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Gambit12
10-14-2013, 12:08 PM
Earn 25 Arcane Filiments & win Arcanum Weaver - 5548/6780 - 30% More Attack from Magic.

Good Luck everyone..!:cool:

Joshua -kol-
10-14-2013, 12:28 PM
4 days till war and 5 days till box event is over. Either Gree will cut box event short unexpectedly or war and boss vent will occur at same time?

Alleran
10-14-2013, 12:35 PM
Anybody else not getting the box event to load? I have a raid boss icon where the box event should be... Sirius? CJ?

Valsuvious
10-14-2013, 12:38 PM
Mine is actually doing the same thing Alleran

JayW
10-14-2013, 12:43 PM
It seems set to last event algorithm, fast to 8. Very dry after. All gold and honor. Good luck for 25.

Dexter Morgan
10-14-2013, 12:52 PM
I'll pass!!!

Dogs Pizza
10-14-2013, 12:56 PM
its a collect ten where you need to collect 25...no thanks.

Ndrewtew
10-14-2013, 01:01 PM
Got my 11/25 fast, then comes the dry spell.

[JAG] Ryan
10-14-2013, 01:04 PM
agreed, also on 8 and a lot of honor and gold rewards in between

KM KAge
10-14-2013, 01:05 PM
Sorry. Going to spend the next few days with my family. Today alone:
GREE may have ended a quest a day early. I am not going to risk any real money to find out.
Buildings not being collected properly. Coin has gone missing.
Money unable to be saved into the vault. Not all, just some. Had 50,000 to be saved, it saved most but refused to save the rest. And no the vault was not even close to being full.
Oh yeah, and everyone's favourite, the box event started. This time with 25 boxes needed.

StrictNine
10-14-2013, 01:10 PM
Yep got to 8 on 600 gems then dry for another 400, think I'll wait and see where this goes.

E-I
10-14-2013, 01:31 PM
No gems from me on this one. I am still bitter about the last box event.

Nudist
10-14-2013, 01:34 PM
I am having trouble getting the satchels to drop to even try. Pass.

Joie
10-14-2013, 01:43 PM
I get satchels but they don't show up, damn raid boss icon is in the way

kruppe
10-14-2013, 02:20 PM
It would appear the algorithm is still set for the collect 10 event. Get to 9 and the odds drop dramatically. Which will make every step to 25 mightily expensive.

Not sure what is going through the designers' head(s?)

There are still people who would like to spend gems who would hold an expectation that there is a "reasonable" chance of getting the final prize.

As the odds disappear down the gurgler, those inclined previously to spend gems are withholding them for a better return in other events.

[JAG] Ryan
10-14-2013, 02:24 PM
they are answering tickets :cool:

Ratma2001
10-14-2013, 02:31 PM
got to 6 then gold,gold,gold !, why use gems for a pittence of gold, could make it min of 20,000 gold not 4,000 its crap for my gems spent !If most Big stat players are passing why wouldnt Gree make the final unit better stats! like 1 MILLION ?? it would give me a chance to at least be half their stats ?

Zenobia
10-14-2013, 02:43 PM
Wow - 25 to get the grand prize? If it were 10, I might be enticed to spend some gems on it. But 25 is impossible so I will not spend a dime.

CJ54
10-14-2013, 02:58 PM
It would appear the algorithm is still set for the collect 10 event. Get to 9 and the odds drop dramatically. Which will make every step to 25 mightily expensive.

Not sure what is going through the designers' head(s?)

There are still people who would like to spend gems who would hold an expectation that there is a "reasonable" chance of getting the final prize.

As the odds disappear down the gurgler, those inclined previously to spend gems are withholding them for a better return in other events.

That's an ugly bug in the data. We're pushing a fix for that now.

E-I
10-14-2013, 03:05 PM
Probably an intentional bug.

Gree should refund gems for everybody who started using. They won't of course, but they should.

CJ54
10-14-2013, 03:29 PM
Probably an intentional bug.

Gree should refund gems for everybody who started using. They won't of course, but they should.

An intentional bug that we're now fixing? I don't follow your non-logic.

People who already spent gems post-9 can send a ticket to support and we will see what we can do.

Gambit12
10-14-2013, 03:35 PM
Wow - 25 to get the grand prize? If it were 10, I might be enticed to spend some gems on it. But 25 is impossible so I will not spend a dime.


Same here Zenobia, gold opens only - let see how far i can go with this expensive collect 25...:rolleyes:


3 sorries so far & still empty...

larrydavid
10-14-2013, 03:42 PM
An intentional bug that we're now fixing? I don't follow your non-logic.

People who already spent gems post-9 can send a ticket to support and we will see what we can do.

simple logic, an intentional bug is a reference to cheating the players.

CJ54
10-14-2013, 03:43 PM
simple logic, an intentional bug is a reference to cheating the players.

Right, and my answer to that was "no".

larrydavid
10-14-2013, 03:46 PM
Right, and my answer to that was "no".

Honest question, is this Gree's last ditch effort to make money before they shut this game down?

CJ54
10-14-2013, 03:48 PM
Honest question, is this Gree's last ditch effort to make money before they shut this game down?

No, and the conspiracy theories are becoming tiresome. Again, this was a bug in the data and people who were affected negatively by it in regards to gems spent need to send a ticket to Support. We don't have any plans to shut down KA.

larrydavid
10-14-2013, 03:49 PM
No, and the conspiracy theories are becoming tiresome. Again, this was a bug in the data and people who were affected negatively by it in regards to gems spent need to send a ticket to Support. We don't have any plans to shut down KA.

thanks man! what times are you usually online? and why aren't there more like you? :)

kruppe
10-14-2013, 03:56 PM
That's an ugly bug in the data. We're pushing a fix for that now.

Thanks CJ...

NinjaHonu
10-14-2013, 03:58 PM
Honest question, is this Gree's last ditch effort to make money before they shut this game down?

If they are planning on shutting it down... why would they ever tell the customer yes we are planning on shutting down soon. If they said that everyone wouldn't spend a penny more. LOL. But i hope CJ54 is telling the truth. I really enjoy this game and appreciate CJ and Sirius answering concerns once in a while. BTW WHERE ARE THE RANKINGS! Thanks CJ!

StrictNine
10-14-2013, 03:58 PM
No, and the conspiracy theories are becoming tiresome. Again, this was a bug in the data and people who were affected negatively by it in regards to gems spent need to send a ticket to Support. We don't have any plans to shut down KA.

Thanks. Ticket submitted.

Cxxxmm
10-14-2013, 04:02 PM
Still can't get satchel to work. Get booted each time I hit gold and lose everything. Ticket sent. Sigh

AppleMacGuy
10-14-2013, 04:14 PM
CJ - can you confirm if this is fixed yet and what data version we should have wih the fix? Thanks.

larrydavid
10-14-2013, 04:16 PM
If they are planning on shutting it down... why would they ever tell the customer yes we are planning on shutting down soon. If they said that everyone wouldn't spend a penny more. LOL. But i hope CJ54 is telling the truth. I really enjoy this game and appreciate CJ and Sirius answering concerns once in a while. BTW WHERE ARE THE RANKINGS! Thanks CJ!

cough*obscenity*cough

Master Stormzs
10-14-2013, 04:27 PM
Dear, CJ first thanks for getting on this ASAP, a few of my guildmates we're on the verge if just quitting...do appreciate the quick updates

But, why am I not surprised...better yet why is everyone else surprised (look at the track record of late). I do hope they can get it together for this weekends war...hope we don't see negative CP ;)

CJ54
10-14-2013, 04:32 PM
CJ - can you confirm if this is fixed yet and what data version we should have wih the fix? Thanks.

Not yet. I just checked in, and they are fighting a snag in the data deploy. We will have that out asap.

Perfuzzie
10-14-2013, 04:44 PM
good luck everyone .. i'll pass

Euchred
10-14-2013, 05:05 PM
It's a lovely bonus but I'll be passing as well if the odds of opening the final box are small. At least in collect 10s a few lucky souls could finish free, I don't see it happening here unless it's the same odds as auctions.

Gambit12
10-14-2013, 05:34 PM
It's a lovely bonus but I'll be passing as well if the odds of opening the final box are small. At least in collect 10s a few lucky souls could finish free, I don't see it happening here unless it's the same odds as auctions.

Well said Euchred, +1 here...:cool:

mighty mackenzie
10-14-2013, 05:49 PM
So you know it's messed up and you leave it running and steal people gems! This is bad business!

Master Stormzs
10-14-2013, 06:36 PM
So you know it's messed up and you leave it running and steal people gems! This is bad business!

Gree el at.... Please see quote above...some logical hidden advice there.. Just saying

Voxker
10-14-2013, 06:41 PM
only have 2 of those items... after that i failed 4 times in a row with gold

Rastlin
10-14-2013, 07:03 PM
only have 2 of those items... after that i failed 4 times in a row with gold
Stop complaining Voxker...

kruppe
10-14-2013, 08:05 PM
Not yet. I just checked in, and they are fighting a snag in the data deploy. We will have that out asap.

Any update on the fix?

Namine33
10-14-2013, 09:02 PM
I havent used gems yet, but I am only at 2/25, and so far, the last 6 gold option chances have failed...

CJ54
10-14-2013, 10:45 PM
Any update on the fix?

The data deploy failed due to some background issues. So instead, we deployed a live hotfix that should address the problem. If anyone is still encountering the super low drop rate, please let us know here or via ticket. We are monitoring from here.

Also, we did not get to all tickets sent in about this today, but that will be the main focus in the queues tomorrow. Sorry for the delay on this one, all.

-OP-
10-14-2013, 11:24 PM
Hopefully the response is better on the tickets. Last time we had a box event I went 0:47 in a 52 hour period using gems and gold. By zero I mean no event items just gold and honor. My ticket was responded to weeks after the event closed with a thank you we will pass it on to the developers...

I'm passing on this one after going 2:15. Good luck to you who started strong.

Master Stormzs
10-14-2013, 11:29 PM
Yes, if anyone else still encounters this low drop problem PLEASE let US know...here we'll be monitoring as well

l3lade2
10-15-2013, 01:10 AM
I still don't even have the quest, just got the raid boss icon instead.

Can't say I overly bothered, box events are bad news.

ELVIS2K13
10-15-2013, 01:13 AM
I still don't even have the quest, just got the raid boss icon instead.

Can't say I overly bothered, box events are bad news.

Gotta upgrade my du

Joshua -kol-
10-15-2013, 06:48 AM
I'm on 7 satchels and now have a really low rate using gems. 15 boxes with nothing. It's seeming like the old system still. I have also heard that people have used gems to open and it has come up with box hasn't opened

AllFather Odin
10-15-2013, 07:27 AM
Lucky for you guys. I got 4 in a row relics and thought it's my lucky moment. Now I got 6 sorries in a row! The last one, I got 4000 gold. At least better than sorries...

We appreciate your constant returning of questions, CJ. I wished there were more people like you in KA......

Gambit12
10-15-2013, 08:20 AM
i got stuck at 2 Arcane Filiments since yesterday. This event is a total waste for free or light gem spender...:(

Person
10-15-2013, 08:37 AM
yeah, another event made worthless for the non gemmer.

P4TR1C14N
10-15-2013, 10:03 AM
So you know it's messed up and you leave it running and steal people gems! This is bad business!

Ouch... Very valid... Hope no one gets the idea to go to itunes and quote this thread...

I don't play the box events anymore. I don't like to play in a casino style event where the casino decides when i am allowed to win and where i don't know the odds.

CJ54
10-15-2013, 11:52 AM
So you know it's messed up and you leave it running and steal people gems! This is bad business!

To turn it off, we would have had to do a data deploy, which broke (that was what caused the delay on the fix). It isn't a light-switch.

EDIT: I understand the frustration for sure, but to switch events on and off, or alter something, is not actually a quick process. We can't make it a quick process. People need to understand that when unexpected things happen.

Samskill
10-15-2013, 12:23 PM
CJ do you play cards with your friends and you lost a couple of hundreds dollars. at the end of the night, your friends tell you calmly that the deck of cards is actually not complete. How do you feel?

Vendetta V
10-15-2013, 12:43 PM
To turn it off, we would have had to do a data deploy, which broke (that was what caused the delay on the fix). It isn't a light-switch.

EDIT: I understand the frustration for sure, but to switch events on and off, or alter something, is not actually a quick process. We can't make it a quick process. People need to understand that when unexpected things happen.

Thanks, but unfortunately... Your unexpected things, are by now to expect for us.
Almost every event has bugs and meanwhile it cost us every time RL money.
I also question if it's so difficult to turn this event off. You even could load a simple pop-up window in the game ( can be programmed in ten minutes), to inform the players that there is a small issue with this event. Many players don't visit the forum, so they will spend their gems on this. In a certain approach, it's stealing money from your customers...

Gyglis77
10-15-2013, 01:04 PM
Sorry guys...gree cant stop this Event now or i will have back my 2000 gems im use for this Box Quest Event. With 2000 gems im open only 10 boxes and soooo many Honor and Gold.....Thats the Problem....

Vendetta V
10-15-2013, 01:10 PM
Sorry guys...gree cant stop this Event now or i will have back my 2000 gems im use for this Box Quest Event. With 2000 gems im open only 10 boxes and soooo many Honor and Gold.....Thats the Problem....

I agree stop the event is not possible, but a pop-up window is the least GREE could do.
When the players know that their chances increase again the might use their gems again to complete the event...

Gyglis77
10-15-2013, 01:41 PM
Pls gree change nothing....its the Same Thing about the last Time on raid Boss Event ....no change in the middle of the Event. For this raid boss im Used 10000 gems and you have not added a Bonus.....and tis is ok...dont change in the middle of a Event.....with 4000 gems you can get this Unit.

Gyglis77
10-15-2013, 01:57 PM
Yes i got the Unit....use 4500 gems
Thats ok for this Unit....im think also the Rate for Open boxes is much higher now....

Euchred
10-15-2013, 01:59 PM
Yes i got the Unit....use 4500 gems
Thats ok for this Unit....im think also the Rate for Open boxes is much higher now....

Congrats
How many opens from #24 to #25?

Gyglis77
10-15-2013, 02:01 PM
Not so many i think 4 or 5 all with gems....

Euchred
10-15-2013, 02:05 PM
Not so many i think 4 or 5 all with gems....

Many thanks.

ShagRanger
10-15-2013, 02:35 PM
To turn it off, we would have had to do a data deploy, which broke (that was what caused the delay on the fix). It isn't a light-switch.

EDIT: I understand the frustration for sure, but to switch events on and off, or alter something, is not actually a quick process. We can't make it a quick process. People need to understand that when unexpected things happen.


This is simply not true! The FUN boss event was stopped within minutes, once everyone started on their prior boss LTQ level. Only difference is you stopped that event because it was costing GREE money......unlike this one!

Vendetta V
10-15-2013, 03:25 PM
Yes i got the Unit....use 4500 gems
Thats ok for this Unit....im think also the Rate for Open boxes is much higher now....

Now USD250,-, + min. USD250,- for the war + USD180.- for the ILTQ + USD90,- for the GLTQ, + USD180,- for the first ILTQ+GLTQ = min. USD950,- this month.. , well up to next month!!

CJ54
10-15-2013, 04:16 PM
This is simply not true! The FUN boss event was stopped within minutes, once everyone started on their prior boss LTQ level. Only difference is you stopped that event because it was costing GREE money......unlike this one!

Current boss level is stored server-side, not client-side. We didn't have to do a data push for that, we just had to wipe the table server-side (as should have happened before the event). Not the same thing.

EDIT: The fastest we've ever been able to do an emergency data push was about half an hour, I think.

KM KAge
10-15-2013, 04:37 PM
Current boss level is stored server-side, not client-side. We didn't have to do a data push for that, we just had to wipe the table server-side (as should have happened before the event). Not the same thing.

EDIT: The fastest we've ever been able to do an emergency data push was about half an hour, I think.
Pushing client side is not enjoyable, and would cause many more tickets and forum comments.

One of the suggestions from quite a while ago was to have GREE post messages on all walls. While this would likely grind the servers to a halt, please consider posting on Guild walls. This would get the message out to most people quickly. This would hopefully reduce the number of redundant tickets and the accompanying frustration with the ticket process and the problem itself.

aphroKEN
10-15-2013, 05:44 PM
Or the game could be put on maintenance for the duration it takes to fix the problem.

Ratma2001
10-15-2013, 05:59 PM
And after 600 gems still only got 8 satchels !, like gems is growing on trees somewhere i done know about !?
and whats with the pissy 150 Honor !
Gree seriously need to Re- Evaluate these drops....honestly 150 honor....you know where to put that

KM KAge
10-15-2013, 06:03 PM
Or the game could be put on maintenance for the duration it takes to fix the problem.
As strange as this may sound, having a glitch with a quest does not mean that the entire game should be shut down. Other quests are/were active and people are stil collecting and raiding.

aphroKEN
10-15-2013, 06:15 PM
What if it is a serious glitch that causes people to spend money in return for nothing?

KM KAge
10-15-2013, 06:24 PM
Not sure what the odds are supposed to be, but so far I only have 1 successful open out of 20 attempts. 1 filament, no gold, no honour. Going to use free opens only.

JayW
10-15-2013, 07:41 PM
I opened and had 8 filaments before they fixed it. After, I averaged a filament every 3.5 opens with gems. The bonus at 25 was worth 530k attack. If there's been an event lately where the cost is worth the bonus, this was it. Relatively low cost, huge stat improvement.

The Epic Boss event, costing 20-25k gems for high level, high stat friends, not worth a paltry 5% box reset bonus! Nor +10% to Epic Bosses. Ridiculous. Poorly thought out.

Shabou
10-15-2013, 10:17 PM
Got mine.... 1400 gems later... Arggg

P4TR1C14N
10-15-2013, 10:46 PM
Current boss level is stored server-side, not client-side. We didn't have to do a data push for that, we just had to wipe the table server-side (as should have happened before the event). Not the same thing.

EDIT: The fastest we've ever been able to do an emergency data push was about half an hour, I think.

Very valid argument. But there is something called 'call back your product' or 'freeze the event' or cancel the event'.

It's a gree problem and you shift the problem to your customer and you expect the customer to keep paying for the event while you know it is broken?

Ever heard off sending out a message ingame that here is an issue with the event? You only communicate here and 90% off your customers don't read a forum thread.

I appreciate your updates, but damn... I am not impressed with the gree organization.

aphroKEN
10-15-2013, 10:59 PM
I think the current chest event offers a wonderful reward. Good to see people are still enthusiastic about this game.

Bohemian
10-16-2013, 07:06 AM
Bonus is ok.
Its horrible % of succesfull with gold, last event i gems after open 9/10 with gold. Now only got 2/loss count.
I pass 😄

┴ed
10-16-2013, 07:13 AM
Already sent my ticket into Gree and referenced this post from CJ, given the "glitch" I went two separate stretches of opening 10+ cases with gems to not get a single filament spool....like I need 150 honor points or 4k gold.....in the end I got 25, but was kinda ridiculous to have to go through that effort...

Weepit
10-16-2013, 08:07 AM
Bonus is ok.
Its horrible % of succesfull with gold, last event i gems after open 9/10 with gold. Now only got 2/loss count.
I pass 

I'm passing on most every quest lately, there is no strategy, just pay tons of $$$ in order to win. Beyond boring.

I suppose as long as "players" continue to spend loads of real money to dominate this fake world it will continue. The game really sucks at this point. There must be better games out there, I need to be less lazy.

Congrats to all that win, you've put your money to good use. Or not

StrictNine
10-16-2013, 08:12 AM
Drop is still horrible for me, think I'll pass too.

Ndrewtew
10-16-2013, 09:32 AM
I've stopped using gems to open the box. Stuck on 14/25. Going through a long dry spell.

Zenobia
10-16-2013, 10:18 AM
Decided to only use gold opens this one since 25 is absurd and why spend gems if no big prize? Also in the last one I had 9 of the suckers of the the 10 open and for 3 whole days never got that last one. These event s are not worth real money IMO. So I only have 7 filaments so far.

Guido69
10-16-2013, 11:34 AM
I got 25 from about 75 openings

Gyglis77
10-16-2013, 02:10 PM
Nice Guido....i think 30% Beast attack Bonus is a realy Great Price

Guido69
10-16-2013, 03:13 PM
Nice Guido....i think 30% Beast attack Bonus is a realy Great Price

its 30% magic attack but nonetheless it increased my attack by 750k

Tojo
10-16-2013, 04:30 PM
I got 25 from about 75 openings

New record for me. 17 without a win. Did get 1 150h
And 4000 gold. Man would I like 1/3

Bohemian
10-16-2013, 06:03 PM
75 open x 20 (reset time) x 20 (gems open) is 30.000 gems. OMG. Am i correct ?

Euchred
10-16-2013, 06:08 PM
75 open x 20 (reset time) x 20 (gems open) is 30.000 gems. OMG. Am i correct ?

You're a little off there bud, the calculations have to be done separately. 75x20 for opens and 75x20 for resets equals 3,000

Shocking that 30k is even thinkable but with the last boss event...

Bohemian
10-16-2013, 06:24 PM
Yes, my mistake. Haha... Im shock myself. 😄😄😃

Guido69
10-16-2013, 07:39 PM
Yep, around 3,000 gems sounds right

Ndrewtew
10-17-2013, 06:22 AM
What's wrong with the drop rate! Not a single arcane filiment drop for past 2 days already.

Guido69
10-17-2013, 01:34 PM
What's wrong with the drop rate! Not a single arcane filiment drop for past 2 days already.

Unfortunately, that is not unusual. You seem to have much better chances at day 1 and the last day of the event. In the middle, good luck...

Skyraiders
10-17-2013, 07:40 PM
Unfortunately, that is not unusual. You seem to have much better chances at day 1 and the last day of the event. In the middle, good luck...

Yep...this is spot on.....I have done much research on box events......and Guido summed it up nicely

Rocco69
10-17-2013, 09:22 PM
im convinced if u want it do it day 1 or else pay dearly

[JAG] Ryan
10-18-2013, 02:31 AM
Guido is right, but it worked for me for which reason ever yesterday :cool: Still had a bad drop rate but at least got all i needed.

Mr. Sirmanchoo
10-18-2013, 06:22 AM
Got the 25! All gold opens except last 10 opens, 8 of which were gold....

KingKeith
10-18-2013, 07:19 AM
Got the 25! All gold opens except last 10 opens, 8 of which were gold....

Correct me if I'm wrong. The box opening event will overlap with the war for 1 day????? It's not a Gree mistake, right????