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    Supreme Scholar Dipstik's Avatar
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    Kompu Gacha?

    So about this new "scratcher" event... collect all the scratcher prizes during the month of December and win a super-fabulous prize! The lawyer side of me is curious... isn't that pretty much the definition of Kompu Gacha, which was supposedly made illegal in Japan. Has something changed or is this event only available in other countries? Am I missing something here?
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    The similar event for the crate items too (perhaps more so as you have to pay to play that one).

    Maybe the game isn't available in Japan; or not in the same form we know it. Can't say I've ever encountered a Japanese player.
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    I've consulted with my pretend lawyer side also and this is Kompu Gacha. If you live in Japan you could file a suit. Otherwise this doesn't affect you and Gree isn't going to comment on this, so we'll go ahead and put a lid on this thread. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crime cow View Post
    I've consulted with my pretend lawyer side also and this is Kompu Gacha. If you live in Japan you could file a suit. Otherwise this doesn't affect you and Gree isn't going to comment on this, so we'll go ahead and put a lid on this thread. Thanks!
    Quoted before you realize how stupid this looks and decide to edit it.
    Quote Originally Posted by murf View Post
    Dippy, may be a little harsh in this thread, but he's right...
    Still mad at Bostick.

    I'll be back when the moderation is reasonable. Enjoy the forum you created, Gree.

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    So Japan bans Kompu Gacha, and GREE releases two new goal chains that are exactly this? Nice.

    I found an article that explains what Kompu Gacha is and why it was banned. Funny GREE's name was mentioned there multiple times.

    http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/Betab...Was_Banned.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipstik View Post
    Quoted before you realize how stupid this looks and decide to edit it.
    Do you live in Colorado, Oregon, Washington or Alaska? That would explain a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan1000 View Post
    So Japan bans Kompu Gacha, and GREE releases two new goal chains that are exactly this? Nice.

    I found an article that explains what Kompu Gacha is and why it was banned. Funny GREE's name was mentioned there multiple times.

    http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/Betab...Was_Banned.php
    There are some technical ways that social gaming companies can and are using to get around the ban, but I don't see how this applies here. One of the key ways is that the customer should be able to calculate the amount of money necessary to complete the task ahead of time. Perhaps there is more information out there somewhere that does make this information available to those that are interested, but I didn't see enough in my quick scan of the goals or the store that would make these calculations possible. None of the other loopholes appears to apply either, but I've only been pretending to be a lawyer for a couple of hours, so I could have missed something...
    Last edited by crime cow; 12-02-2015 at 10:37 AM. Reason: Editing is fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crime cow View Post
    There are some technical ways that social gaming companies can and are using to get around the ban, but I don't see how this applies here. One of the key ways is that the customer should be able to calculate the amount of money necessary to complete the task ahead of time. Perhaps there is more information out there somewhere that does make this information available to those that are interested, but I didn't see enough in my quick scan of the goals or the store that would make these calculations possible. None of the other loopholes appears to apply either, but I've only been pretending to be a lawyer for a couple of hours, so I could have missed something...
    Quote Originally Posted by crime cow View Post
    I've consulted with my pretend lawyer side also and this is Kompu Gacha. If you live in Japan you could file a suit. Otherwise this doesn't affect you and Gree isn't going to comment on this, so we'll go ahead and put a lid on this thread. Thanks!
    Mandatory extras.
    Quote Originally Posted by murf View Post
    Dippy, may be a little harsh in this thread, but he's right...
    Still mad at Bostick.

    I'll be back when the moderation is reasonable. Enjoy the forum you created, Gree.

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    Kompu gacha has been gree's business model the whole time. You knew this, right?
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    It's not a game anymore with all the new ways to waste gold (read money), it's an online casino now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idiosyncrasy View Post
    Kompu gacha has been gree's business model the whole time. You knew this, right?
    I never paid much attention. I remember thinking that the "collect 8" box event prizes should have been a problem, but I never looked into it much. I just noticed the scratcher "event" and thought "wtf?"

    I'm genuinely curious if these events are a problem legally in Japan. I don't have any personal issue with them... if people want to blow their money, let them.
    Quote Originally Posted by murf View Post
    Dippy, may be a little harsh in this thread, but he's right...
    Still mad at Bostick.

    I'll be back when the moderation is reasonable. Enjoy the forum you created, Gree.

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    I don't really have anything else to add, I just want to post again to see if it will get added to the copy and paste post above. Its nice being so well thought of that my posts are being 'shared.'

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    I stink at math, so my cipherin' might be off, but at $2.60 a scratcher (which I was getting tempted to start paying to get that "legal power"), I for one am glad Dippy still uses his legal powers for good, at least occasionally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan1000 View Post
    So Japan bans Kompu Gacha, and GREE releases two new goal chains that are exactly this? Nice.

    I found an article that explains what Kompu Gacha is and why it was banned. Funny GREE's name was mentioned there multiple times.

    http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/Betab...Was_Banned.php

    just to expound a little further on your point, Evan.

    http://www.serkantoto.com/2012/11/01...age-box-gacha/
    Kompu gacha was a perversion of this concept, as it required users to win several (specified) items first in order to win a big prize (usually an item that was impossible to obtain otherwise) at the end. In other words, gacha players were required to have several “mini wins” in order to complete a set of items before getting the “jackpot”.
    as well as to clarify a little further for Crime Cow

    its safe to assume the scheme is being applied.
    (as a free player) I dont usually get any of the last 3 items needed to finish the box event.
    and No, I am not entitled to complete the set for that grand prize because I play for free
    Last edited by ghetto69143; 12-02-2015 at 03:51 PM. Reason: my own reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghetto69143 View Post

    .... to clarify a little further for Crime Cow

    its safe to assume the scheme is being applied.
    (as a free player) I dont usually get any of the last 3 items needed to finish the box event.
    and No, I am not entitled to complete the set for that grand prize because I play for free
    Yes, Honorable Ghetto Man, but that more Gacha (gotcha?) then Konpu Gacha. Next big plize, Fugu. Hahahaha.
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