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    The "Big Four"

    I understand that the big 4 cover all of the the elements, but is there anyway other reason that these 4 became so necessary to gameplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayglez View Post
    I understand that the big 4 cover all of the the elements, but is there anyway other reason that these 4 became so necessary to gameplay.
    Hi Bayglez,
    The reason for having the Big 4 is the very good stats. Especially the + version is very strong. Reson for this is the def/att increase per level.

    Check out the spreadsheet:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...der=true&gid=7

    So, fuse the Big 4, level them to lvl 15, not any further. Then craft the plus version. You're not able to fuse the + version. Then invest in the plus version. This will take some time, but in the end the best thing to do in the level 20 - 60 range.

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    I'm actually heading into the 70's, it's just something I am trying to understand, I.e why isn't Chimera Corps+ as important. But thanks for the help, as I'm getting higher I'm just wondering is it worth creating multiple sets of the big four?
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    Yep, level 50 armors with about level 70 armor max. stats for a fraction of the leveling price because they have such high per level stat scaling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayglez View Post
    I'm actually heading into the 70's, it's just something I am trying to understand, I.e why isn't Chimera Corps+ as important. But thanks for the help, as I'm getting higher I'm just wondering is it worth creating multiple sets of the big four?
    The reason the big 4 was deemed the big 4, was because of their exponential stat growth, and at the same time because of the fact they're so easily obtainable, and it's so easy to max them. Chimera isn't part of the big 4 because it's stats are worse off compared to the rest of the big 4, with an underwhelming 511 attack. I don't think creating multiple big 4s are a very good idea, though it can be beneficial before you start getting your 70+ armors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deathexe View Post
    The reason the big 4 was deemed the big 4, was because of their exponential stat growth, and at the same time because of the fact they're so easily obtainable, and it's so easy to max them. Chimera isn't part of the big 4 because it's stats are worse off compared to the rest of the big 4, with an underwhelming 511 attack. I don't think creating multiple big 4s are a very good idea, though it can be beneficial before you start getting your 70+ armors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayglez View Post
    I'm actually heading into the 70's, it's just something I am trying to understand, I.e why isn't Chimera Corps+ as important. But thanks for the help, as I'm getting higher I'm just wondering is it worth creating multiple sets of the big four?
    Check out this table (soory for the layout...;

    Armor Base A Base D A/l D/l
    Chimera Corps Uniform + 168 198 7 11
    Atlantean Avenger Armor + 207 189 11 12
    Crius Armor + 206 206 10 12
    Hydra Hunter's Mail + 189 207 12 12
    Living Flame Armor + 189 198 12 11

    You will see that Chimera Armor is not very effective by stats. I'd rather invest in multiple Big four armors when I've maxed the first set..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freuzel77 View Post
    Check out this table (soory for the layout...;

    Armor Base A Base D A/l D/l
    Chimera Corps Uniform + 168 198 7 11
    Atlantean Avenger Armor + 207 189 11 12
    Crius Armor + 206 206 10 12
    Hydra Hunter's Mail + 189 207 12 12
    Living Flame Armor + 189 198 12 11

    You will see that Chimera Armor is not very effective by stats. I'd rather invest in multiple Big four armors when I've maxed the first set..
    I personally would never advise to invest in multiple big 4 armour sets. You'll out grow them and become a wasted investment.

    One set is more than enough to get you through imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayglez View Post
    I'm actually heading into the 70's, it's just something I am trying to understand, I.e why isn't Chimera Corps+ as important. But thanks for the help, as I'm getting higher I'm just wondering is it worth creating multiple sets of the big four?
    I personally feels that it depends on the way u play & the resources that u could or possibly can have. Imagine if tmr I will know that the next boss elements is water/spirit, I will rather rush out 3 AA+ rather then 1 half baked roc feathers or any epic boss armor.

    1 level 50 armor will take u @ most 1.5 days to max if u play regularly & cost less then 1 million. If u compare that to let's say roc feather, u will probably take 3-4 days crafting & then maxing to 70 if u have sufficient gold (3-5 mil), fusion stones & materials.

    However if u r a regular gem spender then the equation changes totally again.

    So it really depends on alot of factors & personal preference.


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    What if u never got the big four or had them but used them for fusion earlier in the game... I'm now maxing or have maxed all 70+ armor the only big four I still have is a HH+ Lvl 38 should I go back and get the big four maxed out again for boss fights or concentrate only on my new 70+ now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Ash View Post
    What if u never got the big four or had them but used them for fusion earlier in the game... I'm now maxing or have maxed all 70+ armor the only big four I still have is a HH+ Lvl 38 should I go back and get the big four maxed out again for boss fights or concentrate only on my new 70+ now?
    Hi Lord Ash, I think U provided too little information. But @ your level & the fact u got level 70 armor & plus version means u have sufficient good armors. If that's the case then u dont really need the big 4.

    However if u r really resource tight then U can consider using any of the big four might be the next alternative for epic boss. I only have a couple of max level 70+ armor, hence my big 4 is still in use up till tdy. Played abt 3 mths now?

    For arena, big 4 armor is only useful unless u know your opponents lineup. 250 & below, big 4 won't be helpful.
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    Also, you'll need a very large collection of level 70 armor before you stop needing to use one of the Big Four as part of your lineup when fighting epic bosses. I've been playing nearly six months and still don't have three level 70 armors suitable for every possible boss. (And I saw a number of level 100+ players on my friends list using AA+ on their main knight this week!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BethMo View Post
    Also, you'll need a very large collection of level 70 armor before you stop needing to use one of the Big Four as part of your lineup when fighting epic bosses. I've been playing nearly six months and still don't have three level 70 armors suitable for every possible boss. (And I saw a number of level 100+ players on my friends list using AA+ on their main knight this week!)
    My thinking on the events BK+ is that for awhile, even with mudflation, it will make epic boss arming easier - BK+ no matter what on Cmdr, best aligned epic armor on first knight, big4 on second (speaking practically, not ideally)
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    Are there any other alternatives to the big four that aren't too bad? I've so far taken the advice i've read and gotten myself the big four but they're still reasonably low level (except for AA+ to fight Eurus). I don't want to invest too heavily in any of the others yet as I thought I'll wait to see what elements the next epic boss is. I was just wondering what kind of fusions I could be doing to get some alternative armours, I've built up tonnes of fusion stones and i'm not really sure what to combine. My cash flow isn't great, I'm only level 51 still and I've levelled up pretty fast so I haven't got much gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matti1992 View Post
    Are there any other alternatives to the big four that aren't too bad? I've so far taken the advice i've read and gotten myself the big four but they're still reasonably low level (except for AA+ to fight Eurus). I don't want to invest too heavily in any of the others yet as I thought I'll wait to see what elements the next epic boss is. I was just wondering what kind of fusions I could be doing to get some alternative armours, I've built up tonnes of fusion stones and i'm not really sure what to combine. My cash flow isn't great, I'm only level 51 still and I've levelled up pretty fast so I haven't got much gold.
    Don't fall in the fusion trap, no good will come of it. Even if you got one of the better results, you'll go broke trying to level it up.

    Save those stones to generate 50EP enhancement fodder for working on ****+ later. It takes millions of gold to max those pieces, so use your gold to develop your castle and cashflow, and live off of the Big 4 in the meantime. They have that name for a reason.

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