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    Steady Scribe RedLabit's Avatar
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    Run in with a zero casualty player

    I had a run in with a zero casualty player yesterday and it was a really bad experience.
    By the way, both my attk/def stats are higher than his.

    My initial contact started with him loosing an attack on me.
    After loosing that attack on me, he proceeded to raid my unit buildings, defense buildings and all the non-money buildings. He won and loose some of the raids. (I always collect my money in time, so he had no chance of stealing money.).

    Unfortunately, I lost a lot of very good units and valor units during his frenzy raids.

    My initial thought was why the heck would anyone profit from raiding my mine fields, rail guns etc.
    If I suffered such heavy losses while defending his raids, he would have similar or worse casualty rates. Or would it?

    So I decided to revenge...

    I unloaded my attacks and raids and won all the battles while loosing many good units along the way. Then I realized that he did not have a single casualty during my attacks! I was like WTF!!Q!¥%!$@%!@

    Next thing I know, this glitch player did another round of pointless raid on my base and again I lost heavily on valuable units while defending... Even though I could win in a revenge, I see no point in carrying with this as I'm in a loose-loose situation.

    I finally understood the frustrations many players had with these glitch players. And I believe the problem is wider than what Funzio believes it to be.

    Sigh... anyway, an advise to those who had not encounter such glitch players. If your def bldgs, unit bldgs, and non-money buildings were raided in a frenzy by a single player, he is most likely to have a zero casualty glitch. My advise, DO NOT attack back even if your stats are higher or you will regret it.
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    Thanks for the heads up RedLabit. I hope ya forwarded his info to the devs.
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    Prominent Poet Q Raider's Avatar
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    Had identical thing happen to me a few days ago. Unsuccessful attack and left a nice deposit, decided to return the favor and got an even better return. They vaulted the money quickly, I had a look at their stats and realized was likely a glitch player due to high Number of Valor units in play.

    Little while later found they had raided my defense buildings and then other buildings (not money buildings though) also the infirmary and had lost quite a few units.

    Had another look at their stats and sure enough, it appeared that in around thirty attacks they hadn't lost a unit and my unboosted stats matched theirs.

    Did a bit of a test and hit them four more times, won each attack/raid but lost units each time, checked them again, no loss whatsoever.

    Then realized that apart from event items with higher stats their entire defense is made up of Valor units.

    JohnnyR support claims there is no such thing as is glitch, are they really listening cause I have a few names they can look at, all running well above 80% Valor attack, defense and in total units brought to battle.

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    Steady Scribe RedLabit's Avatar
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    I've submitted a ticket to support with his info, but do not have high hopes as the developers obviously do not have a solution to this well known bug as of now.
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    Nice, Q. I wonder how they know with such certainty...

    I have to say, there might be a display delay with regards to rival units. I know there is lag in vaulting and in the sit rep.

    I suggest anyone who spots it to send tickets of "no casualty glitchers" attaching photos of units, and any text on their wall bragging about the fact. Don't send stuff willy nilly, lest they ignore the ones who send in evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyR View Post
    I suggest anyone who spots it to send tickets of "no casualty glitchers" attaching photos of units, and any text on their wall bragging about the fact. Don't send stuff willy nilly, lest they ignore the ones who send in evidence.
    ...would you like for me to send one in on you johnny??? ;p j/k
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    Prominent Poet JMC's Avatar
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    So they actually responded to you guys and said that there is no glitch? Well that's a load of bullsh!t. Top levels are ruined by players who should not have half the stats that they do. They attack and lose nothing, and even admit to it. I gave them about 20 names who had the glitch no doubt.

    These guys are holding like 3000+ valor units now and have all been well on their way through colonel PvP ranking. They can attack high level, high stat players, bring in tons of battle points and complete both valor missions at once with ease. They essentially are receiving free low stat gold units.

    I used to be ahead of them by a long shot. Now they've all caught up or passed me. By far, biggest problem in the game i'd say and they're not acknowledging it as one.


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    i report these guys all the time. reported one today as a matter of fact. i agree jmc. biggest problem in the game.

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    There is definitely some kind of glitch out there in regard to casualty rates. I would like to think that I have had the "glitch" because I think my casualty rates have been ridiculously high (though I have to admit they have been more tolerable lately. I'm still losing the same 2-3 units per attack, but it is mostly cheap units instead of the very expensive or valor units now).

    I've seen the glitch first hand though. I ran into someone else who had the game a few weeks back and watched him attack about 40 times and lose 1 unit. He was actually surprised when he lost the unit because he said it happened so rarely. He had Snipers, Commandos, and other High casualty rate units, but it didn't matter. If I attack 40 times, I'm going to lose about 80 units of mixed "low" and "medium" casualty rates.

    I didn't catch his ID at the time. I guess he is usually pretty secretive about the whole thing because he knows that most people are frustrated as heck losing units left and right and he's actually having fun.

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    Prominent Poet JMC's Avatar
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    They may be blowing you guys off because some of your cases are not obvious glitch cases and sometimes seem to be possibly legitimate players (not specifically talking about this thread, but i've seen a lot of speculation on other threads when people bring up glitchers). A few attacks on an opponent does not guarantee casualties. Someone could attack me 20 times and since i am the defender i will only lose a few units.

    Unless you guys can confirm that they are glitchers, don't report them all, or funzio won't take your reports seriously. Right now i think, they just think you guys are speculating or something. Here in the upper levels, the glitch is MUCH more obvious. All these guys have 2000+ valor units with not that many fights won, while attacking and losing battles. They're also making their way through colonel rank already as they can attack people that'll give them 200+ BP per hit. Then i go and talk to them to confirm that their loss is zero. That is when i give the name of the player to support as a glitcher.

    Right now i get attacked maybe 10 times daily. I win them all, but i assume these players are all glitchers that dont even bother looking at stats any more. Some even try a few times, or come back later in the day, or the next day. I don't just go ahead and report them though because i haven't investigated them thoroughly enough.

    Just saying, don't flood funzio with people that are possibly glitching. Only people that are glitching for sure and they won't take the issue as lightly. I've sent them another ticket about the issue and asked that maybe they reboot the servers or something that may fix the problem even if they cannot find it to fix themselves.


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    ...has anyone every seen a casualty glitcher???

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    Prominent Poet JMC's Avatar
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    Seen a few dozen.

    Talked to around a dozen.

    Maverick from this forum has it. Andymac also seems to have it. Zynsmily if you remember him also had it and was the first to talk about it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stricker View Post
    ...has anyone every seen a casualty glitcher???

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    Steady Scribe RedLabit's Avatar
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    Not sure why Funzio is taking so long to tackle this well known, well reported glitch.

    I can take it if a goldfish or a legit player is raiding me to shreds as he is playing the game within the game rules.
    But it is those who could play outside the rules that irks me the most.

    Who would enjoy a game with such an unfair playing ground?

    I guess my solution for myself at the moment is to camp out and delay as much as possible from going into the whale zone where there are so many glitch players.
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    So, How would we know if we have low casualty rates. I've intentionally kept my allies very low due to my strength in my ally bracket and large amount of unvaulted cash. I attack people in my bracket, but most have 1/2 my att and def. I can fight 40 plus fights and normally only lose maybe 1 valor unit carrying 50 into battle. Before I moved to 24 allies, I would lose even less. I'm currently level 65. Does this qualify as a glitch or does the amount of allies and strength of the opponent influence the losses? I'm only getting 25-40 BP's per attack.

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