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Joie
08-20-2013, 10:56 AM
Lets see how long this thread can get before we get a response

Joie

jchow69
08-20-2013, 11:03 AM
Me, I am at level 50, don't wanna level up until boss event starts. Also, the prizes are horrible to XP gained.

Bluedood
08-20-2013, 11:13 AM
Myself and most members of my guild. Xp is not in line with rewards.

Cru Jones
08-20-2013, 11:20 AM
Sitting out. Under level 100. Total stat gains actually look pretty good but TERRIBLE on a per level basis. I average 260 hit strength and would acquire about 49,207 total XP just to get through normal mode according to the spreadsheet. Nonsense.

willb125
08-20-2013, 11:38 AM
Me. Level 168. Stats are a joke for the XP.

Alexius
08-20-2013, 11:40 AM
Both of my players and both of my guilds are passing on this one.

Shluggy
08-20-2013, 11:41 AM
Yep, taking a back seat, putting my feet up and enjoying the time off. Don't change the XP Gree please, I feel like I'm on holiday!! I wonder when the withdrawal symptoms are gunna kick is??

Cola3
08-20-2013, 11:42 AM
I stopped at 28 when I learned and saw that 29 had an outrageous XP per hit. Not touching it unless the XP changes.

mtlfce
08-20-2013, 11:47 AM
Stopped after my first attack at level 10. Rewards are garbage, and for the xp I may as well solo a gltq.

sister morphine
08-20-2013, 11:52 AM
I started level 29, but unlikely to progress further unless things change. 175 xp per hit on mobs needing a whole lot of hits to take down is ridiculous. :( :(

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y503/SisterMorphine63/null_zpsc2e35806.png

I have 204 hero strength and 139 attack skill. It cost well over 1000 energy to knock down the first of these treants, so maybe 2000 xp give or take. 8000 xp for one level is totally out of order

Kidder
08-20-2013, 11:53 AM
I'm not playing this LTQ until gree at least puts out a statement on why the experience is so high. And maybe on their plan to not make leveling a punishment in almost every way....

Silent follower
08-20-2013, 12:07 PM
Everybody in our 40+ person guild stopped. The furthest somebody played was 15/40. Most stopped at 1/40 when hearing the ridiculous XP gain from this LTQ.

Hanwalker
08-20-2013, 12:16 PM
Skipping it.

JayPeAce
08-20-2013, 12:21 PM
Myself and my guild are sitting out this as well...

phopjon
08-20-2013, 12:24 PM
Me, most of my LLP guild, some of my HLP guild.

I actually don't mind Gree making the XP more punitive for LTQs. It would add an element of strategy. I just want to be sure that this is consistent, so I'm fine sitting this one out to find out.

Spi
08-20-2013, 12:27 PM
Indeed when I got to 29, looked at the sheet and wondered why nobody finished Heroic yet?

Well it is clear why.

All my guild has got note to stop playing as well

lesnar
08-20-2013, 12:35 PM
I'm waiting at 29/40 normal till I hear whether they are going to fix it or not. I will complete the ltq either way but don't want to regret if they decide to fix the xp like last time.

RandomUser
08-20-2013, 12:38 PM
I stopped at 28 when I learned and saw that 29 had an outrageous XP per hit. Not touching it unless the XP changes.



^^ This.

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Shinazueli
08-20-2013, 01:13 PM
Everyone I know is sitting this one out. This is not the way, Gree.

MadMaxx61
08-20-2013, 01:14 PM
Yep most if not all of my 42 member T200 guild stopped.

tonyy1
08-20-2013, 01:35 PM
lol honestly I recommended the low level players start so when the next war comes they wont end up 0 / 1000000 because they keep getting picked on by other guilds being low level and having crappy units. they can't afford much as of now, so they are focusing on IPH and units from the ltq, higher levels I suggest skipping it

Sportsgrunt
08-20-2013, 01:38 PM
I'm sitting it out got to level 20/40 normal and said forget it. I'm done with it.

tonyy1
08-20-2013, 01:41 PM
why strictly because of the high xp gained? I can only assume everyone is saying that the xp will put them in a place where they don't necessarily want to be against players that leveled much slower and have the units to back it up?

mmalkove
08-20-2013, 01:51 PM
I made a mistake and played this one do to my low stats,I was thinking I can't afford to miss any units since I already have trouble finding targets during battles against top 25 guilds with only around 1 million attack. But I am afraid it was at he cost of many levels so far...I regret it. My points will be even lower now :mad:

GoGoGadgetSword
08-20-2013, 01:54 PM
I'm sitting this one out and so are most of my guild mates.

Racr-X
08-20-2013, 01:55 PM
We are all sitting this one out. Too much XP and the prizes suck!

mmalkove
08-20-2013, 01:56 PM
wow, 40/40 gives 312 exp. per hit! I think I am done now as well. I wish I would have quit 2 level gains ago, no more gems from me.

Tigertiger55
08-20-2013, 02:09 PM
Quit at 10/40. First I've sat out for months. Free time, it's great, try it

Person
08-20-2013, 02:42 PM
sitting at 28/40 until they change it, no point in pushing myself over the cliff into the whale zone :D

Murderer of Bunnies
08-20-2013, 02:44 PM
I stopped after lvl 28 to much XP

Metajetta
08-20-2013, 02:54 PM
Hit the 10/40 normal, looked up and saw my "Magnus the great (H)" zombie mob that was still floating around from THAT unfinished quest. I'm only a couple levels higher - Magnus had one hit and HIS HP bar looked the [i]same[\i].

For 138 XP per hit? No thank you.

Back to looking for gold to feed my my gnome lab... :D

The rest of my guild (20 members, top 750) is sitting it out as well.

phopjon
08-20-2013, 02:55 PM
why strictly because of the high xp gained? I can only assume everyone is saying that the xp will put them in a place where they don't necessarily want to be against players that leveled much slower and have the units to back it up?

Hey Tony, the way these PVE LTQs have been structured you can usually improve for relatively small gain in levels, especially the recent ones. You don't want to level up too quickly because a) you want to avoid running in to a significantly stronger group of rivals and b) the higher your level, the lower your point totals in guild wars. It's an odd system that punishes you for playing the game, one that Gree should figure out and address.

Cola3
08-20-2013, 02:56 PM
I tried hitting that level 29 monster once and it looks like I need 10 or 11 hits to kill it...and there's 4 of them. So 194 x 10 =1940 x 4 = approximately 8,000/9000 XP

LegoLass
08-20-2013, 03:08 PM
Sitting it out, most in guild doing the same.

Metajetta
08-20-2013, 03:13 PM
Ironically I've been leveling slow for quite a while to get my stats and income more in line - was all ready this LTQ cycle to go a little XP mad! But there's always another LTQ. ;)

Sigfried
08-20-2013, 03:24 PM
Our 2 guilds are sitting it out. Most people went about 8-10 levels into it and started complaining. We'll just wait for the next event to come by. Horrible XP for the units. Gree is just getting lazy it seems, not putting any thought or concern for users into what they are putting out. The last 3 war starts have been bad and these events are further proof that they have internal issues to work out.

Jerusalem
08-20-2013, 04:23 PM
Undoubtedly the most asinine of the LTQs thus far, and anyone (other than those who are lvl 200) foolhardy enough to finish it will apprehend its grim effect during the next guild wars. Accordingly, all 48 members of my guild are opting out of this very poorly conceived quest.

John 3013
08-20-2013, 04:31 PM
The entire guild of Kingdom of Legends (1-8) is sitting out ... and our entire feeder system. That's 8 guilds in total.

John1968
08-20-2013, 04:47 PM
The Dragon Warriors as a guild are sitting this one out, except for our level 200 players. Greedy Gree strikes again!

Hersh
08-20-2013, 05:35 PM
I stopped at level 4, when it hit 52xp a hit.

My whole guild is sitting this out.

Nacon10
08-20-2013, 05:50 PM
this ltq is a repeat glitch with a previous ltq involving the coliseum . the exp rewrd for a enemy kill is equal to exp gained per hit. if you all send in tickets this can be resolved quickly so we can get back to hacking down monsters.

Alexius
08-20-2013, 05:57 PM
this ltq is a repeat glitch with a previous ltq involving the coliseum . the exp rewrd for a enemy kill is equal to exp gained per hit. if you all send in tickets this can be resolved quickly so we can get back to hacking down monsters.
I sent a ticket and they said they're looking into it. This was as of 5 hours ago.

Thomaskingdom
08-20-2013, 06:02 PM
The Guild of Sweet Queen has sat this ltq out as well.

Skyraiders
08-20-2013, 06:12 PM
the strategy of sitting this one out is ok.....however gree is waiting to fix this event half way through.....forcing you to spend to complete the event in time...LOL.....brilliant!!!

If there is no fix well...whatever I am high enough in level that it really doesn't matter if I sit it out or not....still not gonna change the CP I get during war time

TFO Sir Skip
08-20-2013, 06:28 PM
Count me out as well unless something changes... Ridiculous

Perfuzzie
08-20-2013, 06:30 PM
5 days of relaxation :) finally :D

JoeDaddy
08-20-2013, 06:34 PM
Thanks to this wonderful community, I currently sit on 1/40 with not one monster slain and not 1 xp gained. I have no problem playing the game actively, but I'm leveling as slowly as possible until it someday magically becomes worth it to level up. Until then... I'm selecting my LTQ's accordingly. Get with the program GREE, you're slowly strangling your golden goose.

taxman
08-20-2013, 06:35 PM
Probably better question is what underlying level 200 person is unwise enough to do this quest.

OM-Kingdom Age
08-20-2013, 07:09 PM
Not gonna gain xp and level quickly.. Not worth my effort or time.. Thank you Gree for the break...

custos
08-20-2013, 07:46 PM
I stopped at level 4, when it hit 52xp a hit.

My whole guild is sitting this out.

This must have been fixed. I'm doing level 21 and the mobs there are 20 XP per hit.

Vaevictis
08-20-2013, 07:46 PM
I am sitting it out. Giving a nice break and allowing for some guild recruitment time. Very nice actually.

Hersh
08-20-2013, 07:58 PM
Naw, just checked. Do a couple more levels :P

F3RGU50N
08-20-2013, 09:26 PM
I saw they have lowered the level completion XP gain, but the per hit XP is still too high.

Master Stormzs
08-20-2013, 09:48 PM
I'm sitting this one out for sure. Like everyone else that had mentioned the stat gain per xp / level is not worth it.

serena
08-20-2013, 09:49 PM
Myself and all other members of my guild are not participating in this one.

Shinazueli
08-20-2013, 09:57 PM
Here's a question: when will they stop trying to do this? We aren't going to not monitor the xp in an LTQ. So please stop trying to slide it in without us noticing. It doesn't work for college dudes, and it won't work for a game developer.

Valid or
08-20-2013, 10:45 PM
First ltq I have not even tried on. Gave up on a few box events..but this one..it's not worth the levels. Everything from ltq boss fights to pvp are very level dependent,the lower the level, the better on it all.

P4TR1C14N
08-20-2013, 11:53 PM
Look... Gree went once more in silence mode :)

Would they survive 1 year in a B2B environment? Answer... No way.

Such a potential... Such a mismanagement... Such a rip off of the community. Internet really has turned upside down the world and how people reason. Incredible what ppl do accept and what such companies as gree (not only gree) can afford. In normal business i think they would need 100 lawyer to handle non stop lawsuits from customers. In internet its another world...

Back on topic... Great LTQ... Gree knows how to develop a game in order to make sure their community stays alive by giving them every two days a great reason to complain.

The choice is easy... To play or not to play.

Johan -
08-20-2013, 11:55 PM
Here's a question: when will they stop trying to do this? We aren't going to not monitor the xp in an LTQ. So please stop trying to slide it in without us noticing. It doesn't work for college dudes, and it won't work for a game developer.

I think a simple answer can be written:

80% of the KA players never visit the KA forum and for sure 60% of them don't even notice the XP gain.
We will find many more higher level players after this quest.

Shinazueli
08-21-2013, 01:31 AM
I think a simple answer can be written:

80% of the KA players never visit the KA forum and for sure 60% of them don't even notice the XP gain.
We will find many more higher level players after this quest.

I didn't even get a laugh. Tough crowd.

Danthorne
08-21-2013, 01:40 AM
Yup, sitting out with both accounts.

Cantley
08-21-2013, 02:02 AM
our guild decided not worth it. little return for a lot of xp

Forest Wind
08-21-2013, 04:23 AM
Not playing this LTQ too.

DragCro
08-21-2013, 07:42 AM
I stoped at lv 22 normal..Doesnt worth to finish it,to much exp gain,and top unit have low stats

tonyy1
08-21-2013, 07:52 AM
I think a simple answer can be written:

80% of the KA players never visit the KA forum and for sure 60% of them don't even notice the XP gain.
We will find many more higher level players after this quest.

to finish any of the LTQ's I'm guessing that you have to spend gems? and most of the gem spenders do pay attention to the XP gain (I would assume) and I would say you are correct about the 80% not visiting the forum...... but if they did who would be pick on?

King Ben
08-21-2013, 08:22 AM
Just a hypothesis, what if all future LTQs come with high XP? What if this is a new operating model for LTQ? I saw a posting elsewhere quoting response from support that the XP is not a glitch so this hypothesis could be true. The previous iLTQ and gLTQ likewise yielded loads of XP given the number of monsters to kill. Thus the basis for the hypothesis. If mod could address this, most appreciated.

For the time being I have paused at the level where 1 hit yield 183 XP. Yet decided if I will 'un pause' .....

E-I
08-21-2013, 08:43 AM
Bring on the XP Gree!

E-I
08-21-2013, 08:45 AM
XP is Gree's way of saying I love you.

Jerusalem
08-21-2013, 09:07 AM
Just a hypothesis, what if all future LTQs come with high XP? What if this is a new operating model for LTQ? I saw a posting elsewhere quoting response from support that the XP is not a glitch so this hypothesis could be true. The previous iLTQ and gLTQ likewise yielded loads of XP given the number of monsters to kill. Thus the basis for the hypothesis. If mod could address this, most appreciated.

For the time being I have paused at the level where 1 hit yield 183 XP. Yet decided if I will 'un pause' .....

My guess is that you're spot on, King Ben. But an operating model is maintained only so long as it works (i.e., generates profit). If it proves not to work, then a new model is adopted.

Assuming this is true, Gree should make an official announcement in order for everyone to understand that this is how it will be, moving forward. Such an announcement will also serve to avoid further unnecessary pauses in play and loss of potential revenue in the interim.

Judging by their silence, however, Gree is either too scared to make an announcement or is very likely intending this shift in operating model as merely a test to address/resolve long standing issues surrounding leveling and the future of the game.

Alexius
08-21-2013, 09:15 AM
Even so, if the units continue to be only another 50k a/d per LTQ with no bonuses giving you 10 levels each its best to stay put and wait for everyone to level up and pound them. What's the incentive to gain that much xp?!

Jerusalem
08-21-2013, 09:30 AM
Even so, if the units continue to be only another 50k a/d per LTQ with no bonuses giving you 10 levels each its best to stay put and wait for everyone to level up and pound them. What's the incentive to gain that much xp?!

Great point, Alexius.

Again, if King Ben's hypothesis about the shift in the XP model is true, your strategy is viable only until other people's stats overtake yours (of course, this could take awhile). Remember, you can't camp forever, particularly if you're in a guild and participating in the wars - you'll eventually have no targets unless new rivals ascend to your level with lower stats.

Alexius
08-21-2013, 09:44 AM
Right now my lowest account is over 7k/lvl. It could take a year at that rate :D plus, I'd still get war bonuses the way it's set up. So they'd have to catch me while very few of them are getting bonuses the way that I am. I like the odds! If this was Chess, gree would be in check and they're on the clock.

King Ben
08-21-2013, 09:48 AM
Hi Jerusalem,

I too hope Gree mod will address if this will be the operating model adopted, with standard clause that it is subjected to changes. I doubt this announcement will happen. Tough decision but I am guessing I may 'un pause'. To players reading this, I have no intention to influence your decision whether to do the LTQ. Just putting out in the open a hypothesis which could very well be wrong.

For level 200 players, the LTQ should make you happen since at this moment, XP gain has no implications for you. Good one for you, some minor balancing for your 'disadvantage' in CoK.

Cheers!!!


My guess is that you're spot on, King Ben. But an operating model is maintained only so long as it works (i.e., generates profit). If it proves not to work, then a new model is adopted.

Assuming this is true, Gree should make an official announcement in order for everyone to understand that this is how it will be, moving forward. Such an announcement will also serve to avoid further unnecessary pauses in play and loss of potential revenue in the interim.

Judging by their silence, however, Gree is either too scared to make an announcement or is very likely intending this shift in operating model as merely a test to address/resolve long standing issues surrounding leveling and the future of the game.

King Ben
08-21-2013, 09:56 AM
Hi Alexius,

Should there be gLTQ like the previous one killing thousands of monsters, there may be pressure to partake and increase XP exponentially. I am hoping my hypothesis is wrong, but not hopeful. Cheers and have fun !!!



Right now my lowest account is over 7k/lvl. It could take a year at that rate :D plus, I'd still get war bonuses the way it's set up. So they'd have to catch me while very few of them are getting bonuses the way that I am. I like the odds! If this was Chess, gree would be in check and they're on the clock.

Jerusalem
08-21-2013, 09:57 AM
Right now my lowest account is over 7k/lvl. It could take a year at that rate :D plus, I'd still get war bonuses the way it's set up. So they'd have to catch me while very few of them are getting bonuses the way that I am. I like the odds! If this was Chess, gree would be in check and they're on the clock.

Then you're sitting pretty, Alexius. :o

Jerusalem
08-21-2013, 10:06 AM
Hi Alexius,

Should there be gLTQ like the previous one killing thousands of monsters, there may be pressure to partake and increase XP exponentially. I am hoping my hypothesis is wrong, but not hopeful. Cheers and have fun !!!

Just as with the individual, the guild can choose not to participate in GLTQs, and likewise resulting in the same implications accompanying the individual's choice of non-participation.

Alexius
08-21-2013, 10:07 AM
Hi Alexius,

Should there be gLTQ like the previous one killing thousands of monsters, there may be pressure to partake and increase XP exponentially. I am hoping my hypothesis is wrong, but not hopeful. Cheers and have fun !!!

Thanks King Ben. I already know that my HLP account will be worthless by next year. Once I get to level 200 and am with the FUN's and Royal Knights of the world I'd be hard pressed to keep any gold to myself. I'm taking drastic steps to keep my level low. ;).

Sigfried
08-21-2013, 10:24 AM
Still giving as much XP as yesterday, another day to myself as I don't have to do this expensive LTQ in my free time.

zach123
08-21-2013, 11:04 AM
British warlords including the whole guild is sitting out this ltq since we are low level powerhouses and don't want to level.

Weepit
08-21-2013, 12:11 PM
This quest is a joke. Seriously testing my patience, maybe they want people to quit?

Between the recent crappy quests, the horrible graphics (which never change or get better) and the foolishness of gem prices I don't know why I still play. There must be a better app out there like KA, I just am too lazy to look. What a massive disappointment this game has become.

pendentive
08-21-2013, 01:42 PM
GREE has apparently lowered the XP. Check the forum.

Those that waited - we salute you.

Jerusalem
08-21-2013, 02:01 PM
Great sit-out campaign that resulted in the right decision by Gree.

"The customer is always right."