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wupuck
09-16-2011, 10:43 AM
This makes no sense.

I have about 33 mob member at level 21.
I purchase 2 combat shotguns (Atk 6, Def 2) which would bring my total to 17.

My attack drops by 6 points and my defense drops by 2.

what the heck???

Gunn
09-16-2011, 04:52 PM
What probably happened is you've reached your limit of different types of equipment you can use. At level 21 you can have a max mob of 105 (that should be your focus really, you need to get you mob numbers way up.) which would allow you 105 guns armor melee and vehicles totalling 420 total pieces of equipment. There is another limitation most people aren't aware of. I believe the number is 48. You are limited to bringing 48 different types of equipment into battle. The game also automatically selects the best 48 pieces of equipment, so if you already had 48 different types of equipment and then bought the shotguns, the game would drop the lowest of your eqipment, lets say it was the hammer. So in order to bring the 2 shotguns you brought into battle, you can no longer bring any hammers. If you had 15 hammers you wouldn't be able to bring any of them in with you anymore. So even though the shotgun is a better item, you are now actually bringing less weapons into combat. That is how adding a weapon can actually lower your attack and defense scores. does that make sense?

Crime City Mark
09-16-2011, 05:02 PM
Gunn, that 48 item limit doesn't exist. Your stats shouldn't drop when you purchase an item, and that is being fixed in a patch coming out soon.

Gunn
09-16-2011, 05:34 PM
lol shows what I know... I used to run into issues where I didn't bring all the equipment I could into battle. then i noticed that in the screen showing what equipment used, it always showed the same amount for me and my opponent so I figured that we were both being limited by something otherwise what would the odds of us always bringing in the same weapons and armor be?

wupuck
09-16-2011, 05:42 PM
My understanding is that it would bring in 4 times the # of mob members u have. 1 melee, 1 gun, 1 armor & 1 vehicle. 4 * 33 mob members (cuz less then Max) technically should be 132. Minus any vehicle, cuz I haven't bought one for each mob and im at my usual 108.

Mark thank you for kind of answering my other question
I hope that patch does fix and clarify true attack/defense values. Any expected eta on the fix? Having been in sw qa before myself I understand expected v realistic delivery dates but an eta would be much appreciated.

wupuck
09-16-2011, 08:33 PM
Very interesting.

My attack is 309. Remember I lost 6 points w the shotgun purchases.

The Guy I was attacking had a 325 defense w/ a 1:2 losing ratio.

I lost 2 straight attacks to him.

I also tried to rob a level 4 gun shop w a Guy w 393 defense. Lost both of those as well.

Just 2 days ago I was destroying folks w a 350-370 defense and robbing successfully from folks w. 390 defense (was a level 4 warehouse)

madawgg
09-16-2011, 08:41 PM
uhhh...you only have 33 mobs at lvl 21?

wupuck
09-16-2011, 08:52 PM
Yep. Guy I attacked had 33 or 34. Can't afford to arm the whole mob

wizardpurdie
07-27-2013, 04:06 AM
is there a cut off on all weapons and how many is it

wizardpurdie
07-27-2013, 04:07 AM
does anyone know how to post a new thread.

wizardpurdie
07-27-2013, 04:08 AM
how many times i have to reply until it unlocks if thats true.

Legen...dary
07-27-2013, 02:31 PM
simple... you are using a A3/D1 gun as your base for your weakest mafia... buying 2x 6/2 increases your stats by A12/D4, but then you do a server update it drops back down. You can buy a 1/1 gun, and even though every mafia member is using a 6/2 gun your stats will jump up 1A/1D... but then the server update happens and it drops right back down because no mafia member is currently using that gun.

figure out what your base weapon is... if it is A3/D1 then buying a 6/2 gun will only increase your stats by 3/1... if both of your weakest mafia members are using your 3/1 guns and you buy 2x 6/2 gunsthen your stats will increase by 6/2 after the server update, but by 12/4 before the server update giving you a drop of 6/2.