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procsyzarc
08-29-2013, 02:25 PM
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Very tough event to balance and make fair on low guilds without making it ridicoulsly easy for top guilds

NinjaHonu
08-29-2013, 02:36 PM
wtf..... already! nicely done sir.

General Soviet
08-29-2013, 02:38 PM
You've gotta be kidding me, people are already done and it's been an hour and a half since start time, haha! Good job to your guild.

Person
08-29-2013, 02:42 PM
ill bet you 3 mountains the next one is going to be at least 3x as tough :)

seriously, i could one hit lvl 10 and 20 xD

procsyzarc
08-29-2013, 02:44 PM
Definitely will be tougher. One person can solo boss 60 without gems

P4TR1C14N
08-29-2013, 02:49 PM
Its easy to finish if you throw gems on it... Its a sport to do it for free.

As we are too fat.. We chose to do some sport exercises in killing bosses hehe. Slow but steadily

VVolf
08-29-2013, 02:54 PM
Its easy to finish if you throw gems on it... Its a sport to do it for free.

As we are too fat.. We chose to do some sport exercises in killing bosses hehe. Slow but steadily

Agreed. Gems take away all the challenge. I suspect even without gems many guilds should be able to get it within the 5 day event.

Pshhh...exercise... I click on my screen all day. That activity has to count for something right?

mtlfce
08-29-2013, 02:55 PM
To the guilds that are finished... Did you keep track of how many orbs you used in total?

procsyzarc
08-29-2013, 03:08 PM
Its easy to finish if you throw gems on it... Its a sport to do it for free.

As we are too fat.. We chose to do some sport exercises in killing bosses hehe. Slow but steadily

Not sure about others but I was near the top in rankings and I only used 50 gems and even that was only trying to work out how to get loot off the L100 boss.

Gems aren't really needed when you have 50+ members hitting in the millions and -70% hp regen

P4TR1C14N
08-29-2013, 03:18 PM
Not sure about others but I was near the top in rankings and I only used 50 gems and even that was only trying to work out how to get loot off the L100 boss.

Gems aren't really needed when you have 50+ members hitting in the millions and -70% hp regen

Yes and no... You forget the -70% regen is not for every guild a fact... And indeed... If you got stats in millions, your damage is proportional also bigger. Fact is only top guilds got top stats.

So i think it's maybe a perfect doable event for top guilds. For other guilds it will still be a nice challenge to do it for free.

Ps: nicely done on finishing... You can go to bed hehe

NinjaHonu
08-29-2013, 03:21 PM
Yes let's NOT up the difficulty for the next raid boss event... Maybe just make it a lot harder for all the top 25 guilds... LOL.

Darth Randy
08-29-2013, 03:25 PM
Please, it would be real nice to know the total orb cost for this event to be completed, thank you!

Darth Randy
08-29-2013, 03:39 PM
I wonder if power players are going to start jumping around to help guilds finish similar to the event that just ended?

procsyzarc
08-29-2013, 03:42 PM
I wonder if power players are going to start jumping around to help guilds finish similar to the event that just ended?

Lol $200 and I will solo the event for your guild.......

Darth Randy
08-29-2013, 03:54 PM
Lol $200 and I will solo the event for your guild.......

Do you take Kingdom Express?

RATHER DRUNK
08-29-2013, 04:37 PM
We have done 24 twice now. Game is stuck for all of guild won't move on to 25. We also dont get the rewards. Tickets submitted. Will we get an answer before event ends ??

KLO
08-29-2013, 04:52 PM
We are on Level 24 of 30 on the quest. Need to kill Level 100 boss once in under 2 hours. We did that! Still on 24/30. So we summoned another L100. We again killed in well under 2 hours. We are still on 24/30. Stuck on Level 24. Wasting gems and orbs and nothing to show for it.

Is anybody else experiencing that? Can Gree support comment on this issue??

travelingsalesman
08-29-2013, 05:00 PM
Stuck on 24/30, this needs to be addressed! Pronto! There are tickets submitted.

Sparky14
08-29-2013, 05:20 PM
TAG (The Assassins Guild) finished about 45 minutes ago.

Dionysos
08-29-2013, 05:21 PM
The picture shows the player have 26k gems wtf Is he a biljonaire not knowing what to do with his money. And give it al to gree. Nice man maybe there is someting left on his bank account
Do you want my bank number I want 26k off gems also

NinjaHonu
08-29-2013, 05:37 PM
The picture shows the player have 26k gems wtf Is he a biljonaire not knowing what to do with his money. And give it al to gree. Nice man maybe there is someting left on his bank account
Do you want my bank number I want 26k off gems also

His money his choice. That's what it takes to be in the top 10. People don't talk sht to you because you don't have gems. Why you got to put down people who buy gems. With 40% off you can spend $1020 and get 40500 gems. You should thank him.... without people like that this wouldn't be a free game for you.

Ravanger
08-29-2013, 05:38 PM
Just a question for the guilds that have Finnish the quest do the boss still stay so you can fight and hope to get a side prize ?

Darth Randy
08-29-2013, 05:42 PM
The picture shows the player have 26k gems wtf Is he a biljonaire not knowing what to do with his money. And give it al to gree. Nice man maybe there is someting left on his bank account
Do you want my bank number I want 26k off gems also

And I wondered how Obama keeps getting elected.

Voxker
08-29-2013, 07:02 PM
I went to work as the event was out, 3 hours later or so, 4 days and 20 hours left in the event, its done, and were top 25... like 48k/60k unit with a bonus +30% infantry attack seems like an over kill, despite the lvl 100 boss only having 750million hp... which can killed in a matter of minutes, especially with this 40% off gold bags and gem bags, but im not complaining :D

C-Clone
08-29-2013, 07:38 PM
Just a question for the guilds that have Finnish the quest do the boss still stay so you can fight and hope to get a side prize ?

Yes, you can continue to fight bosses after the GLTQ is finished.

P4TR1C14N
08-29-2013, 07:55 PM
I went to work as the event was out, 3 hours later or so, 4 days and 20 hours left in the event, its done, and were top 25... like 48k/60k unit with a bonus +30% infantry attack seems like an over kill, despite the lvl 100 boss only having 750million hp... which can killed in a matter of minutes, especially with this 40% off gold bags and gem bags, but im not complaining :D

Thanks for being so great... Sighhh... Next time gree makes it 50 times harder based on comments like yours...

NO, its not easy for the majority off guilds! There is more as top25 in ka... So also think about those players a bit that dont throw a mountain gems in it etc...

Darth Randy
08-29-2013, 08:28 PM
This won't be easy for most guilds. Our guild is a top 300 and its going to take more spending than I'm used to I think.

ELVIS2K13
08-29-2013, 08:46 PM
The picture shows the player have 26k gems wtf Is he a biljonaire not knowing what to do with his money. And give it al to gree. Nice man maybe there is someting left on his bank account
Do you want my bank number I want 26k off gems also

Bonus program buddy

Rastlin
08-29-2013, 10:56 PM
The picture shows the player have 26k gems wtf Is he a biljonaire not knowing what to do with his money. And give it al to gree. Nice man maybe there is someting left on his bank account
Do you want my bank number I want 26k off gems also
Ummm it is called the gem bonus program. I can't wait for Sunday. ;)

captainpony
08-29-2013, 11:07 PM
Ummm it is called the gem bonus program. I can't wait for Sunday. ;)
I haven't seen a splash screen for a gem bonus this week. Is there one every week?

Barcele
08-29-2013, 11:09 PM
Ummm it is called the gem bonus program. I can't wait for Sunday. ;)

More like it's called the gem bonus program+gem sales+itunes giftcard sales
Itune gift cards are on sale rght now. Load up on a bunch of gems, buy them now so you get extra gems for the same money spent to make your bonus minimum. Done

SF Shadow87
08-30-2013, 01:00 AM
Does anyone want to jump in my training guild to donate orbs an help finish a few quests?? It would be much appreciated

SF training guild - 321513287

Ndrewtew
08-30-2013, 01:20 AM
Lol $200 and I will solo the event for your guild.......
You're most welcome to drop by my guild to help.
How do I pay you?:)

NinjaHonu
08-30-2013, 01:48 AM
More like it's called the gem bonus program+gem sales+itunes giftcard sales
Itune gift cards are on sale rght now. Load up on a bunch of gems, buy them now so you get extra gems for the same money spent to make your bonus minimum. Done

Where's the sales at in the US?

Spi
08-30-2013, 02:08 AM
I don't think it's a bad idea to make it tougher according to your guild ranking during last war, or even an average during last couple of wars.

So it will be harder to finish for a top 5 then a top 100 team...

Zepson
08-30-2013, 05:21 AM
Quote "Gems aren't really needed when you have 50+ members hitting in the millions and -70% hp regen"

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

and again : HA HA HA HA HA

Yeah right :confused:

E-I
08-30-2013, 07:01 AM
Very tough event to balance and make fair on low guilds without making it ridicoulsly easy for top guilds

One thing to keep in mind... while the top guilds blow through in hours (mine did it in 4-5 hours), a lot of members end up missing out on drops. Only a handful of our players were online for the entire quest. The mid-level guilds might benefit in a way because it requires more of their players to be online and active (thus receiving the drop loot). Just food for thought. :D


Low level guilds might be screwed. Get some friends in high places to stop by.

Kronous
08-30-2013, 07:20 AM
we could use a couple of those friends as a backup. if you know of any, send them my way :-)

JoeDaddy
08-30-2013, 08:20 AM
Spectral Agony finished a few hours ago, and sA2 and sA3 should be done later today! This was definitely a unique quest, and it took a little while to get everyone organized, but it's been fun! Thanks for throwing us another twist Gree!


Can we get just ONE bug free though? Mmmmmkay, thanks.

Sigfried
08-30-2013, 08:39 AM
It can't be done without gems. The level 100 raid boss will eat you up. Figure an average member will get 3 million points per force attack. 50 members would mean 150 million points on a force attack, if you can get 50 to participate at once. You can get off 2 force attacks in a 2 hour battle, so that's 300 million points per battle - free hits only. The boss is 741 million, more than double what free hits can do. You didn't think Gree was having a 40% off sale because they like you, did you?

Hersh
08-30-2013, 09:15 AM
It can't be done without gems. The level 100 raid boss will eat you up. Figure an average member will get 3 million points per force attack. 50 members would mean 150 million points on a force attack, if you can get 50 to participate at once. You can get off 2 force attacks in a 2 hour battle, so that's 300 million points per battle - free hits only. The boss is 741 million, more than double what free hits can do. You didn't think Gree was having a 40% off sale because they like you, did you?

Lol, what? The average player force attacks for 3mil? I almost do that, and I'm under level 80

Edit: but I do agree that 95% of guilds will need at least some
Gems to complete, most needing moderate usage. We aren't good enough to get health regen :(. 70% health regen is rediculous. Very jealous

VVolf
08-30-2013, 09:22 AM
It can't be done without gems. The level 100 raid boss will eat you up. Figure an average member will get 3 million points per force attack. 50 members would mean 150 million points on a force attack, if you can get 50 to participate at once. You can get off 2 force attacks in a 2 hour battle, so that's 300 million points per battle - free hits only. The boss is 741 million, more than double what free hits can do. You didn't think Gree was having a 40% off sale because they like you, did you?

Sorry, but I do about 8-9M with a force attack and I am only lvl 137. There are plenty of players stronger than me out there. So... if you redo all of your math and plug in 8-9M per force attack, it is definitely possible to do this without gems. You might not be in a guild strong enough to pull this off, but it is definitely possible with the right coordination and teamwork. Not saying its easy... and certainly harder for lower level players/guilds, but definitely not impossible.

Nudist
08-30-2013, 09:43 AM
What does the 30/30 quest look like? Lvl 100 3 times in 30 minutes or something?

It's all a dream
08-30-2013, 11:10 AM
nah just one time

Darth Randy
08-30-2013, 11:35 AM
Lol, we are an average guild, top 300, and nobody is power hitting for 8-9 million.

NinjaHonu
08-30-2013, 12:16 PM
Sorry, but I do about 8-9M with a force attack and I am only lvl 137. There are plenty of players stronger than me out there. So... if you redo all of your math and plug in 8-9M per force attack, it is definitely possible to do this without gems. You might not be in a guild strong enough to pull this off, but it is definitely possible with the right coordination and teamwork. Not saying its easy... and certainly harder for lower level players/guilds, but definitely not impossible.

Agree with you vvolf that it's not impossible... if you are a top 50.. maybe top 75 guild. You all are much stronger unboosted and have better health regen. I am in top 100 guild and I hit for about 6.5-7M which is really good for my level but many of us still had to spend a ton of gems to beat 1 level 100 boss. I scored 100+ mil and took about 400-500 gems. We had a pretty good turn out too of 35ish members. Not bad considering people are from different timezones. This raid boss is definitely very challenging for guilds outside the top 75. With the exception of guilds that have alliances with top guilds where they can send the top players down to help their feeder guilds.

Person
08-30-2013, 01:22 PM
We on the list yet? :)

Skyraiders
08-30-2013, 01:33 PM
We on the list yet? :)

Well are now....and if not...we should be!!!

Jerusalem
08-30-2013, 04:03 PM
I haven't seen a splash screen for a gem bonus this week. Is there one every week?

You have to sign up for the program. I can't remember the link; but if you send in a ticket to Gree asking to join, they will send you the details and the link to sign up.

JoeDaddy
08-30-2013, 05:18 PM
Well are now....and if not...we should be!!!

Congrats MoC! I knew we would see you at the finish line eventually, you guys finish everything... It was a helluva lot of work, but WELL worth the time, effort, coordination, and yes, gems.

sister morphine
08-30-2013, 09:25 PM
Squirrels just finished. Is there a list somewhere of who's done it

Billyfarmer
08-31-2013, 03:49 AM
Agree with you vvolf that it's not impossible... if you are a top 50.. maybe top 75 guild. You all are much stronger unboosted and have better health regen. I am in top 100 guild and I hit for about 6.5-7M which is really good for my level but many of us still had to spend a ton of gems to beat 1 level 100 boss. I scored 100+ mil and took about 400-500 gems. We had a pretty good turn out too of 35ish members. Not bad considering people are from different timezones. This raid boss is definitely very challenging for guilds outside the top 75. With the exception of guilds that have alliances with top guilds where they can send the top players down to help their feeder guilds.
Following on from this is a proposal. Our guild has roughly 16 willing to push for the finish with roughly 600-1200 gems each. We are camped at 27. Proposing a short term merge with those outside the power guilds to finish this. Your place or ours but we are keen to make it happen. I'm guessing a 3 way merge would be ideal with the 16 gemmers from three guilds merging to make it happen. I don't want to leave my mates so would head back to them when the unit is achieved, I just can't afford to drag them over the line this time and would guess there are lots of others in the same boat. Pm me or Ninja if your at all interested.

Suarez7
08-31-2013, 04:17 AM
Really envy u guys for finishing the guild quests. My guild is a top 300 with only 21 members and 2/3 gemmers. We're still at level 23 and running out of orbs. Our two strongest player can force attack 8 millions combined. So its been a struggle with lots of gems spent and we havent faced level 100 yet! But congratulations and hats off to those who finished it.

Shluggy
08-31-2013, 04:44 AM
Well the PFJ would be done if WE WEREN'T STUCK ON LEVEL 28!!!!! Damn glitched events, getting a bit tetchy now!! Woke up with a twitch this mo, morning!

King David
08-31-2013, 06:22 AM
Thin Red Line just finished the guild quest.

Cyanux
08-31-2013, 07:44 AM
Starks of Winterfell are done with quest. Grats to all who have finished.

Zepson
08-31-2013, 08:02 AM
The picture shows the player have 26k gems wtf Is he a biljonaire not knowing what to do with his money. And give it al to gree. Nice man maybe there is someting left on his bank account
Do you want my bank number I want 26k off gems also

If done with money at all :confused:

Alucard47
08-31-2013, 08:17 AM
They need to tier these raid boss events by finish in the previous war. The top 50-75 guilds should have stronger bosses than 200-400 and 200-400 guilds should be tougher than 500-1000, etc. this gives EVERYONE at least some shot to finish. Is a joke now as only the top 75-100 guilds have the ppl necessary to finish this one (ie all 50+ members having 1.5M+ attack)

fantomex
08-31-2013, 10:01 AM
Our guild is in DIRE need for a high stat player willing to help us out complete the raid boss guild quest. Since we're only on 24/30, any helper will get 110k raw stats after quest completion, PM if interested!

Jerusalem
08-31-2013, 11:00 AM
They need to tier these raid boss events by finish in the previous war. The top 50-75 guilds should have stronger bosses than 200-400 and 200-400 guilds should be tougher than 500-1000, etc. this gives EVERYONE at least some shot to finish. Is a joke now as only the top 75-100 guilds have the ppl necessary to finish this one (ie all 50+ members having 1.5M+ attack)

Would agree with you 100%, but the game's operating model doesn't center on fairness with respect to all players/guilds of the game. It gravitates toward profit, and therefore incentivizes and rewards those who help Gree's bottom line. There's no way to sugarcoat this hard, ugly truth.

Alucard47
08-31-2013, 12:15 PM
Would agree with you 100%, but the game's operating model doesn't center on fairness with respect to all players/guilds of the game. It gravitates toward profit, and therefore incentivizes and rewards those who help Gree's bottom line. There's no way to sugarcoat this hard, ugly truth.

The top teams are gonna spend them gems regardless, so that Profit for Gree is there regardless. If you make it tiered you give regular players a chance (albeit a lesser chance) to finish and Gree may just get these other players to spend cash. Profit would increase in my opinion with tiered approach. I know if my guild had a chance, we have 10-12 members who would put cash down to get finished. But as we don't have a chance without gems we aren't bothering... That's LOST PROFIT.... Not additional profit

Darth Randy
08-31-2013, 12:24 PM
This event wasn't designed to get he top guilds spending, they are so powerful that they need little in the way of gems. Tempting the #50-500 guilds to increase their spending has been GREE's goal with this event.

-OP-
08-31-2013, 01:39 PM
Knights of Light, top 150 is done. Took a few gems but nice bump to the stats.

E-I
08-31-2013, 02:15 PM
This event wasn't designed to get he top guilds spending, they are so powerful that they need little in the way of gems. Tempting the #50-500 guilds to increase their spending has been GREE's goal with this event.

Some people in my guild have spent gems on this. Most have not. When nearly all players are +3m stats, you need very few gems. We finished the quest in about 5 hours.

My guess is that this event was designed to grease the wheels a bit. Get mid/low stat players more used to spending gems.


They need to tier these raid boss events by finish in the previous war. The top 50-75 guilds should have stronger bosses than 200-400 and 200-400 guilds should be tougher than 500-1000, etc. this gives EVERYONE at least some shot to finish. Is a joke now as only the top 75-100 guilds have the ppl necessary to finish this one (ie all 50+ members having 1.5M+ attack)

I think this is much more fair. (The only exception may be some low stat people who just joined top guilds.) I don't know if Gree will ever do it, but it would add more challenge to higher stat players.

Jerusalem
08-31-2013, 02:15 PM
The top teams are gonna spend them gems regardless, so that Profit for Gree is there regardless. If you make it tiered you give regular players a chance (albeit a lesser chance) to finish and Gree may just get these other players to spend cash. Profit would increase in my opinion with tiered approach. I know if my guild had a chance, we have 10-12 members who would put cash down to get finished. But as we don't have a chance without gems we aren't bothering... That's LOST PROFIT.... Not additional profit

What you're saying certainly makes sense on the face of it.

But I don't know if the numbers back up that theory. There are plenty of opportunities in standard individual ltqs that afford free players to spend cash to achieve certain levels and obtain units within their financial reach, and Gree probably has and reviews that data. Gree likely concluded from its own research that most free players stop instead of paying to continue, ergo the catering to those proven to pay.

E-I
08-31-2013, 03:54 PM
What you're saying certainly makes sense on the face of it.

But I don't know if the numbers back up that theory. There are plenty of opportunities in standard individual ltqs that afford free players to spend cash to achieve certain levels and obtain units within their financial reach, and Gree probably has and reviews that data. Gree likely concluded from its own research that most free players stop instead of paying to continue, ergo the catering to those proven to pay.

The terms "Gree," "Data," and "Research" never belong in the same post. Same with "Customer Service" but that is a different matter. :p

Frothypython
08-31-2013, 04:54 PM
Our guild is small and we have a lot of fun playing this game together. There is no way we will finish this event.

procsyzarc
08-31-2013, 05:10 PM
Unless the they had tiered prizes as well tiers wouldn't work. With the addition of GLTQ to cok events it is already better for top players to join a low ranked guild than stay in their top 10 guilds since they can getting better prizes by spending a lot less, if players are punished anymore for being in strong guilds it will kill guilds all together as everyone will just end up creating small low ranked teams to finish LTQ's easier (I tested this in MW this weekend and got 15 straight wins in 15.5 hours in my own one man guild making the GLTQ's very easy, most battles I didn't even do anything and won just from failed attacks against me).

I am all for an event based on skill rather than gems that everyone can have a fair shot at but just simply making things easier for low ranked guilds is not the answer.

Gfours
08-31-2013, 05:14 PM
The Grand Knights finished it over 24 hours ago,

Just worked out what it took in orbs.

Here is the list of beasties killed for the event;

Lvl 100 boss 7 No killed @ 20 orbs per boss total 140 orbs used
Lvl 90 boss 6 No killed @ 18 orbs per boss total 108 orbs used
Lvl 80 boss 7 No killed @ 16 orbs per boss total 112 orbs used
Lvl 70 boss 7 No killed @ 14 orbs per boss total 98 orbs used
Lvl 60 boss 7 No killed @ 12 orbs per boss total 84 orbs used
Lvl 50 boss 6 No killed @ 10 orbs per boss total 60 orbs used
Lvl 40 boss 6 No killed @ 8 orbs per boss total 48 orbs used
Lvl 30 boss 6 No killed @ 6 orbs per boss total 36 orbs used
Lvl 20 boss 4 No killed @ 4 orbs per boss total 16 orbs used
Lvl 10 boss 4 No killed @ 2 orbs per boss total 8 orbs used

Total 710 orbs used to complete event

Hersh
08-31-2013, 05:37 PM
Thank you gfours!

s.m.p
08-31-2013, 06:17 PM
Please someone can tell me what guild has to do at level 30/30? Thank you

Hersh
08-31-2013, 06:22 PM
Please someone can tell me what guild has to do at level 30/30? Thank you



Besides read any of the 3-4 threads that have already said it??


Kill level 100 boss in under 30 minutes

s.m.p
08-31-2013, 06:50 PM
Besides read any of the 3-4 threads that have already said it??


Kill level 100 boss in under 30 minutes
Only 1 level 100 boss? In a thread someone hypothesized 3 bosses and each boss in 30 minutes. Who finished 30/30 can tell us exactly

Sparky14
08-31-2013, 06:56 PM
My guild is done...poster above is correct. Kill one level 100 boss in 30 minutes.

Hersh
08-31-2013, 07:06 PM
....yeah sorry, I just made it up....?

Jerusalem
08-31-2013, 07:30 PM
The terms "Gree," "Data," and "Research" never belong in the same post. Same with "Customer Service" but that is a different matter. :p

Lol. I can't provide a rebuttal to that. You win. ;)

Jerusalem
08-31-2013, 07:42 PM
Unless the they had tiered prizes as well tiers wouldn't work. With the addition of GLTQ to cok events it is already better for top players to join a low ranked guild than stay in their top 10 guilds since they can getting better prizes by spending a lot less, if players are punished anymore for being in strong guilds it will kill guilds all together as everyone will just end up creating small low ranked teams to finish LTQ's easier (I tested this in MW this weekend and got 15 straight wins in 15.5 hours in my own one man guild making the GLTQ's very easy, most battles I didn't even do anything and won just from failed attacks against me).

I am all for an event based on skill rather than gems that everyone can have a fair shot at but just simply making things easier for low ranked guilds is not the answer.

What you suggest is probably the best approach.

But I imagine there will be some low stat guilds who will complain that this puts a ceiling on how far they can go and how much they can win. What if, they may say, one of their members wins the lottery and is willing to finance the guilds ambition to complete a guild quest from start to finish? They would advocate that they should be able to play the same level of difficulty and win the same level of rewards as a higher tiered guild.

There will always be a reason to complain...

s.m.p
09-01-2013, 02:01 AM
My guild is done...poster above is correct. Kill one level 100 boss in 30 minutes.
Thank you very much

Iron Maiden
09-01-2013, 03:46 AM
Justice From Blood is done :)

larrydavid
09-01-2013, 07:21 AM
We The People (WTP) done around 2am EST last night.

E-I
09-01-2013, 08:46 AM
Any 60 player hacker guilds done yet? More people should be a huge advantage in this event.

Ragmondino
09-01-2013, 10:51 AM
Power fighters have finished :)
A lovely boost from that last level.

Finsfan
09-01-2013, 12:38 PM
Spectral Agony 1, 2, and 3 are done. Proud to be sA!

sister morphine
09-01-2013, 02:02 PM
SquirrelInvasion finished. I missed the final showdown (sad), but congrats to the team for a great effort

AndOne707
09-01-2013, 02:08 PM
Congrats to those that have accomplish this event. It really makes a difference to have a well organized group with a descent stat of a mill minimum.

Colony Colonel
09-01-2013, 02:25 PM
The Sailor Scouts finished! :)

Bluedood
09-01-2013, 02:49 PM
Breakfast for Dinner is complete if anyone is compiling a list ;)

Ragmondino
09-01-2013, 03:11 PM
SquirrelInvasion finished. I missed the final showdown (sad), but congrats to the team for a great effort

Congrats sis. Fancy coming and joining me in power fighters now?

Alucard47
09-01-2013, 05:05 PM
For all the guilds who finished, here is my question... How many of your members have over 1M attack???

larrydavid
09-01-2013, 05:08 PM
For all the guilds who finished, here is my question... How many of your members have over 1M attack???

probably 44 or so.

sister morphine
09-01-2013, 05:18 PM
Congrats sis. Fancy coming and joining me in power fighters now?
Hey Rag, for the event you mean?

Dark Angel KA
09-01-2013, 05:23 PM
My force attack is about 7 million. So that's 14 million per battle for me alone. If 50 members have the same force attack as me we would do 700 million damage. It could be done free if you have the strength and patience.

Ragmondino
09-01-2013, 05:39 PM
Hey Rag, for the event you mean?

Now for good I mean :) we have space for you and would love to have you aboard..
He nice to actually fight alongside you rather than recruit you for someone else..

Shluggy
09-01-2013, 05:47 PM
Finished it!!

E-I
09-01-2013, 06:59 PM
Finished it!!

Congrats dude.

StrictNine
09-01-2013, 07:59 PM
Battalion 1 finished.

horse
09-01-2013, 09:55 PM
force hit, force hit, if you have health regen decrease, regular hit, use cure potions(1 force hit per potion because 1 force hit=5x and 4 regular hits=4x)

procsyzarc
09-01-2013, 10:02 PM
For all the guilds who finished, here is my question... How many of your members have over 1M attack???

56. Haven't checked but I doubt anyone is below 3m and average is about 4.5m

Ndrewtew
09-01-2013, 10:31 PM
If I put myself through another 30/30, will I get another gatekeeper?
Ive got the gatekeeper, my guild finished the quest.

leek
09-01-2013, 10:42 PM
If I put myself through another 30/30, will I get another gatekeeper?
Ive got the gatekeeper, my guild finished the quest.

I wish it was true. The short answer to your question is NO

Johan -
09-01-2013, 11:59 PM
GREE,

How do you think about this?

"I think for the TOP75 and lower guilds, without some tricks/ alliances and a lot of gems finishing ( 29/29) 30/30 is impossible to complete.
Many players have stats below 1 mill., so their force attack is 4.mill or (much) lower.
I cannot even think about the players with stats of 500K or lower, for them it is like trowing some sand to a brick wall!

As this are guild quests, there should be a difference in difficulty depending on the ranking that guilds are in the overal guild war lists. Obvious, players with stats of 4 mill. and higher can easily kill these bosses, while the majority of KA players never can do this.
I think therefore that this is a wrong set-up of this guild boss event.

Designing these boss events difficulty grade according to the war rankings is the only fair solution IMHO."

Spending (some) gems to complete a quest is ok, but it should be in the same level for all the guilds...
( and yes, I have the gatekeeper already)

Just my two cents

Hersh
09-02-2013, 12:09 AM
GREE,

How do you think about this?

"I think for the TOP75 and lower guilds, without some tricks/ alliances and a lot of gems finishing ( 29/29) 30/30 is impossible to complete.
Many players have stats below 1 mill., so their force attack is 4.mill or (much) lower.
I cannot even think about the players with stats of 500K or lower, for them it is like trowing some sand to a brick wall!

As this are guild quests, there should be a difference in difficulty depending on the ranking that guilds are in the overal guild war lists. Obvious, players with stats of 4 mill. and higher can easily kill these bosses, while the majority of KA players never can do this.
I think therefore that this is a wrong set-up of this guild boss event.

Designing these boss events difficulty grade according to the war rankings is the only fair solution IMHO."

Spending (some) gems to complete a quest is ok, but it should be in the same level for all the guilds...
( and yes, I have the gatekeeper already)

Just my two cents



Unless they made separate GLTQs, and the ones for the weaker guilds had prizes tat weren't as good, then this never will or should happen, IMO.
Otherwise, all you would e doing would be punishing people for doing well in the war, and ultimately, punishing theme spending gems on war, which Gree will NEVER do :P

Johan -
09-02-2013, 12:35 AM
Unless they made separate GLTQs, and the ones for the weaker guilds had prizes tat weren't as good, then this never will or should happen, IMO.
Otherwise, all you would e doing would be punishing people for doing well in the war, and ultimately, punishing theme spending gems on war, which Gree will NEVER do :P

I agree it's a difficult subject, maybe you're right and it's not completely fair that the higher rank guilds find a more difficult quest than the lower guilds, but by making the guild boss quest again more difficult because the top10 guilds finished this (for example) in 10 hours time is also not the solution.

From the worse options, one is always better. I think the guild quests must stay fun for everyone, when TOP75 and lower guilds by starting the guild boss quests already know it's impossible for them to reach half of the quest, what then?

I think GREE agrees that they better can have all guilds participating in the boss quests than the TOP50 guilds only, it's in their benefit to have also the lower ranked guilds spending some gems.

Stixupkid
09-02-2013, 12:42 AM
Lady China guild (RED) finished about 9-10 hours ago
Check my inventory. 551-807-275

Person
09-02-2013, 12:43 AM
about 70% of my battlepool has the prize already, way more than the people who have Dauthus or Daleth.

procsyzarc
09-02-2013, 01:39 AM
If it is to be easier then it needs to be with reduced prizes and should not go by ranking but rather be a choice.

Ie

At the start the guild chooses which LTQ they want to do and once selected that is the only one they can do.

1/ 50% more hp prize is a 80k unit with 40%
2/ Normal hp prize is a 60k unit with 30%
3/ 75% hp prize is a 40k unit with 20%
4/ 50% hp prize is a 25k unit with 10%
5/ 25% hp prize is a 10k unit with 5%

Johan -
09-02-2013, 02:13 AM
If it is to be easier then it needs to be with reduced prizes and should not go by ranking but rather be a choice.

Ie

At the start the guild chooses which LTQ they want to do and once selected that is the only one they can do.

1/ 50% more hp prize is a 80k unit with 40%
2/ Normal hp prize is a 60k unit with 30%
3/ 75% hp prize is a 40k unit with 20%
4/ 50% hp prize is a 25k unit with 10%
5/ 25% hp prize is a 10k unit with 5%

I think this could be a good option.

sister morphine
09-02-2013, 05:26 AM
GREE,

How do you think about this?

"I think for the TOP75 and lower guilds, without some tricks/ alliances and a lot of gems finishing ( 29/29) 30/30 is impossible to complete.
Many players have stats below 1 mill., so their force attack is 4.mill or (much) lower.
I cannot even think about the players with stats of 500K or lower, for them it is like trowing some sand to a brick wall!

As this are guild quests, there should be a difference in difficulty depending on the ranking that guilds are in the overal guild war lists. Obvious, players with stats of 4 mill. and higher can easily kill these bosses, while the majority of KA players never can do this.
I think therefore that this is a wrong set-up of this guild boss event.

Designing these boss events difficulty grade according to the war rankings is the only fair solution IMHO."

Spending (some) gems to complete a quest is ok, but it should be in the same level for all the guilds...
( and yes, I have the gatekeeper already)

Just my two cents
I get what you're saying, but in truth you gotta be prepared to pay the price somewhere down the line if you want the goodies. The first LTQ I completed cost something like four mountains of gems to do, but I've never looked back since. Subsequent quests have been far less costly.

Bite that bullet!

Cxxxmm
09-02-2013, 05:42 AM
I think it is fair. All the higher ranked guilds have completed the quest ( assumption of course ) thus the impact in terms of being stronger is moot. However, if a lower ranked guild completes, the can mop up their rivals. At some point you have to gem if you want to get ahead

Sydonia
09-02-2013, 05:52 AM
As I see it the current format is about 90% past history and 10% current effort where as wars, all individual LTQs and linked guild quests is 90% current effort and 10% past history. Even the normal boss events tries balance this a bit by dividing players into brackets.
The proposal doesn't change that fundamental difference - its basically the same as stopping on 10/30, 15/30, 20/30, 25/30, 30/30 (just redistribute prizes on each lvl to get the proposed effect). The proposal also disregard that apart from top guilds every other guild would have to make such choice before knowing the requirement for the completing the quest.

If you want to seek some sort of balance in this and future events, there should be a balance between gem-spending and the award you get. I see no justification for guild A to spend twice the gems for half the reward compared to guild B if participation is the same (disregarding modifiers that of course allready favours high stats). Guilds can and should work on unlocking bonuses,filling the ranks and coordinating efforts. Each member has the option to advance in levels gaining strength etc., completing LTQs for better weapons and armor but noone can make up for years not winning top prizes.

my five cents

Bohemian
09-02-2013, 07:47 AM
Current raid boss is okay no need for change. If top guilds finish quick is fair after so much investment they put into it.
My 50 cents.

s.m.p
09-02-2013, 09:21 AM
Guild sir SMP just done

P4TR1C14N
09-02-2013, 09:23 AM
It might be quite feasible for top guilds, but people do forget that the top guilds that finish the even in some hours probably did throw once more some blinking gems in the event :).

With good organization Top100 guilds should be able to finish imho.

Sigfried
09-02-2013, 09:24 AM
Finished this morning, took about 5 minutes to take down the big boss with a great group of dedicated people. Thanks to a couple of mercs who joined also, gave us that extra insurance we needed.

Swede
09-02-2013, 09:28 AM
Strength & Honor just finnished

aaronk
09-02-2013, 11:24 AM
Dragon Raiders of Pern are just about to finish off level 30.