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Curtis Snow
01-31-2014, 10:51 PM
+1 upgrade building mod needs to be brought back as a moderate gold prize, and by moderate I mean 20$ in gold.

These past 4-5 ltbs (excluding the slay belles) have all royally sucked for building iph and its making players simply upgrade them for the items they get while severely cutting the opportunity to raise iph.

+1 upgrade would eliminate the choice of whether you should build iph or upgrade the new crappy ltb for the prizes.

sister morphine
01-31-2014, 10:57 PM
If I was a cynic, maybe I'd think the purpose is to persuade iph builders to run one building or the other up using gold finish. ;)

Zendfrim
01-31-2014, 11:16 PM
I like your thought here Curtis, but you'd be wishing in one hand and deficating in the other and seeing which fills first. This company has dictated that they are slow, incompetent, dim witted, lazy, and unwilling to comply with even the simplest of demands from the folks that pay their ridiculous salaries and for their all expense paid vacations to tropical islands.

one man gang
02-01-2014, 03:19 AM
Sorry snow, can't see them giving out a game changing prize so cheap....

But then again remember the PVP where they gave the last prize first.

KingOW
02-01-2014, 03:40 AM
I'd really like this too. Make it a mod with the elite prize in next RB.

therealbengie
02-01-2014, 03:51 AM
but if we could upgrade more there would be more upgraded buildings so more robbing going on, also less unhappy customers.

Sleazy_P_Martini
02-01-2014, 04:21 AM
ive been waiting for this to become available. first it was released as a leaderboard event for collect 20 for the top prize. then it was released as a #1 war prize one war. The FC folks snatched it up quite easily.

FC already had amazing IPH. but this mod has turned their hoods in to absolute monsters. Theyve had their fun. now let the 99% have a crack at it. Call it, a late Christmas present. a we'll call it even for all the screw ups. i'd be happy.

I'm actually happy now, but I'm greedy.

reticlover
02-01-2014, 05:44 AM
this would be great to have, but wont happen simply cause FC/TAOW is **** employees and gets **** gold

Zendfrim
02-01-2014, 07:22 AM
ive been waiting for this to become available. first it was released as a leaderboard event for collect 20 for the top prize. then it was released as a #1 war prize one war. The FC folks snatched it up quite easily.

FC already had amazing IPH. but this mod has turned their hoods in to absolute monsters. Theyve had their fun. now let the 99% have a crack at it. Call it, a late Christmas present. a we'll call it even for all the screw ups. i'd be happy.

I'm actually happy now, but I'm greedy. so are they.

ciontis
02-01-2014, 09:12 AM
I want! I want! I want! Our society is screwed.

Curtis Snow
02-04-2014, 01:11 PM
add it to this case event

My2cents
02-04-2014, 01:29 PM
I'd hate to spend gold after the recent melees, but I'd spend more than $20 for this.

Emperor886
02-04-2014, 01:38 PM
$20 is way too cheap. It's easily worth a vault. Probably 2k gold is the sweet spot.

sister morphine
02-04-2014, 02:55 PM
I'd really like this too. Make it a mod with the elite prize in next RB.
No way. It should be a modifier available to more than just the few. My accounts in KA can upgrade something like 6 buildings simultaneously.

One of those was from a unit originally from a box event, but later recycled during an LTQ (which is where I got it) - and not as the top prize either. The rest came from tier prizes in wars if I recall ( and once again, not just for the elite)

sister morphine
02-04-2014, 02:59 PM
$20 is way too cheap. It's easily worth a vault. Probably 2k gold is the sweet spot.
Funny how the big spenders always want to keep everything for themselves. This game gets more like real life every passing day.

one man gang
02-04-2014, 03:32 PM
this would be great to have, but wont happen simply cause FC/TAOW is **** employees and gets **** gold

LOL.. Have a sook

Lab5394
02-04-2014, 03:52 PM
$20 is way too cheap. It's easily worth a vault. Probably 2k gold is the sweet spot.
Not everybody has hundreds of dollars to waste on a game some of us have better things to spend money on. If they do release it it should be a syndicate bonus that unlocks after you max out every other bonus or something along the lines of that. That way everyone has a chance not just the big gold spenders.

Danny Clear
02-04-2014, 04:07 PM
Yea gree puts +1 building upgrade on a pedestal like its the best bonus ever made, I always say android players were able to upgrade every building they owned at the same time for over a year n gree makes a big deal about 2. I personally dont care at this point iph doesn't matter all ltbs need gold 2 finish any way, and theres no other use for in game cash.

GucciMane
02-04-2014, 05:02 PM
+1 upgrade building mod needs to be brought back as a moderate gold prize, and by moderate I mean 20$ in gold.

These past 4-5 ltbs (excluding the slay belles) have all royally sucked for building iph and its making players simply upgrade them for the items they get while severely cutting the opportunity to raise iph.

+1 upgrade would eliminate the choice of whether you should build iph or upgrade the new crappy ltb for the prizes.

+1 upgrade building mod needs to be brought back as a moderate gold prize, and by moderate I mean 20$ in gold.


and by moderate I mean 20$ in gold.

and by moderate I mean 20$ in gold.

by moderate I mean 20$ in gold.


"Moderate" gold spend has never been 240 gold.

Try tripling those curtis.




It seems fair between a vault - two vaults.



Funny how the big spenders always want to keep everything for themselves. This game gets more like real life every passing day.

I'm not a big spender at all but 1500 gold seems reasonable for a mod that great.

Emperor886
02-04-2014, 05:27 PM
Funny how the big spenders always want to keep everything for themselves. This game gets more like real life every passing day.

If everyone could get it for cheap it wouldn't be special at all. Just like a Lamborghini...if everyone had one they wouldn't be all that awesome.

And I am nowhere near a big spender. 2k gold honestly, relatively, is not a lot by any means, considering what you get from it. I suppose you can say that is based on perspective, but really it's about supply and demand. Gree has control over all of the supply and all but 60(61?) people in the game have demand for it.

OmgMileyCyrus
02-04-2014, 11:14 PM
Funny how the big spenders always want to keep everything for themselves. This game gets more like real life every passing day.economics fail. Everyone wants to keep what they earned you leech. Stop wanting others money and earn your own. Not everyone with a lot won the lottery. Move to North Korea they have a great economic plan. It's called socialism.

sister morphine
02-04-2014, 11:21 PM
If everyone could get it for cheap it wouldn't be special at all. Just like a Lamborghini...if everyone had one they wouldn't be all that awesome.
But they're not. It's just a car. You go from A to B in it and back again. A bicycle will do that too. ;) People with stupid amounts of money buy "supercars" as a penis extension; really there's no more to it than that. I don't see how you can compare that with the utility of being able to upgrade two buildings at once - even more so if it was one cash and one defence building as I've called for previously.


And I am nowhere near a big spender. 2k gold honestly, relatively, is not a lot by any means, considering what you get from it. I suppose you can say that is based on perspective, but really it's about supply and demand. Gree has control over all of the supply and all but 60(61?) people in the game have demand for it.
I guess that depends on how much monthly disposable income you have. I'm not a wealthy person, and 105 (the cost of buying 2150 gold in the UK) is a large proportion of mine. The cost of playing this game has been steadily ramped up over the last year. Gree's main income used to come from "complete gacha" games in Japan, but since the government there made those illegal they've switched to sucking players of these former Funzio games dry.

sister morphine
02-04-2014, 11:30 PM
economics fail. Everyone wants to keep what they earned you leech. Stop wanting others money and earn your own. Not everyone with a lot won the lottery. Move to North Korea they have a great economic plan. It's called socialism.
Idiot. Why don't you try examining the disparity of incomes between the biggest earners and those on the average over the past 10-15 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States

montecore
02-05-2014, 12:02 AM
economics fail. Everyone wants to keep what they earned you leech. Stop wanting others money and earn your own. Not everyone with a lot won the lottery. Move to North Korea they have a great economic plan. It's called socialism.

How dare you!

OmgMileyCyrus
02-05-2014, 12:03 AM
Idiot. Why don't you try examining the disparity of incomes between the biggest earners and those on the average over the past 10-15 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States

What's your point? How bout you give me half your paycheck every week before you ask for someone else's. Take 1 college level economics class. When you take from those with more and give to those with less you soon will have no economy.

montecore
02-05-2014, 12:23 AM
What's your point? How bout you give me half your paycheck every week before you ask for someone else's. Take 1 college level economics class. When you take from those with more and give to those with less you soon will have no economy.

While I am a capitalist and believer in the free market, your last statement is utterly laughable. Virtually every modern economy has some basis in wealth redistribution. I'm starting to think you're nothing but a troll, bent on ruining this forum and starting arguments for your own juvenile amusement.

sister morphine
02-05-2014, 03:08 AM
What's your point? How bout you give me half your paycheck every week before you ask for someone else's. Take 1 college level economics class. When you take from those with more and give to those with less you soon will have no economy.
I'm at a loss to understand whatever point you're trying to make. Presumably you think it's ok to take from those with less (ask anybody on an average income whether they have the same buying power as before the banking collapse of 2008) and give to the already rich, who are the only ones whose income has gone up in real terms against inflation in the last five years?

I'm not asking for anybody's paycheck, just so we get things clear. Being rich doesn't have any attraction for me; I'd just like enough money so I don't have to worry about money. That's probably true for the huge majority.

This has taken the thread away from the game though; do you deny that this game has become more expensive to play for the same rewards over the last 12 months?

one man gang
02-05-2014, 03:12 AM
I'm back from reading about socialisim, communism and left/right wing politics. I now feel like I can comment in this thread.

No, you shouldn't get the awesome pixeled item you are after on the cheap!

sister morphine
02-05-2014, 03:50 AM
I'm back from reading about socialisim, communism and left/right wing politics. I now feel like I can comment in this thread.

No, you shouldn't get the awesome pixeled item you are after on the cheap!
I'd agree not "on the cheap", but equally not some exclusivity for the elite. As said previously I can upgrade 8 buildings at once on one KA account and about 6 on the other. I don't recall where all the units came from but one of them was a war prize, and if I remember correctly which it was the stats suggest it was top 300 (which is around the equivalent of top 400 in crime city).

Another good route would be as a syndicate bonus: perhaps level 1 could give 10% off upgrade times, level 2 would allow 2 simultaneous builds, level 3 20% off cost, level 4 would allow 2 simultaneous upgrades and level 5, 3 simultaneous upgrades.

Sleazy_P_Martini
02-05-2014, 04:03 AM
here's a thought, and just a thought:

we've experienced stat inflation for some months now. Most generally agree (not me) that its a bad thing. Well if this modifier is introduced, and is widely available to all, wouldn't the stat inflation problem overflow to the IPH department?

I cite the FC folks. They had big iph to begin with. But after winning that modifier from war, their iph blew up. Is that what we want? an increase across the board? Similar to sweet Vengeance and Tilda's Blade?

Short answer for me, yes.

HTCBC
02-05-2014, 05:34 AM
Sleazy ( hope you dont mind me calling you that) We need it. We want it just give it to us for free as a thank you.

We should be able to build and upgrade two items as standard. but let those who can build or upgrade three.

Its win win

http://www.orgsites.com/pa/pack63drumsstjohnspa/animated-popcorn.gif

Sammo the Kid
02-05-2014, 06:18 AM
http://i.imgur.com/8oIkXXQ.jpg

Zendfrim
02-05-2014, 08:29 AM
No way. It should be a modifier available to more than just the few. My accounts in KA can upgrade something like 6 buildings simultaneously.

One of those was from a unit originally from a box event, but later recycled during an LTQ (which is where I got it) - and not as the top prize either. The rest came from tier prizes in wars if I recall ( and once again, not just for the elite)6 BUILDINGS.... SIMULTANEOUSLY?! (Puts phone down and walks away)


...


Ok. That is beyond re-*******-diculous. We can't even get the simplest of requests put through and these other games get every single suggestion we put forth on this forum for THIS GAME. Gree if you want to retire this game then turn off the frickin server. Absolutely ridiculous. I have never hated something so much. Your flagship product, the one that deserves by far the most effort and attention, and you're just handing everything out like candy in other games that are just a copy of this one.

I give up.

sister morphine
02-05-2014, 09:53 AM
6 BUILDINGS.... SIMULTANEOUSLY?! (Puts phone down and walks away)


...


Ok. That is beyond re-*******-diculous. We can't even get the simplest of requests put through and these other games get every single suggestion we put forth on this forum for THIS GAME. Gree if you want to retire this game then turn off the frickin server. Absolutely ridiculous. I have never hated something so much. Your flagship product, the one that deserves by far the most effort and attention, and you're just handing everything out like candy in other games that are just a copy of this one.

I give up.
Lol, the economy side of KA is woefully underdeveloped too. Just to make your joy unconfined. :D

OmgMileyCyrus
02-05-2014, 09:57 AM
While I am a capitalist and believer in the free market, your last statement is utterly laughable. Virtually every modern economy has some basis in wealth redistribution. I'm starting to think you're nothing but a troll, bent on ruining this forum and starting arguments for your own juvenile amusement.

You are correct, most economies do have some basis is wealth redistribution, that doesn't make it correct or viable long term. Anytime you have a progressive income tax system that happens. My suggestion is to do what the already forward thinking (and now rich) economies are doing and get away from this broken system of wealth redistribution and go with a consumption based tax system or at the very least a flat tax. How's that troll for ya? Next time ask a question before you say someone is just a troll because they disagree with you.

OmgMileyCyrus
02-05-2014, 10:01 AM
I'm at a loss to understand whatever point you're trying to make. Presumably you think it's ok to take from those with less (ask anybody on an average income whether they have the same buying power as before the banking collapse of 2008) and give to the already rich, who are the only ones whose income has gone up in real terms against inflation in the last five years?

I'm not asking for anybody's paycheck, just so we get things clear. Being rich doesn't have any attraction for me; I'd just like enough money so I don't have to worry about money. That's probably true for the huge majority.

This has taken the thread away from the game though; do you deny that this game has become more expensive to play for the same rewards over the last 12 months?

Lol you are so dishonest I will no longer address you. When you start "presuming" what I like without asking, that makes you intellectually dishonest and I want no part of it. At least the big cat has a brain to go with his insults

Zendfrim
02-05-2014, 11:15 AM
Look guys, the troll is calling someone "intellectually dishonest." When will the hypocrisy end...

therealbengie
02-05-2014, 11:39 AM
But they're not. It's just a car. You go from A to B in it and back again. A bicycle will do that too. ;) People with stupid amounts of money buy "supercars" as a penis extension; really there's no more to it than that. I don't see how you can compare that with the utility of being able to upgrade two buildings at once - even more so if it was one cash and one defence building as I've called for previously.


such a typical, boring, small minded female view. I take it you dress in nothing but undyed robes, wear sandles, cut your own hair with clippers, eat nothing but fruit and porridge, drink nothing but tap water and walk every where and when not working you are either doing chores or working in the community as heaven forbid you do/use/wear/eat anything for your won enjoyment. Does it occur to you at all that maybe, just maybe, some people buy and drive expensive cars be them German/Italian/Japanese because they enjoy them? whether they enjoy the smell, feel, look or whatever. This stupid small minded attitude really winds me up, especially from women as the majority of women spend so much time, effort and money on vanity be it coloured hair, make up, clothes, shoes, dieting, jewellery etc

montecore
02-05-2014, 11:45 AM
You are correct, most economies do have some basis is wealth redistribution, that doesn't make it correct or viable long term. Anytime you have a progressive income tax system that happens. My suggestion is to do what the already forward thinking (and now rich) economies are doing and get away from this broken system of wealth redistribution and go with a consumption based tax system or at the very least a flat tax. How's that troll for ya? Next time ask a question before you say someone is just a troll because they disagree with you.

Now I know, without question, that you are a troll.

montecore
02-05-2014, 11:47 AM
such a typical, boring, small minded female view. I take it you dress in nothing but undyed robes, wear sandles, cut your own hair with clippers, eat nothing but fruit and porridge, drink nothing but tap water and walk every where and when not working you are either doing chores or working in the community as heaven forbid you do/use/wear/eat anything for your won enjoyment. Does it occur to you at all that maybe, just maybe, some people buy and drive expensive cars be them German/Italian/Japanese because they enjoy them? whether they enjoy the smell, feel, look or whatever. This stupid small minded attitude really winds me up, especially from women as the majority of women spend so much time, effort and money on vanity be it coloured hair, make up, clothes, shoes, dieting, jewellery etc

So you hate women who plead for a simple life without the trappings of luxury, social posturing, and greed, but you also hate women who spend money/effort/time on appearance?

Nighteg
02-05-2014, 11:55 AM
What's your point? How bout you give me half your paycheck every week before you ask for someone else's. Take 1 college level economics class. When you take from those with more and give to those with less you soon will have no economy.

That is probably the stupidest thing i've ever read on this forum.

OmgMileyCyrus
02-05-2014, 02:53 PM
Now I know, without question, that you are a troll.so you give up an argument based on facts and resort to name calling. Cool story bro, I no longer take you seriously.

OmgMileyCyrus
02-05-2014, 02:54 PM
That is probably the stupidest thing i've ever read on this forum.*most stupid or *least intelligent.

Thanks bro it's obvious you don't understand my post. But at least your well thought out reply was good.

sister morphine
02-05-2014, 03:28 PM
such a typical, boring, small minded female view. I take it you dress in nothing but undyed robes, wear sandles, cut your own hair with clippers, eat nothing but fruit and porridge, drink nothing but tap water and walk every where and when not working you are either doing chores or working in the community as heaven forbid you do/use/wear/eat anything for your won enjoyment. Does it occur to you at all that maybe, just maybe, some people buy and drive expensive cars be them German/Italian/Japanese because they enjoy them? whether they enjoy the smell, feel, look or whatever. This stupid small minded attitude really winds me up, especially from women as the majority of women spend so much time, effort and money on vanity be it coloured hair, make up, clothes, shoes, dieting, jewellery etc
Such a ridiculous spiel. Do try to distinguish between the merely expensive and so-called supercars. How much is the most expensive BMW for example; does it cost as much as any Lamborghini? Just out of morbid curiosity I did have a look at the prices on those - they go from $181,000 to over half a million!

I could use the same argument for watches; people buy Rolexes and the like to show off. It's common knowledge that they don't keep as good time as something a fraction of the price. Each to their own, but just be honest about why you make your choices.

Guisseppe17
02-05-2014, 05:01 PM
*most stupid or *least intelligent.

Thanks bro it's obvious you don't understand my post. But at least your well thought out reply was good.
Wtf is this? I get banned for 5 days and this troll steals my job? Get lost!

Curtis Snow
02-05-2014, 05:43 PM
"Moderate" gold spend has never been 240 gold.

Try tripling those curtis.




It seems fair between a vault - two vaults.




I'm not a big spender at all but 1500 gold seems reasonable for a mod that great.

I never said a moderate gold spenders item did i? i said a moderate gold item, and a moderate gold item is between 200-500 gold in my opinion.

TMI
02-05-2014, 08:08 PM
This thread has been an interesting read.
My economic two cents:

1. End central banks.

2. End fiat currency and bring back the gold standard.


Also, if GREE was to bring item like this out, it would probably be at LEAST 5k gold, due to the permanency (is that a word?) of such a game changing item.

I think I'll start a poll :)

Guisseppe17
02-05-2014, 11:17 PM
This thread has been an interesting read.
My economic two cents:

1. End central banks.

2. End fiat currency and bring back the gold standard.


Also, if GREE was to bring item like this out, it would probably be at LEAST 5k gold, due to the permanency (is that a word?) of such a game changing item.

I think I'll start a poll :)
A poll about what, how much gold it would cost or if permanency is a word?

LtotheG
02-06-2014, 02:52 AM
If an extra upgrade wil be a prize it should be a reward for high active players, not depending on luck or goldspending.
so i like the idea for syndicate upgrades. 1. -2%, 2. -3% 3. -5% 4. 10% and 5. +1 upgrade. (something like this).
they could also think of an new event just for this reward.
Or put it on top of an LTB lvl 10 or an random "always available" building lvl 10.

The best why to please people with this reward is make i hard to compleet but available for every one.

Maybe do an event a couple of times and only make is possible to hold the reward once? that why people who later started the game can keep up with higher players. (Only a surgestion if there goal is to make the game more attractive to new players) .

Sleazy_P_Martini
02-06-2014, 03:10 AM
i know why gree won't put out that modifier for all, cuz it would put a proper sized wrinkle in all the hood planner spreadsheets that I could never get to work in the first place.

I mean yeah, like i wanna sit there and input ever single building i have in to one of these things.






edit: this isn't really a reason, just me taking a poke at all the lame hood planners out there.

sister morphine
02-06-2014, 03:13 AM
Another option would be to bring it in as a goals reward, like for achieving such and such in the game you got a reward, how about for getting a level of income got a reward of a simultaneous upgrade. Maybe $10 mil/hr

Sleazy_P_Martini
02-06-2014, 03:20 AM
Another option would be to bring it in as a goals reward, like for achieving such and such in the game you got a reward, how about for getting a level of income got a reward of a simultaneous upgrade. Maybe $10 mil/hrooooh, i gots a weird one. how about awarding it for checking in to cc 100 days in a row?

one man gang
02-06-2014, 03:21 AM
ooooh, i gots a weird one. how about awarding it for checking in to cc 100 days in a row?

To easy? Lol