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plavine
07-15-2014, 07:54 PM
Ok - my raw attack is 65+mil.
My single raid boss damage is 17.58mil
Please explain .

Lys
07-15-2014, 08:22 PM
My attack on my profile is ~420 million, whereas my Quick Attack is ~43 million.

What's going on here is that the Raid Boss still uses the system that the Epic Boss had been using until a few months back. The game is looking at the statistics of your army without any % boosts included in the values. So, you have an Infantry unit with 100k attack, and you have a 50% Infantry attack bonus, on the Epic Boss it gives you 150k damage (Base + Boost % * Base) but on the Raid Boss, it only gives you the face value of the unit.

It means your base attack before boosts is that 17.58 million value.

the_bob
07-15-2014, 09:14 PM
Raid Bosses have always used unboosted stats. This is not new.

Chief_K
07-16-2014, 10:56 AM
My attack on my profile is ~420 million, whereas my Quick Attack is ~43 million.

Holy stats boost. Very impressive!

annaclara
07-16-2014, 11:54 AM
this is a real achievment

plavine
07-16-2014, 12:33 PM
Thanks guys . My guild sees my -'attack as 65 mil , my boosted is 93 mil.
So if my unboosted attack is the 17 mil quick attack, Then what does the 65 mil number that my guild sees represent ??

Munseyspin
07-16-2014, 12:42 PM
It used to represent the value without boost buildings. Ie add 20% if you had all buildings at lvl10. It might still be that, with the new buildings included.

Valid or
07-16-2014, 04:20 PM
Thanks guys . My guild sees my -'attack as 65 mil , my boosted is 93 mil.
So if my unboosted attack is the 17 mil quick attack, Then what does the 65 mil number that my guild sees represent ??
Hmm why dose your guild see a differnt attack value for you. The last time I pulled up a guild member profile, there attack value was the same as what we recorded it when they posted their profile. Is the display broken again, and I missed it?
Also
Changing it to use our boosted stats is a bad idea, right now guilds are starting to make progress that they can see from one raid boss event to the next. Even if it's just one more boss they can drop. If the add in useing our boosted stats, they will also increess the bosses health dramatically to compensate for increase to our attack. Causing a landslide of unhappy people when they see billions added onto bosses health compared to what it is now. Aswel as a ton of unhappy guilds who most likely would not make it as far in the quest chains.
The event is working fine without issues.
if it's not broken, don't fix it.
(Pets not included in the statement feel free to help keep unwanted litters down and spay or neuter them)

plavine
07-17-2014, 05:22 AM
It used to represent the value without boost buildings. Ie add 20% if you had all buildings at lvl10. It might still be that, with the new buildings included.

All of my boost buildings are level 10 ( with the exception of the overgrown den which is level 9).
I have a lot of boosts ( most attack boosts are near 200%). I still can't understand how my quick attack is 1/6 th of my boosted attack

plavine
07-17-2014, 05:24 AM
Hmm why dose your guild see a differnt attack value for you. The last time I pulled up a guild member profile, there attack value was the same as what we recorded it when they posted their profile. Is the display broken again, and I missed it?
I have 2 accounts and my other account also sees my big account as 65 mil attack - you only see your rivals boosted attack , not your guild mates .

Toddahhhh
07-17-2014, 10:37 AM
Not to highjack this thread, but since I cannot start new topics, this one is the closest to being on point. Would it be possible to get who summoned the boss listed in the guild chat, like it is done for declaring war. We cannot be the only guild having issues with rogues summoning low level bosses for personal kills, instead of following guild quest and we have no way of knowing exactly who did it, speculation can get the wrong player demoted, it would be nice to have hard evidence of who did what. And honestly, I hate this event, if you don't have players that communicate regularly, they go rogue, would love to see this event changed to something else.

Krayt
07-17-2014, 12:50 PM
Raid Boss is one of the best event

Shadows
07-17-2014, 12:53 PM
Not to highjack this thread, but since I cannot start new topics, this one is the closest to being on point. Would it be possible to get who summoned the boss listed in the guild chat, like it is done for declaring war. We cannot be the only guild having issues with rogues summoning low level bosses for personal kills, instead of following guild quest and we have no way of knowing exactly who did it, speculation can get the wrong player demoted, it would be nice to have hard evidence of who did what. And honestly, I hate this event, if you don't have players that communicate regularly, they go rogue, would love to see this event changed to something else.

If they're summoning for personal kills, just put word out to guild that no one is to summon or attack any boss outside of guild quest; then merely look at history and detect who is attacking the bosses and can their asses! Simple ;-)

But Krayt is right-- Raid Bosses one of the best things about KA!

syKosis
07-17-2014, 05:55 PM
Just look at the results screen and see who did the damage. Since we're talking low level raid bosses, it would only take a handful of people hitting it. Just look for patterns as to who keeps doing it. But yes a notification in guild chat would be simpler...

Toddahhhh
07-18-2014, 07:19 AM
History doesn't show who summoned, only shows who hit first. We told the guild over and over not to do it, think now they summon and then wait until someone else hits, because history shows reliable guys that I know did not summon, they jumped in to help, summoner waits until several others hit first. Would be nice to know, for sure, who is at fault so we can make them gone.

GetItFixed
07-18-2014, 08:25 AM
Whats ur issue? Only officers can summon bosses. Just strip off officers status one by one and soon you will know who it is. Is is asked too much just to use ur brain a little bit? At least sometimes???

Krayt
07-18-2014, 10:21 AM
Whats ur issue? Only officers can summon bosses. Just strip off officers status one by one and soon you will know who it is. Is is asked too much just to use ur brain a little bit? At least sometimes???

What's a brain?

Toddahhhh
07-21-2014, 09:57 AM
Thanks for the smart*** no-answer- so what is to be done when the wrong members get stripped of officer and decide to leave, because they've done nothing wrong other than hit when some other idiot summoned and waited. I made a simple request to the devs, not to you, use your brain.

Valid or
07-21-2014, 10:18 AM
Thanks for the smart*** no-answer- so what is to be done when the wrong members get stripped of officer and decide to leave, because they've done nothing wrong other than hit when some other idiot summoned and waited. I made a simple request to the devs, not to you, use your brain.

If the officers are communicating this would be a no brainer, as you would all know why your being demoted. And it was just temp.
If it's a huge issue designate summoners for different times frames and run a schedule and only those designated people summon, the rest wait till event is over and get re-promoted.
With communication there should be little issues with the other officers.

You made a post on the forum in General, if you wanted just a response from gree then you should have a open ticket with which to communicate with them directly. Out here anyone can reply, most of us are really just trying to be helpful.

Krayt
07-21-2014, 11:00 AM
The question is, where are you doing your communication?
Talking with all your officers you can easily solve this problem with none being pissed off other than the one finally being found out.

We will laugh and make comments that don't seem helpful. That is the nature of the forum, you can find good answers to questions here though. However, all you really need is communication with your officers and together you can solve this problem

Toddahhhh
07-21-2014, 11:33 AM
The question is, where are you doing your communication?
Talking with all your officers you can easily solve this problem with none being pissed off other than the one finally being found out.

We will laugh and make comments that don't seem helpful. That is the nature of the forum, you can find good answers to questions here though. However, all you really need is communication with your officers and together you can solve this problem

I understand a good ribbing on the forums, but when told to "use my brain" from someone that obviously doesn't understand my problem, and also to whom I was not addressing, I get a bit irate. We use Groupme, which I initiated after much chagrin, lo and behold we moved from top 400 to top 300 instantly. I have been trying to get the guild up to speed on other items for some time, we have a great core of guys, but we have many rotten apples, if not for the great ones, I'd bail. So, the problem is, too drastic of an action, and we lose half the guild (not a loss to me) but I don't want the old school members to get irritated and leave too. Some of the old schoolers still will not use Groupme, so my only path is to weed out one by one the troublemakers. If I had it my way, I'd gamble and kick them all, but we do pretty well and I would hate for our guild to crash, it's just I know we could do better with tighter control, seems pretty simple to add this feature, but who am I to say.

Krayt
07-21-2014, 04:12 PM
Building a guild isn't easy, hence why I don't hold a Founder title.

I have worked closely with founders to help build guilds and it is getting more and more challenging as more and more people quit. As founder you need to surround yourself with officers you know you can work with and trust. Once you have your core it is easier to move forward. Your core needs to identify your bad apples and move to remove them while bringing in new blood.

Get on groupme and join chat rooms to help build your guild and connections

GetItFixed
07-21-2014, 04:21 PM
First Rule: If members deny to use chat apps for communication, don t promote them to officers. Then you don t need to worry some will rant or leave, while you temporary strip them of officer status to get the Raid Boss summoning straighten out.

Toddahhhh
07-22-2014, 11:30 PM
Thanks for the genuine replies, I guess it's just the hardship of going from an honor system "do as you please" guild to trying to get efficient as possible as making rules and expecting everyone to follow. It just becomes frustrating being the one constantly reprimanding, without knowing who is guilty. But to move forward, I guess we strip and rebuild our losses, we got a great core, and it's all part of the game. Just seems odd to be able to see who declared war, but not see who summons, I guess we should be thankful for that. (Translation: take that away and bodily harm may come to a guildmate ;). -kidding.