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Assault and Flattery
07-18-2013, 01:04 PM
Hey guys,

We have a new type of lockbox/limited time goal fusion going on right now. Rather than have the typical collect 10 type of event, there are goals to complete along the way.

Here are the prizes/drops along the way:

Rioter's Bomb atk 25/def 16
Rioter's Rocket Launcher atk 27/def 22
Rioter's Mask atk 29/def 42
Rioter's Bottle atk 53/def 44
Rioter's Gloves atk 57/def 84
Rioter's Knife atk 112/ def 76
Rioter's Ride atk 138/ def 113
Rioter's Rod atk 198/ def 133

Collect them all to get this awesome prize:



http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/giiforums/08c9f0fe-e88f-4f99-9aaf-43d58fd86034_zps86943895.jpg?t=1374173224

Here are the prizes along the way for the lockbox:

3 Hidden Evidence ECPD Riot Helmet atk 64/def 96
5 Hidden Evidence Monday Morning Special atk 101/def 150
7 Hidden Evidence ECPD Baton atk 212/def 174
9 Hidden Evidence ECPD Patrol Car atk 267/def 219
10 Hidden Evidence Riot Control Explosive atk 1922/ def 1282 and 3% More Attack from Explosives


Basically, instead of the regular random items you get during lockbox events, you'll get random drops that help you complete the goals leading up to the grand prize.

Good luck!!

Fredfreddy
07-18-2013, 01:09 PM
cool addition, thanks!

Sideline Sal
07-18-2013, 01:15 PM
What do you mean by Tokens?

Assault and Flattery
07-18-2013, 01:17 PM
Sorry, edited. I say tokens as a catch all for event stuff when I can't remember what the individual names are.

teo
07-18-2013, 02:28 PM
Thanks for bringing something new.

The stale 'booby' prizes in the collect 10 was one of the things people asked to be looked at; thanks for listening.

itsshooter
07-18-2013, 03:05 PM
Does the car have a bonus?

Assault and Flattery
07-18-2013, 03:15 PM
No it does not.

BigMoney
07-18-2013, 03:27 PM
Appreciate the info, A&F (and the forum members who were able to come together yesterday to figure it all out too).

If I could ask a question though-- are the odds of earning a particular loot item the same? E.g. am I more likely to receive the Rioter's Bomb (25/16) than the Rioter's Rod (198/133)? Such info might affect my gold case open decisions.

Nicholas
07-18-2013, 04:50 PM
I keep getting the BOMB

tunka
07-18-2013, 06:14 PM
I keep receiving rioters gas mask the quest guidelines are very ambiguous I mean what exactly are we collecting at canal street? I don't mind tappin jobs but why am I doing it? Do I need to do this step to activate the "hide evedence event" I applaude the fact gree is mixing it up a bit but I and a lot of others I'm sure are confused on the requirements to complete....

BigMoney
07-18-2013, 06:17 PM
I keep receiving rioters gas mask the quest guidelines are very ambiguous I mean what exactly are we collecting at canal street? I don't mind tappin jobs but why am I doing it? Do I need to do this step to activate the "hide evedence event" I applaude the fact gree is mixing it up a bit but I and a lot of others I'm sure are confused on the requirements to complete....

You're not collecting anything on Canal Street, the PvE jobs are just one way to earn cases to open. The only "requirement" for the goal is for you to open the ECPD cases. When you get a loot item from one of them, it will be checked off in your goals.

Al32
07-18-2013, 06:17 PM
Thanks for the info

Thanker
07-18-2013, 06:28 PM
so far anyone receiving boob trap prizes like trick razor, 10k cash etc? (i have been getting blnt)

BigMoney
07-18-2013, 06:54 PM
so far anyone receiving boob trap prizes like trick razor, 10k cash etc? (i have been getting blnt)

No, don't think so.

S.o.B recruiter
07-18-2013, 07:03 PM
This is best event ever

Thanker
07-18-2013, 07:05 PM
No, don't think so.

Thanks BigMoney! guess I can suggest to gold users in my syn to try "spamming" gold on this then :P

The real cosmo
07-18-2013, 07:08 PM
I'm confused. I am up to 7 cases opened, but I have not received any rioter's items.

Thanker
07-18-2013, 07:11 PM
I'm confused. I am up to 7 cases opened, but I have not received any rioter's items.

I suppose getting the riot items is by chance? maybe the odds are not that good?

bald zeemer
07-18-2013, 07:47 PM
The green arrows were unrelated jobs. Most likely level mastery.

As stated earlier in this thread, and the other thread, canal st has nothing to do with the event, it's all case-opens.

cditti
07-18-2013, 07:47 PM
So far got 3 and 2 of them were the gloves. :(

Coconut
07-18-2013, 08:09 PM
I still can't understand how to get those thing in canal street or anywhere

RAYZOR
07-18-2013, 09:30 PM
MANY OF YOU ARE WONDERING HOW THIS EVENT WORKS, WITH ITS ADDED REWARD IN THE GOALS. YOU ARE TO OPEN BRIEFCASES AS YOU NORMALLY DO. IN OPENING YOU WILL RECEIVE EITHER A SORRY, EVIDENCE (YOU NEED 10 TO COMPLETE), OR A RANDOM WEAPON. THE TWIST THEY HAVE ADDED IS THAT YOU NEED TO COLLECT ALL THE RANDOM WEAPONS LISTED IN YOU GOALS TO GET THE BONUS PRIZE. CANAL STREET HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, IT JUST SENDS YOU THERE FOR SOME STUPID REASON... HERES THE LIST OF WHATS NEEDED:

1. Rioter's Bomb ( 25 / 16) - Explosive
2. Rioter's Ride (138 / 113) - Vehicle
3. Rioter's Rocket Launcher (27 / 22) - Gun
4. Rioter's Rod (198 / 133) - Gun
5. Rioter's Bottle (53 / 44) - Melee
6. Rioter's Knife (112 / 76) - Melee
7. Rioter's Mask (29 / 42) - Armor
8. Rioter's Gloves (57 / D84) - Armor

HOPE THIS HELPS

Emperor886
07-18-2013, 09:50 PM
MANY OF YOU ARE WONDERING HOW THIS EVENT WORKS, WITH ITS ADDED REWARD IN THE GOALS. YOU ARE TO OPEN BRIEFCASES AS YOU NORMALLY DO. IN OPENING YOU WILL RECEIVE EITHER A SORRY, EVIDENCE (YOU NEED 10 TO COMPLETE), OR A RANDOM WEAPON. THE TWIST THEY HAVE ADDED IS THAT YOU NEED TO COLLECT ALL THE RANDOM WEAPONS LISTED IN YOU GOALS TO GET THE BONUS PRIZE. CANAL STREET HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, IT JUST SENDS YOU THERE FOR SOME STUPID REASON... HERES THE LIST OF WHATS NEEDED:

1. Rioter's Bomb ( 25 / 16) - Explosive
2. Rioter's Ride (138 / 113) - Vehicle
3. Rioter's Rocket Launcher (27 / 22) - Gun
4. Rioter's Rod (198 / 133) - Gun
5. Rioter's Bottle (53 / 44) - Melee
6. Rioter's Knife (112 / 76) - Melee
7. Rioter's Mask (29 / 42) - Armor
8. Rioter's Gloves (57 / D84) - Armor

HOPE THIS HELPS

The button you're looking for is to the immediate left of the "a" key.

candyson
07-18-2013, 11:19 PM
I really like this new addition.

Fatherllama
07-18-2013, 11:32 PM
The button you're looking for is to the immediate left of the "a" key.

Nope, I'm pretty sure he found it.

bald zeemer
07-19-2013, 02:40 AM
Given that two people still asked questions directly answered in the OP, and in multiple replies, and multiple times in the other thread I think his use of caps is well and truly warranted.

What I want to know is why anyone would go to a text-based medium for answers if they are unable or unwilling to read?

THCraul
07-19-2013, 03:13 AM
nice Assault very nice event
I hope i cud win this car..............
sitting at 7/10 n 3/8

crixus
07-19-2013, 09:50 AM
Pretty cool addition

Jayo-XK1
07-19-2013, 11:26 AM
No gold spent and im 7/10 cases opened and 5/8 of the rioters weapons, not bad imo

Pierce
07-19-2013, 05:39 PM
This new kind of case opening event made it the cases exciting again!

The Fonz
07-19-2013, 06:00 PM
Just received mine :D

http://i42.tinypic.com/a4bu55.png

I did spend a bit of gold along the way (less than 200 total) and the last two items needed to unlock the vehicle were both cash opens. Started off using strictly cash opens, and when I received 2 BLNTs in a row, I switched to gold, but then I switched right back to the cash option after that (until the next BLNT). All hourly opens, with no timer resets.

Good luck to everyone.

Cooler
07-19-2013, 06:01 PM
I love new change to event!

out of names
07-19-2013, 06:49 PM
Just finished collect 10, 3/8 on collect 8 all cash opens, any chance ill finish the collect 8 with just cash opens?

candyson
07-19-2013, 07:36 PM
Just finished collect 10, 3/8 on collect 8 all cash opens, any chance ill finish the collect 8 with just cash opens?
You can still get it, if you can get around 10 more opens.
I'm at 8/10 and 7/8 using cash opens, so my chances seem very good.

Stooboot
07-19-2013, 09:48 PM
Awesome event just wish it wasn't so hard to open cases with out gold

Emperor886
07-19-2013, 10:29 PM
Awesome event just wish it wasn't so hard to open cases with out gold

My camper has used only 90 gold on this event and I've gotten all 10 evidence as well as 6/8 riot items. Not that hard without gold I'd wager.

candyson
07-19-2013, 10:57 PM
My camper has used only 90 gold on this event and I've gotten all 10 evidence as well as 6/8 riot items. Not that hard without gold I'd wager.
I'm farther than you and I haven't spent any gold. 10/10 evidence and 7/8 riot items.

crazymac
07-19-2013, 11:16 PM
10/10 evidence and 6/8 item with 4 repeats also missing bottle and bomb no gold spent on event

out of names
07-19-2013, 11:50 PM
10/10 evidence and 6/8 item with 4 repeats also missing bottle and bomb no gold spent on event
Same.here, except i need the mask and the knife, got 5 opens in a row then it stopped :(

crazymac
07-19-2013, 11:51 PM
trade?.....i wish

out of names
07-19-2013, 11:55 PM
Got 3 bottles one bomb, lets trade lol

crazymac
07-20-2013, 01:01 AM
just got the bottle my kingdom for the bomb

JonHanFord
07-20-2013, 01:08 AM
im already 7/10Evidences and 6/8 rioters
im stuck on 7.. 9 consencuutive opens all blnt cash option.

any idea or trick how to opened cash with high chances except for gold option?

someone said. if you internet is high speed, have high chances, but i have high speed internet but many tried opened is blnt

candyson
07-20-2013, 01:30 AM
im already 7/10Evidences and 6/8 rioters
im stuck on 7.. 9 consencuutive opens all blnt cash option.

any idea or trick how to opened cash with high chances except for gold option?

someone said. if you internet is high speed, have high chances, but i have high speed internet but many tried opened is blnt
I normally load up my syndicate page a few times and collect my laundromats right before I open. I have gotten all 10 evidences and 7/8 riot items doing this with cash opens. But in the end it all comes down to luck.

JonHanFord
07-20-2013, 01:43 AM
I normally load up my syndicate page a few times and collect my laundromats right before I open. I have gotten all 10 evidences and 7/8 riot items doing this with cash opens. But in the end it all comes down to luck.

okay thanks candyson. im going to try this.

crazymac
07-20-2013, 01:53 AM
i have better luck at night ...around this time.During days i get more blnt

Seppe
07-20-2013, 04:15 AM
so, no gold = no prizes.

Tried several briefcases. In the end I only got 3 evidences.
All the rest= "sorry ... blablabla"

bald zeemer
07-20-2013, 04:25 AM
That's some impressive persistence. What a rort that they don't hand out prizes for someone who tried to open "several" cases.

Hoeba
07-20-2013, 04:58 AM
Yesterday i got the 10th item explosive and just got the 8 th special item and so also the quick getaway. All cash openings so its possible for free

Random92
07-20-2013, 08:19 AM
I've been seeing some people with an ecpd night vision rifle,,,I've completed the case event a and collected the 8 items for the car and have not come across this rifle,can anyone comment on this,it has big stats,around 4000 att/deff

hydesd2
07-20-2013, 08:56 AM
No gold spent on this event 7/10 cases and just got my new sweet ride 8/8!

JonHanFord
07-20-2013, 09:01 AM
I've been seeing some people with an ecpd night vision rifle,,,I've completed the case event a and collected the 8 items for the car and have not come across this rifle,can anyone comment on this,it has big stats,around 4000 att/deff

its one of the prizes in syndicate war i guess...

budman68
07-20-2013, 09:01 AM
Only cash opens. I received my collect 10 explosive. Still need 1 more for the car though.

kuksluk
07-20-2013, 09:34 AM
7/10 all cash opens.... 3 tokens... best open rate of all collect-10 events since the beginning of time!

J Smooth
07-20-2013, 09:40 AM
Got my Riot Controll Explosive yesterday morning and the Quick Getaway a couple of minutes ago. I can finally enjoy a weekend for once. Lol

syris33
07-20-2013, 10:48 AM
Does anyone know if free or cash option have any influence on getting an item for bonus prize? I'm 10/10 on evidence so just need Rioter's bottle for car.

out of names
07-20-2013, 10:52 AM
Dont think there are any random items other than the items for the car this collect 10, cuz thats all i have gotten.. No cash, no trick razors( what i usually get)

Gingeasian
07-20-2013, 11:36 AM
10/10 for the hidden evidence and 6/8 for the car using cash opens

Jayo-XK1
07-20-2013, 12:38 PM
8/10 on cases and i just completed the evidence, ha! Nice prize, all cash opens

Chica
07-20-2013, 12:41 PM
You were suppuposta hide it.

out of names
07-20-2013, 05:45 PM
Finally got the quick getaway, all cash opens, but 251 xp for finishing the quest???

ckkoolman
07-20-2013, 05:58 PM
10/10 for extras, 8/8 rioters gear, my first event i really tried in, All cash opens

StrettyKid
07-21-2013, 01:18 PM
Just got the Quick Getaway :). All cash opens, probably about 16 opens per day.

Nicohd
07-21-2013, 02:45 PM
Well i got all 10 evidences and now the rioters gloves and ride is missing
Since i got all 10 evidences i didnt get anything
I opened 15 times or more after the 10 evidences and fot nothing
Can`t i get something after the evidences?
That would be very disappointing,because i just got 2 left fpr the quick getaway
Does anyone know if this is the case?
Lg

MrM
07-21-2013, 03:16 PM
Finally got the quick getaway, all cash opens, but 251 xp for finishing the quest???

Lol, you get a 5592 att/4577 def item and you're complaining about 251 xp???

Finished the event as well, no gold spent.

(CCK) Cam
07-21-2013, 03:17 PM
Lol, you get a 5592 att/4577 def item and you're complaining about 251 xp???

Finished the event as well, no gold spent.He might be the craziest camper ever, lol

out of names
07-21-2013, 03:28 PM
He might be the craziest camper ever, lol
Yep, lvl 19 with 3million att/def and over 5mil iph

bfspider
07-21-2013, 09:52 PM
Got everything for the collect 10.

Missing two items from the goal list.

Here is what I have so far, for you stat lovers:

1x Rioter's Gloves
4x Rioter's Rod
4x Rioter's Knife
2x Rioter's Bottle
4x Rioter's Mask
5x Rioter's Bomb
0x Rocket Launcher
0x Ride

Emperor886
07-21-2013, 10:37 PM
I'm no farmer, but I can smell manure a mile away...


Yep, lvl 19 with 3million att/def and over 5mil iph

19 * 5 = 95.
3,000,000/19 = 157,895.
157,895/5 = 31,579.

Good story though.

BigMoney
07-21-2013, 10:48 PM
Got everything for the collect 10.

Missing two items from the goal list.

Here is what I have so far, for you stat lovers:

4x Rioter's Rod
4x Rioter's Knife
2x Rioter's Bottle
4x Rioter's Mask
5x Rioter's Bomb
0x Rocket Launcher
0x Ride

I feel you, buddy.


0x Rioter's Rod
6x Rioter's Knife
5x Rioter's Bottle
3x Rioter's Mask
4x Rioter's Gloves
5x Rioter's Bomb
3x Rioter's Rocket Launcher
5x Rioter's Ride

bfspider
07-22-2013, 01:17 AM
forgot to add the gloves. been using gold opens. just get duplicates.

I feel you, buddy.


0x Rioter's Rod
6x Rioter's Knife
5x Rioter's Bottle
3x Rioter's Mask
4x Rioter's Gloves
5x Rioter's Bomb
3x Rioter's Rocket Launcher
5x Rioter's Ride

Rollster
07-22-2013, 01:26 AM
9/10 for extras, 7/8 rioters gear, I hope I win this since i never really get anything from these events

same here like many.. lol.. on main i got all 2 day's before end, all cash $.. on camper ? same like u.. not lucky ? not sure.. on this account i don't spend any gold but on main yes and got realy fast for free..

algorithme ? maybe ;)

captiva
07-22-2013, 01:59 AM
I am a free player and gotten this GateWay for free. Thanks GREE.

100% via the 2nd cash option.

Rollster
07-22-2013, 03:00 AM
10/10 ! 45 gold...

the last now 7/8, left 30 gold... lol.. free account !

dam i get the two for free on main.. why not here ! xD!

Bala82
07-22-2013, 03:01 AM
Finally got the car

Rollster
07-22-2013, 03:59 AM
Finally got the car

cool :) again another gloves for me ! need just one bottle... when ? never maybe ! 15 gold left after cash options.. :/

BigMoney
07-22-2013, 05:59 AM
I feel you, buddy.


0x Rioter's Rod
6x Rioter's Knife
5x Rioter's Bottle
3x Rioter's Mask
4x Rioter's Gloves
5x Rioter's Bomb
3x Rioter's Rocket Launcher
5x Rioter's Ride

Updated totals. Spent over a vault for that ****ing Rioter's Rod.

11x Rioter's Knife
13x Rioter's Bottle
8x Rioter's Mask
8x Rioter's Gloves
11x Rioter's Bomb
6x Rioter's Rocket Launcher
8x Rioter's Ride

and finally...
1x Rioter's Rod

Total: 65 rioter items before I got the ****ing Rod from GREE if you know what I mean.

cditti
07-22-2013, 06:40 AM
All I need is the rocket launcher got multiple of everything. Argh

Chica
07-22-2013, 08:18 AM
Need knife can I borrow one of yours big money?

BigMoney
07-22-2013, 08:36 AM
I would have gladly traded any of my Riot items long ago. :/

Butt Futter
07-22-2013, 08:55 AM
I feel you, buddy.


0x Rioter's Rod
6x Rioter's Knife
5x Rioter's Bottle
3x Rioter's Mask
4x Rioter's Gloves
5x Rioter's Bomb
3x Rioter's Rocket Launcher
5x Rioter's Ride


Holy crap dude. You are really unlucky. I spent a total of 800 gold for bomb and car.

punawa
07-22-2013, 08:57 AM
same here, one item missing for the last 30 hrs...i used the little gold I had left but no chance at all. How frustrating is it, just for one item.

Big Joe
07-22-2013, 09:06 AM
Holy crap dude. You are really unlucky. I spent a total of 800 gold for bomb and car.
Same boat. 800. Wasn't too happy about it. Especially hearing everyone here and in my own clan getting it for free. Oh well that's gree right? Sad part is I had all but the rocket launcher. Every cash open was better luck next time. I got more loot and case opens with the random free open I'd throw in there.

Butt Futter
07-22-2013, 09:21 AM
Same boat. 800. Wasn't too happy about it. Especially hearing everyone here and in my own clan getting it for free. Oh well that's gree right? Sad part is I had all but the rocket launcher. Every cash open was better luck next time. I got more loot and case opens with the random free open I'd throw in there.

I did it when the event just started. I got impatient so I'm not mad at the people who got it free. Did you wait or do it immediately?

Randolph
07-22-2013, 09:40 AM
So we found out that the launcher can be won by robbing a house or meat warehouse and then opening with the cash option. Any one have intell for the other items????

BigMoney
07-22-2013, 09:45 AM
Holy crap dude. You are really unlucky. I spent a total of 800 gold for bomb and car.

Finally got the Rod as my 66th loot item. Couldn't help but think how appropriately named it was.

reras
07-22-2013, 09:59 AM
spent around 240 gold total for all items, my second misses one special item for the car - all cash openings... guess im lucky

Chica
07-22-2013, 10:22 AM
So I decided what. Got $20 of gold as I was ready to have my next open and guess what?

Nicohd
07-22-2013, 11:24 AM
Honestly what the **** is this
i get 7 of every item and just the car is missing
I spend gold on that ****ty cases and no car came out
This is just not fair to become every item except one so i cant get the car
something is totally wrong with the system

(CCK) Cam
07-22-2013, 11:35 AM
Honestly what the **** is this
i get 7 of every item and just the car is missing
I spend gold on that ****ty cases and no car came out
This is just not fair to become every item except one so i cant get the car
something is totally wrong with the systemGold doesn't mean you have a 100% chance of getting the item you want. Lol. Go cry somewhere else. There is nothing wrong with the system.

Nicohd
07-22-2013, 11:48 AM
Gold doesn't mean you have a 100% chance of getting the item you want. Lol. Go cry somewhere else. There is nothing wrong with the system.

i dont cry its just very diappointing when you open alot of cases and get everything except of this one missing item
I know its not a 100 percent chance off getting this item
Its just disappointing to buy gold for something and then somithing like this happens
There should be at least a chance of getting a item,and i opened enough cases to see that this wasnt the case by me

(CCK) Cam
07-22-2013, 11:56 AM
i dont cry its just very diappointing when you open alot of cases and get everything except of this one missing item
I know its not a 100 percent chance off getting this item
Its just disappointing to buy gold for something and then somithing like this happens
There should be at least a chance of getting a item,and i opened enough cases to see that this wasnt the case by meReally? i use gold, and i still have 2 items missing. It's just a game, don't complain.

MichelleEvelyncc
07-22-2013, 11:59 AM
One more chance left to get both the car and bomb on my two accounts for free. One account has been 'stuck' on the Rioter's Knife for over a day now.

MichelleEvelyncc
07-22-2013, 11:59 AM
So we found out that the launcher can be won by robbing a house or meat warehouse and then opening with the cash option. Any one have intell for the other items????

I can't really believe that this is anything more than coincidence.

Randolph
07-22-2013, 12:06 PM
We crossed referenced it with 3 players now also the rocket launcher is confirmed through the french restaurant. It could be luck but its worth a try in these last hours right :-)

THCraul
07-22-2013, 12:27 PM
I cant get the ride since last 3 days just getting other items in multiple....stuck on 7/8
I only have one chance left let me know what to do (if there is anything i can do lol )

Chica
07-22-2013, 12:38 PM
I cant get the ride since last 3 days just getting other items in multiple....stuck on 7/8
I only have one chance left let me know what to do (if there is anything i can do lol )I was the same spent 15 gold got it lol.

nopenopenope
07-22-2013, 12:47 PM
I was stuck on the rocket launcher for about an entire 24 hours, but finally got the car on my last open with 30 mins left, all cash opens, with only ~32 cases opened total for the event.


#smug

murf
07-22-2013, 01:08 PM
I was stuck on the rocket launcher for about an entire 24 hours, but finally got the car on my last open with 30 mins left, all cash opens, with only ~32 cases opened total for the event.


#smug

Didn't get it on my main acct (both lower accts got it for free)...spent about 150 gold and got 35 Riot items but no Rioter's Rod.

jmeijer
07-22-2013, 01:18 PM
I got the last item with 1 minute on the clock. Lucky bastard, I know.

Grandpa
07-22-2013, 03:58 PM
Doing cash opens, I got to 10/10 on the cases and 7/8 on the lockbox two days ago. Spent the last three chances today doing (TJ) gold opens, but did not get the last item. Can't complain, though, this was still a great event for me.

IkkesNL
07-22-2013, 04:32 PM
Had around 300 boxes, and only 8 opens with the items.

but getting closer to the 10 :)

nico valentino
07-22-2013, 05:02 PM
Seems i was more fortunate then others. I got the getaway car with a day and a half left in event without spending a dime. Victory is sweet because this marks the first time i completed an event and got atleadt a 10k boost to attack and defense

The real cosmo
07-22-2013, 05:15 PM
Followed someone's advice from this forum and spent 150 gold early mixed with cash opens and was up to 7 cases immediately with 0 rioter's gear, then got 4 right away; then 3 more and nine cases the next day.

Spent 50 gold to wrap up both prizes, and for 2 days collected rioter's gear. Never saw any cash, respect or non rioter's gear for whole event and after 10 did not get any opened cases.

Wondering if this is the new format for 10 case events. If so, this and Ltb will become the new camper dynamic.