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Tojo
10-23-2013, 04:15 PM
Anyone able to buy the Witch's Lair yet?
Sounds very cool.

Lys
10-23-2013, 04:23 PM
24 hour build time, with an initial cost of 450,000 gold.

WebOrdy
10-23-2013, 04:38 PM
Ne1 have the upgrades prices?

Euchred
10-23-2013, 04:39 PM
Well it's cool but they did it wrong, too expensive, dumb payout cycle and only 11 days to complete it. Le sigh

Master Stormzs
10-23-2013, 04:39 PM
Bravo Gree! You did something good, now keep this positive trend going!
Cheers!
11 days to get it fully upgraded, that's going to be ALOT of raiding / gemming as well, but at long last a LTB for KA!!!

Ratma2001
10-23-2013, 04:40 PM
FIRST UPGRADE COST $550K start raiding

Euchred
10-23-2013, 04:42 PM
Ne1 have the upgrades prices?

Approx. unmodded

1. 500,000
2. 835,000
3. 1,394,000
4. 2,328,000
5. 3,888,000
6. 6,494,000
7. 10,845,000
8. 18,112,000
9. 30,248,000
10. 50,514,000

Atlanta
10-23-2013, 04:44 PM
Lol it's like having another manor to upgrade....

But twice as expensive...

NinjaHonu
10-23-2013, 04:54 PM
Approx. unmodded

1. 500,000
2. 835,000
3. 1,394,000
4. 2,328,000
5. 3,888,000
6. 6,494,000
7. 10,845,000
8. 18,112,000
9. 30,248,000
10. 50,514,000

Umm $50m? Are you F'ing kidding me?

Voxker
10-23-2013, 04:58 PM
with discounts i bought it at like 469k... pretty damn expensive, i hope its worth it at the end, with 11days to upgrade it too

MWWM J
10-23-2013, 05:00 PM
First LTB they have and it's chit and expensive. Not expensive for me but expensive to be a 4 hour building. Saving up gold for the next one. Hope they dish out a 24 hour next time.

Euchred
10-23-2013, 05:02 PM
with discounts i bought it at like 469k... pretty damn expensive, i hope its worth it at the end, with 11days to upgrade it too

Here's the splash, not bad. I'm sure 11 days is enough to upgrade but certainly not enough to save the funds.

http://i.imgur.com/s9sjv9Zl.jpg

Voxker
10-23-2013, 05:05 PM
Here's the splash, not bad.

http://i.imgur.com/s9sjv9Zl.jpg

time to get everyone's raid on! lol

StrictNine
10-23-2013, 05:07 PM
Approx. unmodded

1. 500,000
2. 835,000
3. 1,394,000
4. 2,328,000
5. 3,888,000
6. 6,494,000
7. 10,845,000
8. 18,112,000
9. 30,248,000
10. 50,514,000

I hope you're wrong.

Euchred
10-23-2013, 05:10 PM
I hope you're wrong.

It's more than likely a little off but that's what you get when you multiply each upgrade by 1.67, so it's ballpark. The L10 lumber mill is an automatic 10% and I have 34 more % off upgrades on top of that, which helps.

Big-R
10-23-2013, 05:11 PM
I don't think he is.

Big-R
10-23-2013, 05:14 PM
Any idea on a payout per level yet please?

Mr. Sirmanchoo
10-23-2013, 05:14 PM
So is this a Limited time building or is it just a limited time to upgrade it, like the quest for mastering the Barrens was? If so I will purchase 2 of them, if not, I will just take my time(use all gold to upgrade one completely). If anyone knows if these will remain purchasable after the allotted time please let me know.

Fazz
10-23-2013, 05:16 PM
So is this a Limited time building or is it just a limited time to upgrade it, like the quest for mastering the Barrens was? If so I will purchase 2 of them, if not, I will just take my time(use all gold to upgrade one completely). If anyone knows if these will remain purchasable after the allotted time please let me know.

G'day Mr Sirmanchoo, you can only buy them during the limited time, they will disappear after that.

Big-R
10-23-2013, 05:16 PM
In the other games they are only available to purchase until the event is over then they disapear for good.

Euchred
10-23-2013, 05:20 PM
Any idea on a payout per level yet please?

Approx payout every 4 hours
1. 1,225
2. 2,450
3. 4,288
4. 6,738
5. 9,800
6. 13,475
7. 17,763
8. 22,663
9. 28,175
10. 36,750

Big-R
10-23-2013, 05:20 PM
Thanks again. Your a star

Denerio9
10-23-2013, 05:41 PM
Ha ..goodluck on getting your unit ...if you look at it
& think of the ugrades ..total cost of everthing in the
proccess of upgrades ..one question runs through ....
Is it all worth it?

Ratma2001
10-23-2013, 05:47 PM
LEVEL 2 UPGRADE $847.749 gold
thats with a 10% discount on Building construction

Person
10-23-2013, 06:11 PM
LEVEL 2 UPGRADE $847.749 gold
thats with a 10% discount on Building construction

and the time needed? raiding the money wont take too long, but if the upgrade times are too long, ill just buy 2 and upgrade leasurely.

AllFather Odin
10-23-2013, 06:19 PM
Well it's cool but they did it wrong, too expensive, dumb payout cycle and only 11 days to complete it. Le sigh

Well, Gree makes sure that in some port in time, you gotta gem. If it takes 2 days to build a building and there are 10 quest, then there is no way you can finish it all in 11 days unless you gem.

Love this game so much I wish i can throw my ipad off a building.

Euchred
10-23-2013, 06:21 PM
and the time needed? raiding the money wont take too long, but if the upgrade times are too long, ill just buy 2 and upgrade leasurely.

This is my guess for times. Same as the other games. A guild friend started the L2 upgrade and said it was 16 hours which is modded so these are likely the unmodded times. Remember -upgrade time % is not the same as build time.

1. 24
2. 30
3. 36
4. 42
5. 48
6. 54
7. 60
8. 66
9. 72
10. 78

StrictNine
10-23-2013, 06:26 PM
LEVEL 2 UPGRADE $847.749 gold
thats with a 10% discount on Building construction

Ratma I'm showing $547K taking 19:50 on time.

Alleran
10-23-2013, 06:32 PM
So do you get to keep the building after the quest ends? And if you do, can you keep upgrading it after the quest I'd over, even if you don't get the unit reward?

Ratma2001
10-23-2013, 06:33 PM
Ratma I'm showing $547K taking 19:50 on time.

Is that for the second level ? I gemmed the first level and original build time as gem cost is low and only about 240 gems so far but saved me 30+ hours

StrictNine
10-23-2013, 06:42 PM
Is that for the second level ? I gemmed the first level and original build time as gem cost is low and only about 240 gems so far but saved me 30+ hours

That is to upgrade to level 2.

Ratma2001
10-23-2013, 07:09 PM
That is to upgrade to level 2.

Just got jibbed ! went backinto game and Witch Lair has reverted back to level 1 and cost to upgrade to level 2 is still $847.749 ?? whats going on here ? so i just lost 847K gold for an upgrade that i made (Yes Ticket sent) , anyone else having this issue?
Is the Witch Lair cost varied dependant on your level ?
any other HLP have same cost ?
Also have the Unit that comes with upgrade ?

Nacon10
10-23-2013, 07:16 PM
def can't finish without gems, most i raided was 30 mil in 7 days so comes down to upgrade times.

StrictNine
10-23-2013, 07:16 PM
Just got jibbed ! went backinto game and Witch Lair has reverted back to level 1 and cost to upgrade to level 2 is still $847.749 ?? whats going on here ? so i just lost 847K gold for an upgrade that i made (Yes Ticket sent) , anyone else having this issue?
Is the Witch Lair cost varied dependant on your level ?
any other HLP have same cost ?
Also have the Unit that comes with upgrade ?

Just checked back and it is still $547k to upgrade from level 1-2. I'll update as soon as my other upgrades finish. Not going to rush them as this will cost me to many coins to finish. Good luck Brother.

Ratma2001
10-23-2013, 07:24 PM
Just checked back and it is still $547k to upgrade from level 1-2. I'll update as soon as my other upgrades finish. Not going to rush them as this will cost me to many coins to finish. Good luck Brother.

Thanks Strict, you can rush it ....you've got the coin..haha

Max Power
10-23-2013, 08:08 PM
So do you get to keep the building after the quest ends? And if you do, can you keep upgrading it after the quest I'd over, even if you don't get the unit reward?Its only available for purchase during the event. You only get prizes for upgrading during the event. After the event, you keep the building, and you can continue to upgrade, but wont get any more prizes for upgrading.

Alleran
10-23-2013, 08:27 PM
Its only available for purchase during the event. You only get prizes for upgrading during the event. After the event, you keep the building, and you can continue to upgrade, but wont get any more prizes for upgrading.

Very clear response. Thanks.

Ratma2001
10-23-2013, 08:57 PM
o.k ...thunk a thought !, if current cost for upgrades keep going up as percieved , then i will be there waiting for ALL the overvaulters...fair game ..fair warning..as i can not complete this quest as 50 Million less discount ..even 10% less 45 Million.. i will keep hitting until all energy is used... i doubt many would be able to complete this with out huge Vaults of gold and Mountains of gems...if you get there ..congrats i missed you but will be vigilant for next week

Rocco69
10-23-2013, 09:09 PM
initial build for me was 24 hours; but gem to finish dropped below 100 fairly quick so i did; 1st upgrade 530k+/- (my guild has all upgrade bonuses i have lvl 10 lendor & dont think anything else special)
now the finish time is only 20 hours (again ive got the standard guild bonuses plus maybe a bit) but the gem it faster is double the initial cost if i so choose

edit - checked my non guild bonuses somewhere i picked up another 6% upgrade discount
Next upgrade was 913k for 30 hours
Then 1544 for 36 hours

Vendetta V
10-23-2013, 09:30 PM
So is this a Limited time building or is it just a limited time to upgrade it, like the quest for mastering the Barrens was? If so I will purchase 2 of them, if not, I will just take my time(use all gold to upgrade one completely). If anyone knows if these will remain purchasable after the allotted time please let me know.

Is it possible to buy 2 Witch's lair buildings? after finishing building the 1st one, is the buy option still there or will there only be the option to upgrade?

Thanks

Lys
10-23-2013, 09:34 PM
Is it possible to buy 2 Witch's lair buildings? after finishing building the 1st one, is the buy option still there or will there only be the option to upgrade?

Thanks

So long as the event (Quest timer) is active, you can purchase up to 2 of them, just like normal income buildings. Once that quest is done, you will not be able to purchase them.

Nacon10
10-23-2013, 09:46 PM
Ran into a bunch built and raided them haha

Mr.Grumpy
10-23-2013, 09:57 PM
Ran into a bunch built and raided them haha

wow, that must have been quite a haul.

Liethe
10-23-2013, 09:58 PM
Ohh dear ...last one is level 7 -8 upgrade

Nacon10
10-23-2013, 10:03 PM
Let the over vaulting begin .

Chups Crow
10-23-2013, 10:44 PM
Too expensive for a mediocre unit.

BanDroid
10-23-2013, 10:47 PM
Ummm raid the **** out of people man! sell your manors sell your lenders sell everything..

Still.. you wont have 50M Gold... I mean yeah we buy gems , now gotta buy mountains of gold or something !

Ratma2001
10-23-2013, 10:48 PM
Already on the raiding wagon !...woot woot...now all we need is Dragoons !!!!!!!!

Mr.Grumpy
10-23-2013, 11:11 PM
Ohh dear ...last one is level 7 -8 upgrade

i really wished they had used and apostrophe in “witch’s” in stead of a foot mark ('). so f-ing amateur.

am i the only one who cares about this stuff?

YLL
10-23-2013, 11:24 PM
Approx payout every 4 hours
1. 1,225
2. 2,450
3. 4,288
4. 6,738
5. 9,800
6. 13,475
7. 17,763
8. 22,663
9. 28,175
10. 36,750

Too little, too late for too high a cost, as far as I am concerned. I think I'll continue winding down my activities in the game.

senna
10-23-2013, 11:32 PM
Those guilds which have maxed out all the guild bonuses are the greatest beneficiaries in such LTB quests. They don't have to balance the needs of guild upgrades vs. individual LTB quests. Envious

Frostpocket
10-23-2013, 11:38 PM
I had enough saved for another upgrade, and used that to buy it and will possibly get it to lvl 2, no further. This is no different from the MW 'buy a building and upgrade by yesterday' quest. I won't get much further than level two, but it's a different building and generates a decent income. I can think of one or two who will just have to have a level 10, like they have to have every unit, and the gems will flow. For me, part of this game is the anticipation of achievement, not about just finishing everything with gems. That isn't a game for me, it's just shopping . Each to his own.

Rocco69
10-23-2013, 11:46 PM
im on third upgrade & i can still buy a second if i dare

Nudist
10-24-2013, 08:40 AM
No thanks - there is no way finish it without serious real coin.

Voxker
10-24-2013, 10:21 AM
Would be a good idea to use those honors that were given out during raid bosses... I got over 700k sitting there, too bad I can't use them for my buildings..

Let's buy mountain of gold! Said no one ever.

Tojo
10-24-2013, 11:09 AM
Response I got for lvl 20 problem from Gree.
Delete and reinstall. Nothing of the gems I
Lost !

Max Power
10-24-2013, 11:49 AM
i really wished they had used and apostrophe in “witch’s” in stead of a foot mark ('). so f-ing amateur.

am i the only one who cares about this stuff?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/Mackiesback/129175631043689250.gif (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Mackiesback/media/129175631043689250.gif.html)

captainobvious
10-24-2013, 07:01 PM
Man i need to work on my iph and 460k for the witches house is way out of my range! Agree with the 11 day limit.. Im gonna work my butt off trying to get those coins from raids! Good luck everybody

aphroKEN
10-24-2013, 07:26 PM
Next LTB would probably be double the cost. Gold is useful again.

Zenobia
10-24-2013, 08:33 PM
Max Power, your siggy is PRICELESS!

As to the difficulty of the quest... I enjoy raiding. I actually enjoy PvP combat as well, but since they made the vault cap 3.4x what it was, I can't do much of that any more. This quest will hopefully cause more players to go overvault, so it gets a thumbs up from me on that account.

War Eagle
10-24-2013, 08:48 PM
Hey folks... A lot of info on here about the prices for each upgrade... So thanks.
But does anyone have a list of the unit prizes for each step? Aside from the big prize of course which is shown on the splash screen.

Sim
10-25-2013, 12:56 AM
Let's start it going, upgrade the Witch's Lair to:

Level 1: Drow Enchantress - 3,600/2,400 (Magic)
Level 2: Witch's Familiar - 3,000/4,500 (Beast)
Level 3: Dervish Assassin - 5,000/5,000 (Infantry)
Level 4: Summoned Demon - 7,150/5,850 (Magic)
Level 5: Gyrocopter - 7,650/9,350 (Machine)
Level 6: Pit Guardian - 11,400/10,560 (Beast)
Level 7: All Hallows Soldier - 13,750/11,250 (Infantry)
Level 8: Steam Engine - 24,000/16,000 (Machine)
Level 9: Icicle Dragon - 24,000/36,000 (Beast)
Level 10: Master Drow Witch - 52,000/48,000

hudysh
10-25-2013, 01:05 AM
Level 3

Dervish Assassin 5000/5000

Shadows
10-25-2013, 01:56 AM
Level 2

Witch's Familiar 3000/4500

Rastlin
10-25-2013, 02:18 AM
I have already raided someone with a lvl 9 Witch's Lair!!!!

Sim
10-25-2013, 03:21 AM
Approx. unmodded

1. 500,000
2. 835,000
3. 1,394,000
4. 2,328,000
5. 3,888,000
6. 6,494,000
7. 10,845,000
8. 18,112,000
9. 30,248,000
10. 50,514,000

Are we sure these costs are correct? The reason I ask is I have a HLP with 40% upgrade discount and a LLP with a 20% discount. Both accounts cost 450,000 for the initial build costs.

Person
10-25-2013, 03:48 AM
Are we sure these costs are correct? The reason I ask is I have a HLP with 40% upgrade discount and a LLP with a 20% discount. Both accounts cost 450,000 for the initial build costs.
Initial build cost is undiscounted, my first upgrade cost only 11k more than the build cost.

Nacon10
10-25-2013, 03:55 AM
1/10 Drow Enchantress 3600/2400
2/10 Witch's Familiar 3000/4500
3/10 Dervish Assassin 5000/5000
4/10 Summoned Demon 7150/5850
5/10 Gyrocopter 7650/9350

10/10 Master Drow Witch 52000/48000

AllFather Odin
10-25-2013, 05:48 AM
Thanks guys! Keep the reward stats and the upgrade cost stats updated as much as possible!

I can't believe the other LTQ is still having problems after all this time. Is this Gree's way of delaying it so that we have lesser time to finish and would have to rely on gems?

War Eagle
10-25-2013, 05:54 AM
Nice job putting in the stats everyone!
And @Rastlin... holy crap already a lvl 9!?

Euchred
10-25-2013, 06:14 AM
Are we sure these costs are correct? The reason I ask is I have a HLP with 40% upgrade discount and a LLP with a 20% discount. Both accounts cost 450,000 for the initial build costs.

Well they're approximate but my second upgrade cost me 492,117 with a 40.6% discount.

492,117 x .406 = 339,010

So add em up for the unmodded cost = 831,127 for level 2

So pretty close, more then likely some rounding errors as I don't know the ins and outs of Gree math

Nudist
10-25-2013, 07:03 AM
Max Power, your siggy is PRICELESS!

As to the difficulty of the quest... I enjoy raiding. I actually enjoy PvP combat as well, but since they made the vault cap 3.4x what it was, I can't do much of that any more. This quest will hopefully cause more players to go overvault, so it gets a thumbs up from me on that account.

Looks like a lot of people are already there in my level range. Its nice :)

Rasputin
10-25-2013, 08:09 AM
Well they're approximate but my second upgrade cost me 492,117 with a 40.6% discount.

492,117 x .406 = 339,010

So add em up for the unmodded cost = 831,127 for level 2

So pretty close, more then likely some rounding errors as I don't know the ins and outs of Gree math

I'm well versed in Gree math. Exact cost before guild and personal bonuses is 835,000. Time without bonuses is exactly 27 hrs. Both of those for level 2. What's odd is that the completion time from level 1 to level 2 is actually less than construction time to level 1. It's the first building Gree has released like that.

Aitrus
10-25-2013, 01:26 PM
I'm well versed in Gree math. Exact cost before guild and personal bonuses is 835,000. Time without bonuses is exactly 27 hrs. Both of those for level 2. What's odd is that the completion time from level 1 to level 2 is actually less than construction time to level 1. It's the first building Gree has released like that.

Thanks for that explanation. I tip my hat to your superior knowledge of Gree math! Sometimes i doubt that even Gree themselves understand it...

Zenobia
10-25-2013, 02:35 PM
Anyone have a list of the upgrade TIME for each level? Thanks.

Zenobia
10-25-2013, 02:48 PM
I feel silly. I was wondering why boosts did not work on the initial build. Actually, all relevant boosts DID work. It's just that the only boost I have (and likely all of us are in the same boat) that also affects the initial build (as opposed to upgrades) is the lumber mill. My main has a L10 LM and the cost was 450k. My mini only has a L6 LM and it would cost it 470k to build.

The same goes for the time boosts - they are no initial build time boosts, only upgrade ones.

Rasputin
10-25-2013, 05:02 PM
Upgrade time appears to be following one of the other buildings (forgot which but its on my spreadsheet at work. Playhouse maybe?). Level 3 is approx 30 hrs with full 5/5 guild time bonus which would put it at 39 hrs unboosted I believe.

Total time to completion would require gems to shave off something on the order of 120 hrs. That's not exact, but it should be close.

Rocco69
10-25-2013, 05:34 PM
Are we sure these costs are correct? The reason I ask is I have a HLP with 40% upgrade discount and a LLP with a 20% discount. Both accounts cost 450,000 for the initial build costs.
2nd was only 547 for me which at 1.67 puts final for me at 33m. Better than 50m but still out of reach

Vendetta V
10-26-2013, 05:07 AM
Wouldn't it be so nice when GREE posted the cost and upgrade time on the forum???!!!

Lara4578
10-26-2013, 09:40 AM
I have already raided someone with a lvl 9 Witch's Lair!!!!

How much are the payout for Lvl 9?

Thanks Raistlin

Rastlin
10-26-2013, 12:59 PM
How much are the payout for Lvl 9?

Thanks Raistlin
Just over 9,700 gold per hit, and they re-spawn every 4 hours. So sorry to the person that owns it, but you are my new Cash Cow...And thanks for attacking me back and giving me a link (got their lvl 10 manors too) LOL Now if they would hurry up on their second one as it is only lvl 4 so far..... LMAO.

MindMachine
10-26-2013, 11:58 PM
Lv 4 Witch Lair costs 1.373M...

Krissy
10-27-2013, 12:31 AM
It's a lot harder to find the "true" price because in the last war the missing miner gave -3% to upgrades and I think there were others too. Everyone is individualized. With the lumber mill and guild 5 upgrade costs using gree math. It is cost x 0.90 x 0.95 x 0.95 x 0.95 x 0.95 x 0.95 x ( individual bonus for example .97). = 0.6755(cost)

Vendetta V
10-27-2013, 12:37 AM
It's a lot harder to find the "true" price because in the last war the missing miner gave -3% to upgrades and I think there were others too. Everyone is individualized. With the lumber mill and guild 5 upgrade costs using gree math. It is cost x 0.90 x 0.95 x 0.95 x 0.95 x 0.95 x 0.95 x ( individual bonus for example .97). = 0.6755(cost)

I agree, I have several bonuses and thought I was ok, but my upgrade cost for lv.4 was 1.525 mill., assuming the next one will cost me 2.1m and considering the fact that there is not so much to raid at the moment, it will be difficult to do this next upgrade.. maybe more players will try to do the upgrade, so more overvaulted can be found...

Sim
10-27-2013, 03:19 AM
Can Anyone supply the missing rewards?


Let's start it going, upgrade the Witch's Lair to:

Updated: Thanks to all who helped!

Level 1: Drow Enchantress - 3,600/2,400 (Magic)
Level 2: Witch's Familiar - 3,000/4,500 (Beast)
Level 3: Dervish Assassin - 5,000/5,000 (Infantry)
Level 4: Summoned Demon - 7,150/5,850 (Magic)
Level 5: Gyrocopter - 7,650/9,350 (Machine)
Level 6: Pit Guardian - 11,400/10,560 (Beast)
Level 7: All Hallows Soldier - 13,750/11,250
Level 8: Steam Engine - 24,000/16,000
Level 9: Icicle Dragon - 24,000/36,000
Level 10: Master Drow Witch - 52,000/48,000

Person
10-27-2013, 09:28 AM
I'm not even going to try. Might get it to lvl 3 before the event ends, even lvl 4 is a distinct possibility but for some reason I don't have 9 hours a day to raid :)

That reminds me, shouldn't forget to buy a second one.

Liethe
10-27-2013, 04:15 PM
And i think it totaly sux that level 200 ppl are able to attack ppl that are way lower in level, i need to overvault 10 mil to at least make a run for level 9
I can understand if at same level or slightly above you either win or loose depending on what your effort is but to compete with one after the other player that is 30 levels higher and comes shopping is to say at least odd.

Liethe
10-27-2013, 04:19 PM
Can Anyone supply the missing rewards?
Level 8 is steam engine 24000/16000
Level 9 is icicle dragon 24000/36000

Krissy
10-27-2013, 04:35 PM
What's the payout for levels 6-10 every 4 hrs

Liethe
10-27-2013, 05:44 PM
Level 8 =22k

Throner
10-27-2013, 06:07 PM
Level 8 =22k

Sorry, whats 22K, the amount of gold you get when you collect?

Liethe
10-27-2013, 07:32 PM
Thats when you collect 

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?72163-Witch-s-Lair&p=1042522&viewfull=1#post1042522

Throner
10-27-2013, 07:48 PM
Thats when you collect 

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?72163-Witch-s-Lair&p=1042522&viewfull=1#post1042522

Nice! Thanks!

Vendetta V
10-28-2013, 12:32 AM
How much cost upgrade lv.5?

syKosis
10-28-2013, 12:36 AM
Around 3.8m without modifier bonuses, I got mine for about 2.5m.

Vendetta V
10-28-2013, 01:11 AM
Thanks SyKosis,

At the moment that is for sure a couple of hours raiding!
Problem is that with the other active quest, many players collect their buildings frequently, around my level I also don't see many players overvault...It looks like lv.5 will be the end for me...

mmalkove
10-28-2013, 08:26 AM
I think Gree wants you to buy mountains of gold now Vendetta V. For the level 5 would only be about $175 REAL LIFE dollars? That seems about right for only 1 unit half way through the quest right? WOW Grees Prices are absurd, If they would make a mountain $10-$20 I bet they would make a lot more money. I make a very good living and I could never see myself spending $1000's on an iphone game?? especially one that requires no skill and is not a challenge mentally (Although I think Gree is Mentally challenged LOL) . That being said I am addicted and love playing for free (tapjoy+Video gems only). 3.4mil/3.7 mil stats, not great but I like my Lexus more than this game.

The_Legend_Shall_Live_On
10-28-2013, 10:00 AM
Too expensive for a mediocre unit.

Isn't the unit over 500k attack, 400k defense, without the boost % added?

AllFather Odin
10-28-2013, 11:20 AM
Around 3.8m without modifier bonuses, I got mine for about 2.5m.

Mine is around 2.66mil if i decide to do it.....

mmalkove
10-28-2013, 12:59 PM
Isn't the unit over 500k attack, 400k defense, without the boost % added?

I think so but that is for finishing all 10 levels. That would not only cost you gems but also hundreds of $$ in mountains of gold. free players need not apply. We may get to level 5 if we are lucky.

Rastlin
10-28-2013, 02:10 PM
Isn't the unit over 500k attack, 400k defense, without the boost % added?
you mean 50k and 40k without boost added.

Metajetta
10-28-2013, 05:35 PM
I am not able to purchase this building after two re-dls - plenty of gold to purchase. After the epic "bonus CP unit" glitch that cost my guild huge in the last war - I'm really getting annoyed at this game. :(

The_Legend_Shall_Live_On
10-29-2013, 10:05 AM
you mean 50k and 40k without boost added.

Yes. Oops. Got one extra 0 in there.

Liethe
10-29-2013, 12:19 PM
This whole Quest is totaly bs for overvault in this timeframe whole of top 3 comes to visit to attack people around 30 levels lower, i now need to at least overvault 10-12 mil as i need 17 mil to get next level, this makes it with current game options totaly impossible to get that kind of gold.
I hope all the level 200 ish guys will be happy with what they got so far, i quit the Quest at level 8
Great job gree !! I more and more get annoyed and tend to quit this whole game...

Guido69
10-29-2013, 01:03 PM
This whole Quest is totaly bs for overvault in this timeframe whole of top 3 comes to visit to attack people around 30 levels lower, i now need to at least overvault 10-12 mil as i need 17 mil to get next level, this makes it with current game options totaly impossible to get that kind of gold.
I hope all the level 200 ish guys will be happy with what they got so far, i quit the Quest at level 8
Great job gree !! I more and more get annoyed and tend to quit this whole game...

So, you would like that nobody can raid you while you are overvault. What about people you raid?

Alexius
10-29-2013, 02:04 PM
So, you would like that nobody can raid you while you are overvault. What about people you raid?

I don't think she means that she shouldn't be raided, she's calling bs on level 200 players dipping 30 levels lower to raid which I agree is bs unless everyone has the ability to do that. You don't see level 100 guys raiding level 70 people.

Guido69
10-29-2013, 03:29 PM
I don't think she means that she shouldn't be raided, she's calling bs on level 200 players dipping 30 levels lower to raid which I agree is bs unless everyone has the ability to do that. You don't see level 100 guys raiding level 70 people.

It's part of the game and the essence of this event to raid and/or attack people. Why do you call it bs if level 200 players raid lower level players. If you don't like it, level up and do the same. What a nonsense. If I see a level 170 player who is overvault and has uncollected buildings I will take everything I can. How else do you think we can get the gold to complete this quest?

Rocco69
10-29-2013, 05:58 PM
As a lvl 200 player i can say my reach down ability still doesn't make up for my total loss of CP during wars. And don't get me started on the issue of how when i was lower level used to salivate over a 200/200 unit. Now it's basically given away (though useless anyway but you get my point).

Rastlin
10-29-2013, 06:02 PM
I don't think she means that she shouldn't be raided, she's calling bs on level 200 players dipping 30 levels lower to raid which I agree is bs unless everyone has the ability to do that. You don't see level 100 guys raiding level 70 people.
That is because GREE has refused to increase the level Cap. The only, and I mean only benefit to being level 200 is being able to raid down....

HAMM€R
10-29-2013, 06:17 PM
I am big excitement that I found lair of witch but now I need gold to buy it. Please someone kind to donate me gold? I have only 200 gold coin and will back pay you. Kindly thanks

Alexius
10-29-2013, 06:25 PM
It's part of the game and the essence of this event to raid and/or attack people. Why do you call it bs if level 200 players raid lower level players. If you don't like it, level up and do the same. What a nonsense. If I see a level 170 player who is overvault and has uncollected buildings I will take everything I can. How else do you think we can get the gold to complete this quest?

It's not nonsense. It's inequitable. They don't fill battle list for people 30 levels under for level 140 players, why allow it for level 200 players who have been playing everything regardless of the experience gain for a long time. Let you guys duke it out. Even 10 levels below would be fine but 30 levels is bs.

Voxker
10-29-2013, 06:31 PM
anyone got the lvl 10 upgrade?

Rastlin
10-29-2013, 06:36 PM
I am big excitement that I found lair of witch but now I need gold to buy it. Please someone kind to donate me gold? I have only 200 gold coin and will back pay you. Kindly thanks
You will loan it to you.

Chups Crow
10-29-2013, 07:03 PM
I am big excitement that I found lair of witch but now I need gold to buy it. Please someone kind to donate me gold? I have only 200 gold coin and will back pay you. Kindly thanks

You are definitely a big excitement!!

Rastlin
10-29-2013, 07:08 PM
It's not nonsense. It's inequitable. They don't fill battle list for people 30 levels under for level 140 players, why allow it for level 200 players who have been playing everything regardless of the experience gain for a long time. Let you guys duke it out. Even 10 levels below would be fine but 30 levels is bs.Wonder if you will change your tune once you get there......

Guido69
10-29-2013, 08:35 PM
Wonder if you will change your tune once you get there......

He will. In the meantime I will look out for him. Poor thing that he gets raided by higher levels.

Alexius
10-29-2013, 09:08 PM
He will. In the meantime I will look out for him. Poor thing that he gets raided by higher levels.

Thanks for the offer but it's okay, it's nothing that you guys can control with the way attack lists are presented. I can and will adapt but it doesn't change the ridiculousness of fighting someone that much lower in level when there are people much closer to you that can populate your lists. If it were reasonable then why not allow everyone else to reach that far? If i were able to pick on people 30 levels lower than me I would understand that it's fair game but the rules evidently change once your level is high. That's the issue, nothing more and nothing less.

kruppe
10-29-2013, 09:26 PM
I guess in a way the game has changed where there was a time when the forum would talk about the gauntlet that up and coming players would have face moving into whale territory.

I think most of us old timers have been through that and it came with the territory.

Rocco69
10-29-2013, 09:45 PM
Thanks for the offer but it's okay, it's nothing that you guys can control with the way attack lists are presented. I can and will adapt but it doesn't change the ridiculousness of fighting someone that much lower in level when there are people much closer to you that can populate your lists. If it were reasonable then why not allow everyone else to reach that far? If i were able to pick on people 30 levels lower than me I would understand that it's fair game but the rules evidently change once your level is high. That's the issue, nothing more and nothing less.

Wait till you hit 200 and then..... Yep still there. For ever. So far

Ratma2001
10-29-2013, 09:52 PM
have now lost both my Lairs ! What's going on here !

Rastlin
10-29-2013, 11:58 PM
have now lost both my Lairs ! What's going on here !
I saw them there today....nothing uncollected however...I really wanted to drink some wine but it was closed, tried to sleep with one the girls but she said no, tried to find a beer but I guess it was after 2am, then wanted to spend the night at an Inn since it was so late but no vacancies... All in all total bust for a fun night out on the town at Ratty's kingdom...

Liethe
10-30-2013, 01:07 AM
So, you would like that nobody can raid you while you are overvault. What about people you raid?
I dont say anything about being raided or attacked, i say something about being raided and attacked by players 30 levels higher whilst i Cant raid or attack that far up to whoop some a.. I can raid or attack just 10 levels up is one of the things i mean

Ratma2001
10-30-2013, 01:19 AM
I saw them there today....nothing uncollected however...I really wanted to drink some wine but it was closed, tried to sleep with one the girls but she said no, tried to find a beer but I guess it was after 2am, then wanted to spend the night at an Inn since it was so late but no vacancies... All in all total bust for a fun night out on the town at Ratty's kingdom...

Sorry Rastlin, I normally try to accommodate everyone....As I am out of country for next 9 days try then....haha

I found 1 lair but it's not in the spot I built it , it's not even on my purchased land parcels??
Not sure where the other one has gotten too, maybe biotch Witch cut it up to make Brooms out of it and flew away!
Struth! Can't trust Witches

Metajetta
10-30-2013, 05:36 AM
Wait! People are whining about being raided at +150?!? O.o

Do you know how LONG I have been working, as a "mostly" free player, so I don't drift into whale territory before I have a suitably upgraded vault and income to match? OVER A YEAR thankyouverymuch.

I had enough in the vault for two of the lairs but doggone game is playing mad tricks on me. I did get one built yesterday. Oh well. It looks like the MQ treehouse watchtower thing which I hated. ROFL!

So upgrades on this will only be available during the event? Bummer. :-/ Ce la vie.

Crow-Magnum
10-31-2013, 12:19 PM
Witch's Liar = interesting artwork, costly upgrades, low payout

Yes, I have my 2 built....but I'm definitely not motivated to take the to L10.

Voxker
10-31-2013, 12:23 PM
Witch's Liar = interesting artwork, costly upgrades, low payout

Yes, I have my 2 built....but I'm definitely not motivated to take the to L10.

well it pays out every 4 hours, its actually not that bad, i think most of us got to level 3-4, and lvl 4 is at 6740/4hrs... so a +1600 iph is pretty good.

Crow-Magnum
10-31-2013, 12:38 PM
I think most of us were hoping for a 12/24/48 hr collection time.

ShawnBB
11-01-2013, 12:29 PM
This is my guess for times. Same as the other games. A guild friend started the L2 upgrade and said it was 16 hours which is modded so these are likely the unmodded times. Remember -upgrade time % is not the same as build time.

1. 24
2. 30
3. 36
4. 42
5. 48
6. 54
7. 60
8. 66
9. 72
10. 78

How are you doing my man! I finally climbed to 10m IpH in CC.
Good to see some LTB here, I can finally undervault for a moment now lol

Euchred
11-01-2013, 01:09 PM
How are you doing my man! I finally climbed to 10m IpH in CC.
Good to see some LTB here, I can finally undervault for a moment now lol

I'm good bro you? I love that there's LTBs in KA now. unfortunately that's the only thing I like about this one, that it exists. Nice going on the 10 mil, if I has to guess I'd say L9 NCs. I almost have my L8 lair going, just a couple more mil then a break from raiding.

ShawnBB
11-01-2013, 08:56 PM
I'm good bro you? I love that there's LTBs in KA now. unfortunately that's the only thing I like about this one, that it exists. Nice going on the 10 mil, if I has to guess I'd say L9 NCs. I almost have my L8 lair going, just a couple more mil then a break from raiding.

Damn, how did u do that? My hood is already packed, keep losing millions over vault money. Will never afford expensive upgrades

NCs are only lvl8, I'm focusing on finishing pagoda and lvl6 west side gem, no interest saving.
My feeling to Gree games is changing all the time, still hanging there.