somehow it became something much worse. It became a weapon to use against the way other guilds and players decided to play the game. Somewhere along the line the true purpose was lost. It's sad really. The boycott was a failure long before the gems where being used.

We still fight gem free. We blame the failure on FUN alone. We saw the HUGE difference between 1st and 2nd place when the war started. How many guilds would still be gem free if FUN hadn't started hitting them for ten of thousands of points. No honor so they get no respect. They are just rich bullies.

Mr Painite
05-27-2013, 08:31 AM
RK didn't you say no gems?

They just moved up 1mil points into 2nd place. Hmm.

alizainal
05-27-2013, 10:10 AM
They just moved up 1mil points into 2nd place. Hmm.

I know what will be the excuse: Other guilds broke the agreement. We said that if some guild(s) that agreed to boycott start using gems, we will start using too.

I can't wait to see BGK start burning gems. And that's how the boycott dissolves. And to the guilds that still refrain from spending, how much will you make a difference in this revolution?

E-I
05-27-2013, 10:17 AM
KTA is burning through gems too. I don't know if they agreed to the boycott though.

Sexy Calindra
05-27-2013, 10:25 AM
In a sense the boycott is still working since the numbers of points is much less compared to the previous wars. No? Am I mistaken? Anyway, the fact is, GREE got less money this time. Wonder how they will react.... Shut down the game? I hope not... Layoff other people, most likely.... I cant wait to see how they will do after this event...

E-I
05-27-2013, 10:34 AM
Anyway, the fact is, GREE got less money this time. Wonder how they will react.... Shut down the game? I hope not...

Or maybe just make the changes that were suggested weeks ago? :confused:

alizainal
05-27-2013, 10:38 AM
In a sense the boycott is still working since the numbers of points is much less compared to the previous wars. No? Am I mistaken? Anyway, the fact is, GREE got less money this time. Wonder how they will react.... Shut down the game? I hope not... Layoff other people, most likely.... I cant wait to see how they will do after this event...

For now, yes. Wait for when other guilds realize that RK and other guilds started burning gems already and their gem-free attitude will not be significant anymore compared to gems burnt by the guilds to return to their positions.

And if I were GREE, seeing this boycott is down, I will do whatever I wish. A war every week, or multiple events simultaneously. Go GREE, no guilds can stop you from doing these now. You're gonna make more money from their addiction to the game. Congratulations!!!

Sexy Calindra
05-27-2013, 10:45 AM
It is true that this game can be realyl addictive.... lollll I am still good since I never spent a penny in it... :)

They already admit that they are working hard to improve the game and give a better customer service! I sincerely doubt that they will ever admit they are wrong! Fixing issues because of a boycott which based on the last post is not longer effective...... Again, I have my doubts!

Addiction is sooooo good! loll

Sigfried
05-27-2013, 01:40 PM
To say nothing is changed is living in denial. The top ten are still the top ten, they are spending. Hundreds are not. Cash flow for Gree is down and a lot of our guild members are saying they like it this way, it takes more strategy and communication to win. With gems, if you lose it's no problem, spend gems. Without gems it is more interesting. Our guild usually goes through a lot of gems, several officers buy several vaults each. Not this war. Yet we are still going to place where we did 2 wars ago. Last war we did better - we spent more. But we will be okay with top 150 gem free. Let the top 10 spend all they want, they can't support Gree. And I do respect RK, we watched their numbers and they were gem free for quite a while, unlike FUN, who NEVER were.

Mr Painite
05-27-2013, 01:49 PM
To say nothing is changed is living in denial. The top ten are still the top ten, they are spending. Hundreds are not. Cash flow for Gree is down and a lot of our guild members are saying they like it this way, it takes more strategy and communication to win. With gems, if you lose it's no problem, spend gems. Without gems it is more interesting. Our guild usually goes through a lot of gems, several officers buy several vaults each. Not this war. Yet we are still going to place where we did 2 wars ago. Last war we did better - we spent more. But we will be okay with top 150 gem free. Let the top 10 spend all they want, they can't support Gree. And I do respect RK, we watched their numbers and they were gem free for quite a while, unlike FUN, who NEVER were.

RK said they were not going to spend and FUN said they were going to spend, but of the two you respect RK.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/112/480/OpoQQ.jpg

E-I
05-27-2013, 02:41 PM
Some members of RK were using gems on the first day. No doubt about it. They scored 330k cp on us. They have 56 members. Assuming an average of 400cp per attack (which is probably high) and ignoring the fact that they would expend some attacks on our wall, they would have to average 14.7 attacks per member that hour, or one every 4 minutes. And this also assumes that all 56 members were active for the battle, which is very unlikely.

NBK
05-27-2013, 06:25 PM
So it began as a novel idea to not use Gems. Sign your guild up and be gem free! HA HA HA, what a joke!!! You guilds that signed on and agree to this and then renege on your word, commitment and deal with all the other guilds that trusted you!!! SHAME! On all of you hypocrites that called out every guild the first couple days of the war for using gems!!! You are all a complete joke, if you have no honor here, in this fantasy land fake gaming world then you most likely have none in real life as well! THIS IS A GAME AND YOU CAN'T KEEP YOUR WORD BECAUSE YOU WILL LOSE YOUR PLACE AT THE HEAD OF THE TABLE!?!?! You are a the biggest bunch of foolish, careless, honorless slugs that should spend your money better...Do this, go online and search SOUL then pull out your credit cards and see if you can buy one! Bzzzzzz can't be done, and you'll never get back the one you sold to Gree to be better than number 25 this war! Glad to see all the hypocrites back in their respectful positions! I have no respect for slime that won't keep their word, you lemmings out there defending these people are just as big of a leech as the ones that suck from the teet of their leaders!

Cheers NBK

Here is a drink on me cuz this is all you slugs are worth! 

alizainal
05-27-2013, 07:05 PM
So it began as a novel idea to not use Gems. Sign your guild up and be gem free! HA HA HA, what a joke!!! You guilds that signed on and agree to this and then renege on your word, commitment and deal with all the other guilds that trusted you!!! SHAME! On all of you hypocrites that called out every guild the first couple days of the war for using gems!!! You are all a complete joke, if you have no honor here, in this fantasy land fake gaming world then you most likely have none in real life as well! THIS IS A GAME AND YOU CAN'T KEEP YOUR WORD BECAUSE YOU WILL LOSE YOUR PLACE AT THE HEAD OF THE TABLE!?!?! You are a the biggest bunch of foolish, careless, honorless slugs that should spend your money better...Do this, go online and search SOUL then pull out your credit cards and see if you can buy one! Bzzzzzz can't be done, and you'll never get back the one you sold to Gree to be better than number 25 this war! Glad to see all the hypocrites back in their respectful positions! I have no respect for slime that won't keep their word, you lemmings out there defending these people are just as big of a leech as the ones that suck from the teet of their leaders!

Cheers NBK

Here is a drink on me cuz this is all you slugs are worth! 

Where's the "like this" icon? Because I like this post very much

Samskill
05-27-2013, 09:16 PM
So it began as a novel idea to not use Gems. Sign your guild up and be gem free! HA HA HA, what a joke!!! You guilds that signed on and agree to this and then renege on your word, commitment and deal with all the other guilds that trusted you!!! SHAME! On all of you hypocrites that called out every guild the first couple days of the war for using gems!!! You are all a complete joke, if you have no honor here, in this fantasy land fake gaming world then you most likely have none in real life as well! THIS IS A GAME AND YOU CAN'T KEEP YOUR WORD BECAUSE YOU WILL LOSE YOUR PLACE AT THE HEAD OF THE TABLE!?!?! You are a the biggest bunch of foolish, careless, honorless slugs that should spend your money better...Do this, go online and search SOUL then pull out your credit cards and see if you can buy one! Bzzzzzz can't be done, and you'll never get back the one you sold to Gree to be better than number 25 this war! Glad to see all the hypocrites back in their respectful positions! I have no respect for slime that won't keep their word, you lemmings out there defending these people are just as big of a leech as the ones that suck from the teet of their leaders!

Cheers NBK

Here is a drink on me cuz this is all you slugs are worth! 

Wonder why you get so work up if win, lose or placement had no bearing on you? Sad.
game = enjoyment
Some guilds enjoy in winning,
Some enjoys in camping,
Some get enjoyment in hitting the position they are aiming.
It's a free world, let others play which ever way they think its enjoyable :)

Johan -
05-27-2013, 10:32 PM
Wonder why you get so work up if win, lose or placement had no bearing on you? Sad.
game = enjoyment
Some guilds enjoy in winning,
Some enjoys in camping,
Some get enjoyment in hitting the position they are aiming.
It's a free world, let others play which ever way they think its enjoyable :)

Of course not, I have a similar opinion as NBK, not is such harse words, but still in the same direction.
That the TOP10 guils have enough money to spend, they don't have to proof, we know that already.

The only thing what they needed to proof was to stand by their words, well they failed in that.
Same for FUN, to make a difference you have to act different and let your pride go, only way for succes was not participating in this war, that was a real stand, not a poor excuse, we will use less gems than normal....

This is the 1st war in 2 weeks time, I see replies, it made a difference......, well of course not, this was the 1st battle in such short time, there is nothing to compare with!!! after the next war, we can compare, count these 2 wars together and compare it with the previous war!! than I want to see the numbers and we can make a verdict.

It's funny to see, that even in a game people cannot take a stand, Many people should shout less and complain less here on the forum, because why complain to GREE, when they themselves not even can show the difference..

and about" It's a free world" yes it is, but when you take a stand, you make a commitment. Commitments are never free.

Anyway point is already proven if you ask me.

Thanks!

NBK
05-27-2013, 10:46 PM
Wonder why you get so work up if win, lose or placement had no bearing on you? Sad.
game = enjoyment
Some guilds enjoy in winning,
Some enjoys in camping,
Some get enjoyment in hitting the position they are aiming.
It's a free world, let others play which ever way they think its enjoyable :)

Actually I don't care how people play Sam, and I'm only worked up over liars, cheats and those that can't keep their word, whether its Gree or a guild or my mailman integrity means something and if you give your word in anything whether real life or fantasy land like here maybe you should keep it, otherwise your word really carried no weight at all and it will continue to be worthless in the future.

It your statement sounds like you have no clue what my point was or you live in a world where when someone gives their word it doesn't mean much. Maybe I'm just too old school and have too much integrity and honor to do what they've done!!! I'm glad you're ok with that but it's not how it's suppose to be! You obviously condone liars and people not keeping their word. I have no problem with people doing what they want and playing how they want! My problem is with people lying and saying they are not going to use gems and then being hypocrites and otherwise dishonorable after the fact. These same hypocrites were blasting players that were using gems and because there guild members were throwing a fit they decided to then back out and make up a BS excuse as to why they are now using gems!!! Everyone in the top 25 has used gems and I'm sure some outside top 25 have. I can blast who I want, when I want when it's true!!! It's still a free country where I live! This whole boycott was BS and the people that came up with it for this War are BS if they are using gems. Lets see where everyone ends up. Prolly where they were last war!

If you don't agree with or like Gree's business practices or are sick of the bickering then QUIT! QUIT the game and be happy, or maybe you are miserable and want to make others miserable I don't know. Just quit complaining and do something, quit, keep playing, go back to being a free player whatever! Don't do stupid SH and create a boycott that wasn't going to work in the first place. Just sitting there saying you had the best intentions at the beginning and you weren't going to use gems at all and then did is meaningless and you're a joke! This is directed at whomever it applies to based on what you did over the last 3 1/2 days of war. Get off your high horses and get over it...with out the BS excuses.

Cheers NBK

E-I
05-27-2013, 10:55 PM
For what its worth, one of the BGK guilds (the one lead by Black Gryffyn) also switched to gems.

46 members scored 266,136 cp. Assuming an average of 400 cp per attack (very high), they would need an average 14.5 attacks each, or one every 4.1 minutes. This also does not factor in any attacks wasted on the wall, and assumes that all 46 members were present.

Note that this does not speak to all BGK guilds. I saw one earlier that is definitely keeping true to the boycott.

NBK
05-27-2013, 11:02 PM
For what its worth, one of the BGK guilds (the one lead by Black Gryffyn) also switched to gems.

46 members scored 266,136 cp. Assuming an average of 400 cp per attack (very high), they would need an average 14.5 attacks each, or one every 4.1 minutes. This also does not factor in any attacks wasted on the wall, and assumes that all 46 members were present.

Note that this does not speak to all BGK guilds. I saw one earlier that is definitely keeping true to the boycott.

A lot of guilds will really kick it in high gear near the end! Wait and watch all the hypocrites...these will be the same people that were blasting and calling everyone else out!!!

alizainal
05-27-2013, 11:30 PM
A lot of guilds will really kick it in high gear near the end! Wait and watch all the hypocrites...these will be the same people that were blasting and calling everyone else out!!!

From the beginning of this so called revolution, I believed that it's just a strategy of top guilds to secure their position.
It started with the anxiety of top guilds caused by GREE throwing so many events simultaneously in short period of time. It requires lots of gems to stay on top, and gems requires money. However, money is not available all the time.
So, not everyone in those guilds have deep pockets. Top position is endangered, but they still wanna be on top. How to solve this?

So they got together and talked. Boycott came as a solution. They asked other lower guilds to follow the boycott. The lower guilds dont even know that they're being used (LOL). FUN said no to boycott. some others sticked with it, with a condition ofcourse, that they will start burn gems if any guild start using. a few swallowed the pact. They stick to it even now. Some pact huh?

FUN has the most benefit from this boycott. The amount of gems need to be spent is lower than half of they burnt from last 3-days war to stay on #1. Those guild who wait n see, find that last day is the day to start burning. It doesn't matter who started first, coz it'll be debatable. I feel sorry (and respect) for those guilds that showing honor and integrity, which still dont spending gems. But mostly sorry.

Anyway, those hypos achieved their true goal for this moment. Which is being in top guilds but not many gems have to be spent.

NBK
05-27-2013, 11:35 PM
From the beginning of this so called revolution, I believed that it's just a strategy of top guilds to secure their position.
It started with the anxiety of top guilds caused by GREE throwing so many events simultaneously in short period of time. It requires lots of gems to stay on top, and gems requires money. However, money is not available all the time.
So, not everyone in those guilds have deep pockets. Top position is endangered, but they still wanna be on top. How to solve this?

So they got together and talked. Boycott came as a solution. They asked other lower guilds to follow the boycott. The lower guilds dont even know that they're being used (LOL). FUN said no to boycott. some others sticked with it, with a condition ofcourse, that they will start burn gems if any guild start using. a few swallowed the pact. They stick to it even now. Some pact huh?

FUN has the most benefit from this boycott. The amount of gems need to be spent is lower than half of they burnt from last 3-days war to stay on #1. Those guild who wait n see, find that last day is the day to start burning. It doesn't matter who started first, coz it'll be debatable. I feel sorry (and respect) for those guilds that showing honor and integrity, which still dont spending gems. But mostly sorry.

Anyway, those hypos achieved their true goal for this moment. Which is being in top guilds but not many gems have to be spent.

You just hit the nail on the head!!! Your point would/will be argued by those involved! I don't believe in ghosts, the tooth fairy or the boogeyman, but I believe you are right my friend!

E-I
05-28-2013, 05:19 AM
From the beginning of this so called revolution, I believed that it's just a strategy of top guilds to secure their position.
It started with the anxiety of top guilds caused by GREE throwing so many events simultaneously in short period of time. It requires lots of gems to stay on top, and gems requires money. However, money is not available all the time.
So, not everyone in those guilds have deep pockets. Top position is endangered, but they still wanna be on top. How to solve this?

So they got together and talked. Boycott came as a solution. They asked other lower guilds to follow the boycott. The lower guilds dont even know that they're being used (LOL). FUN said no to boycott. some others sticked with it, with a condition ofcourse, that they will start burn gems if any guild start using. a few swallowed the pact. They stick to it even now. Some pact huh?

FUN has the most benefit from this boycott. The amount of gems need to be spent is lower than half of they burnt from last 3-days war to stay on #1. Those guild who wait n see, find that last day is the day to start burning. It doesn't matter who started first, coz it'll be debatable. I feel sorry (and respect) for those guilds that showing honor and integrity, which still dont spending gems. But mostly sorry.

Anyway, those hypos achieved their true goal for this moment. Which is being in top guilds but not many gems have to be spent.

Absolutely agree. It is no coincidence that the two guilds that have the most to gain from a large gem "boycott" are using gems.

Sexy Calindra
05-28-2013, 06:51 AM
It was written in the sky that this boycott would be benificial to the top guilds. This war is much less costly! However, I wonder how come the hackers players/guilds are not in the first place..... If people spend less, hackers should be kings? No? Perhaps there are no many hackers..... or too many in some top guilds... :) I am just throwing that in the debate. :)

Nacon10
05-28-2013, 07:50 AM
if there were a legit boycott gree would just shut the game down because it wasn't profitable . talkking about honor and not keeping their word about a video game is funny. you have given me a lot of entertainment through the weekend thanks all forum members.

Guido69
05-28-2013, 11:45 AM
@ NBK: You are quite a character and a joke.

It's an online game. If you take anything seriously what is said online in any forum... it is naive to say it nicely.

KA is a game that will be around for a limited time (like all the others). Enjoy it while you can, play it like you want, but don't tell people how to play it.

Kusa
05-28-2013, 01:52 PM
In the words of house everyone lies period!!!!

NBK
05-28-2013, 02:13 PM
@ NBK: You are quite a character and a joke.

It's an online game. If you take anything seriously what is said online in any forum... it is naive to say it nicely.

KA is a game that will be around for a limited time (like all the others). Enjoy it while you can, play it like you want, but don't tell people how to play it.

Hey Guido then why post your ignorance if its just a game and no big deal!? Play how you like well that's obvious, but in the beginning of this game there was a group that looked out for people and tried to help new players and had honor, dignity and character in how they handled themselves, but you are obviously too new or just too stupid to realize that! All these arguments and forums are here and done for THE GAME ya turd! You're about as smart as the rest of the lemmings!!! I've never told people how to play it, you must not be able to read too well, anyways my complaint was with the people hating on this forum for the wrong reason! Read all the posts over the last few days and maybe you will have a clue! You're a statement of how our educational system has failed! Good luck to you drooling all over your keyboard or phone and dragging your knuckles, lived you in the Geico commercials...You're the real joke Bro, making remarks without having a clue and your sentence is barely readable bro!

"It's an online game. If you take anything seriously what is said online in any forum... it is naive to say it nicely."

This statement makes no sense to me and I am now dumber for having read this! Thanks for nothing Guido!!!

NBK
05-28-2013, 02:28 PM
Hey Guido then why post your ignorance if its just a game and no big deal!? Play how you like well that's obvious, but in the beginning of this game there was a group that looked out for people and tried to help new players and had honor, dignity and character in how they handled themselves, but you are obviously too new or just too stupid to realize that! All these arguments and forums are here and done for THE GAME ya turd! You're about as smart as the rest of the lemmings!!! I've never told people how to play it, you must not be able to read too well, anyways my complaint was with the people hating on this forum for the wrong reason! Read all the posts over the last few days and maybe you will have a clue! You're a statement of how our educational system has failed! Good luck to you drooling all over your keyboard or phone and dragging your knuckles, lived you in the Geico commercials...You're the real joke Bro, making remarks without having a clue and your sentence is barely readable bro!

"It's an online game. If you take anything seriously what is said online in any forum... it is naive to say it nicely."

This statement makes no sense to me and I am now dumber for having read this! Thanks for nothing Guido!!!

Sorry one to two typos, damn small electronic keys on this iPhone!

Guido69
05-28-2013, 03:17 PM
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Case closed