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Assault and Flattery
01-31-2014, 12:49 PM
Beginning at noon PST, take down your enemies one by one during Super Bowl Weekend and earn The Long Bomb. That's right! We are bringing back this classic PvP event so you can get your fight on while watching your favorite team.


http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/giiforums/Crime%20City/TheLongBombcopy_zpsed6f1447.png

Each goal comes with a prize, the more opponents you defeat, the nicer the gear.





http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/giiforums/Crime%20City/bloodbowl_zps834b9f19.png




Have a great time crushing your opponents!

Jeremy Kyle
01-31-2014, 12:51 PM
No syndicate goals? No mod? No half decent prizes? LET DOWN

KCUF
01-31-2014, 12:53 PM
Prizes are not that good. Better do Raid Boss event.

Kitty McPurr
01-31-2014, 12:53 PM
Have you guys entertained any of the suggestions to start uzis dropping during the PVP event? If I am not mistaken they used to for the first Raid Boss, and it seems like it would raise your revenue by helping more teams to finish elite mode...

Jeremy Kyle
01-31-2014, 12:53 PM
Very disappointed with no syn goals they could have done revamp, oh well no gold this event

Steve1302
01-31-2014, 12:54 PM
Thanks A&f. Is there going to be a gold sale ?

saggs
01-31-2014, 12:54 PM
come on Gree

Jeremy Kyle
01-31-2014, 12:57 PM
What about syn and individual ranking prizes?

Ghost1234
01-31-2014, 12:59 PM
Thanks A&F.
I like this kind of tournament.
If I remember in a right the previous PvPs were a little bit longer...

Wrendrak
01-31-2014, 01:00 PM
Very disappointed with no syn goals they could have done revamp, oh well no gold this event

That sums it up nicely. Prizes not very inspiring. Not spending gold on this. :mad:

Jeremy Kyle
01-31-2014, 01:05 PM
Not even a rank for ind and syn? You actually made pvp worse!!!!!! Great job GREE nobody will spend on this

Armalg-the-Good
01-31-2014, 01:06 PM
nevermind..

offline04
01-31-2014, 01:07 PM
What a joke...

Wolverine Eater
01-31-2014, 01:07 PM
A gold sale would be nice!

Jeremy Kyle
01-31-2014, 01:07 PM
A.) At least you get bricks for your effort

B.) The breakdown is different than other pvp events...there is only 50 wins in-between most of the prizes and the last tier only requires 100 extra wins. This doesn't seem that unreasonable to me and not that expensive to finish if you need to use gold at all.

You know that you start back at 0 when you finish a goal, add them all together and thats total wins

MsTink0514
01-31-2014, 01:08 PM
I have the goals, but no icon on the right of my screen. Is there no syndicate part to this pvp?

aron
01-31-2014, 01:08 PM
where's the leaderboard?

Green Drake
01-31-2014, 01:09 PM
Sigh. This is as boring as LTQ. Anyone can just push a button. Was hoping for at least trying to find decent targets. One more event to pass on.

The Toe
01-31-2014, 01:09 PM
WOW, not even close to what we were looking for. Just go attack people, get tons of exp, a few junk prizes and the end? No Rankings? No points? No nothing? Bummer.....

cditti
01-31-2014, 01:10 PM
first 3 targets I was going to hit are 15mil higher than me this is impossible

montecore
01-31-2014, 01:11 PM
This party sucks.

We were so pumped for the old PVP format.

Nighteg
01-31-2014, 01:11 PM
Is this a joke?

Mirmur
01-31-2014, 01:12 PM
So.. I see all is loving this. Good.

daddy99
01-31-2014, 01:14 PM
Horrible prizes + useless XP gain + no leaderboard competition + rivals list making it more difficult to find players to beat = sitting this one out. Thanks Gree for getting everyone excited and letting us down, yet again. . .

|Corruption|
01-31-2014, 01:15 PM
What is this even... Not a PVP anyway.

offline04
01-31-2014, 01:15 PM
Come on A&F, give us a real PVP, with leaderboard and all!!!

GucciMane
01-31-2014, 01:16 PM
Why no red uzis?

Davidvilla
01-31-2014, 01:19 PM
Almost 3500 bullets.. and the prizes... And no leaderboard... ?! Really GREE ?!

Green Drake
01-31-2014, 01:19 PM
When was the last time we had an event that actually went smoothly? Lags, screwed up timers, no matching in battles, now this junk.
How do the mods put on a smiley face and think we will actually enjoy this?

Emperor886
01-31-2014, 01:20 PM
Oh come on, I expected more from you, Gree. I'm not sure why...but I did.

I'm not taking part in this at all. Let us know when you want to do a real PVP and my credit card would be happy to join the party.

Steve1302
01-31-2014, 01:21 PM
How are we ment to win fight when yous have rearranged the rivals list with people around my stats ?
This game is getting border line on boring. But on the + side you saved me a vault thank you

Jeremy Kyle
01-31-2014, 01:22 PM
first 3 targets I was going to hit are 15mil higher than me this is impossible


Oh come on, I expected more from you, Gree. I'm not sure why...but I did.

I'm not taking part in this at all. Let us know when you want to do a real PVP and my credit card would be happy to join the party.

My credit card was out ready, back in my wallet now

Mean joe
01-31-2014, 01:23 PM
Thanks a f

dkong26
01-31-2014, 01:24 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

Another event to skip.

aron
01-31-2014, 01:24 PM
You took away the most fun part of pvp..

Dunky
01-31-2014, 01:26 PM
Ah hell no.... What The *peep* have u done this time Gree... Everyone was looking for a little In-house competition.
Its a let down that theres no syndicate quest and leaderboards...
Guess I'll be saving my money again, or maybe stop spending at all again..
I hope u know, ur scaring ur customers away... It's almost like u guys dont want to earn money..
Sheesshh...

Blowin Smoke
01-31-2014, 01:26 PM
Thanks for the information A&F.

The event is a huge disappointment though.

archambeau
01-31-2014, 01:28 PM
I love that within 5 minutes of the event starting my entire rival list is too beat up to fight. What a joke!

TRAZ
01-31-2014, 01:30 PM
Thanks for the info.

Feedback:

No syn goals or leaderboard. No bricks dropping. PvP = lots o bricks....missing those

Supposed to be a tournament right?

droffatsto50
01-31-2014, 01:31 PM
I did the first step to this event before looking and this and got really excited about how high stats the first unit was, this has let me down now though, hardly any stat difference from step 1 & 2, or even 5 for that matter.

Was also looking forward to the leader board tournament, of course not now. Thanks for the info, but this is a certain sit out for me now , gotta stay in tier 2 for the next boss event ;)

splinker
01-31-2014, 01:32 PM
Wow, it's amazing that GREE managed to make not very popular event even less fascinating.

poo hands
01-31-2014, 01:32 PM
Garbage....

possom
01-31-2014, 01:32 PM
Hahaha you guys really know how to screw yourself the people pay you salary and yet you do something like this.... I think everyone wanted a real pvp stop changing things when your making money on what you already have...If it ant broke don't fix it....take a look at what you made money off of in the past and stick to it......This game want be around another year if this keeps happening

Death Adder
01-31-2014, 01:33 PM
What a difficult PvP - prizes aren't worth the effort trying to find a rival.

ohlo-00
01-31-2014, 01:33 PM
Thank you Gree, rewards like this?? 1 win give me 20-30 sometimes 33 experience. lol

Danny Clear
01-31-2014, 01:33 PM
Ahhh reminds me of the old days of completely hating pvp. At least this is only individual so my syndicates ego doesent get in the way and get mad when I dont participate

MaschedUp
01-31-2014, 01:33 PM
Gree, you're doing a great job murdering this game.

EPIC FAIL.

KlitschkO
01-31-2014, 01:36 PM
what a joke...this is not like pvp in the past..in the past was based on influence points.

Beardface
01-31-2014, 01:37 PM
Seems like Gree misinterprets our requests. When we say, bring back PVP please!.. for however many months now.. we don't mean bring back a lessened, boring version of a once great event. Was so looking forward to this after not being able to do much of ERB at all due to lack of uzis. This was the saving grace for a dormant once fun quest(ERB) and now you have us double downed. Keep it up! The results aren't hard to predict even for a business model such as yours.

Yancool
01-31-2014, 01:37 PM
Ehhh..... All people on my rivals list are too beat to fight.... Not sure it's even possible to finish the event, even when using gold. Managed to get 47 hits in for the first 30min, and then everybody was beat up. Maybe if the event is stretched for the next 14 days it's possible to complete.

One question, has someone been testing this at all?

Second question, why is this called PVP and not PVP lite event? Half is missing!

b-w
01-31-2014, 01:37 PM
Oh snap! I just noticed the wins are counting for hardcore hitman and winning streak..you know, the things i am sure to never do..If i do this then i'm going to level up like crazy! NOOO. If i wanted to level up then this would be awesome..but i don't so it's like the exact opposite.

NOT RAD AT ALL

Ryno777
01-31-2014, 01:38 PM
Took away the one thing I liked about PVP's

Wrendrak
01-31-2014, 01:39 PM
Gree, you're doing a great job murdering this game.

EPIC FAIL.

^This.

extras.

Jeremy Kyle
01-31-2014, 01:39 PM
Called a Super Bowl tornament with no tournament lmao

Nikola
01-31-2014, 01:40 PM
How can you call it a tournament? Its not a tournament????? Wtf

MsTink0514
01-31-2014, 01:40 PM
Its not even a pvp...its just like any other fighting goal on your goals list. Might as well call it "Thug Life" goals extra. Without a leaderboard and syndicates competing this is NOT a PVP Tournament. I was also ready to use gold for this event, but not now. It isn't worth it.

CrAzYdOg
01-31-2014, 01:42 PM
If you had monkeys planning events they probably could do a better job than what you're doing... oh, probably you have monkeys making this events and that's why they are worse and worse...

The Slapper
01-31-2014, 01:42 PM
A n F, thank you very much for posting everything! Please keep doing so.

On another note, did the team at Gree really think this would be well received? Can we please win 3500 fights for the low price of 50,000 XP w no mods and zero syndicate rewards? Very disappointing...

tgreen
01-31-2014, 01:45 PM
1) everybody on rival list being 10 million higher than me so I can't attack? Check.

2) rare person I find with lower defense that I can attack is to beat up to fight? check

3). got hit 78 times in under 2 min according to news feed? check.

4) game play ruined further? check.

Thank you Gree.

Ken1378
01-31-2014, 01:45 PM
At the risk of being completely unoriginal, I'm going to pile on and mention that this event totally blows. The count resets after each goal and the prizes are absolutely horrible. This is not worth the experience gain. Somebody should tell the idiot programmers that a 2k/2k item is useless nowadays. Especially when I’m averaging 15 experience per fight.

But at least the scratchers and defense buildings are getting revamped! (only a year late on this) How long will we have to wait for new syndicate bonuses and for the att and def skill points to matter again? 2017?

dkong26
01-31-2014, 01:45 PM
...did the team at Gree really think...

Nope. That would be a first.

travisman1
01-31-2014, 01:46 PM
Glad im a free player. Less reasons to be mad. But we all should have expected this when GREE listened to us for once..

KingOW
01-31-2014, 01:46 PM
"We are bringing back this classic PvP event", no you didn't - you took a decent event and took all the fun out of it. Give us a real pvp tournament please, this blows hard. Crazy amount of xp for the stats gained + boring.

Zippy69
01-31-2014, 01:47 PM
does anyone know if these are just fights or unique opponent fights???

vtwin
01-31-2014, 01:47 PM
What a waste. Sad days. Not to mention so not worth my time due to the crappy android lag you refuse to fix. Once again you prove you can't do anything right

Arthur44
01-31-2014, 01:49 PM
Q: Does anyone at Gree actually play crime city?
A: Unlikely. As they would get it right more often.

Thanks for trying to listen to the feedback. Shame you got it so wrong.

Blowin Smoke
01-31-2014, 01:50 PM
Q: Does anyone at Gree actually play crime city?
A: Unlikely. As they would get it right more often.

Thanks for trying to listen to the feedback. Shame you got it so wrong.
Reposted for truth.

Steve1302
01-31-2014, 01:52 PM
Nearly 8 pages and still no response from a mod.
Come on gree sort this S*** out

montecore
01-31-2014, 01:53 PM
The hilarious thing is we weren't asking for much. Nothing new, nothing crazy, nothing that could dramatically go wrong or require big changes.

All we wanted was yet another PVP tournament in the same format as all the others.

You gave us this.

Jeremy Kyle
01-31-2014, 01:54 PM
Mods will say " you dont "have" to participate"

RealTeflonDon
01-31-2014, 01:55 PM
Q: Does anyone at Gree actually play crime city?
A: Unlikely. As they would get it right more often.

Thanks for trying to listen to the feedback. Shame you got it so wrong.
Reposted for truth.

+1 .

|Corruption|
01-31-2014, 02:00 PM
What? You don't want to get a few thousand wins for an awesome prize? I think they were just blowin smoke with this one. :D
Confirmed for GREE staff.

RealTeflonDon
01-31-2014, 02:00 PM
It's just more subliminal exercises in masochism...

"Hey!! We'd like your feedback!!"

**Disclaimer**
We're only implementing the worst part of your suggestions.


next thing we'll see is that defense buildings got weaker, uzi drop rates decreased, previous LTBs reintroduced for about 10vaults a piece, and who knows what else could be terribly implemented?

Muj
01-31-2014, 02:01 PM
"We are bringing back this classic PvP event", no you didn't - you took a decent event and took all the fun out of it. Give us a real pvp tournament please, this blows hard. Crazy amount of xp for the stats gained + boring.
Don't forget the amazing rewards and convenient rivals list setup they have for us

Jeremy Kyle
01-31-2014, 02:04 PM
first 3 targets I was going to hit are 15mil higher than me this is impossible


It's just more subliminal exercises in masochism...

"Hey!! We'd like your feedback!!"

**Disclaimer**
We're only implementing the worst part of your suggestions.


next thing we'll see is that defense buildings got weaker, uzi drop rates decreased, previous LTBs reintroduced for about 10vaults a piece, and who knows what else could be terribly implemented?


Way to give them ideas

sledo
01-31-2014, 02:06 PM
Wonderful. first you f.c..d rival list and now this stupid event...

gREeALIST
01-31-2014, 02:06 PM
Mods will say " you dont "have" to participate"


The events are optional. You don't *have* to participate in every event if that is not your bag (heck, you don't have to participate in ANY to just play the game), and a lot of people are selective about what they participate in.
Already said (but worth repeating). :p

lsjs41
01-31-2014, 02:11 PM
Thanks was looking forward to this but the rival list makes it very difficult. even when i do find a target i can beat they are already too beat up, wont waste anymore time looking for rivals.

cooch
01-31-2014, 02:14 PM
To summarize:

1. This is a NOOB event. Gree probably has a lot of new meat since last PVP offered and are easing them in to see how many spend gold. We haven't seen this type of event in a couple of years.

2. Recycled top prizes. Peeps like Monte and I won those over 1.5 years ago in individual PVP tourneys including the weapons on top 2 and 3 prizes. Think peeps who have been in game less than 1.5 years ago need to know that. Not because we are good, spent gold, etc No just to let you know looks like dusted off old events.

3. Gold Sale: Here's a helpful hint to Noobs: Gree only offers sales during war weekends and special times in year like Black Friday. So you need to plan your gold spending accordingly. Paying list price for gold is silly.

4. Play your style: Use gold if you want or play free. At least you'll get some bricks for Syn. It's a disappointment but maybe they will ease us into the Syn PVP, Syn/Indiv PVP/Rob events. Hopefully they are not recycling the whole 2 year cycle of PVP development.

kingofwale
01-31-2014, 02:29 PM
To summarize:

1. This is a NOOB event. Gree probably has a lot of new meat since last PVP offered and are easing them in to see how many spend gold. We haven't seen this type of event in a couple of years.

2. Recycled top prizes. Peeps like Monte and I won those over 1.5 years ago in individual PVP tourneys including the weapons on top 2 and 3 prizes. Think peeps who have been in game less than 1.5 years ago need to know that. Not because we are good, spent gold, etc No just to let you know looks like dusted off old events.

3. Gold Sale: Here's a helpful hint to Noobs: Gree only offers sales during war weekends and special times in year like Black Friday. So you need to plan your gold spending accordingly. Paying list price for gold is silly.

4. Play your style: Use gold if you want or play free. At least you'll get some bricks for Syn. It's a disappointment but maybe they will ease us into the Syn PVP, Syn/Indiv PVP/Rob events. Hopefully they are not recycling the whole 2 year cycle of PVP development.
1.. well, it wouldn't be a fair representation, a good PVP a lot of people will spend gold, definitely not the case here.

2... don't care much about recycling.

3... gold sale would be helpful with raid boss. but it's not that big of a deal.

4... I remember you can get banned for saying "boycotting an event". I guess it's only okay if the gree mods say it. ;)

KCUF
01-31-2014, 02:35 PM
Everyone on my rival list is beaten up. I can't find any rival who can find. Refreshing the list is giving me the same rivals over and over again, all beaten up.

How do I get new, fresh rivals?

Is there anyone at Gree's who doesn't have an intellectual disability?

RealTeflonDon
01-31-2014, 02:39 PM
Lmao... ahh I can't even quote it but damn what a hilarious question

KillaDon
01-31-2014, 02:39 PM
To summarize:

1. This is a NOOB event. Gree probably has a lot of new meat since last PVP offered and are easing them in to see how many spend gold. We haven't seen this type of event in a couple of years.

2. Recycled top prizes. Peeps like Monte and I won those over 1.5 years ago in individual PVP tourneys including the weapons on top 2 and 3 prizes. Think peeps who have been in game less than 1.5 years ago need to know that. Not because we are good, spent gold, etc No just to let you know looks like dusted off old events.

3. Gold Sale: Here's a helpful hint to Noobs: Gree only offers sales during war weekends and special times in year like Black Friday. So you need to plan your gold spending accordingly. Paying list price for gold is silly.

4. Play your style: Use gold if you want or play free. At least you'll get some bricks for Syn. It's a disappointment but maybe they will ease us into the Syn PVP, Syn/Indiv PVP/Rob events. Hopefully they are not recycling the whole 2 year cycle of PVP development.

Isn't MW and KA made by Gree. Well Gree has ran numerous gold sales in these game on off war weekends kinds like TODAY in MW. We don't have a war hit we have raid boss(like CC) and a LTQ that just dropped and this is the 2nd raid boss event in MW and both times gold dale was ran. Just saying. But yes as far as all the other stuff you are absolutely right. Don't think at all I am sticking up for Gree cause I think it's ridiculous that ya can't treat CC the same way as the other games.

saggs
01-31-2014, 02:42 PM
Gree has absolutely ruined this game. They should think about selling to a company that knows how to NOT screw up


Amen brother................

What are they thinkin? oh wait maybe they are to busy counting cash then do something interesting with the game..

Almost time to move on.

RealTeflonDon
01-31-2014, 02:44 PM
Definitely closing in on that "moving on" point.

t12pm
01-31-2014, 02:45 PM
Isn't MW and KA made by Gree. Well Gree has ran numerous gold sales in these game on off war weekends kinds like TODAY in MW. We don't have a war hit we have raid boss(like CC) and a LTQ that just dropped and this is the 2nd raid boss event in MW and both times gold dale was ran. Just saying. But yes as far as all the other stuff you are absolutely right. Don't think at all I am sticking up for Gree cause I think it's ridiculous that ya can't treat CC the same way as the other games.

Gold sale wouldn't help every rival is too beat up on my list, I just don't understand we had this before they fixed it, now the redo the rivals list and bring this back WTF

Muj
01-31-2014, 02:49 PM
People are still participating in the event? The rewards are garbage..

[INFAMOUS]
01-31-2014, 03:02 PM
Gree wont earn much influence points on this one.

Beamer 420
01-31-2014, 03:06 PM
- 1 I want real PVP back!

Jeremy Kyle
01-31-2014, 03:07 PM
Can we at least have a mod give us a situation update? This clearly isn't what you meant for us

RealTeflonDon
01-31-2014, 03:08 PM
Blood Bowl LXVIII PvP "Tournament"

Where is the tournament portion?



Can we at least have a mod give us a situation update? This clearly isn't what you meant for us

We can only hope this isn't what was intended...

Dat Guy
01-31-2014, 03:09 PM
At least there is about a twenty second pause between hitting the rival's profile button and seeing their stats and then another ten second or so pause before you realize that this rival is too beat up to fight.

montecore
01-31-2014, 03:10 PM
I remember the first few PVP events, one I couldn't finish, because the RL was broken. It was full of people you couldn't attack, only rob, levels far lower than 250. You had to refresh constantly just to find that one random target you could possibly be allowed to attack.

So in that sense, this is a bit of a throwback to traditional CC PVP.

Ysae Kaeps ASU
01-31-2014, 03:11 PM
It's just more subliminal exercises in masochism...

"Hey!! We'd like your feedback!!"

**Disclaimer**
We're only implementing the worst part of your suggestions.


next thing we'll see is that defense buildings got weaker, uzi drop rates decreased, previous LTBs reintroduced for about 10vaults a piece, and who knows what else could be terribly implemented?

The first time you have been almost wrong. LOL.

YOU FORGOT TO ALSO ADD:

The bosses will become 70% stronger each cycle.
It will require more folders to summons them.
Each level will require more bosses to complete.
The rivals list will be tweaked for maximum dislike.
The cost of Uzis will increase as will war reloads.
War will require more for rewards and they will be harder to obtain.
Glitches will be hourly events.
Spot the newest glitch will become fun.
Refunds will be reduced.
Compensation will be removed from the dictionary.
Staff will be required to do twice as much in half the time as more and more events get thrown out on top of each other.
And the shrills will be around in ever increasing numbers to quash any comment considered a 'complaint' against Gree.
Everyone except the shrills will be called trolls.

djonny88
01-31-2014, 03:12 PM
Please make it able to do it already

RealTeflonDon
01-31-2014, 03:14 PM
Thanks! You meant "shills" though. ;-)

At any rate, +1

Jeremy Kyle
01-31-2014, 03:23 PM
This is definatly not what GREE planned im guessing something somewhere threw a spanner in the works, thats why there's no reply so far

KingOW
01-31-2014, 03:26 PM
So next battle weekend gonna be fun, just go with this concept and remove syndicate points there too. The individual goal for wins is enough! </irony>

Blowin Smoke
01-31-2014, 03:30 PM
The mods are continually viewing this thread, yet are failing to address issues brought up several times.
And surprisingly there's a lot more constructive ness to the posts here and a lot less flaming than I thought.

t12pm
01-31-2014, 03:30 PM
I remember the first few PVP events, one I couldn't finish, because the RL was broken. It was full of people you couldn't attack, only rob, levels far lower than 250. You had to refresh constantly just to find that one random target you could possibly be allowed to attack.

So in that sense, this is a bit of a throwback to traditional CC PVP.

Exactly monte glad I'm not the only one who remembered that they had to open the list up or something now they redo the rivals list and it is back like it was. Not to mention there is hardly anyone I can win a fight against now

Jeremy Kyle
01-31-2014, 03:35 PM
Cj is replying so we will have answers soon

cooch
01-31-2014, 03:37 PM
Isn't MW and KA made by Gree. Well Gree has ran numerous gold sales in these game on off war weekends kinds like TODAY in MW. We don't have a war hit we have raid boss(like CC) and a LTQ that just dropped and this is the 2nd raid boss event in MW and both times gold dale was ran. Just saying. But yes as far as all the other stuff you are absolutely right. Don't think at all I am sticking up for Gree cause I think it's ridiculous that ya can't treat CC the same way as the other games.

KD: Referring to CC only, don't care about MW and KA other than comparisons of service levels to CC. In CC what I posted about gold sales is True...don't let newbies for CC get their hopes up for gold sale.

(violence) vinniecc
01-31-2014, 03:44 PM
Yes, prizes not so great! Never are they worth gold, unless free gold! Thanks A & F

gazzerman
01-31-2014, 03:49 PM
To complete this task with the lag it is impossible to do it in less than 21 hours of continuous play with gold.
Finding targets and them not being to beat up will add to this time in a huge way.

My thoughts are that its not mathematically possible to complete due to the game being so slow.

ploop
01-31-2014, 03:50 PM
Bring back the old PvP tournaments.

Blowin Smoke
01-31-2014, 03:51 PM
Cj is replying so we will have answers soon
He had second thoughts

CJ54
01-31-2014, 03:52 PM
Okay guys, we're listening on this one, so I want to make sure that we're hearing the right things. If people can keep this tuned to constructive suggestions, that will help (there's a lot of "this stinks, bring back the old way" with no other details, in the last ten pages. That doesn't help.).

Firstly, design goals. We hear a lot of concerns about the number of events going on, and the involvement required for those events. The design goal for this one was specifically to have a lighter, more fun and relaxed event that had a low barrier to participation, and we figured this fit the general theme of the "big game weekend" going in in the States this weekend. Something clean, glitch-free that you could do while sitting around munching on snacks and watching the game (if that is your thing, if not, still a lighter event). That's the main reason for the lack of syndicate/individual leaderboard aspect, although I hear you guys when you say that is what you want out of an event like this.

There are also technical limitations to the leaderboard aspect. The old pvp events of yore were usually done in a very "hacky" way in the background that involved no visible leaderboard and a logging/ script combo used to determine winners after the fact. That method was fraught with potential technical weirdness, especially with the involvement of syndicates/factions (that was one of the reasons we hadn't had one of these in awhile) and again we wanted something fun and glitch-free this time.

A lot of the other frustration in here seems to be due to the recent rivals list change, if I am reading things correctly, which really deserves its own thread (as it impacts peoples' enjoyment of the event but is not the event itself).

Are there any other points that I am missing in regard to the event structure and what people would like to see? Again, please keep it constructive.

tgreen
01-31-2014, 03:56 PM
My biggest issue(s) would indeed be tied to the rival list first and foremost. Everybody is either "too beat up to fight" or 10-15-20 million above my attack level. So there is nobody for me to hit.

Secondly, I have over 100-150 news feed items. I am getting hit every other second.

Blowin Smoke
01-31-2014, 03:57 PM
Cj54 the prizes for the involvement needed is terrible. And as you mentioned, the lack of a syndicate goal and a leaderboard makes me want to sit this one out.

eleosrincon
01-31-2014, 04:00 PM
Every one in my list has the same stats as me and I don't want to give them a way to my hood to take my money.

Nighteg
01-31-2014, 04:00 PM
Okay guys, we're listening on this one, so I want to make sure that we're hearing the right things. If people can keep this tuned to constructive suggestions, that will help (there's a lot of "this stinks, bring back the old way" with no other details, in the last ten pages. That doesn't help.).

Firstly, design goals. We hear a lot of concerns about the number of events going on, and the involvement required for those events. The design goal for this one was specifically to have a lighter, more fun and relaxed event that had a low barrier to participation, and we figured this fit the general theme of the "big game weekend" going in in the States this weekend. Something clean, glitch-free that you could do while sitting around munching on snacks and watching the game (if that is your thing, if not, still a lighter event). That's the main reason for the lack of syndicate/individual leaderboard aspect, although I hear you guys when you say that is what you want out of an event like this.

There are also technical limitations to the leaderboard aspect. The old pvp events of yore were usually done in a very "hacky" way in the background that involved no visible leaderboard and a logging/ script combo used to determine winners after the fact. That method was fraught with potential technical weirdness, especially with the involvement of syndicates/factions (that was one of the reasons we hadn't had one of these in awhile) and again we wanted something fun and glitch-free this time.

A lot of the other frustration in here seems to be due to the recent rivals list change, if I am reading things correctly, which really deserves its own thread (as it impacts peoples' enjoyment of the event but is not the event itself).

Are there any other points that I am missing in regard to the event structure and what people would like to see? Again, please keep it constructive.

1) We hate the new rivals list. BRING BACK THE OLD ONE.
2) We want the regular PvP event. BRING BACK THE OLD ONE.

cooch
01-31-2014, 04:01 PM
Okay guys, we're listening on this one, so I want to make sure that we're hearing the right things. If people can keep this tuned to constructive suggestions, that will help (there's a lot of "this stinks, bring back the old way" with no other details, in the last ten pages. That doesn't help.).

Firstly, design goals. We hear a lot of concerns about the number of events going on, and the involvement required for those events. The design goal for this one was specifically to have a lighter, more fun and relaxed event that had a low barrier to participation, and we figured this fit the general theme of the "big game weekend" going in in the States this weekend. Something clean, glitch-free that you could do while sitting around munching on snacks and watching the game (if that is your thing, if not, still a lighter event). That's the main reason for the lack of syndicate/individual leaderboard aspect, although I hear you guys when you say that is what you want out of an event like this.

There are also technical limitations to the leaderboard aspect. The old pvp events of yore were usually done in a very "hacky" way in the background that involved no visible leaderboard and a logging/ script combo used to determine winners after the fact. That method was fraught with potential technical weirdness, especially with the involvement of syndicates/factions (that was one of the reasons we hadn't had one of these in awhile) and again we wanted something fun and glitch-free this time.

A lot of the other frustration in here seems to be due to the recent rivals list change, if I am reading things correctly, which really deserves its own thread (as it impacts peoples' enjoyment of the event but is not the event itself).

Are there any other points that I am missing in regard to the event structure and what people would like to see? Again, please keep it constructive.

1. Seems for most the RL is refreshing the 90% same rivals even after 5 refreshes

2. Rivals List for many, especially above lvl 175, you have set what we see Defenses at our level or 25%+ higher for 90% of list (look not precise estimate but many in chats off line are commenting)

3. What rivals you can beat are "dead" because they have been attacked the max. What is the refresh time for "dead" rivals. Is it an hour like normal times or 1/2 hour?

4. You combine these facts you have most people trying either to find a suitable rival looking at 20 or more hoods or a rival that can be PVP with the same amount of refreshing.

The "dead" rivals has always been a situation as part of any PVP event. But this time because you don't have the breadth of rival strength it is a big problem. The depth of rival list is fine, more than past PVP, but your restrictions set on RL matchups will continue to make PVP events a frustrating issue for many.

Hope that is constructing, not whining, and explains what we are seeing across Top 100s etc

Whether your team likes it or not CJ the new changes to RL negatively affects PVP events not making it more exciting. That was pretty obvious to me when launched.

Even those all for the changes to be able to rob hoods, based on comments from those few, seem to indicate they are having trouble or don't like implications for PVP. Fact not whining.

steamboatwilly
01-31-2014, 04:02 PM
I spend 10 minutes looking for a rival cause they are all beat up or the def is way above my attack. It's just not worth the effort to put in to get nothing back. Good try but back to the drawing board.

montecore
01-31-2014, 04:03 PM
Okay guys, we're listening on this one, so I want to make sure that we're hearing the right things. If people can keep this tuned to constructive suggestions, that will help (there's a lot of "this stinks, bring back the old way" with no other details, in the last ten pages. That doesn't help.).

Firstly, design goals. We hear a lot of concerns about the number of events going on, and the involvement required for those events. The design goal for this one was specifically to have a lighter, more fun and relaxed event that had a low barrier to participation, and we figured this fit the general theme of the "big game weekend" going in in the States this weekend. Something clean, glitch-free that you could do while sitting around munching on snacks and watching the game (if that is your thing, if not, still a lighter event). That's the main reason for the lack of syndicate/individual leaderboard aspect, although I hear you guys when you say that is what you want out of an event like this.

There are also technical limitations to the leaderboard aspect. The old pvp events of yore were usually done in a very "hacky" way in the background that involved no visible leaderboard and a logging/ script combo used to determine winners after the fact. That method was fraught with potential technical weirdness, especially with the involvement of syndicates/factions (that was one of the reasons we hadn't had one of these in awhile) and again we wanted something fun and glitch-free this time.

A lot of the other frustration in here seems to be due to the recent rivals list change, if I am reading things correctly, which really deserves its own thread (as it impacts peoples' enjoyment of the event but is not the event itself).

Are there any other points that I am missing in regard to the event structure and what people would like to see? Again, please keep it constructive.

Here is another gift to Gree regarding the rivals list algorithm: During PVP events, and preferably all the time, only display rivals that aren't in a cool down. Very simple. Whatever you're using now, if it returns 20 names and 18 can't be hit, run it again until you have 20 that can actually be attacked or robbed.

As it stands now, we hit refresh, attack each person, and find that they can't be attacked. Each refresh tends to yield the same 15 people with 5 new ones who typically can't be hit either.

During regular game play it's an issue, because we all see the same 40 people. Which means they've already all been robbed by my teammates. Which means we can't rob anyone.

Cliff's notes: Serve up a RL where everyone can be attacked/robbed and 90% of the issues go away.

aron
01-31-2014, 04:03 PM
Launch it with the syn/indi goals and add this pvp ltq to it you would have 5 pages of thanks rather than 11 pages of this sux

CJ54
01-31-2014, 04:04 PM
My biggest issue(s) would indeed be tied to the rival list first and foremost. Everybody is either "too beat up to fight" or 10-15-20 million above my attack level. So there is nobody for me to hit.

Secondly, I have over 100-150 news feed items. I am getting hit every other second.

Those are some valid concerns for an event like this and in general. The "too beat up to fight" one is actually something that we hear every time we have had a pvp event (including the old ones), just because everyone is attacking everyone else. We raised the "beaten up" threshhold, which also caused its own series of complaints. The newsfeed spam similarly came up in past events, but some of the potential cures are worse than the disease.

CCKallDAY
01-31-2014, 04:05 PM
A lot of the other frustration in here seems to be due to the recent rivals list change, if I am reading things correctly, which really deserves its own thread (as it impacts peoples' enjoyment of the event but is not the event itself).

Are there any other points that I am missing in regard to the event structure and what people would like to see? Again, please keep it constructive.Yes, the rivals list is the big deal. I'm happy with everything in this event, just the rivals list is the annoying part, i keep seeing the same people over and over on my rivals list and they are all beat up. I had to refresh several times to find a target that was beatable.

montecore
01-31-2014, 04:09 PM
Those are some valid concerns for an event like this and in general. The "too beat up to fight" one is actually something that we hear every time we have had a pvp event (including the old ones), just because everyone is attacking everyone else. We raised the "beaten up" threshhold, which also caused its own series of complaints. The newsfeed spam similarly came up in past events, but some of the potential cures are worse than the disease.

So stop populating the rivals list with "beaten up" players.

CC Gangsta
01-31-2014, 04:09 PM
CJ - thanks for your time replying, but if you read back carefully you will get the gist of all the current problems and concerns.
The MOST important one that needs addressing is the current Rival List problem. Currently we have the same 20-25 people on our rival lists (been like this for around a week now) and they are all beat up. So we now have a "lite" event that no one can participate in or attack people to even get close to the ridiculous 3500 wins for a less than appetising prize.

Please fix the RL issues ASAP and consider adding a defence Mod to the grand prize.

CJ54
01-31-2014, 04:12 PM
Cj54 the prizes for the involvement needed is terrible. And as you mentioned, the lack of a syndicate goal and a leaderboard makes me want to sit this one out.

I hear you. There are potentially conflicting design goals between the different ways you can do one of these, and I can understand wanting to marshal the syndicate for more freeform pvp than is found in a Bay City event.


Every one in my list has the same stats as me and I don't want to give them a way to my hood to take my money.

Some things involve risk.


So stop populating the rivals list with "beaten up" players.

Especially during a pvp event, that state can (and does) change between the time someone is on your list and when you press the attack button.

KCUF
01-31-2014, 04:14 PM
"we figured this fit the general theme of the "big game weekend" going in in the States this weekend."

I think the world is bigger than the States. What game weekend are you talking about? I know Gree doesn't care about European players.

daddy99
01-31-2014, 04:17 PM
The main problem with the new Rivals List is the fact that it no longer makes sense to be strong for your level. This may not apply to levels 225+ but it definitely applies to lower levels. There is no longer incentive to be strong for your level.

CJ54
01-31-2014, 04:17 PM
"we figured this fit the general theme of the "big game weekend" going in in the States this weekend."

I think the world is bigger than the States. What game weekend are you talking about? I know Gree doesn't care about European players.

Theme by definition does not impact actual mechanics, it is just flavor. If you are referring to the time of day that we push events, no. We push events during business hours Pacific time because that is where we are located and people need to be in-office to push the buttons and make it go. That isn't not caring about European players. If you are referring to something else, please let me know, but don't derail the thread with unrelated concerns please.

Dat Guy
01-31-2014, 04:21 PM
Thanks a ton for your candid answers CJ it is really appreciated.

Is there anything in the works to increase the drop rate of items necessary to complete the Raid Boss events?

Thank you

I love tacos
01-31-2014, 04:22 PM
Boring. Where is the Crime in Crime City. The rival list needs to be fixed. And can you get rid if the inactive ppl. What a waste of time going into there hoods.

Smuuve
01-31-2014, 04:22 PM
Will the leaderboard come at the end? Are you guys just saving space by doing it that way or is this all there is too it?

montecore
01-31-2014, 04:24 PM
I hear you. There are potentially conflicting design goals between the different ways you can do one of these, and I can understand wanting to marshal the syndicate for more freeform pvp than is found in a Bay City event.



Some things involve risk.



Especially during a pvp event, that state can (and does) change between the time someone is on your list and when you press the attack button.

I don't think you understand. Every single time I reload my rivals list, I get the following players:

tam
C-Money
Geo
Madam Liv
luke
Skye
zangief
uffuff (level 202 hacker, but that's another story)
Rooster

These ones are there about every other time I refresh:

VIK
-INF@MOU5-
FAST EDDIE
peggiesue
TonyTBoss

And then there are a handful of others, probably less than 100 in total if I refresh the list 40 times.

The issue is that the first and second list of players are all "too beat up already". What I am proposing is that when I hit refresh, those players are all yanked from the pool and I get 20 new names until they are hittable again. I don't care about the defenses or the levels.

As it stands now I will continue to refresh, and I will continue to find tam, Rooster, zangief, and Geo at the top of my list. And they are all too beaten up except for tam. Who I am now hitting and losing to on occasion. And then she will be too beaten up again.

KCUF
01-31-2014, 04:31 PM
Theme by definition does not impact actual mechanics, it is just flavor. If you are referring to the time of day that we push events, no. We push events during business hours Pacific time because that is where we are located and people need to be in-office to push the buttons and make it go. That isn't not caring about European players. If you are referring to something else, please let me know, but don't derail the thread with unrelated concerns please.

Still don't know what game weekend you mean. PacMan or Space Invaders? Why is a "Game weekend" in the States a reason to create a simple version of the PvP-event. I don't get it.

|Corruption|
01-31-2014, 04:33 PM
Theme by definition does not impact actual mechanics, it is just flavor. If you are referring to the time of day that we push events, no. We push events during business hours Pacific time because that is where we are located and people need to be in-office to push the buttons and make it go. That isn't not caring about European players. If you are referring to something else, please let me know, but don't derail the thread with unrelated concerns please.
It wasn't always the case. Events used to start at 12 noon and sometimes 2or3pm EST. Why are exceptions then made for battle? Hmm.. As it stands, that story doesn't add up.

Rjc
01-31-2014, 04:34 PM
The limited rivals list is making this event extremely difficult. I have around 60 people in my rivals list but most are too beat up. Sooo it looks like another event that will result in a lot of complaining.

CJ54
01-31-2014, 04:41 PM
Montecore, I checked in about that (the "same small list of rivals no matter what). That is actually something the engineers are looking into.


It wasn't always the case. Events used to start at 12 noon and sometimes 2or3pm EST. Why are exceptions then made for battle? Hmm.. As it stands, that story doesn't add up.

When they go out later, it isn't an intentional exception, it's because something needed some last minute tweaking.

Mean joe
01-31-2014, 04:42 PM
Thanks for the info AF We had the whole syn hyped up. We officers even bought I tunes and google play cards to give out to the top syn points but once again gree screws it up.

Babytway
01-31-2014, 04:45 PM
instead of all the complaining, why not just sit and enjoy it bcuz when all and done, your gonna do the pvp anyway, just saying

Hulkzy
01-31-2014, 04:49 PM
instead of all the complaining, why not just sit and enjoy it bcuz when all and done, your gonna do the pvp anyway, just saying

Errr, no one I know is bothering with it. If you're going ahead with it, good luck to you.

Hulkzy
01-31-2014, 04:51 PM
CJ, explain this one to me. There's a guy constantly attacking me, but when I hit him back he's too beat up, yet a minute later he's attacking me again. He must be Wolverine if he can heal that quickly.

CJ54
01-31-2014, 04:58 PM
CJ, explain this one to me. There's a guy constantly attacking me, but when I hit him back he's too beat up, yet a minute later he's attacking me again. He must be Wolverine if he can heal that quickly.

People can still attack while they are too beaten up to be attacked (so can you, but you won't see it since there is no indication of when you are too beaten up). That has always been true.

Deadwater
01-31-2014, 05:11 PM
People too beat up and I only see the same 10ish players over and over again in my rivals list...what do you expect me to do?

Cobra Shuttle
01-31-2014, 05:17 PM
It's not the lack of Syndicate goals and leader boards, we get that those are hard to do right quickly. It's crappy prizes! The amount of effort to get anything worthwhile when we are having a boss event where better items are given away basically for free by the dozens. Then to top it off the new rival list is so bad that it makes finding a suitable target extremely hard compared to before and makes the retaliation even more risky than before.

This event just isn't worth the effort in the slightest.

Hulkzy
01-31-2014, 05:18 PM
People can still attack while they are too beaten up to be attacked (so can you, but you won't see it since there is no indication of when you are too beaten up). That has always been true.

I'm trying to see the logic in how someone who is too beaten up to fight with you can then miraculously fight you lol but I'll stop overthinking that one. Could you guys please revert back to the old rival list? No one I know has had anything positive to say about it and no one has ever had any issues with the way the previous rival list was, so why tamper with it? My iph is 7m yet I'm still seeing empty hoods in my rival list so this myth that the new rival list is supposed to help us find like minded people is a load of nonsense.

As for the other events like LTQ and Raid Boss, Rjc summed it all up, I couldn't put it better myself, and I quote:

"Like most syndicates my syndicate needs Uzis. So I started thinking why play? There's an event that you want to play, but can't because you can't get any Uzis. You want to play during the LTQ. But you can't. The LTQ requires 1mil energy, but you only get 4k per day.
Now imagine you were playing call of duty and you are only given 2 bullets per day. Would you play a game like that?
This is what crime city has become. A game you want to play. But can't really play. So I ask. Why play."

RealTeflonDon
01-31-2014, 05:24 PM
That is actually something the engineers are looking into.

Are the engineers still investigating Boston's Finest T400 mishap?

Deadwater
01-31-2014, 05:32 PM
Ok seriously...I want my explosive football. I'm ready to tap and attack but all I see are the same people and they are all too beat up. Expand our rival lists now guys. Lets get this moving faster.

CJ54
01-31-2014, 05:40 PM
As previously requested, please continue to keep things constructive. (General reminder, that was not in response to Deadwater's post)

RealTeflonDon
01-31-2014, 05:43 PM
As previously requested, please continue to keep things constructive. (General reminder, that was not in response to Deadwater's post)

One month & 2 weeks... 2 banned email accounts.
. And 2 unanswered PM's to a moderator later...

How can I get this issue resolved?

raymondmccabemfc
01-31-2014, 05:47 PM
Cj constructive or not, nothing will get done about problems, same reocurring problems, when the battle was on the first battle my syn could fight, we posted a ticket as we are meant too, and still no reply, when we complain correctly you do nothing, so maybe if we all tell you how pathetic your attempts of running a game are, maybe you would listen, but evidently not...STANDARD PROCEDURE.

[INFAMOUS]
01-31-2014, 05:49 PM
The one and only thing that I want is a better RL and no "light" PvP event.

IDGAF what happens in .us this weekend.

Armalg-the-Good
01-31-2014, 05:51 PM
As previously requested, please continue to keep things constructive. (General reminder, that was not in response to Deadwater's post)

How about at least doubling the brick drop rate while this event is going on? I don't have a single attack on me since the event started.... Usually I would be attacked every 5 minutes or so while the event is happening... having people begging me to keep in touch as I give excellent points etc. I don't think many people are participating.

I love tacos
01-31-2014, 06:06 PM
As previously requested, please continue to keep things constructive. (General reminder, that was not in response to Deadwater's post) Hey guy, we are giving constructive criticism but you guys aren't listening. The rival list is redundant and is improperly produced. There's no one to hit. I understand you are quality control but can you take montecore's advice and expand the number of time's a rival can get hit. Thx

Dubstik
01-31-2014, 06:11 PM
I guess this will be a CrimeCity free weekend for me. No targets available in the pvp event, and the syndicate is out of uzis. Good job Gree...

CJ54
01-31-2014, 06:27 PM
Hey guy, we are giving constructive criticism but you guys aren't listening. The rival list is redundant and is improperly produced. There's no one to hit. I understand you are quality control but can you take montecore's advice and expand the number of time's a rival can get hit. Thx

That's not a slider that we can adjust immediately, is the thing there.

Electrify
01-31-2014, 06:34 PM
CJ Why dont you guys put up a poll when you guys plan to come out with something "new". It really would save a whole lot of complaints.

MaschedUp
01-31-2014, 06:37 PM
First thing you need to do is change the rivals list back to what it was.

There was nothing wrong with it. Just a few moaners on here about getting robbed.

So you basically changed one of the few things that was right about the game and completely ignored everything else we asked for.

There needs to be a huge advantage for stats at your level otherwise there is no point spending any money on this game.

5 levels up and down from your level is my suggestion for variety.

PLEASE FIX ASAP!

nazgul
01-31-2014, 07:07 PM
During PVP events, and preferably all the time, only display rivals that aren't in a cool down.

I would not like this at all. An unintended consequence of this would be that you would miss out on that guy who's been beat up, but his level 8 WSFG is robbable. So perhaps during PVP events, but certainly not all the time.

This would put a severe dent in robbing.

And FWIW, I love the new rivals list. Love it.

wawoftam
01-31-2014, 08:29 PM
CJ I'd like to make a couple of (hopefully) constructive suggestions but 1st a couple of general ones.

I hear a lot of whining about rivals list and the lack of targets. Admittedly it maybe to a lesser extent unless people are exaggerating, but when I used to do PVP events this was always a frustration but with a bit of time and effort worked around.
I hear a lot of complaining about the rewards. I am glad that there is an event many top players won't participate in. It may give some other players a chance to gain some strength on them. For far too long the gap has been widening. The bigger the gap the more moaning about winning streaks, players leaving syndicates to just better themselves. Everyone wants a free ride but isn't willing to work for it. There are many loyal teams out their than work their backsides off to finish top 150-500. Maybe, just maybe some of them may like this event.
As for complaints about the XP gains, you can't eat your cake and still have it. If you want to stay at a lower level then just don't participate like many don't or never did. I'm glad it's not a syndicate event as there is now a bigger choice on whether to participate or not. What may not suit some of you will suit others. This doesn't mean Gree has gotten it wrong.

Now on to my suggestions CJ,

A rivals list that groups players in a range of 5 levels. By that I mean 1-5, 6-10, 46-50, 131-135 etc. This would increase the spread of players available on a players rival list from the old days (only 2 level variance) but reduce the variance of levels that we have now where players strong for their level can have all sorts attacking them.

Bring back Uzis as drop items for events like this. I think they are seen as a bigger reward for some and may appease a few. Bringing them back just for an event may risk some glitches (I'm no IT expert) so having them back for attacks full-time might be the go. This will also give more teams a chance at completing the boss event. At present there are a lot of teams than cannot even raise enough uzis. Plenty of these teams would still struggling to complete the boss 100's due to lack of strength. Some would use gold to make the hits required on the top bosses but expecting them to have to buy vaults to obtain uzis on top of this is a bit much. I can't see how Gree would lose money on this as what they lose on the top teams having to buy uzis they would gain with lower strength teams buying gold to finish the lvl 100 bosses. Surely this would keep varying players all a bit happier.

Finally, and maybe a jealous gripe, but could syndicate swapping be blocked 24 hours prior to these raid boss events? I don't like seeing these small numbered syndicates both able to manipulate the system to gain battles streak to only then return to a larger group to gain boss rewards. You either benefit from one tactic or the other. The idea I though behind syndicates was to build teamwork and loyalty. This in turn increases game play participation and the hope of more of Gree's customers/users putting their hand in their pocket.

I hope this hasn't come across as negative. There are always different game play styles and without all of us the game wouldn't be here. We need to remember that not every event will suit us and that life will go on without it. There must be at least some players enjoying this one given the lack of targets :D.

archambeau
01-31-2014, 08:50 PM
In my opinion the lack of targets is not due to player participation. I haven't been attacked once all day. I also haven't been able to find a single rival in my rival list that hasn't been too beat up to fight since the event began. I hardly doubt that every rival on my list and I did try to blind attack right down the list and not one rival in 5-10 refreshes has not been too beat up to fight within the first few minutes of the event. Not to mention the fact that I also haven't found a building in a rivals hood that was ready that didn't say "can't rob" when I hit it. I have a feeling this is another malfunctioning event by gree!

HavingFun
01-31-2014, 08:51 PM
CJ I'd like to make a couple of (hopefully) constructive suggestions but 1st a couple of general ones.

I hear a lot of whining about rivals list and the lack of targets. Admittedly it maybe to a lesser extent unless people are exaggerating, but when I used to do PVP events this was always a frustration but with a bit of time and effort worked around.
I hear a lot of complaining about the rewards. I am glad that there is an event many top players won't participate in. It may give some other players a chance to gain some strength on them. For far too long the gap has been widening. The bigger the gap the more moaning about winning streaks, players leaving syndicates to just better themselves. Everyone wants a free ride but isn't willing to work for it. There are many loyal teams out their than work their backsides off to finish top 150-500. Maybe, just maybe some of them may like this event.
As for complaints about the XP gains, you can't eat your cake and still have it. If you want to stay at a lower level then just don't participate like many don't or never did. I'm glad it's not a syndicate event as there is now a bigger choice on whether to participate or not. What may not suit some of you will suit others. This doesn't mean Gree has gotten it wrong.

Now on to my suggestions CJ,

A rivals list that groups players in a range of 5 levels. By that I mean 1-5, 6-10, 46-50, 131-135 etc. This would increase the spread of players available on a players rival list from the old days (only 2 level variance) but reduce the variance of levels that we have now where players strong for their level can have all sorts attacking them.

Bring back Uzis as drop items for events like this. I think they are seen as a bigger reward for some and may appease a few. Bringing them back just for an event may risk some glitches (I'm no IT expert) so having them back for attacks full-time might be the go. This will also give more teams a chance at completing the boss event. At present there are a lot of teams than cannot even raise enough uzis. Plenty of these teams would still struggling to complete the boss 100's due to lack of strength. Some would use gold to make the hits required on the top bosses but expecting them to have to buy vaults to obtain uzis on top of this is a bit much. I can't see how Gree would lose money on this as what they lose on the top teams having to buy uzis they would gain with lower strength teams buying gold to finish the lvl 100 bosses. Surely this would keep varying players all a bit happier.

Finally, and maybe a jealous gripe, but could syndicate swapping be blocked 24 hours prior to these raid boss events? I don't like seeing these small numbered syndicates both able to manipulate the system to gain battles streak to only then return to a larger group to gain boss rewards. You either benefit from one tactic or the other. The idea I though behind syndicates was to build teamwork and loyalty. This in turn increases game play participation and the hope of more of Gree's customers/users putting their hand in their pocket.

I hope this hasn't come across as negative. There are always different game play styles and without all of us the game wouldn't be here. We need to remember that not every event will suit us and that life will go on without it. There must be at least some players enjoying this one given the lack of targets :D.
You won't get a reply but I'm pretty sure they're thinking TLDR and don't shop at Target anymore.

PatoO
01-31-2014, 10:00 PM
Cj54 the prizes for the involvement needed is terrible. And as you mentioned, the lack of a syndicate goal and a leaderboard makes me want to sit this one out.

Couldn't have said it better, the amount of xp you will gain from (well over 3000 fights) will certainly make me level up way more than what i want for a 114k/96k (about how much you gett from all prizes added up) with no mods, prizes are not worth the xp you gain, it could have been worth it if robs would count cause i can choose to rob only LTB which can give a nice amount of cash and and average of 2-3 5 xp a hit and with attacks i average well over 10xp a hit

Another way would be to make uzis drop from attacks/robs during the pvp events, i'm sure a lot of people would use gold to replenish their stamina and farm uzis

That was one way to save this kind of event, i didn't play the game on the old days so i can't really give my opinion about how it used to be...

Hope this was of some help

Montylee238
01-31-2014, 10:02 PM
Gree thank you so much for your disastrous take over of this game. You have managed to screw it up in every aspect possible. You team should be fired n then barred from being able to screw up future games. Congratulations on being total morons and idiots. You've taken an absolutely great game n made a total bust. Ever wonder why your stocks n player totals are plunging?




GoodGyrations

t12pm
01-31-2014, 10:15 PM
Well stuck on 43 fight wins should be on about 4 or 500 by now. Spent the last two hours refreshing rivals list and blind hitting every person on every refresh and not one too beat up except a few like 10 to 15 mil above me in stats great event gree now why would I even think about giving you anymore money, I have finished every pvp we have had except the very first because of the same issue as now. This game is a joke anymore think it is time to spend more time on ps4 pay 100 for hove earlobe you want to play the game and they don't mess with your money and make it useless after a few years

poo hands
01-31-2014, 10:24 PM
As previously requested, please continue to keep things constructive. (General reminder, that was not in response to Deadwater's post)

I'd love to hear the logic of shrinking my rivals list to the same 30 people and then releasing a pvp tournament that is neither a pvp or a tournament. Seems a bit obtuse.

RealTeflonDon
01-31-2014, 10:45 PM
I'd love to hear the logic of shrinking my rivals list to the same 30 people and then releasing a pvp tournament that is neither a pvp or a tournament. Seems a bit obtuse.

Not sure if its my drunken stupor but gohhtDAMNN I love this comment.

CrAzYdOg
02-01-2014, 02:19 AM
Okay guys, we're listening on this one, so I want to make sure that we're hearing the right things. If people can keep this tuned to constructive suggestions, that will help (there's a lot of "this stinks, bring back the old way" with no other details, in the last ten pages. That doesn't help.)Again, please keep itt constructive.
You kidding... you have/had constructive suggestions for the last 6 months and you never listened to one of it.... well, you listened it but you made the exact opposite.. people are sick to give you constructive feedbacks and this is what you get... you really whan suggestions? Ok:
1) uzis dropping rate is worse and worse every war cycle. In my syn we miss the last two goals because we miss uzis and it'siimpossible to find them everywhere: and do not say that 5 uzis every 4/5k energy is a good rate... well, we could buy them: 27 100 bosses left, that makes 2700 uzis... 1 uzis is 5 gold.. 13500 gold... 10 vaults to get enough uzis... plus the gold you need to kill a lvl100, because you're so smart that decide to increase the boss health by a good 25%... you kidding?????
2) pvp.. was probably one of the most funny part of the game but you killed even this part... impossible goals, no syn or ind goals, **** prizes.. RL obv doesn't help with the 60% of people already beaten and the other 40% way to strong to get a single win... you said this format was made to have a lower event for the super bowl i assume... bulli****... you never cared about think like that: you had big events running for Christmas;, nye etc etc... we'll have an event during valentines day... this last three are worldwide events... super bowl is American, why would you care about it?
3) ltq.. two ltqs ago I was able to finish beginner and normal for free, and with a level up, or two, do a couple elite levels... on the last one I couldn't finish normal, w.out beginner, for free... I was able to get 13/15... do you really think I use gold to finish it? Absolutely not... instead of using more gold to finish elite I haven't used a single gold to continue with normal... ones you'll realize that ltq should be: beginner for llp, normal and first level for everyone, finish elite for gold spender... but if you'll continue in this way in a couples ltq we'll not able to complete beginner for free...
There is probably, for sure more problems....

Jeremy Kyle
02-01-2014, 02:26 AM
this is what we need for pvp:

1. syndicate goals (similar to epic boss goals)

2. ind and syn leaderboard with tier prizes(this will bring in the gold)

3. decent prizes

4. rivals that are too beaten up already should not show on the list


you say you tweaked it down so theres not too many events but thats not what we asked for, we asked for just 1 event usining energy or stamina ect, i dont care if theres raid boss ltq and pvp because they use different resources.

Benzini
02-01-2014, 02:51 AM
Unbelievable with how much precession you screw up events!

djonny88
02-01-2014, 03:03 AM
Dont like it that you have to get to start over from 0 everytime

Heapsofblue
02-01-2014, 03:15 AM
I'd love to hear the logic of shrinking my rivals list to the same 30 people and then releasing a pvp tournament that is neither a pvp or a tournament. Seems a bit obtuse.


I guess this will be a CrimeCity free weekend for me. No targets available in the pvp event, and the syndicate is out of uzis. Good job Gree...

Well said.... Couldn't agree more..

GavP
02-01-2014, 03:31 AM
But at least the scratchers and defense buildings are getting revamped!

Don't hold your breath, expect nothing and you will not be disappointed.

bravo 6 vk
02-01-2014, 04:38 AM
You kidding... you have/had constructive suggestions for the last 6 months and you never listened to one of it.... well, you listened it but you made the exact opposite.. people are sick to give you constructive feedbacks and this is what you get... you really whan suggestions? Ok:
1) uzis dropping rate is worse and worse every war cycle. In my syn we miss the last two goals because we miss uzis and it'siimpossible to find them everywhere: and do not say that 5 uzis every 4/5k energy is a good rate... well, we could buy them: 27 100 bosses left, that makes 2700 uzis... 1 uzis is 5 gold.. 13500 gold... 10 vaults to get enough uzis... plus the gold you need to kill a lvl100, because you're so smart that decide to increase the boss health by a good 25%... you kidding?????
2) pvp.. was probably one of the most funny part of the game but you killed even this part... impossible goals, no syn or ind goals, **** prizes.. RL obv doesn't help with the 60% of people already beaten and the other 40% way to strong to get a single win... you said this format was made to have a lower event for the super bowl i assume... bulli****... you never cared about think like that: you had big events running for Christmas;, nye etc etc... we'll have an event during valentines day... this last three are worldwide events... super bowl is American, why would you care about it?
3) ltq.. two ltqs ago I was able to finish beginner and normal for free, and with a level up, or two, do a couple elite levels... on the last one I couldn't finish normal, w.out beginner, for free... I was able to get 13/15... do you really think I use gold to finish it? Absolutely not... instead of using more gold to finish elite I haven't used a single gold to continue with normal... ones you'll realize that ltq should be: beginner for llp, normal and first level for everyone, finish elite for gold spender... but if you'll continue in this way in a couples ltq we'll not able to complete beginner for free...
There is probably, for sure more problems....
+1. Extras.

therealbengie
02-01-2014, 05:11 AM
I like it.

therealbengie
02-01-2014, 05:27 AM
i'm level 250 so couldn't two hoots about xp, it takes a bit of looking but I find a rival I can beat 90% of the time every 3/4 hoods, I attack people anyway so now i'm gaining prizes for just going about my normal business.

hate to buck the trend but i'm enjoying it.

azgrunge
02-01-2014, 05:42 AM
,,,
A lot of the other frustration in here seems to be due to the recent rivals list change, if I am reading things correctly, which really deserves its own thread (as it impacts peoples' enjoyment of the event but is not the event itself).

Are there any other points that I am missing in regard to the event structure and what people would like to see? Again, please keep it constructive.

I'm not sure I agree this is light when you want me to find, and fight thousands..... but I digress

Plain and simple, it takes too long to find people to fight. The recent rivals change, as lots of posts have managed (in other threads as well) takes out the strategy of becoming an IPH powerhouse, or an attack powerhouse, or .... (insert the multiple strategies played). I used to never have many allies because that would just invite me to get clobbered. So, then I survived and was able to grow. But now that has backfired as 90% of players I'm matched with are bigger. There are all sorts of issues with the rivals change which I won't deal with here.

I will try to get through level 3 or 4 in the PvP but it takes too much time to find opponents due to rival change. I'm not a gold spender, but I would not even consider spending free gold on this event since I can't find rivals.....

That said, the players have been calling for PvP and you are trying to meet that so I think you should be complimented for that.

poo hands
02-01-2014, 05:55 AM
I'm not sure I agree this is light when you want me to find, and fight thousands..... but I digress

Plain and simple, it takes too long to find people to fight. The recent rivals change, as lots of posts have managed (in other threads as well) takes out the strategy of becoming an IPH powerhouse, or an attack powerhouse, or .... (insert the multiple strategies played). I used to never have many allies because that would just invite me to get clobbered. So, then I survived and was able to grow. But now that has backfired as 90% of players I'm matched with are bigger. There are all sorts of issues with the rivals change which I won't deal with here.

I will try to get through level 3 or 4 in the PvP but it takes too much time to find opponents due to rival change. I'm not a gold spender, but I would not even consider spending free gold on this event since I can't find rivals.....

That said, the players have been calling for PvP and you are trying to meet that so I think you should be complimented for that.
Stop being a *****......

Jeremy Kyle
02-01-2014, 05:56 AM
this is what we need for pvp:

1. syndicate goals (similar to epic boss goals)

2. ind and syn leaderboard with tier prizes(this will bring in the gold)

3. decent prizes

4. rivals that are too beaten up already should not show on the list


you say you tweaked it down so theres not too many events but thats not what we asked for, we asked for just 1 event usining energy or stamina ect, i dont care if theres raid boss ltq and pvp because they use different resources.

aron
02-01-2014, 06:13 AM
Montecore, I checked in about that (the "same small list of rivals no matter what). That is actually something the engineers are looking into.



When they go out later, it isn't an intentional exception, it's because something needed some last minute tweaking.

Yes it is.. Then why does LTQ's, Epic Boss and Raid Boss always start at midnight in Europe? The only event you launch when europe, asia and australia is not asleep is the main syn battle!! Please just launch all the events at the same time as battle weekend start.

You say you want feedback? Here's 27 pages of feedback written by the heart of cc players you should read CJ (In almost every page there is a complaint about the new rival list):
http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?81015-Feedback-thread

Now it just feels like you made that thread to avoid everything we want. This PVP is a flop!! Bring back the leaderboard, fix the rival list, bump up the tier prizes for syn ranking and we will be pleased.

Btw: 2/3's of the players in cc doesn't give a fux about the "game" goin on in US...

Green Drake
02-01-2014, 07:16 AM
So I assume they opened up the amount of time you can be hit? Been awake half hour and have been tagged over 100 times.

I am assuming that if you attack someone it resets the amount of times that you have been attacked. Wide open and fun.

navanodo
02-01-2014, 08:14 AM
What's going on - over 150 attacks in last hour - multiple rivals hitting at the same time

t12pm
02-01-2014, 08:39 AM
What's going on - over 150 attacks in last hour - multiple rivals hitting at the same time

No clue haven't been hit since yesterday but still can't find anyone that is not too beat up I should be sitting about halfway done yet I am still well under 100 wins

reticlover
02-01-2014, 08:47 AM
Those are some valid concerns for an event like this and in general. The "too beat up to fight" one is actually something that we hear every time we have had a pvp event (including the old ones), just because everyone is attacking everyone else. We raised the "beaten up" threshhold, which also caused its own series of complaints. The newsfeed spam similarly came up in past events, but some of the potential cures are worse than the disease.

simple fix. open the rival list to all players o fall levels. this would allow anyone to see everyone. ie, lvl 5 could see a lvl 250, and someone with 5k stats could see the stronget play in game. remove players from rival list that have been inactive in login for 1 month or more.

reticlover
02-01-2014, 08:56 AM
Hey guy, we are giving constructive criticism but you guys aren't listening. The rival list is redundant and is improperly produced. There's no one to hit. I understand you are quality control but can you take montecore's advice and expand the number of time's a rival can get hit. Thx


by doing this would just cause other problems. raising the limit of times you could be hit would make people mad cause they would loose more cash if they dont bank. gotta look at the ups and downs

Nighteg
02-01-2014, 09:01 AM
simple fix. open the rival list to all players o fall levels. this would allow anyone to see everyone. ie, lvl 5 could see a lvl 250, and someone with 5k stats could see the stronget play in game. remove players from rival list that have been inactive in login for 1 month or more.

All those creative advises may improve the situation, but the simplest and most correct thing to do is just bring back the old rivals list.

KING Mr932
02-01-2014, 09:06 AM
What's going on - over 150 attacks in last hour - multiple rivals hitting at the same time

Same here been only awake for 2hrs and 700 losses already, but I can only attack someone 20x. Wtf is going on Gree?

Green Drake
02-01-2014, 09:24 AM
Pretty sure if you attack someone it resets your status of being too beat up.

KING Mr932
02-01-2014, 09:29 AM
Pretty sure if you attack someone it resets your status of being too beat up.

Nope doesn't work that way.

Benjibbks5
02-01-2014, 09:37 AM
Am I the only one who don't get "too beat up"?, cos I don't seem to get the "2 hr break". I get attack all the time and my new feed gets filled to the max within 10 min...

KING Mr932
02-01-2014, 09:40 AM
Am I the only one who don't get "too beat up"?, cos I don't seem to get the "2 hr break". I get attack all the time and my new feed gets filled to the max within 10 min...

That's exactly what we're dicussing now.

Assault and Flattery
02-01-2014, 10:40 AM
We changed it a few months ago to where if you're actively engaging in PvP, you won't be too beat up. If you're asleep or something and get hit a bunch of times, you'll reach the "too beat up" thing and the regular cooldown period.

therealbengie
02-01-2014, 10:46 AM
sounds sensible to me, if you're active you're fair game.

Yancool
02-01-2014, 10:47 AM
Next time we will see GREE, will be after this event is over...... Nothing to see here, move along 😂😂😂😂

When playing CC we just have to accept that events will be faulty, as they are not being tested very well. Accept it or play another game, you will be a more happy person with less anger 😃

A solution for weekend events, and starting events so Europeans are not always left behind, could be to ask the developers to work earlier and in weekends, but I guess that's not a possibility, as this will mean better service 😳

Jeremy Kyle
02-01-2014, 10:47 AM
We changed it a few months ago to where if you're actively engaging in PvP, you won't be too beat up. If you're asleep or something and get hit a bunch of times, you'll reach the "too beat up" thing and the regular cooldown period.

what about leaderboard and syn goals? spice it up a bit guys and mods on syn and individual leaderboard rank (would bring you lots of money)

therealbengie
02-01-2014, 10:53 AM
what's wrong with having an event ready to go say Thursday night and then set it going at 9am Friday morning, USA gets all day to start, UK gets to start middle of the afternoon and the devs get all day to keep an eye out for issues.

t12pm
02-01-2014, 10:54 AM
what about leaderboard and syn goals? spice it up a bit guys and mods on syn and individual leaderboard rank (would bring you lots of money)

They won't take it down and change it now what would be the sense they would get more complaints

Jeremy Kyle
02-01-2014, 10:56 AM
They won't take it down and change it now what would be the sense they would get more complaints

i never said change it now, change if for next time

Green Drake
02-01-2014, 11:04 AM
We changed it a few months ago to where if you're actively engaging in PvP, you won't be too beat up. If you're asleep or something and get hit a bunch of times, you'll reach the "too beat up" thing and the regular cooldown period.
Really???? Find that impossible to believe since last night every single person on my rival list and news feed was too beat up. Today it is a circus. Everyone seems to be fair game.
Regardless, something changed overnight. It is fun. Everytime I log on my news feed is 30-40 post long. Nice.

therealbengie
02-01-2014, 11:23 AM
the part that annoys me is the win/loss ratio, I just lost 4 out of 6 attacks on a guy that has 10% lower stats than me, I can understand losing a couple attacks but to lose 60% against someone with lower stats is crazy.

KING Mr932
02-01-2014, 11:52 AM
We changed it a few months ago to where if you're actively engaging in PvP, you won't be too beat up. If you're asleep or something and get hit a bunch of times, you'll reach the "too beat up" thing and the regular cooldown period. t

This can't be true I attacked someone who attacked me and it read they're too beat up.

Gingeasian
02-01-2014, 11:54 AM
Thanks for the crap prizes and lack of a syn event. Gave me a reason to skip this event as well

reticlover
02-01-2014, 12:20 PM
A solution for weekend events, and starting events so Europeans are not always left behind, could be to ask the developers to work earlier and in weekends, but I guess that's not a possibility, as this will mean better service ��

so u want gree to start events for your time zone and make it to where those of us here in the states fall behind cause we are sleeping and your not. thats not fair

reticlover
02-01-2014, 12:22 PM
the part that annoys me is the win/loss ratio, I just lost 4 out of 6 attacks on a guy that has 10% lower stats than me, I can understand losing a couple attacks but to lose 60% against someone with lower stats is crazy.

only attack people that are at your battle attack if u want to win 99% of the time

therealbengie
02-01-2014, 01:02 PM
only attack people that are at your battle attack if u want to win 99% of the time

┐┐┐┐huh????

therealbengie
02-01-2014, 01:04 PM
do you mean raw attack?

Muj
02-01-2014, 01:06 PM
so u want gree to start events for your time zone and make it to where those of us here in the states fall behind cause we are sleeping and your not. thats not fair
If they made all events around 20 00 GMT, it's not too much to ask. Events start at 3am for me normally in my timezone

therealbengie
02-01-2014, 01:16 PM
If they made all events around 20 00 GMT, it's not too much to ask. Events start at 3am for me normally in my timezone

sounds fair to all round to me

Nighteg
02-01-2014, 01:37 PM
If they made all events around 20 00 GMT, it's not too much to ask. Events start at 3am for me normally in my timezone

20:00 GMT = 3PM EST.
Sounds more than fair both to Europe and the US.

reticlover
02-01-2014, 02:39 PM
┐┐┐┐huh????

battle attack is a certain percenage of attack that tells you who u can hit in fights/battle and win with out loosing 50-60% of the time

SemoreButtz
02-01-2014, 03:41 PM
Although I enjoyed the heck out of the old style pvp where attacks anf robs counted for points and there was leaderboads to compete against others ect. this one would be ok if I could find someone to attack. My rivals list is still very small and practically everyone on it is either dead or too strong...the rivals profile takes so long to pull up I have just started attacking in the hope of finding someone to attack(although I pay for it in retaliation). PVP used to be my favorite event since we could have fun competeting inter-syn and do well for a relatively small amount of gold. Please bring back the old school PVP.

Heapsofblue
02-01-2014, 03:47 PM
This PVP is a joke... My rival list has people who r millions above me or too beat up... Gree get ur act together..

Franky Di Lorenzo
02-01-2014, 04:25 PM
Nice...............

SammyTheBull
02-01-2014, 04:44 PM
Errr, no one I know is bothering with it. If you're going ahead with it, good luck to you.

Who wants the xp it takes too get those prizes? I am not doing it either.

t12pm
02-01-2014, 04:47 PM
i never said change it now, change if for next time

More than likely it will be back to normal next time change said they lightened it because of the Super Bowl, which I don't really understand they pushed more for the Holidays but lighten it for a football game not everyone watches the sport

Jeremy Kyle
02-01-2014, 04:50 PM
More than likely it will be back to normal next time change said they lightened it because of the Super Bowl, which I don't really understand they pushed more for the Holidays but lighten it for a football game not everyone watches the sport

They said they did it because we were complaining about stacking events, they didnt realise we were talking about stacking 4 ltqs at the same time meaning all needed energy, i would happily do epic boss raid boss ltq and pvp at the same time because it doesn't involve using the same resource.

Ltqs suck now too, energy requirement is way too high

Happyperson1
02-01-2014, 05:23 PM
CJ --- You are missing the two most important points:

1. This event might be OK if the Rivals List wasn't completely messed up. But when I see the same people no matter how many times I refresh, then there is no way for me to find people to attack. The weekend is just one long frustration. Don't have an event like this if it depends on a RIVALS LIST that is non-functioning.

2. This event might be OK if the prize was better...much better. Why should players spend their weekend trying to qualify when the prize's points are so low relative to other prizes being awarded these days? It should have a mod and be closer to six figures for players to care about it. Spend gold? No way...not for 50,000 points and no mod.

ploop
02-01-2014, 05:30 PM
The old PvP was the best. In the future please do it instead. I was extremely happy when i found out there was a PvP but this event sucks.

The Godfather
02-01-2014, 05:33 PM
Beginning at noon PST, take down your enemies one by one during Super Bowl Weekend and earn The Long Bomb. That's right! We are bringing back this classic PvP event so you can get your fight on while watching your favorite team.


http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/giiforums/Crime%20City/TheLongBombcopy_zpsed6f1447.png

Each goal comes with a prize, the more opponents you defeat, the nicer the gear.





http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/giiforums/Crime%20City/bloodbowl_zps834b9f19.png




Have a great time crushing your opponents!

These prizes suck and are not worth the extra xp or worth spending gold on. Sorry GREE (dy) your greed is ruining this game.

The Godfather
02-01-2014, 05:39 PM
""Each goal comes with a prize, the more opponents you defeat, the nicer the gear.""

Was that sarcasm A & F? You have seen the prize list right??

cooch
02-01-2014, 06:39 PM
Couple of things for members posting that look like they are fairly new to game:

1. PVP was the second most popular event for players, I think Raid/Epic Boss is now.

a. Wars: Most popular and makes Gree money.

b. Raid/Epic Boss: Second most popular and gree is obviously trying to get spending up.

c. PVP: Gree has admitted they have had problems with ability offer PVP since it first started over two years ago. However this is the worst in ability to even play the event. In part, I believe, to new RL code changes in hope of raising gold spend in PVP syn events.

As for prizes: They have always sucked so get over that. They know its a popular event and probably we'd play for no prizes. That's not going to change. If it does, be assured you will be spending gold, to get better prizes.

They don't make much money on PVP contests either. Why they don't care as much. Actions by Gree speak louder than words if they try to refute what I'm saying

So LTQs seem to be their preferred event because it makes money. Remember that a few players drive most of earning. So until the whales get tired of LTQs and move to the better events in spending well we are stuck.

Act Like You Know
02-01-2014, 06:40 PM
WORST PvP EVER

Flapjacks
02-01-2014, 08:28 PM
Was that sarcasm A & F? You have seen the prize list right??

People have complained about stat inflation, so maybe they're fixing that problem starting with this event?

Jeremy Kyle
02-02-2014, 07:24 AM
People have complained about stat inflation, so maybe they're fixing that problem starting with this event?


they cant stop stat inflation, the big players would stop spending money, they have no choice but to at least moderate it, and judging by the huge mods given on this raid boss they dont plan to do that.

therealbengie
02-02-2014, 07:34 AM
whats wrong with 115k/90k RAW stats increase??

you people are all idiots, you moan about stat increase and then moan that the items aren't good enough, you moan that LTB's are too expensive then moan at cheap ones. JHC MAKE YOUR MIND UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


btw still enjoying this pvp as i'm gaining stats for free.

HavingFun
02-02-2014, 07:37 AM
Last prize is ok, but can't find people to fight. How is 99% of CC players already beaten up at all hours of the day? This event could have been a lot more fun, instead two events currently running that are boring and unachievable by most players at no fault of our own. It's not about players choosing to complete it or not, Gree didn't even give us a proper chance. O yea, the third event, LTB, is also lame.

HavingFun
02-02-2014, 07:42 AM
whats wrong with 115k/90k RAW stats increase??

you people are all idiots, you moan about stat increase and then moan that the items aren't good enough, you moan that LTB's are too expensive then moan at cheap ones. JHC MAKE YOUR MIND UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


btw still enjoying this pvp as i'm gaining stats for free.
Congratulations, good for you. But you would be lying if you are saying you will finish without using any gold. So if you're doing the pvp for free you haven't gained any stats to be proud of lol.

KingOW
02-02-2014, 08:22 AM
http://www.memecreator.org/static/images/memes/2315050.jpg

Extras

Winnson
02-02-2014, 09:36 AM
When it started, I was like 'Awesome!' because I'm so much stronger than anyone I try to rob.

Now I see the same 20 names with stats better than mine.

Good luck checking stats when you see a new name, because it takes so long the app times out, and by that time if they were weaker than you, they're too beat up anyway.

Turns out you don't win anything special either.

Maybe if there were a button to not participate, I could just rob the weaklings I always got before this event?

Seriously, what happened? Why did my rivals list suddenly turn into 20 guys around my level that are stronger than me?

Word, the PvP in this game is awesome!

therealbengie
02-02-2014, 09:37 AM
When it started, I was like 'Awesome!' because I'm so much stronger than anyone I try to rob.

Now I see the same 20 names with stats better than mine.

Good luck checking stats when you see a new name, because it takes so long the app times out, and by that time if they were weaker than you, they're too beat up anyway.

Turns out you don't win anything special either.

Maybe if there were a button to not participate, I could just rob the weaklings I always got before this event?

Seriously, what happened? Why did my rivals list suddenly turn into 20 guys around my level that are stronger than me?

Word, the PvP in this game is awesome!

I take it you're on android?

therealbengie
02-02-2014, 09:39 AM
Congratulations, good for you. But you would be lying if you are saying you will finish without using any gold. So if you're doing the pvp for free you haven't gained any stats to be proud of lol.

i'm going to take it as far as I can for free, not interested in spending gold on this game really now, very very rare that I do. all stat gains are an improvement and blindness to this means you are falling behind others.

Winnson
02-02-2014, 09:50 AM
I take it you're on android?

Yes. Are you really real bengie? I want to believe!
Does it just time out when you check rival stats on an android?


I also want to give kudos to that CJ154 developer dude for saying he's listening. Up to page 13 he's been holding it down like a trooper. Props for that and therefore I hope his (or her) favorite team wins the superbowl.

I'm only on page 13 though and still reading, so that view could totally change before kickoff.

Just saying, this PvP event sucks pretty bad bros.

therealbengie
02-02-2014, 09:55 AM
I think i'm only real because I and a handful others still believe, I don't get that problem on any of my 3 accounts(iPhone 5, iPhone 4s and bluestacks(but that crashes all the time because bluestacks sucks)).

Winnson
02-02-2014, 10:08 AM
At least now I know the people I am trying to PvP for this event, I should be trying to rob.

So that's something.

saggs
02-02-2014, 11:56 AM
I'm a level 250, been there a while. I know most people that I have on my rivals list. I know who to hit and who to stay far away from even thinking about hitting. The PVP starts and I get a list of 25 people that I have never heard of before. I try to fight any of them Let's see 20 of them are too beat up and the other 5 are 20 million stronger than me. Ok, let's refresh and try this again. Wait it's the same people. Refresh again, ohhh lookie new people..... no wait new order same people.

This PVP is the worst idea Gree has come up with.

Why didn't you leave it to robberies and fights. That way we have a better chance of actually finding something to hit?

I am getting more and more frustrated by Gree not listening to the CUSTOMER!!!!!!!!!

MoarKrabs
02-02-2014, 12:00 PM
I am getting more and more frustrated by Gree not listening to the CUSTOMER!!!!!!!!!

They never did. And even more so, this pvp event is ruined even further by the loading times and lag that shouldn't even be present in the first place.

Nighteg
02-02-2014, 12:03 PM
I am getting more and more frustrated by Gree not listening to the CUSTOMER!!!!!!!!!

Honestly, it feels like they're listening and doing the exact opposite.
Most people hated the new rivals list even when it was still tested. So instead of scraping it, they forced it on everyone.
People have been asking for months for an expensive ltb, so they give us the crappiest possible.
I was really excited about this pvp, but they've managed to screw this up too.

t12pm
02-02-2014, 02:00 PM
Honestly, it feels like they're listening and doing the exact opposite.
Most people hated the new rivals list even when it was still tested. So instead of scraping it, they forced it on everyone.
People have been asking for months for an expensive ltb, so they give us the crappiest possible.
I was really excited about this pvp, but they've managed to screw this up too.

+1 my thoughts also seems like they are out to scrap the game

Gingeasian
02-02-2014, 02:06 PM
The new rivals list would have been perfect for the typical PVP tournament with syndicate rankings. Would allow you to easily get max points and not have to scavenger for decent points as punishment for being in the top percentile of your level. But as that would have to been a very fun event it did not happen. But with this new change and almost everyone being around the same stats level it is very annoying to lose every other fight against someone that it 20%+ weaker than you. And what idiot in their right mind is going to use gold to lose fights. Next time you do a PVP Gree make it the normal syn tournament.

Mackie Messer
02-02-2014, 02:43 PM
This is a laughable event.
I wonder if all of CC is just an experiment to see how much they can rub the customer base the wrong way before the majority rage quits.

steamboatwilly
02-02-2014, 02:48 PM
I am sick of seeing the same 30 names over and over in this event

The Godfather
02-02-2014, 04:57 PM
btw still enjoying this pvp as i'm gaining stats for free.

Yeah while gaining a bucket load of xp and getting sucky stat increase prizes.

The Godfather
02-02-2014, 05:04 PM
People have complained about stat inflation, so maybe they're fixing that problem starting with this event?

Possibly, people should stop whining about the stat increases and start whining about things that matter, like the lack of uzis, thee stupid increase of xp required to take down a boss, the cost of uzis, 1 Uzi for 5 gold, when on modern war you get 10 Uzi's for 10 gold, GREE is supposed to bed a business they should lower gold costs and match the cc cost of uzis to the same as modern wasr, they would make a lot more money as a lot more people would spend money, if there Uzi's were 10 for 10 gold my syn would have bought a couple of thousand, as it is we refuse point blank to spend 5 gold on 1 single Uzi.

Wow I went a bit of track to what you said there lol

djonny88
02-02-2014, 05:47 PM
Now it's annoying I got too much lagg to play it. Am on 8/14 now but no decent price yet

-Batman-
02-02-2014, 06:50 PM
What a ****ing joke this new rivals list is. This be the first pvp event that no gold will be spend.

TheTanker
02-02-2014, 10:15 PM
This party sucks.

We were so pumped for the old PVP format.

Love listening to you.

cooch
02-02-2014, 10:44 PM
The new rivals list would have been perfect for the typical PVP tournament with syndicate rankings. Would allow you to easily get max points and not have to scavenger for decent points as punishment for being in the top percentile of your level. But as that would have to been a very fun event it did not happen. But with this new change and almost everyone being around the same stats level it is very annoying to lose every other fight against someone that it 20%+ weaker than you. And what idiot in their right mind is going to use gold to lose fights. Next time you do a PVP Gree make it the normal syn tournament.

Ging: they want more gold spend on PVP. CJ hinted at this. More suprises like in Wars which translated to more gold spent to get same points.

In this case it's a loss vs more/less points. Will peeps spend more gold than they used to in a PVP/Syn PVP to get same result? This will be interesting.

Benjibbks5
02-03-2014, 02:21 AM
The new rivals list would have been perfect for the typical PVP tournament with syndicate rankings. Would allow you to easily get max points and not have to scavenger for decent points as punishment for being in the top percentile of your level. But as that would have to been a very fun event it did not happen. But with this new change and almost everyone being around the same stats level it is very annoying to lose every other fight against someone that it 20%+ weaker than you. And what idiot in their right mind is going to use gold to lose fights. Next time you do a PVP Gree make it the normal syn tournament.

Well said. Players use gold so that they can enjoy the game more. Winning is enjoyable and losing is not. Nobody will want to use gold to lost fights half the time.

azgrunge
02-03-2014, 06:29 AM
I barely get hit anymore, maybe once per day. I don't think many people are doing the PvP due to the concerns we have mentioned the last 20+ pages. I did through level 3 but it took so long to find people to attack....Is anyone going beyond level 5?

Zyklones
02-03-2014, 06:36 AM
I stopped at level 10.

Zippy69
02-03-2014, 06:42 AM
4 accounts: 3 stopped at level 5 - saw no point in going any further...

4th account is old smart phone & it's a nightmare! just completed 4 and 5 is possible in time left but can I be bothered...

Bobar
02-03-2014, 09:31 AM
i hope you listen to your customers. please don┤t implement this in modern war and repeat your mistake

Green Drake
02-03-2014, 10:34 AM
I finished but honestly my rival list was wide open Saturday. Everyone was a viable target and I was hit a ton. Not sure what happened yesterday but something clearly changed as I struggled to find targets.

Deadwater
02-03-2014, 02:15 PM
I finished but honestly my rival list was wide open Saturday. Everyone was a viable target and I was hit a ton. Not sure what happened yesterday but something clearly changed as I struggled to find targets.

Same, glad gree fixed the problem in time to finish the event.

Chris Boa
02-04-2014, 08:05 AM
They said they did it because we were complaining about stacking events, they didnt realise we were talking about stacking 4 ltqs at the same time meaning all needed energy, i would happily do epic boss raid boss ltq and pvp at the same time because it doesn't involve using the same resource.

Ltqs suck now too, energy requirement is way too high

Agree with this, ltq's are painful now and some acknowledgment of when/if/why kindle are supported would be nice to. Raid boss just feels like a rip of to.

{SnT}B1GHUNT
02-04-2014, 09:38 PM
why is not a syndicate PvP Boring