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discprodigy
04-25-2014, 12:53 PM
As a level 200 I'm used to sh!t cps, but it's now gotten worse. I went from getting 350s every so often on other 200s, now I haven't broken 300 cps all war thus far.

Why change the algorithm? Let alone, change it to further penalize level 200 folks. Ridiculous Gree..

Maybe you should invest in a programmer that can provide a change log for your updates, if you can call them updates...

discprodigy
04-25-2014, 12:54 PM
Hell I hit one other 200 for a whopping 97 cps just now, seriously?

NinjaHonu
04-25-2014, 01:06 PM
97 cp..... LMAO what a joke! That's terrible. hahaha. If i was level 200 i would just quit already. no point. Wait... don't quit. I need high level targets :p

The red Baron
04-25-2014, 01:08 PM
GREE works hard to force lv 200 to leave the game. bad cp for me too

_Mas_
04-25-2014, 01:08 PM
I am getting less than 200's

Jcreek201
04-25-2014, 01:28 PM
As a lvl 95 i would usually get between 350 - 450 for attacking people 80+ lvld higher than me and now i've only broke 300 once. Usually more like 230cp so they definitely changed something

NinjaHonu
04-25-2014, 01:54 PM
I just hit someone 7 levels higher just to see what cp i would get.... I got 100cp. LOL. HAHAHAHA. Such crap. They definitely tweaked the cp algorithm....

Dogs Pizza
04-25-2014, 02:00 PM
we have a level 200 with 956 wins so far. i just calculated his average at 232 cp/hit. that seems pretty close to the average for 200s in past wars.

Its possible they changed the cp to getting the best points by beating their strongest player instead of highest level. CJ had mentioned something about this awhile back. or maybe it is a combo of level and stats now.

NinjaHonu
04-25-2014, 02:06 PM
we have a level 200 with 956 wins so far. i just calculated his average at 232 cp/hit. that seems pretty close to the average for 200s in past wars.

Its possible they changed the cp to getting the best points by beating their strongest player instead of highest level. CJ had mentioned something about this awhile back. or maybe it is a combo of level and stats now.

Is he GG? If he is GG and people Mega him and lose it will skew his avg.

The red Baron
04-25-2014, 02:11 PM
I got 1 till 2 of 4 over 300 last war, i have now 17 offensive wins and one time 305 cp.

Dogs Pizza
04-25-2014, 02:54 PM
he is not gg, i am.

but even defensive wins will show on his total wins.

Perfuzzie
04-25-2014, 04:05 PM
only level 169 and my average is 270 this war ...way below what i was getting last wars ...

garen argon
04-25-2014, 05:49 PM
the new algorithm is affecting the lower level players too...i'm seeing cp's around 225-260 when attacking players.

Romel
04-25-2014, 08:35 PM
Has anyone hit above 400? Cap was 450+ bonus I think new cap is 400

kaylua
04-26-2014, 08:00 AM
Max CP's taken are around 350. I am a level 130. Attacking a level 200 I get between 200 and 350 CP. WTF

ChaosRules
04-26-2014, 08:30 AM
Looks like they have increased defensive points too...our GG is not around this weekend. With 19 defensive wins he has more points than another player of equivalent level with 43 wins

Shazam
04-26-2014, 09:04 AM
Max CP's taken are around 350. I am a level 130. Attacking a level 200 I get between 200 and 350 CP. WTF

Getting around 200-250 attacking level 200. I am level 123. Crazy.

KarenWill
04-26-2014, 09:22 AM
Max cp I got is ~200 from someone Whs 92 lvls higher

Silent follower
04-26-2014, 09:25 AM
My points are also down, but not as much. My record from this war is 375, when I hit a lvl200 opponent. Low is 202 on same opponent. This was from a sample of nine hits on him.

CJ54
04-26-2014, 09:28 AM
I'm asking the devs about this. I know we flattened the point ranges (so, a higher minimum and lower max) but that was active last CoK event.

Kingdommadness
04-26-2014, 09:55 AM
I never got more than 380!! Ridiculous! I am lvl 100, hitting lvl200 and get 180-200 cp.. Terrible. I usualy was able to get cp over 400, no prob.. This war already over 60k cp made none of which above 380, all higher lvls than me. Something is wrong there.. Oh and yeah - 20 mins ago we were matched up after waiting for over 30mins,

Vclone
04-26-2014, 01:26 PM
At least this is across the board and all of us are at an equal disadvantage. The real issue here is that we like inflation, not deflation.

The red Baron
04-26-2014, 01:47 PM
It would be great if there is a comunication about such a change, seems for me as lv200 i became better in comparison with low level players.

AvatarTBS
04-26-2014, 03:50 PM
This is baffling. I've blown through 350+ gems hitting amazing targets that are twice my level, and have consistently been given 190 points and below. These exact same hits would have given me 400+ CP consistently every war until now. I am literally being cheated out of tens of thousands of points.

Then just a few moments ago, I made a hit to take out a guild guardian, and was given 752 CP! SEVEN-HUNDRED-FIFTY-TWO. I appreciate getting back a couple hundred of the points I haven't received, but since when is a 750+ point hit possible? I'm fairly certain something's pretty broken with your algorithm.

Perfuzzie
04-26-2014, 04:07 PM
This is baffling. I've blown through 350+ gems hitting amazing targets that are twice my level, and have consistently been given 190 points and below. These exact same hits would have given me 400+ CP consistently every war until now. I am literally being cheated out of tens of thousands of points.

Then just a few moments ago, I made a hit to take out a guild guardian, and was given 752 CP! SEVEN-HUNDRED-FIFTY-TWO. I appreciate getting back a couple hundred of the points I haven't received, but since when is a 750+ point hit possible? I'm fairly certain something's pretty broken with your algorithm.

did you mega attack ?

Valid or
04-26-2014, 04:23 PM
I'm asking the devs about this. I know we flattened the point ranges (so, a higher minimum and lower max) but that was active last CoK event.
Also just noticed this...wasent the unit +2wd wall(from last war), a bonus for points? But on my profile it reads +2 to wall damage.

Cynical Me
04-26-2014, 05:45 PM
The CP in Kingdom Age is now very similar to LaW. Much flatter. Impossible to get 400. The "bonus" for doing a Mega Attack is present in LaW as well, so I would suspect it was intentional here.

Voxker
04-26-2014, 06:22 PM
I never got more than 380!! Ridiculous! I am lvl 100, hitting lvl200 and get 180-200 cp.. Terrible. I usualy was able to get cp over 400, no prob.. This war already over 60k cp made none of which above 380, all higher lvls than me. Something is wrong there.. Oh and yeah - 20 mins ago we were matched up after waiting for over 30mins,

dont forget that multiple members that hit the same person get less points.

Shadows
04-26-2014, 06:32 PM
dont forget that multiple members that hit the same person get less points.

I always thought this was rumor, Voxker... do you know if it's been verified by Gree anywhere? I was always curious about this, and my guild was discussing it during this war...

Lucas HQ
04-27-2014, 01:49 AM
What's the problem? Everyone get low CP...

Frostpocket
04-27-2014, 02:39 PM
I've spent far less money on gems this war. Am not spending for such poor points. Roughly half of normal and will need twice as many gems to reach same placement as last war. So, we will place lower and Leave the spenders to get on with it.

garen argon
04-27-2014, 05:01 PM
What's the problem? Everyone get low CP...

people are not used to; and don't like change...especially when it is not what we are accustomed to seeing...

leek
04-27-2014, 07:01 PM
Gree, you need to increase the CP points proportionately not decreasing it proportionately. In that way, everyone has that feel good factor and have the propensity to spend more even though they will not be better off in any other way. Its not rocket science, is it?

Sgt Maj
04-27-2014, 09:17 PM
I am glad it is not me that is getting lore points this war!

grantsmith1
04-28-2014, 03:21 AM
As an example for the mods I have a level 115 account that has been hitting lvl 200`s all war and I haven't managed one single 400cp hit yet!!!!! that's an 85 level difference and im getting a mix of points between 190 and low 300cp with a very rare 360-380cp thrown in. that's a HUGE difference from last war ...so can you please explain what is happening so we can know if this is how its going to be from now on or if this was just another (someone put the wrong figure/multiplier/+ in the wrong column) error. you may say this is a level playing field because everyone is in the same boat but you ask all the people who commited to doing a set minimum CP for their guild how they feel right now ?? because every single one of them has had to pay out more!!!....probably exactly as you planned :mad:

alonibb
04-28-2014, 04:23 AM
This war is soon ending and Im getting aprox 100-150cp less at avg compared to every other war. I havent reach 400cp even once for a hit. If this is the same for every player then there is maybe not such a big issue, but as usual the Gree style is to just change things and no communication.

For me my avatar has gone from awesome in wars with an avg of almost 400cp/ hit to an avg of 250 which is pretty bad. That also means my 2 mountains I usually spend each war has made me a free player. Thx Gree!

garen argon
04-28-2014, 11:02 AM
300cp per hit is the new 400cp per hit. Adjust adapt and move on.

Just4fun
04-28-2014, 12:33 PM
I'm level 152 and haven't gotten 400 points 1 time this war. My weakest target was level 198

plavine
04-28-2014, 12:33 PM
I feel much better after reading thiS.
It is still annoying that the cp varies so greatly , but it is refreshing to see that i am not the only level 200 who gets under 200 points when I hit another 200.

The red Baron
04-28-2014, 01:11 PM
After the end of the war and 655 wins my summary as lv200:
max cp 327 against other lv 200, last war 367.

Valid or
04-28-2014, 08:59 PM
Don't know if anyone else post this, but the changes they made to mega attack cp wins was a very good change.
Saw a few 900s, one 1100 cp wins..
Granted I am not sure how this helps out lvl 200, but lower levels did benefit from this.

goowokji
04-29-2014, 10:44 AM
In the past 1 mountain would score 40-50k CP now you would need an extra 500gems to score same amount. Do you hear that? Cha-Ching $$$ mo money mo money.

Metsrock9931
04-29-2014, 06:15 PM
In the past 1 mountain would score 40-50k CP now you would need an extra 500gems to score same amount. Do you hear that? Cha-Ching $$$ mo money mo money.

Not sure if the points differ depending on what level we all are, but only made a purchase of 650 gems this war and scored just over 60,000 CP. Saw many below 200 and highest was 365. Seems we are all on the same playing field which is fine since no one gained an advantage as long as it wasn't based on levels. Points for all were lower this past war. It is a mind trick as someone mentioned inflation and deflation, everyone is always fine with seeing higher points but never lower. Mind over matter.

Jerusalem
04-30-2014, 12:51 AM
dont forget that multiple members that hit the same person get less points.

Voxker, I believe that Gree clarified in another forum that multiple players hitting the same target does not affect the points you get. Of course, that may not apply to KA, and it may have since changed.

I'd still like to know, however, by what evidence you can infer such a thing.

grantsmith1
04-30-2014, 07:21 AM
Id like to receive any kind of clarification from the mods... are you guys reading this CJ?? snapopera?? perhaps if you explained a few things it would help...

1./ does multiple people hitting one target affect the CP each player receives???

2./Is this change to the CP awarded going to be permanent???

3./Is there a set period of time during war during which two guilds are prevented from rematching??

Im sure there are many many other questions people would like answered but if you could answer me those three it would be a good start...

Jerusalem
04-30-2014, 08:25 AM
Id like to receive any kind of clarification from the mods... are you guys reading this CJ?? snapopera?? perhaps if you explained a few things it would help...

1./ does multiple people hitting one target affect the CP each player receives???

2./Is this change to the CP awarded going to be permanent???

3./Is there a set period of time during war during which two guilds are prevented from rematching??



Thanks for raising these questions. Gree, please respond.

Rocco69
05-03-2014, 01:05 AM
worst per win ever for my secondary (down 100/hit average) and about the same average as before for my 200
my 200 is happy
the rest of me says hey gree check your math - shouldn't certain players (the best) score better on average?

jj88
05-03-2014, 09:49 AM
What ever changes are across all players so the playing field is still level.

grantsmith1
05-08-2014, 12:54 AM
CJ/Snapopera any chance you would answer the above questions before the next war starts???? would make a nice change if we were actually provided some helpful information!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Julius Wheezer
05-13-2014, 02:18 AM
I'm asking the devs about this. I know we flattened the point ranges (so, a higher minimum and lower max) but that was active last CoK event.

Hey CJ

Any response from the devs?

grantsmith1
05-14-2014, 01:58 AM
yes lets have a reply to these questions please CJ